Kobe Bryant's LEGENDARY Performance In Game 4 Of The 2000 Finals vs Pacers 🐐
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The fact that Kobe was playing with a bad foot still took over the game while killing Miller Rose and Mark Jackson
That calm down gesture he made to his teammates at the end is legendary
“How good is this kid?!”
Them boys couldn’t handle Frobe😤
Nobody could 😢
This is the game that Kobe became HIM.
Game 7 vs Portland before this but Kobe was always him
@@StressedOutJimmy always him where???
I see what u saying but I’ll say “this the game that showed Kobe can lead without shaq in the long run”💯
@@DM.2000 Shaq who had 36pts 21 rbs in this game????
@@melvynsngltn27 pacers was still in the game until Kobe did what he did
He's the closest to MJ. There's no one else.
Kobe used to be biggest problem for San Antonio because we didn't have a guard that could match him in the early 2000s. Timmy could neutralize or match Shaq. But good luck doing that with Kobe.
Facts. Kobe & Shaq were 3-2 against the Spurs in the playoffs. Kobe lead the Lakers in scoring in 4 of their 5 matchups (01, 02, 03, 04). Then he did it again in 08 with Gasol (which they won).
@@melvinhhcp3615 PAU GASOL is the second most OVERRATED PLAYER IN NBA HISTORY behind LeBalco James.
2008 WCF vs the Spurs: Pau Gasol (again, OVERRATED) averaged 13 ppg THIRTEEN PPG (that's like Drew Gooden numbers) on 43% shooting.
GIVE Kobe Anthony Davis and he wins THREE STRAIGHT RINGS EASY.
I swear, basketball discourse is the lowest IQ discourse of any sport.
Ocho Kobe for me is lethal
KOBE IS THE GOAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rip Kobe and GG 🙏🏿❤️🐍
Frobe was a Killa! #mambaforever 💜💛
Number 8 kobe is still the best version in my opinion. Number 24 was just a more clever player but young kobe was just a different animal
Rip Kobe the greatest basketball player in the world and GG 💛💜
MJ is the greatest for me,at least he didn't have a rape case/trial ruining his legacy.Greatest-DUMMY-in the world you mean. LOL.
my freaking goat
Mofos forget that shaq fouled out this game💀 Kobe only had 6 by halftime and had 22 the whole second half including OT he went 4/5 in OT with a clutch put back to put them up 3 to win the game to take the 3-1 lead but he was “cArRiEd”😂
cant forget the kobe tape of the 16-1 run. He absolutely COOKED the spurs while shaq was robin in that series. I mean damn he even cooked the Kings too that run.
What stats did Shaq finish with
@@anhiirrThat was in 2001, the season after this one.
@@Paccc7557 36pts 21 rebs. Kobe 🌈 fanboys won't ever mention that though
@@melvynsngltn27 okay just making sure lol bc they act like he wasn’t a huge factor and had a huge game before fouling out lol
Lakers played damn near the whole roster in a finals game WOW
Yes They Did
Rip to all the other people as well 🙏🏿❤️
This channel is so underrated, Dawkins been killing it
But I thought Kobe was "carried"! 😂
He was a good sidekick Robin
@@LayManLast Even Shaq himself said Batman & Superman.
Niqqa Shaq fouled out with like 36&21 😂😂😂😂😂
@@lilcobe829what about the series before this? Kobe out played Shaq vs spurs wit 33 7 and 7 . It’s the finals I must say Shaq dominated due to matchups . The east was so bad lol u had to see those teams making offs with 38 wins lol
@@lilcobe829 He outweighed the Pacer centers by at least 70lbs! He was supposed do those numbers. 😭
No wonder Lebron's jealous. Kobe had a decent hairline and an epic fro
Most people who talk bad about kobes game are didn’t watch enough clearly just misinformed. He wasn’t perfect but damn close. My guy is the best ever
My guy Jordan was the best ever.MJ did a 3-PEAT-twice,no other team/player has done this in nba history.
Kobe was far from damn close to perfect
@@hardwoodthought1213 Very far from perfect,Phil Jackson called Kobe un-coachable in his bio,there goes that damn near perfect. He was also an &&&hole,ball hog who cared nothing about his team-mates.He was also involved in a legacy destroying rape case/trial. If this is your ideal of near perfect player you're wrong.
@@user-be7tc2bd6eyet the one who is “uncoachable” gave Phil Jackson FIVE championships (just ONE less than Jordan). You mentioning the rape case just shows how much you HATE Kobe. His case was dismissed because he was FALSELY ACCUSED. and you call him a “ball hog” even though he led the lakers in assists for 8 of his prime years. Yeah don’t make me laugh 😂
@@red._.thunderyt5472 Phil Jackson's words,not mine,amigo.The rape case was all Kobe's fault,cheating on your wife is bad enough,but,then get rape charges against you ???? DUMMY. LOL. Then you yourself,wife and kids though public humiliation and embarrassment,boy,what a-GREAT-husband and father. NOT. LOL. Led his team in assists in his prime years ??? It took team-mates,coaches,etc,etc,. to get through to his thick head and being stubborn to pass the ball to open team-mates,it was talking to a kid.That's how childish and immature this guy was,no wonder his team-mates dispised him.
Jalen Rose admitted years later to intentionally sliding his foot under Kobe after a shot to injure him. Kobe missed a game then came back and did this. All this carried talk is nonsense though, and that’s for anyone. No one can carry a team by themselves. It literally doesn’t make any sense. Jordan NEEDED Pippen, Shaq NEEDED Kobe, Kobe NEEDED Gasol Lebron NEEDED Kyrie, AD Wade, Wade NEEDED Shaq, etc. and that’s without getting into the role players who defend, rebound, hit timely shots, have a big scoring game here and there etc.
Facts
Facts. You forgot to mention, the GAME KOBE WAS INJURED SHAQ LOST TO INDIANA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@feynmanschwingere_mc2270 Shaq won game 1 where Kobe played like ass, and game 2 when Kobe went down with the injury.
man what a game only thing i dont like back in the day was the scoreboard wasnt constantly on the screen so sometimes u gotta guess what the score is LOL
Rest in peace
This Laker team was perfectly built. 2 all world stars with Kobe and Shaq surrounded by 2 knockdown 3 point shooters in Horry and Rice and the clutch shooting traditional point guard in Fisher. And don't forget they played elite defense along with a strong bench.
Reggie Miller boxing out his teammate on that last play LOL That's why Kobe got the rebound
A winnable game for Indiana but they blew it
Fuck a big 3 all you need is 2! A firm believer in having a dominant guard at the 1 or the 2 and a big man to help you out and if not a big man at least a great forwards like pippin
His teammates were hating the whole time
Reggie miller was going crazy too
almost ended the night😂
3:56……. Bruh….. look what Shaq did to that man……
I replayed it 5 times to see that then I googled Travis’ height and weight 😂
@@opinionatedreality9688 if you pause it, he’s almost literally upside down in midair 🤣🤣🤣
@@JasonBrendan-td4qb unbelievable
❤❤❤❤
Travis Best almost died😂😂😂😂 3:50
Fucken Kobe man !!!! My bad my bad this is Frobe RIP Mamba
They carried each other Kobe and Shaq one of the greatest duos
For the entire 2000 playoff run
Kobe - 21/3/4 on 44% shooting
Shaq - 32/16/3/3 on 59% shooting
How is it not a carry 😂😂😂 JJ the finals, Kobe was outscored by Austin Croshere
@@hardwoodthought1213 Kobe LED ALL PLAYERS in the 2001 Playoffs in WIN SHARES ahead of Shaq. ALL players.
Hush.
@@hardwoodthought12131. Kobe was INJURED SERIOUSLY by Jalen Rose.
2. He MISSED a game. What happened? They LOST without Kobe.
3. Shaq FOULED OUT in game 4. If Shaq was this FORCE MAJEURE you purport him to be, then they should have LOST.
3. Kobe has MORE RINGS WITHOUT SHAQ THAN Shaq has without Kobe.
4. Shaq, NOT KOBE, has been SWEPT an NBA RECORD 6 times.
Next time, something HIGH IQ please.
@@feynmanschwingere_mc2270 2001. What does that have to do with 2000? The Win Shares is a hilarious point anyone. Kobe had 3.8 WS in 2001, Shaq had 3.7 (he played less minutes, they had the exact same per 48). But if that’s your justification, Shaq in 2000 had 4.7, Kobe had 2.1 😂😂😂 Fisher in 2001 had 2.5, so more than Kobe had as as apparently 1B in 2000 LMFAO
I love when people use the injury and think it helps Kobes case. All it shows is that with LAs SECOND best player at 50% (being outscored by Austin Croshere), LA could still win.
Same as Game 4. You mention that, but ignore Shaq won Games 1 AND 2 with Kobe scoring 12 TOTAL points 😂😂😂
Peter Vescey interviewed Mark Jackson after Game 2 and asked if he was disappointed that with LAs SECOND best player out, Indiana couldn’t capitalise.
Jackson burst out laughing, and said take away our 2nd and 3rd best player, give us Shaq, we’d be fine 😂😂😂
Derek Fisher, perhaps one of 5 teammates Kobe had ever who respected and loved him was asked why LA was so successful in the early 2000s. His answer?
“Shaq. Without hesitation”
Try again Bozo
@@hardwoodthought1213 what did I start here … they carried each other and horry and fish helped bail both of them out a few times 🔐…
Basketball is a beautiful game .. I know that for a fact
All love - cali
The Laker role players were stars in their own role.
yep that roster 00 especially spoiled kobe into thinking he'd always have teammates that serious/driven. Lot of Playoff pedigree even champion-pedigree on that team. IMO he never had a team that good around him since for it to happen so young it took long for him to realize and learn to not take the talent around him and his guys for granted which also made watching the 3 finals runs w.o shaq so inspiring to see these 2 different versions of kobe
mike is the goat, but Kobe is a "LEGEND".
If you swapped out Kobe for LeBron, they lose this game. And they probably don't get out the west tbh lol
Your crazy if you think that
@@melvynsngltn27 a 20 year old LeBron is not making the clutch plays Kobe made during this run. LeBron wasn't clutch until he left Miami
@@TH-cq7bjnot true
@@melvynsngltn27 ok. you don't know basketball and that's alright. Go watch LeBron's playoff performances in the 07 finals, 09-11 playoffs and then come back
@@TH-cq7bj 2011 Dallas destroyed the Lakers with Kobe. Life long Lakers fan. Kobe was way overrated. His fanboys like yourself try to make him better than he really was
With a sprained ankle
Matthew 5:3
Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
All this on a bad ankle 😂😂😂 Poor Reggie was BBQ chicken
Kobe, not Shaq, is the common denominator in the LAKERS winning rings. Remember, Shaq was already in his PRIME by the time Kobe was drafted and wasn't "carrying" LA to NBA Finals DESPITE having Eddie Jones (all star), Nick Van Axel (all star) and Cedric Ceballos (all-star caliber talent).
How many WESTERN CONFERENCE Titles did Shaq win before Kobe?
ZERO.
How many times did Shaq get SWEPT in the playoffs before Kobe became old enough to legally buy alcohol? SIX.
How come Kobe OUTPLAYED PRIME SHAQ in the 2000 WCF, 2001 WCF, and the 2002 WCF (the de facto NBA Finals in that era due to how putrid the Leastern Conference was, and still is)?
Kobe ARGUABLY CARRIED Shaq during their 3 peat:
2000 - Game 7 Vs the Blazers = Kobe was the best player and CARRIED them from 20 points down to win the game.
1) Kobe Bryant 25 points and 11 rebounds 7 assist and the key assist to Shaq at the end.
2) "MVP" Shaq put up 18.0 points, 9.0 rebounds and 5.0 assist and was OUTSCORED and OUTREBOUNDED by Kobe in game 7.
In the 8 games that were a one possession game in the final 2 minutes of play:
lakers went 7-1 overall
"MVP" Shaq in those games put up 2 points.
2/4 FT line
Kobe in those same games put up 19 points.
6/9 shooting and 7/8 FT
No other laker scored above 4 points in those 8 total games in that period of time.
2001 - Without Kobe, Shaq would have kept losing to the spurs because DUNCAN WAS BETTER THAN SHAQ. Look it up, Duncan routinely outplayed Shaq regular and post season head to head. Kobe was the best player vs the spurs - which was the 2nd best team in the league and the best defensive team. Kobe Bryant averaged a ridiculous 33.3 points, 7.0 rebounds and 7.0 assists vs the BEST DEFENSIVE TEAM IN THE NBA in the 2001 SWEEP of the Spurs in the de facto NBA Finals. SA would've thrashed Philly. Kobe Bryant LED ALL PLAYERS in the 2001 Playoffs in Win Shares. ALL players, including PRIME Shaq and PRIME Duncan. How many "sidekicks" in NBA history have led the entire playoffs in Win Shares? Exactly.
2002 - Kings were better than Kobe and Shaq but Lakers got favorable calls. Still, Kobe led ALL PLAYERS in 4th Quarter scoring and that was the deciding factor in the entire series: 4th quarter scoring.
So minus Kobe, Shaq does NOT get out the west to feast on the WEAK east in the finals with their WEAK centers (old Dikembe, old Rik Smits, Jason Collins on the Nets? LOL).
Shaq already had Penny and was 0-1 in the finals.
And then he had TWO other all star guards in Nick Van Axel and Eddie Jones and STILL got swept twice.
98-99 Kobe started but SPLIT USAGE with Eddie Jones and they got swept but then 3 straight rings after that.
Imagine if Kobe had STARTED AS A ROOKIE like half of these BUM first round picks? Kobe's career scoring average would be neck and neck with MJ and the Lakers MAY have won 6 rings in the Kobe Era instead of 5 because his growth would've been accelerated with starter minutes and starter PRESSURE. Coach Harris, Kobe's rookie coach, had a draconian rule about starting rookies even though Kobe was cooking everybody in practice.
____________________________
Kobe has a HIGHER BOX +/- score than Shaq in the NBA Finals:
36 to 32
One last point:
2000 Finals vs Indiana. Jalen Rose injures Kobe's ankle (severe sprain, borderline grade 3 sprain) really badly. Kobe MISSES Game 3? Guess what. LA LOSES that game 3 without Kobe. So Kobe comes back and PLAYED THE REST OF THE FINALS INJURED and saves Shaq's legacy. How? Shaq FOULED OUT in game 4. Kobe led ALL players in 4TH/OT scoring and hit the GW FG in OT to win the game. 3-1. Indiana WON game 6, so if Kobe doesn't put on his superman cape WHILE SERIOUSLY INJURED, the ENTIRE series may have gone Indiana's way. Because if they lost that OT game, it's 2-2, and assuming history proceeds as it did, then they win Game 6 in blowout fashion, and then game 7 is anybody's guess.
Do you know why MJ is the most CLUTCH PLAYER EVER. He never even let it get to game 7. Now THAT'S clutch. 6-0, zero went to 7 games. Kobe was MJ's true heir, forget stats, he understood how to seize the moment.
Kobe led ALL players in the 2001 Playoffs in Win Shares. ALL players. NAME ONE SIDEKICK IN NBA HISTORY TO EVER TO THAT?
NAME ONE SIDEKICK IN LEAGUE HISTORY that lead an entire playoff run in Win Shares.
You can't find one in NBA HISTORY because they don't exist. Kobe is a top 5 player all time (MINIMUM - really top 2 ever).
Last point: KOBE scored the most points in a single decade in NBA HISTORY (with 21065 points, far more than anybody else) and that decade just so happened to be the LOWEST (and most inefficient) SCORING DECADE IN NBA HISTORY!!! He scored the most points in a decade with the most INTENSE DEFENSE EVER (that's what the numbers say, NOT my opinion). End of argument.
Mic Drop.
oneal still better whats the point.
Putting Mark Jackson on young Kobe, even with a injured ankle, was WILD 😭
Seriously, even though Shaq was clearly the #1 on this 99-00 Laker title team, in the most important game of the series, that would have evened the series at 2 had Indiana won (they blew the Lakers out in game 5) it was 21 year old Kobe who made the biggest shots in the game, with Shaq fouled out in OT.
"clearly the #1" NOT TRUE. And in 2001 Kobe, not Shaq, LED ALL PLAYERS in Win Shares in the 2001 Playoffs.
This was an era were the RULING paradigm (other than GOAT MJ) was: you WIN with a BIG superstar CLOSER to the time because it's EASIER to score shooting a preponderance of your shots CLOSER TO THE RIM.
In the 2000 WCF, the REAL Finals, KOBE OUTPLAYED SHAQ. Fact. Fact. Fact.
Game 7, the most IMPORTANT GAME OF SHAQ'S CAREER (but no fan talks about it because of a psychological effect called "outcome bias"), Kobe OUTSCORED Shaq and OUTREBOUNDED (let me repeat this: the "most dominant Center ever" got OUTREBOUNDED by Kobe Bryant, a guard) by Kobe.
They were DOWN 20 in Game 7 vs Portland (and Pippen that was STILL GREAT), and KOBE, not Shaq, brought them BACK.
Kobe was a beast!
They really was assaulting Shaq😂
How can you say Kobe got carried It was a Duo period.
Is like sayin kyrie got carried by Bron or Luka… now Kobe even way better than kyrie so immagine sayin that..
For the entire 2000 playoff run
Kobe - 21/3/4 on 44% shooting
Shaq - 32/16/3/3 on 59% shooting
How is it not a carry 😂😂😂 JJ the finals, Kobe was outscored by Austin Croshere
And Kyrie has achieved nothing as a number one option. Kyrie left and LBJ still made the finals
@@hardwoodthought1213 Kobe, not Shaq, is the common denominator in the LAKERS winning rings. Remember, Shaq was already in his PRIME by the time Kobe was drafted and wasn't "carrying" LA to NBA Finals DESPITE having Eddie Jones (all star), Nick Van Axel (all star) and Cedric Ceballos (all-star caliber talent).
How many WESTERN CONFERENCE Titles did Shaq win before Kobe?
ZERO.
How many times did Shaq get SWEPT in the playoffs before Kobe became old enough to legally buy alcohol? SIX.
How come Kobe OUTPLAYED PRIME SHAQ in the 2000 WCF, 2001 WCF, and the 2002 WCF (the de facto NBA Finals in that era due to how putrid the Leastern Conference was, and still is)?
Kobe ARGUABLY CARRIED Shaq during their 3 peat:
2000 - Game 7 Vs the Blazers = Kobe was the best player and CARRIED them from 20 points down to win the game.
1) Kobe Bryant 25 points and 11 rebounds 7 assist and the key assist to Shaq at the end.
2) "MVP" Shaq put up 18.0 points, 9.0 rebounds and 5.0 assist and was OUTSCORED and OUTREBOUNDED by Kobe in game 7.
In the 8 games that were a one possession game in the final 2 minutes of play:
lakers went 7-1 overall
"MVP" Shaq in those games put up 2 points.
2/4 FT line
Kobe in those same games put up 19 points.
6/9 shooting and 7/8 FT
No other laker scored above 4 points in those 8 total games in that period of time.
2001 - Without Kobe, Shaq would have kept losing to the spurs because DUNCAN WAS BETTER THAN SHAQ. Look it up, Duncan routinely outplayed Shaq regular and post season head to head. Kobe was the best player vs the spurs - which was the 2nd best team in the league and the best defensive team. Kobe Bryant averaged a ridiculous 33.3 points, 7.0 rebounds and 7.0 assists vs the BEST DEFENSIVE TEAM IN THE NBA in the 2001 SWEEP of the Spurs in the de facto NBA Finals. SA would've thrashed Philly. Kobe Bryant LED ALL PLAYERS in the 2001 Playoffs in Win Shares. ALL players, including PRIME Shaq and PRIME Duncan. How many "sidekicks" in NBA history have led the entire playoffs in Win Shares? Exactly.
2002 - Kings were better than Kobe and Shaq but Lakers got favorable calls. Still, Kobe led ALL PLAYERS in 4th Quarter scoring and that was the deciding factor in the entire series: 4th quarter scoring.
So minus Kobe, Shaq does NOT get out the west to feast on the WEAK east in the finals with their WEAK centers (old Dikembe, old Rik Smits, Jason Collins on the Nets? LOL).
Shaq already had Penny and was 0-1 in the finals.
And then he had TWO other all star guards in Nick Van Axel and Eddie Jones and STILL got swept twice.
98-99 Kobe started but SPLIT USAGE with Eddie Jones and they got swept but then 3 straight rings after that.
Imagine if Kobe had STARTED AS A ROOKIE like half of these BUM first round picks? Kobe's career scoring average would be neck and neck with MJ and the Lakers MAY have won 6 rings in the Kobe Era instead of 5 because his growth would've been accelerated with starter minutes and starter PRESSURE. Coach Harris, Kobe's rookie coach, had a draconian rule about starting rookies even though Kobe was cooking everybody in practice.
____________________________
Kobe has a HIGHER BOX +/- score than Shaq in the NBA Finals:
36 to 32
One last point:
2000 Finals vs Indiana. Jalen Rose injures Kobe's ankle (severe sprain, borderline grade 3 sprain) really badly. Kobe MISSES Game 3? Guess what. LA LOSES that game 3 without Kobe. So Kobe comes back and PLAYED THE REST OF THE FINALS INJURED and saves Shaq's legacy. How? Shaq FOULED OUT in game 4. Kobe led ALL players in 4TH/OT scoring and hit the GW FG in OT to win the game. 3-1. Indiana WON game 6, so if Kobe doesn't put on his superman cape WHILE SERIOUSLY INJURED, the ENTIRE series may have gone Indiana's way. Because if they lost that OT game, it's 2-2, and assuming history proceeds as it did, then they win Game 6 in blowout fashion, and then game 7 is anybody's guess.
Do you know why MJ is the most CLUTCH PLAYER EVER. He never even let it get to game 7. Now THAT'S clutch. 6-0, zero went to 7 games. Kobe was MJ's true heir, forget stats, he understood how to seize the moment.
Kobe led ALL players in the 2001 Playoffs in Win Shares. ALL players. NAME ONE SIDEKICK IN NBA HISTORY TO EVER TO THAT?
NAME ONE SIDEKICK IN LEAGUE HISTORY that lead an entire playoff run in Win Shares.
You can't find one in NBA HISTORY because they don't exist. Kobe is a top 5 player all time (MINIMUM - really top 2 ever).
Last point: KOBE scored the most points in a single decade in NBA HISTORY (with 21065 points, far more than anybody else) and that decade just so happened to be the LOWEST (and most inefficient) SCORING DECADE IN NBA HISTORY!!! He scored the most points in a decade with the most INTENSE DEFENSE EVER (that's what the numbers say, NOT my opinion). End of argument.
Mic Drop.
Travis best got smoked when he was fouling shaq. Lmao
Lebron kobe jordan
LOW I*Q nonsense. MJ. = 1st, Kobe =2nd, Lebron = 27th
Koby was a different player with Shaq less pressure for him compared to the other 2 rings he won after
Didn’t shaq have 36 pts & 21 rebounds ? Before even fouling out wdh 😂 stop playing with shaq huge factor
Didn’t he still foul out and Kobe make the big shots in OT? HUGE FACTOR
@@yoitsSmitty2004 as long as you acknowledge what he did and not pretend 36 pts and 21 boards isn’t a huge game 😂
@@yoitsSmitty2004 as long as you not delusional like the rest
Kobe, not Shaq, is the common denominator in the LAKERS winning rings. Remember, Shaq was already in his PRIME by the time Kobe was drafted and wasn't "carrying" LA to NBA Finals DESPITE having Eddie Jones (all star), Nick Van Axel (all star) and Cedric Ceballos (all-star caliber talent).
How many WESTERN CONFERENCE Titles did Shaq win before Kobe?
ZERO.
How many times did Shaq get SWEPT in the playoffs before Kobe became old enough to legally buy alcohol? SIX.
How come Kobe OUTPLAYED PRIME SHAQ in the 2000 WCF, 2001 WCF, and the 2002 WCF (the de facto NBA Finals in that era due to how putrid the Leastern Conference was, and still is)?
Kobe ARGUABLY CARRIED Shaq during their 3 peat:
2000 - Game 7 Vs the Blazers = Kobe was the best player and CARRIED them from 20 points down to win the game.
1) Kobe Bryant 25 points and 11 rebounds 7 assist and the key assist to Shaq at the end.
2) "MVP" Shaq put up 18.0 points, 9.0 rebounds and 5.0 assist and was OUTSCORED and OUTREBOUNDED by Kobe in game 7.
In the 8 games that were a one possession game in the final 2 minutes of play:
lakers went 7-1 overall
"MVP" Shaq in those games put up 2 points.
2/4 FT line
Kobe in those same games put up 19 points.
6/9 shooting and 7/8 FT
No other laker scored above 4 points in those 8 total games in that period of time.
2001 - Without Kobe, Shaq would have kept losing to the spurs because DUNCAN WAS BETTER THAN SHAQ. Look it up, Duncan routinely outplayed Shaq regular and post season head to head. Kobe was the best player vs the spurs - which was the 2nd best team in the league and the best defensive team. Kobe Bryant averaged a ridiculous 33.3 points, 7.0 rebounds and 7.0 assists vs the BEST DEFENSIVE TEAM IN THE NBA in the 2001 SWEEP of the Spurs in the de facto NBA Finals. SA would've thrashed Philly. Kobe Bryant LED ALL PLAYERS in the 2001 Playoffs in Win Shares. ALL players, including PRIME Shaq and PRIME Duncan. How many "sidekicks" in NBA history have led the entire playoffs in Win Shares? Exactly.
2002 - Kings were better than Kobe and Shaq but Lakers got favorable calls. Still, Kobe led ALL PLAYERS in 4th Quarter scoring and that was the deciding factor in the entire series: 4th quarter scoring.
So minus Kobe, Shaq does NOT get out the west to feast on the WEAK east in the finals with their WEAK centers (old Dikembe, old Rik Smits, Jason Collins on the Nets? LOL).
Shaq already had Penny and was 0-1 in the finals.
And then he had TWO other all star guards in Nick Van Axel and Eddie Jones and STILL got swept twice.
98-99 Kobe started but SPLIT USAGE with Eddie Jones and they got swept but then 3 straight rings after that.
Imagine if Kobe had STARTED AS A ROOKIE like half of these BUM first round picks? Kobe's career scoring average would be neck and neck with MJ and the Lakers MAY have won 6 rings in the Kobe Era instead of 5 because his growth would've been accelerated with starter minutes and starter PRESSURE. Coach Harris, Kobe's rookie coach, had a draconian rule about starting rookies even though Kobe was cooking everybody in practice.
____________________________
Kobe has a HIGHER BOX +/- score than Shaq in the NBA Finals:
36 to 32
One last point:
2000 Finals vs Indiana. Jalen Rose injures Kobe's ankle (severe sprain, borderline grade 3 sprain) really badly. Kobe MISSES Game 3? Guess what. LA LOSES that game 3 without Kobe. So Kobe comes back and PLAYED THE REST OF THE FINALS INJURED and saves Shaq's legacy. How? Shaq FOULED OUT in game 4. Kobe led ALL players in 4TH/OT scoring and hit the GW FG in OT to win the game. 3-1. Indiana WON game 6, so if Kobe doesn't put on his superman cape WHILE SERIOUSLY INJURED, the ENTIRE series may have gone Indiana's way. Because if they lost that OT game, it's 2-2, and assuming history proceeds as it did, then they win Game 6 in blowout fashion, and then game 7 is anybody's guess.
Do you know why MJ is the most CLUTCH PLAYER EVER. He never even let it get to game 7. Now THAT'S clutch. 6-0, zero went to 7 games. Kobe was MJ's true heir, forget stats, he understood how to seize the moment.
Kobe led ALL players in the 2001 Playoffs in Win Shares. ALL players. NAME ONE SIDEKICK IN NBA HISTORY TO EVER TO THAT?
NAME ONE SIDEKICK IN LEAGUE HISTORY that lead an entire playoff run in Win Shares.
You can't find one in NBA HISTORY because they don't exist. Kobe is a top 5 player all time (MINIMUM - really top 2 ever).
Last point: KOBE scored the most points in a single decade in NBA HISTORY (with 21065 points, far more than anybody else) and that decade just so happened to be the LOWEST (and most inefficient) SCORING DECADE IN NBA HISTORY!!! He scored the most points in a decade with the most INTENSE DEFENSE EVER (that's what the numbers say, NOT my opinion). End of argument.
Mic Drop.
@@Paccc7557 Delusional? What happened in GAME 7 of the 2000 WCF?
Hush.
the nba owe shaq 1 point ong
Ant is more comparable to this Kobe.
He needs another year or 2 to catch up to this version of Kobe. The year prior in 99, Kobe was all nba defense 1st team.
Nonsense. Ant man wasn't anywhere near as good a defender as Kobe YET. he's a year or 2 away.
Overrated Kobe Bryant did make some big shots but it was Shaq O'Neal who carried them Glenn Rice big shot ron Harper with the stop on Miller Derrick Fisher big shot big shot Robert horry the media made too much fuss about Bryant
"Overrated" Kobe OUTSCORED and OUTREBOUNDED Shaq in Game 7, the most important game of the ENTIRE PLAYOFFS, vs Portland. Carrying them back from being down 20 vs Portland in game 7.
The Lakers LOST the ONE game Kobe was injured in the 2000 Finals. Why?
In the 2001 Playoffs, WHO led ALL PLAYERS in Win Shares for the 2001 Playoffs?
Kobe Bryant.
Media made a big "fuss" about LeBalco even though he missed FOUR STRAIGHT SHOTS in before Kyrie hit the 2016 Game-Winner.
Last 2 mins of 1 possession games during the 2016 playoffs:
Bron - 5 points 2/9 fg 22%
Kyrie - 8 points 3-6 fg 50% and one of the biggest GAME WINNING SHOTS in NBA finals history.
Also Kyrie is 8th ALL TIME in Finals PPG. (27.69)
For reference;
Scottie Pippen is 45th all time (18ppg)
Pau Gasol is 54th all time (17ppg)
Haters Gonna Hate.
These commentators suck. lol