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Massey Harris 30 Awakens After Long Rest
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- Опубліковано 3 тра 2024
- Today's video provides a surprise quick start of the old tractor that's been sitting unused for 3 to 4 years. The reason it was moved off the side was because the seat pan broke right off of the reinforced center mount rendering it unsafe to use.
The final part deals with the replacement seat and seat spring. Not shown was the aggravating job of cutting numerous half inch belting circles to provide the rubber bushings inside the dampener for the seat spring. Without the dampener, the spring would be in a state of continuous and rapid bounce !! #tractor, #massey, #shop
Just recently found and purchased my great grandfather’s 1948 MH 30. I absolutely have fallen in love with Massey Harris since. Absolutely beautiful machines.
Awesome !! They are very functional small tractors for a little bit of land. Good luck with it. If its a non-runner, it'll be fairly easy to get fired up unless its stuck. Here's a playlist of mostly MH 30 videos if you are interested: ua-cam.com/play/PLk72G9DTzZ1scRe0kTxX5a_YIwtpTChTm.html
@@tractorman4461 Thank you! That is incredibly helpful. She is a runner, I’ve worked her on my New Idea 12A spreading manure. I’m planning a full restoration after I finish up my 1942 Allis Chalmers C.
@@shanerickert1304 cool. I’ve replaced all the worn gears, bearings and seals in a C & am done primering the rear end. The engine is on a stand waiting for sleeves & pistons etc.
Them old Masseys were really something. We had a 1952 MH 44 special bought new for the farm that pulled grain, manure, and hay trailers for 30 years then was retired to working a 5 acre garden with a 2 bottom plow, 4 foot drag, and an old 2 row corn planter right up until 2021. In the winter the old girl also handled snow plowing for me, and a few of my neighbors properties. You're 100% right about them old Continental engines in them Masseys. She'd fire right up no matter how cold our New York winters were. Something about the points on that tractor I rarely had to clean them even sitting out in the elements. All of those years of work and never had an engine overhaul either. While the old continental still purred, the old girl started needing a lot of work. The steering box was nearly shot, the seat was ready to fall off and worn like yours lol, and everything leaked, etc so I finally sold her to another old farmer that had been eyeing the tractor for years. He is an antique tractor collector and restorer and he had every MH tractor model except for the 44 special. Felt good to make that old man's day. haha I loved your channel for a long time now. These old tractors are going to out last the new ones I think and your knowledge of how to get them running is invaluable!
Well Brodie, you sure got the goodie out of that one. They ARE one of the most reliable tractors I've ever had the pleasure to run. But as time goes by all those parts moving together just kinda lose their tolerances. I sure am glad you let it go to someone who will probably bring a fresh new and much easier life to the old 44 !! Thanks for watching the silly stuff I do here, I do appreciate the time you guys all take to visit us here. Take care and have a great day.
@@tractorman4461 Thanks for the kind words! Yep, I saw the old 44 just before winter and that old farmer has her like new again. Such a sight to see! Yeah, you're spot on about time and things losing tolerances that's for sure. Even happens with the human body as we get older too. haha Take care, always looking forward to more stilly stuff. haha
I almost missed this one Wendell, don't know how that (almost) happened, but I sure do like those L Head Continental engines, and you are absolutely correct when you said they do run/perform beautifully.
What a dandy old Massey Harris!
Not a problem my friend !! I miss a few that I normally watch on occasion myself. I don't upload everything about these old tractors because I figure a lot of guys are getting tired of seeing them. But I don't know that for sure. Yes, I am a BIG fan of the L heads !!
Always great content and your vast knowledge of the old iron is impressive..
Well, lucky for me they are so simple to work on....usually. There ARE some that deal a fella a fit though. Thanks for watching and I agree with your username...Life IS good !!
Awesome to see it run Wendell 😁👍 Glad you got the seat mounted. Happy wrenching my friend 🔧
This was a very reliable tractor and only was parked due to the seat. So I really figured it'd fire pretty easy. Thanks Zane for tuning in for another one my friend.
Old iron just won't die!! Always dependable.
Yessir, a lot of times just knock the rust off and tinker a little with this or that and off she goes !! I like those, but I enjoy the tougher ones too. Thanks for watching Mike.
For years I have enjoyed your videos, especially after I realized you too are a Marine Corps veteran. I have similar interests and enjoy saving old tractors from the scrap yard. I always wondered about the Tractorman44 handle and thought maybe 44 was your birth year. But I thought you sure look young for a guy who’s been around for eighty years! Even your “much older brother” looks younger than eighty! Recently I saw one of your videos in which you shared that the 44 is a tribute to the Massey Harris 44- one of your favorites. As a boy helping haul hay I occasionally drove their 33 which was a treasured experience. Since retiring I’ve mechanically restored several Masseys. A MF50, MF35, TO35, and others. I’m in southwest Indiana and if you and your missus ever wanted to show your collection I’d convince my wife to make a trip to Missouri, which is where you are, right? No matter what, keep the videos coming. I really appreciate you sharing your talents and experiences!
Semper Fi my friend. Thanks for sharing your memories of your time on a 33. They too are very fine tractors, as you know, merely smaller versions of the 44. I appreciate all the kind words and thank you for watching for such a long time.
Yes, we are in Missouri right south of good ol' St Louis. I'm afraid you wouldn't be too impressed with my old rusty stuff, I really don't have anything special except an Avery A that blows a ton of smoke and a totally dismantled Oliver 66 orchard. The rest are plain jane run of the mill regular tractors that we use off and on as needed. No matter though, we always enjoy a visit from others with similar interests as there's always a ton of stuff to talk about.
I find it difficult to maintain steady tractor related vids because there are always so many things that occupy our time, but if I think its something of interest, I just set the camera up and try to make a video. Just yesterday I spent a few hours tarring the foundation, installing sock pipe and backfilling it for a shed we are building for one daughter. I didn't even think to set the camera up even though it was a good opportunity to. Lots of skidsteer time and I totally forgot about it !! Oh well, today is another day.
Have a great day and who knows...we may get to share some time over coffee one of these days !!
Great job! Another one on the running line!
Yessir...and I'm thinking its time for this one to go down the highway Jeff. I don't need the three point and have never used it. It might be something someone is looking for. All it needs is a 'new' used tire and tube. I still have two other 30's plus a parts 30 that runs.
Love the crotch throttle M-H's. That placement just feels right and the notched quadrant never slips.
Me too. Both our 44's back on the home place had these throttles. I have a couple with the friction disc up top and I don't like them nearly as much. I also have two 44 parts tractors, a 101 Senior, Super and a Jr that has the notched cast iron throttle quadrant up top. Those are tolerable because we had that style on two tractors back home too. But I prefer the 'crotch' throttle by far.
@@tractorman4461 Yeah, the 100 & 200 Series and early 30, 44, & 44-6 and all the 81/82/20/20K/22/Colt/Mustang tractors had a passable steering column throttle much like an Oliver 60/66/77/88, but a little nicer. I liked the Oliver one, but there was no advance ratchet to them. Totally square notches, so every adjustment was a lift and shift. We had a Cockshutt 60 Row Crop when I was growing up so I was used to the Oliver throttle.
That said, nothing ever felt as natural as my right hand dropping onto our 1950 44 Standard's crotch throttle to pull it a couple more notches for a heavier windrow on the baler or a hill on the disc or cultivator. In my humble opinion, the only throttle EVER more natural than a M-H crotch throttle is a foot throttle, but there's no setting a foot throttle. By itself, anyway. I thought they went backwards on the big friction disc throttle, not forwards.
I've had scads and scads of tractors of all brands, but there's two things nothing else can deliver the satisfaction of, and Number One is the M-H crotch throttle, and a VERY close Number Two is that solid, satisfying crunch of shifting a 30, 33, 44, 44-6, or 44 Special into road gear. It puts a smile on my face even just thinking about it. 🙂 The transmissions in those tractors were just Masterpieces.
Very interesting. Thanks for posting.
This one wasn't much of a challenge. But I like 'em like that when they do. Thank you for watching.
@@tractorman4461 this is what is impressive ...they just made them well/robust back in the day. I imagine a modern engine left in a similar situation would take much more to get it running again.
@@AustinsAmericanFlyertrains if you really want to see some cool first start videos, I have a bunch of them up in the playlists titled First Starts. Some are simple and some are very comprehensive. You may find some interesting ones.
Boy, that started nice!
I tell ya...these Continental flatheads are great machines Matt !! I just had to gently wake it from a three year nap is all. (-:
She’s alive 👍🤠
Hahahaha...she lives on to die another day..!! (-:
That was great buddy awesome video it started right up and sounds good take care hope you guys are having a great weekend
Yessir Tom, I got lucky on another one. It'd only sat for about three years so I figured she'd get with the program pretty easy. Heck, weekends are all week for us guys now. I have to be reminded what day it is most of the time. LOL
Awesome
Too bad I'm out of spare rear tires !! I'm thinking of letting this one go down the highway just like it is now. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment Wayne.
Save your old saw blades. Can fix the hole in the old seat. Enjoyed it as i always
Oh heck yeah. I have a lot of materials to choose from for the repair. The H seat was repaired by the previous owner with a piece of galvanized. Looks like it was from 30 years ago !!
Tractor man if you haven’t been to the tractor and automobile museum in Branson you should make the trip. There antique tractors on display is fantastic. They have several 333 and 444 on display.
Yes, we have been through it a few years ago. Maybe 5 years or so. We both really enjoyed the displays. I love to go to museums when we go places. I like agrculture museums the best, but combinations of home, farm and just the old days in general are great too !!
Sir? Sir?! Decals DO add horsepower! Haha. Sounds great!
Hahahaha....that was a spur of the moment comment. Sometimes I think guys like to make it look like it is more than it is to impress people that don't know what they're looking at. Heck, I don't think I've ever even bought a decal for one !! One of these days I MIGHT get the time to make one pretty.
I like the way my 530ck starts it has an s shifter position which force you to take it out of gear but i put the shuttle in neutral just to make sure.
Yes, that's the same set up as my old '73 580B CK hoe. It's a really nice simple safety feature for sure Rick.
Take a look at Lasersaber's ultracapacitor build. I use them in my old tractors and trucks and they are awesome. Way longer lasting than a battery. They work as a 6v or 12v with no changes. Let them go dead, freeze, whatever, leave them for years, charge them ( don't over volt), and you are good to go. Just don't have much reserve, so parasitic drains will drain them quick.
That' something I've not heard of. Thanks for the subject. I will have to go and check 'em out. They sound interesting. Might the concept be vintage military..?
Dont know who did it first. They are normally used in high draw sound systems with subwoofers to keep the electrical draw consistent. Otherwise the base hit causes lights to flash. Some of mine came from an electric train. The Maxwell and Eaton caps are the best, dont even bother with the Chinese ones.
@@derweibhai I use paralleled oil filled 20mfd caps rated for 330volts to create the phase shift in homebuilt three phase converters. I can't get a full 120* shift but at least it'll run a good sized 3 phase motor without over heating like single phasing will do. Thanks for the input. I looked them up and started reading about them to decide cost vs practicality and component availability.
@@tractorman4461 My cost is $250-300 per unit using 6 Maxwell 3000 Farad caps. It is a chunk of change, but considering that I was buying at least 1 new battery for my old junk per year at the $120-150 that they cost now that it would make at least a little financial sense. I can use 1 of these that weighs 8 lbs in my 6-71 powered International Fleetstar and it will even start in winter (can crank that engine 30-45 seconds until it dies). That same unit can be put in my 6V tractor and run just like any other battery. Never tried in a newer vehicle with all the parasitic drains. I did consider using a constant duty 12V solenoid and a switch as a cutoff hooked to the negative terminal.
looks good my 555d need pas loosening up will see when in uk late june by the the way its easter here this weeked kala pacha
I know you'll have a good time on a tractor drive with the 555 Nigel !! Have a great time my friend until then.
You know I don’t think that the old seat rusted away I think it was the last operator when he ate to many beans the night before and tried to pull a three bottom plow on the side of a hill 😀🇨🇦
Now by dang Keith...you just might be onto something there. LOL I'm just glad there's not a video....(with sound). (-:
@@tractorman4461 😀
Howdy sir
I did put just how you typed..
I resent it..
hopefully fingers crossed
I don't know what happened, but I got the second one...you should have the reply as well. Good luck with whatever you do with it and it IS too bad there's hundreds of miles between us.
Wendell, I like that tractor, can you please tell us in the next video of that tractor what is the deference between the 33 and 333
I'll try to remember to do that Jan. But for now, this one is actually a 30. The 33 and 333 both had overhead valve engines of 201 and 208 cu inches. This little 30 only has a flathead 162 cubic inch.
The 33 was rated around 27 or 28 hp on the drawbar, 36 on the pto and 39 on the flat belt. The 333 with 7 more cubic inches had the same drawbar rating, slightly more on the pto and flat belt. I think the weights were just about the same though so different tires probably could make a bit of difference in the field...don't know.
The little 30 was only rated at 21 hp on the drawbar, 33 or so at the pto and 34 on the flat belt. They had essentially the same 5 speed transmission and final drive but probably slightly differrent ratios. But they all, including the 44's had 2 3/4'' rear axles and hubs so all the wheels and tires would interchange. That's all I can think of off the top of my head and if not exact, it's pretty close anyway.
The previous owner stuck on a 333 sticker on the little guy, so it can be misleading to a guy. You have to look closer at the engine compartment to see the difference.
@@tractorman4461 Thanks for the explanation Wendell, very informative
@@jankotze1959 No problem my friend. Glad to have helped you out with that.
I love watching your videos....if only a man could download all of the knowledge that your generation has
Well thanks for watching the videos. Some are good and some not so good, but there's always something to do !!
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Good Morning my friend. Good to see you alive and well for another day !!
I had no doubts that you would get the engine running. What size rear tire does the Massey have?
That one's a 13.6 x 38. Your M might have 13.6 or maybe 14.9 x 38.
@@tractorman4461 Most of our M's have 15-5 x 38 tires because thats what the bottom land farmers run on the larger tractors. When the tread gets worn they buy new tires andsometimes I get lucky and am able to get some solid tires that dont require a boot. getting hard to find used 38's of any deminsion anymore,
Did you glue the replacement in the little seat shock?
No, I used hole saws and cut rings out of half inch belting to fit inside and washers as needed. So its still on a cushion, of sorts. Not metal to metal.
That was too easy.
Sometimes a guy gets lucky. Hey, this one is going onto Marketplace if you may know someone interested in it. The 3 pt might make it more interesting to some. For me, it's not a big deal at all. Bring a battery and drive it right on to the trailer.
I'll bite . What's the bungee strap on the hood do ? Thank you Wendell.
Hahahaha...well Bryce on my 'runners' that have to live outside I like to tarp them as good as possible. So I use plastic sheets of material to shield the sides of the engine compartments covering the carbs, distributor (on some) and alternator. Then I use 7 x 10 tarps lengthways to stretch over the steering wheels and seats all the way to the smoke pipe (and farther on others) and the bungee cord holds the front end of the tarp very securely from blowing in the wind. Sheds water and snow quite well. My wood shed has one empty compartment so two of the 30's have taken temporary residence in there. (-: No tarps. Yay.
It's time to go looking for another set of wheels. Even if they are still attached to a tractor 🤣
Oh man, that's a bit dangerous isn't it. LOL. But I LIKE the way you think.
@@tractorman4461 Just like "don't put all your eggs in one basket", you don't put all your old tractors in one shed. Then she'll never know it's a 'new ' one, unless she sees you bringing it home ! LOL
@@bluegrallis Hahahaha....I think she's on to most all my tricks by now. Between the Much Older Brother and myself we've tried 'em all. We used to tell the lady-folk that the new one that showed up was for not ours, we were just working on them for the other...then they'd get lost in the group in a short while. (-;
Hey my friend..
I sent you a email 😁😉
Awesome Gus. I’ll go check !!
Oh oh Gus it didn’t come through. Did you get all the letters in there ?? Whpete44@gmail.com.
Yes…. Maybe the pictures were too big….
Where does your unlimited Energy come from.???
What kinda food does you wife feed you???
Just had cataract surgery on both eyes, didn't feel a thing. No black or red eye's and now im told by my SURGEON that i have 20/20 vision at my age ( middle 70'DS) and ,now i can watch more of your videos thanks to modern technology and most of ALL THANKS TO GOD FOR ALL HIS BLESSINGS !!!!
Well Tom, that is very good to hear about the cataract surgery. Awesome, my friend. I'll soon be a candidate for that, I'm sure. I tell ya, life is really good Tom. We are all blessed in one way or another. Thank you for always the uplifting comment buddy.
Good afternoon Wendell..
I am glad you got it running.. That is a great thing..
Hey I would like to email you..
Can I possibly get your email…
I have a little story to tell ya…
Thanks for sharing this with us..
Cheers my friend
Heck yeah Gus...try this one: whpete44@gmail.com. I'll keep an eye out !!