How long does it take to become an Opera Singer?|
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- So many people wonder how many years I have put into this career of mine and I have decided to document it in what is now becoming my best form of communication, A VIDEO!
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So glad I acctually have time, I was scared of being to old to start
You have all the time! just get started!
Yes you do! My grandpa is 53 and started at 46
I’m a vocal music ed major and I got into music very late. I’ve been singing since I was 13 but I didn’t get into classical singing until my senior year and somehow I passed my audition after taking private lessons for about six months for my audition. I haven’t even finished my first semester and my voice has a lot of developing to do. But I guess I have potential if I got in. I’m being trained by some very talented people though! It’s a lot of work but I know it will pay off.
sounds similar to me. started taking voice lessons in september and was able to get prepared for oberlin audition by february, definitely never too late to start for anyone. how are you now?
This is a great video! Thanks for putting this information out there, because many really don't understand the kind of work it takes to even begin to have a career as an opera singer! I mean first you acquire a technique, and that alone takes around 4-5 years and then you have to sing for a while to let your technique really sit on your voice, that's another 3 years give or take! And that's just the singing lessons, there's diction, languages, interpretation, music theory and much more! In fact, it was probably a little easier to start a career back in the day, even so, Pavarotti started at 26, Del Monaco at 25, Filippeschi at the ripe old age of 30, Franco Corelli at 30 and likewise. Whereas the Operalia winner this year, Emily D'Angelo is a year older than I am at 23! And this is definitely going to kickstart her career!
It also really depends of your voice type. Light voices are usually easier to train and easy to diagnose what the voice needs.
So it’s very very hard not to but we really can’t compare.
I am glad to put the information out there cause it’s very easy to feel like your too old very early.
Pavarotti started at 26!? I'm 26! There's hope!
@@nickmala8637 He debuted at 26 ;)
Thank you. I don't want to do my job. I want to become an opera singer because I love opera since I'm 13, in my first try i was able to sing so I think I have a potential But never had lessons because I'm poor. But you say it's not too late to start so I'm happy very happy and than you again for this video it's helpful.
I've been studying operatic voice for 20 years and I am still learning new things hehe
I love how honest you’re thank you
I try to be! 😊
I'm 17 I have was always been told that I have a grate voice. After this video I started thinking about starting voice lessons (I really love classical music) in order to be an opera singer but I think that is too late for something like that. what is your opinion?
It’s never to late to try in my opinion! And also 17 (!!!!) I know so many people who started in their 20’s and have better careers and voices then people who have been singing from a super young age!!!
GO FOR IT!!!! ❤️❤️
Some teachers actually prefer if you start after your voice changes. No bad habits and technique that needs fixing, and they can just focus on the basics.
Wow, new information learned!!! very interesting... hope you have a really good and exciting year :)
Thanks !
Ok so I'm 29. I have a voice that got me fairly far back in the day. I just signed up for vocal lessons at my local conservatory. Dreaming of performing opera somewhere somehow.
hum, ok... LET’S START!
Never put a limit on what skills people can acquire regardless of their age.
She just called me a fetus
I guess I did! No offence...
I'm a self professed zygote in this case.
Yeah music school is no joke😅 I started a month ago and up until 6 months ago I didn’t even know I would be a music major I’m not as well prepared as my peers but I’m catching on with the help of UA-cam videos on theory! Thank you for this video, I’m not going into opera but its interesting to me!
Good luck with your studies!! I feel like most people have the 'catch-up' feeling, I hope it goes away soon and you get to enjoy it!!! ❤️❤️❤️
Avi Green Thank you!🥰
This was so helpful! I’m almost 17 and want to pursue music. I’ve already done a lot of music theory/solfege/sight reading stuff but I want to go into performance or music ed. My natural singing voice has quite a bit of vibrato so I’m wondering if you would suggest going into opera. I’m hoping to do lessons this summer and next year with a former opera singer so hopefully that will prepare me! :)
thank you so much Avi! you are awesome and so inpsiring! Im 21 and I decided to take time off before going to get my masters. it makes me happy to hear that that is a valid option :)
Totally VALID!!! go when you are ready!
I'm 14 years old
Thank you,cause i want to become an opera when i was 10 years old
I started opera at 9😅.. classically trained at 13-17... I'll be 18 this year.
And i really want to go study music in Germany 🫰
I was on my last year of my vocal degree when I completely mentally collapsed and the passed 7 years I’ve been trying to work with a psychiatrist to find out something that works for me but so far no luck. I hate that I feel I’m wasting away important years of my life to eventually have an opera career :/
Hi Avi, I hope you're settling in OK. I feel I must make a confession, I'm really, seriously really into Baroque music and oratorios. Being English, I listened to lots of Handel
from an early age. Then I discovered Bach and, much later, Monteverdi. Who are your favourite singers and what type of voice are you? Are you a Danni de Niese fan or,
perhaps, Julia Lezhneva? I'm partial to a rich contralto like Hilary Summers or a French lady called (I think) Delphine Galou. Let me know your thoughts...…..
the ancient Englishman.
I haven’t really heard much from Danna de Niese to say. But I do love Julia Lezhneva , heard her recently and was amazing!
I am a mezzo not really a Handel fan but I am learning to love it. It’s hard for me to say who my favorite singers are cause it really depends on the role I could make a whole series of videos on the topic .
But my favorite composers are the later ones , ranging from the Wagner to Puccini to Britten to ravel to Debussy or Tchaikovsky. It’s a long list.
I would love to hear more information about how to make money as an opera singer!
When do you tend to get paid roles? What other income options are there within the singing world while you’re still being trained? Would love to hear from you!
Just posted a video about some of these... I plan on making more content that has to do with make money and money stuff so in the future!
I am 22 and wondering if I am too old or young to really learn opera singing. I sang in high school but not so much in community college but have always been praised for my voice. I originally wanted to go to school to be an opera singer but I couldn't and still can't read music, so I went into something else. I still have my own mini library of opera songbooks, music books and am involved with my city's opera house. Though I have a soulful passion for opera, I always get very nervous when I have to sing. Is it really worth taking 10+ years at my age to learn operatic singing when it may all be for naught?
first off 22 is not old for opera! I first went to school when I was 23!
I think you should as yourself if it's worth me taking time off but what would I be missing if I didn't try. Know I know that's a lot to ask someone and there are many variables as to whether or not it's possible. But I would start by taking one-to-one lesson or join a choir (if covid didn't exist) and seeing how you go from there.
Also many voices take time to develop and like I said in the video everyone is different and it's up to you!
What’s the difference between being a classically trained vocalist vs. being an operatic vocalist?
There is no difference between a classically trained vocalist and an operatic vocalist. We all study the same vocal technique and repertoire, then we usually find a specialty or what fits the color, size, range, and style of our voices.
Being a classically trained singer means you learn how to sing in the style with was taught for a venue with no microphones basically. Does that make sense??
Yes thank you so much!
I started with 10 but I already had a mezzosoprano and mature voice (I'm almost 20 now and it hasn't changed a lot). But the lessons got too expensive so I had to search for another career😪
Hi.. Umm can I study opera without graduating from high school?
I think yes ! ;)
Many thanks for the video. It really put some things into perspective for me and I really appreciate your help. But I have a question, if I may. I've recently turned 30 and I have a passion for singing arias. I've been taking classical singing lessons for 2 years on/off (have been practicing regularly since early 2020) but I'm having difficulties finding my own voice. My voice teacher is aware of it and she always advises me to be patient and just keep on practicing. I also tend to talk deep for a tenor(I guess I'm a dramatic tenor) and my vocal range starts from G below mid C and can go up to D6 while doing lip trills. My question is, do you think even after 30, I might have a chance to develop my voice good enough to sing arias before I get too old for this? From time to time, I feel like maybe I should quit although everyone who have listened to me loved the color of my voice and my considerably fast development. I really need a third eye on this and anything you'd tell me is much appreciated. Thank you for your time in advance.
Hi! So here's the thing everyone I individual and I have met several singers in the last year who only go their career going in their 30 so it is possible. as for finding your voice I wouldn't know exactly cause I haven't heard you sing and I'm not a voice teacher. what I can say is maybe get more then one persons opinion on your voice and what they think cause sometime a teacher can be great for someone else and really push them forward but not have the right tools for you and what you need. I might shop around for teachers a bit and hear what they say and what advice they might give you! :) hope that helps!
@@VivsGreen Thank you very much for taking the time to respond! It's encouraging to learn from you that my age isn't a big deal, and so I will keep going and just enjoy the process in the meantime :) I hope this helps other singers who started out later in life, or are just starting! I've recently watched an interview with Dmitri Hvorostovsky (he was a baritone, for those who have never heard of him) as the guest, and he talks about how the human voice goes through several "puberty" steps throughout life. It's true that our voices mature in time, and maybe this is also what's happening to me at this particular stage of my life. I feel like it's becoming richer, and not as light as it used to be in my early 20s, but I love it! I will also take your advice and let more people listen to me, although I'm thinking of keeping my current teacher. I really trust her knowledge and skills, as she is also a very good mezzo soprano with amazing technique! Thank you again, for your time and your genuine feedback :)
Thanks for this video, but I have a question. I’m a senior in high school and have been heavily involved in music (mostly choir and musical theatre) my whole life. I’ve been taking voice lessons since my sophomore year and really trust my voice teacher. I’m applying to music schools and want to major in vocal performance and intend to try to get into the opera or musical theatre world, but my friend who is also heavily involved in music told me that because my voice hasn’t been trained so far for opera that it’s too late to switch. I was under the impression that a vocal performance degree is what prepares you for opera. Is that the case? Sorry for the long winded question 😅
Hi! No problem, I would love to help. I did make a video with tips for young singers that might help. And am planning on making another specifically regarding applying for schools.
It’s a difficult question to answer through a message and it takes a lot of thought. (One of the reasons I haven’t answered right away) But you should know that going to school you won’t be singing full on opera for a while and I would recommend being as confident as possible when you start. On the other hand doing it is when you gain confidence, and a good school should give you the right tools.
I would definitely discuss with your teacher and not your friends what’s best. Because even when your friends have the best intention, they aren’t experienced in the field and they don’t know where your voice is at the moment. If you don’t trust your teacher , talk to your choir director . (Both would be even better).
I hope this helps even just a bit. And feel free to ask me more. Just so you know I started my singing degree when I was 23, being a mezzo or having a large voice is very difficult because your voice doesn’t present itself until later and you have to just keep pushing yourself.
Wow!! That was a long comment! I really hope I helped .
Avi Green thank you so much! I’ll definitely keep watching your videos for more information and I’ll take your advice. 😁
And then there was Astrid Varnay, whose Met debut at 23(!) was also her overall debut. As SIEGLINDE. Like, that sounds insane today XD
Although Matti Salminen also did his first Filippo at like 24. Somehow, he survived that.
True there are always the exceptions. But they are insane! to do Sieglinde at 23!! is mind boggling to me!
Elena Suliotis sang "LA GIOCONDA" when she was also 23@@VivsGreen
So here's the thing. I really love opera and everything about it and I dream of becoming a singer myself. But the problem is that I'm 18 and have no musical education. I've been playing guitar for about 4 years and I've been singing all my life and I've learned many arias and have even conquered the infamous high C but I don't even know how to read or write notes, let alone sing by sight reading. My question is - do I really have any chance of reaching my dream of becoming an opera singer or am I too late?
Great video thank you!!!!!
But probably make another video about that "independent route studying on your own" what does that mean??? What is it about kr bring someo e to your channel thats did it that way that cab share with us about that...thank u
Former child singer though high school and those performing arts background mambo jambo I have. I guess I’m too old to start opera singing.
depends on you, your voice and where you aspire to go.
i started at 4
I'm 27 getting ready to turn 28 in this month.
Happy Birthday!!!!
I'm a freshman rn at a Conservatory within a Liberal Arts School and I was planning to drop out and just continue private lessons. I'm taking lessons rn with a private teacher and my University teacher. My private teacher Is suggesting that I leave but I was wondering if I could get your opinion :)
I was trying to find some operas to watch or listen to because I'm bored but sing it? Sure why not
There are literally 100! Where do you want to start?
@@VivsGreen I don't even know, I just need something to watch. Do you have any favourites?
I have so many recommendations. Werther is great and so is Tosca (my top two) I've made so many video with recommendation... here is my most viewed video... ua-cam.com/video/KgKX1QMMNj4/v-deo.html
But i thought starting from a young age helps to get more attuned to your voice and increase range?
Hi, I am currently studying violin at my conservatory and recently discovered that I actually have a decent voice (my vocal teacher said that all necessary requirements are there). I am now 19 years old - do you think that there’s a chance to sing professionally someday?
100% !!! It's not violin we start later and usually end sooner. have fun discovering where your voice can take you, you are most definitely not too old!
Is it still an option to go to Europe? At one time at least, most countries there subsidies the arts and being a "house baritone" is a regular salaried government job like working for the Post office or DMV.
Of course going to Europe is still an option. and yes it is considered a real job 9-5 type job in Germany. Germany is still probably one of the best place to go find work.
I'm not looking to get a proper education in opera, so it possible to just learn on the side?
So is just majoring in vocal performance a good decision or should I I also have a backup ?
you gain so much from doing a vocal degree. in addition, I wouldn't do it simultaneously cause a music degree can be very time consuming. but it really depends on the person. some people do a degree in something and then come to music later others do it the other way around. it really depends on what's best for you!
I'm 15, and I'm very interested interested in learning how I can start molding my voice and ears. I was wondering if you have any tips for me since I can not afford the pre classes. I can't just decide to go to music school unprepared.
I made a video more recently about this.
ua-cam.com/video/zkVuofeWFVQ/v-deo.html .
And then I made another video with a Q&A about studying music that might be helpful!
ua-cam.com/video/c199SlbWfRg/v-deo.html
@@VivsGreen thank you!!
Which is the best age to start voice lessons because I have read an article that conciders age 12. Do you think there is a cut off age to start voice lessons to become a professional?
100% no and I would defintly recommend starting singing lessons after your voice break and learn music through other instruments like piano or cello or flute which ever doesn't matter.
But no everyone is different and everyone develops at different times and has different voices that require different things. I would always suggest that if you have the bug find a teach are start singing!
bruh I started at 9 at my conservatory for this children's singing and now you telling me I could start at 16? I'm 13 years old now btw
I started at a cathedral choir at the same time, I don’t think she means singing in general I think she means like starting light opera repertoire
Basically too late for meee but I knew it was a foolish tought
I don't agree with that but I think it's always nice to take some singing lessons if you can afford it and see where it takes you :)
@@VivsGreen Thank you I don't have any talent but I appreaciate your kindness :D
is 24 to old??
More than 69 seconds
To be honest, I'd studied classical singing at a conservatory, until I started feeling like I barely made any progress and that I pretty much mastered all the (classical) techniques I've been taught. I left the conservatory after merely 1 year, and now I've been studying contemporary singing and harsh vocals for nearly 5 / 6 months (I've been taking voice lessons since I was 16). So after 1.5 years of voice lessons, and ear training, I feel like graduating and then attaining a master's degree is completely pointless.
I guess it's because the Opera world is full of s****. They also teach some useless techniques, and call it "Bel Canto". "Bel Canto", me arse! "canto cattivo", I say. Deepening your voice helps with absolutely nothing. It can make your voice sound terrible. Hell, some Opera singers I know concurred with me when I brought that up. Our natural tone and our bright resonance is what makes our voices sound beautiful. And our ability to project over an orchestra makes us classical singers. Why do we need programs like this while we can just prove ourselves by singing, demonstrating our actual abilities...
Our skill and passion is literally the only thing that you need to be as good as other singers who are entitled to be Opera singers. Open mindedness, imagination, hard work, questioning your teachers and the so called "fancied-wise" is the key to become even better than your teachers. When I started ignoring some of my teachers' instructions and found out what works for me and what doesn't, my voice improved.
So my question is... Do we really need all those titles? Can't we simply prove ourselves by singing?
hum, ok... LET’S START!