@@brodee5 Trust me when i say this (and this is coming from someone who plays both league and smash bros on the regular...unfortunately), as soon as the FGC starts to delve deeper into the rabbit hole that is leagues community, It's going to make the smash bro's community look like a minor nuisance in comparison.
The whiplash I experienced reading the title of the video and expecting a funny 3 minute video and then realizing it was an hour an seventeen minutes long LMAO
"you don't understand league lore, your just saying ridiculous things about the world" tears in my eyes, this is crazy to read after someone said there's a purple world 😭
The contrast between skipping 5 characters in a row for being purple to instantly including the next one cause they’re in arcane had me laughing so hard
Obama just riling up a fanbase with his off the cuff impressions is the kind of content I didn't know I needed. Such a classic hater, it comes so natural to him it's like breathing.
@@whizthesugoi Creatures from the Void region are supposed to be Purple. This game's lore is like an MMO. Yordles are all small magical people. You want 100 characters to all be completely unique. How does that even happen?
Hey man. Appreciate you just Vibing and having fun with my ignorance lol. I'm going to download league and try it out on stream to learn more in earnest
How did nobody think of Kokonoe when talking about Heimerdinger? Give this man gravitrons and other shit, especially with assists, and give him release Koko's Black Hole unblockable. He deserves it.
I mean, you're not wrong but it definitely puts it into perspective to consider that in competitive, there's no mirror matches. Having multiple characters that occupy the same niche/role is really important. Imagine if you had to draft pick your characters in a 3v3 fighting game and someone could block you from picking your main.
If you want to do an extended cut, I'd recommend checking at the list of characters they ported over to the card game. League design gameplay wise puts characters in boxes A LOT since they have clear roles to fill. But the card game fleshes them out a lot more on thematic level. There was an article back then about "Runeterran truths" from the Project L devs, saying how you don't want to translate the gameplay, you instead want to pin down the gameplay fantasy of a character and start from there. Jax, the guy that fights with a lamp post, in the card game is depicted has having encountered and inspired people around the world to fight with whatever goofy ass weapon they have available. So there's a whole cycle of cards you pair in his deck where they randomly acquire equipments with different effects. The list of those weapons include : - An electric powered wrench - A cooking pot filled with spicy soup - An amulet that summons a spectral wolf - A fishing rod (with and without a fish attached to the tip) - A back scratcher - A shepherd's staff - A cast iron pan It's a great example of the design work the project L team also has to take when trying to translate these characters.
I was laughing when you skipped Bard, partly because he strikes me as a character you'd actually like but also because I totally get that sentiment when reading new character kits too.
The thing I love about fighting games based on different series is being able to look though and see how they could possibly fight like with the stuff they have
It's mad funny seeing Obama react to the character designs, especially because League players love their characters so much. He ain't ready for these chats about to come up on him mad as hell.
I've been playing League of Legends for 10+ years. Listening to an outsider's perspective about the characters and how its "Same person with different flavor" is totally valid and I can see where Majin Obama is coming from. League only gets new players through old heads, and I think if it weren't for that people would never pick it up. Obama, if you're really gonna play League then God speed to you and stay safe brother.
I have been clean on league of legends for close to 3-4 years now, I am looking forward to playing Project L of course... but watching you roast some of these characters was as validating as it was hilarious. This why you the best Obama
I'd say it's even worse. Camille is like a 7ft tall cyborg/robocop aristocrat with sword legs and Attack on Titan grappling hooks who puts you in magic-science prison - a pretty arguably unique and detailed character design regardless of what genre of games you're looking at - whereas Irelia nad her whole psychic Byakuya blades feels somewhat more like a generic anime fighter type character. Diana is pretty bland though I give him that.
Its cool to see someone who isn't deep into league reaffirm what a ton of League artists and critics say. So many of their characters (especially the women) are the same body, one of five faces, and then random shit.
I think the reason purple is so common is because it's used to show evil or danger, the game has been using that color for anything related to the Void for so long and anything that comes from there is basically a threath to anything outside of it
i get the "lol another purple assassin" argument but its still a bit goofy coming from someone that likes anime fighters like bro you must've heard the exact critique about your favorite games and rolled your eyes
@@doogies think of it like shotos- you got Ryu, Ken, Sean, Akuma , etc - someone not familiar with SF could look at them and make the same argument you are about league archetypes. That being said, your analogy of starting with a template and then specializing in different talent tree set ups is basically how league archetypes work - assassins, juggernauts, ADCs, enchanters, mages, junglers- champs fit one of those archetypes but are differentiated in what aspect of that archetype they excel at.
The consequences of Riot Games' success on character design and video game art styles have been catastrophic. These devs deadass make characters via injection mold. "ChatGPT output" ascribes too much intentionality and forethought to the primordial keyword soup that their 15th guy with sword or 45th waifu slithered out of. The way this aesthetic absolutely took over the games industry should be studied at the CDC.
I really hope they add Lee Sin and make his specialty placing wards to dash around to on screen kind of like Answer from Xrd. His Q would be a very unique fireball and I imagine the follow up would be plus on block.
Kayle would be Phoenix. The longer the game takes the more she comes online. She reaches her final form at level 16 (max meter) And she has an ultimate that prevents death so it’s kind of similar in that regard. Also, Solar Eclipse Kayle is the best looking Kayle which would also fit. Lol
Did he really just say that Diana and Camille are the same character?😂 Like, I would understand Sona and Seraphine, but Diana and Camille have literally nothing in common except gender.
Wonder if Riot could go for clone type characters (à la Smash) down the line to fill the roster. Do another 3D model, keep most of the animations, change up a couple of normals/specials and passive/status effect, boom new character to please the fans.
I loved this video. It's a good reminder not to take stuff seriously and laugh. When someone shit talks something you like the instinct is to get defensive, but it's more fun to just join in. Good video man!
lol funny vid obama. league characters kind of have a different vibe because like u said there are alot of overarching archetypes like void characters being purple monsters or ionia characters all being ninjas, and the real importance of a characters identity is their playstyle and specific abilities. looking forward to project l and as always more content from you brother
Video was a banger. Liked having Zerp with the offscreen commentary. Was like a talk show but more casual. Lost it at "Straight outta middle schoolers trapper keeper."
Watched the whole thing it was a lot of fun going through it with my brother who played League Definitely some characters that feel so free to get into the game like Tahm or Temo A lot of Characters who do similar things so it'll be really interesting seeing who they end up going with I can't wait to see it
Some things I think you are missing is looking into the actual lore of the character not just their LOL kit of abilities. Like a character heimer is known for a turret gun in LOL but the card game is actually building up robots to help him fight. So for me I think heimer not even having a turret gun but instead other inventions that act like traps a character like Old Testament from guilty gear or cagliostro from Granblue would use to control spots on the map.
i personally dont think most of the champions are similar in design like with diana, camille, and irelia, but i understand that there will be a difference of perspective due to how much of the IP we are exposed. i love hearing outsider perspectives so thanks for another great vid.
@@doogies For the splash arts, you're 100% right. In game, they play and look pretty differently (Diana and Irelia have a similar mechanic for the dashes, but they use it for different purposes). I fully agree that Riot struggles with "Same Face Syndrome" in splash arts a lot
@@doogies the similairities you connected were literally just woman + bladeded weapon. You realise fighting games have a whole ass archetype dedicated to characters that are just Ryu ar home, right?
IDK why all these league players in the chat are trying to act like people in the league community don't also complain about these character similarities running rampant in the roster.
@doogies yeah but they're really not. If these characters are the same, then what does that make our own Melty Blood which has literal alternate versions of the same character?
calling characters the same is so funny , like they have different weapons and abilities whats he talking about ? hes just looking at colours for some of em
I am sad that Obama skipped past some characters cause of the design choice. Cause I've been playing alot of League and fighting games so Ive been thinking about what these peoples movesets could be for a minute and was hoping he'd feel the same.
@@doogies Look they gotta show that some of these characters are from or tied to the purple eldritch fuck zone called the Void. Its what happens when you design characters that have to be viewed top down from a distance. Great video btw Lil Bussy hope you enjoy Project L when it comes out
YO, cool video obama! WAY better than the max video because you gave it a shot at actually thinking about how they would function in the game, but I also have trouble taking it seriously when you talk about how character theming makes these characters all the same. Of course, in a game of 160+ characters you're gonna have tons that feel and function similarly, but when it comes to the void characters it felt like the moment you saw purple you just said they were all the same, and they aren't.
The best thing about Project L is seeing the FGC and League communities interact with each other in the most hostile way possible
The only difference being that the FGC has like 1 or 2 LTG's here and there, where as with League there's millions.
It's still a win for the FGC to get traction. However, retaining the traction when they bash the league community is probably not happening.
@@brodee5 Trust me when i say this (and this is coming from someone who plays both league and smash bros on the regular...unfortunately), as soon as the FGC starts to delve deeper into the rabbit hole that is leagues community, It's going to make the smash bro's community look like a minor nuisance in comparison.
The whiplash I experienced reading the title of the video and expecting a funny 3 minute video and then realizing it was an hour an seventeen minutes long LMAO
ok it was 100% worth
Just combine Elphelt and Happy Chaos and turn Caitlyn into the most toxic character possible
aphelios is going to be so funny
Caitlyn would be cool but my heart knows that she should be Vi's built in assist.
Like Parasoul's sniper.
Laugh in Kindred
It's not too late to delete this comment so the devs won't see it
Diversity LOSS: This lesbian is a cop and a meta zoner!
Bruh if you're laughing at Udyr now, you should've seen what he looked like before. Him getting the Aris makeover is genuinely an improvement.
"you don't understand league lore, your just saying ridiculous things about the world" tears in my eyes, this is crazy to read after someone said there's a purple world 😭
Purple world?
@@BlueAxolotl67 the void, it's like a purple dimension.
The contrast between skipping 5 characters in a row for being purple to instantly including the next one cause they’re in arcane had me laughing so hard
Arcane went hard lol
Certified hood classic
MajinObama is that one dude at the Avengers movie who keeps asking shit like "is that Batman"
Lmaooo "when is superman coming?"
Obama just riling up a fanbase with his off the cuff impressions is the kind of content I didn't know I needed. Such a classic hater, it comes so natural to him it's like breathing.
It's honestly not that intentional lmao. I'm really just being honest
@@doogiesthe whole purple and Yordle thing is pretty reasonable
@@whizthesugoi Creatures from the Void region are supposed to be Purple. This game's lore is like an MMO. Yordles are all small magical people.
You want 100 characters to all be completely unique. How does that even happen?
@doogies he honestly does look like sonicfox 🤣🤣
You show Obama a picture of Potemkin beside a picture of Blitztank and he be like "Fam are you serious, these are the same character 😂" lmao
This was like 30% "damn he's spitting" and 70% "I cannot believe he slept on this character"
Loved it
I need to be sold on some of them lmao
its more like 5 to 95%
@doogies check Zed. He spawns shadows. Imagine having an OK from the knock back of shadow into moz up options. He's a ninja character 🎉🎉🎉
As a lifelong League player getting into fighting games more often I'm glad to see other people dive into the champions. Just that alone is awesome.
Hey man. Appreciate you just Vibing and having fun with my ignorance lol. I'm going to download league and try it out on stream to learn more in earnest
@@doogies I appreciate the content. also turn off your chat box when you do trust me.
How did nobody think of Kokonoe when talking about Heimerdinger? Give this man gravitrons and other shit, especially with assists, and give him release Koko's Black Hole unblockable. He deserves it.
I mean, you're not wrong but it definitely puts it into perspective to consider that in competitive, there's no mirror matches. Having multiple characters that occupy the same niche/role is really important. Imagine if you had to draft pick your characters in a 3v3 fighting game and someone could block you from picking your main.
I lost it when you started explaining the Arcane lore 🤣
Arcane went hard.
I appreciate that you tried to do Zac voice over without hesitation
If you want to do an extended cut, I'd recommend checking at the list of characters they ported over to the card game. League design gameplay wise puts characters in boxes A LOT since they have clear roles to fill. But the card game fleshes them out a lot more on thematic level.
There was an article back then about "Runeterran truths" from the Project L devs, saying how you don't want to translate the gameplay, you instead want to pin down the gameplay fantasy of a character and start from there.
Jax, the guy that fights with a lamp post, in the card game is depicted has having encountered and inspired people around the world to fight with whatever goofy ass weapon they have available. So there's a whole cycle of cards you pair in his deck where they randomly acquire equipments with different effects. The list of those weapons include :
- An electric powered wrench
- A cooking pot filled with spicy soup
- An amulet that summons a spectral wolf
- A fishing rod (with and without a fish attached to the tip)
- A back scratcher
- A shepherd's staff
- A cast iron pan
It's a great example of the design work the project L team also has to take when trying to translate these characters.
I was laughing when you skipped Bard, partly because he strikes me as a character you'd actually like but also because I totally get that sentiment when reading new character kits too.
The thing I love about fighting games based on different series is being able to look though and see how they could possibly fight like with the stuff they have
It's mad funny seeing Obama react to the character designs, especially because League players love their characters so much. He ain't ready for these chats about to come up on him mad as hell.
We have to come to terms
Project L is great because it comes with an inbuilt response to someone offering to play it with "No thanks, you can hold that".
*sees a lamb with a bow and a wolf*
“This is just a ninja sword character”
I've been playing League of Legends for 10+ years. Listening to an outsider's perspective about the characters and how its "Same person with different flavor" is totally valid and I can see where Majin Obama is coming from. League only gets new players through old heads, and I think if it weren't for that people would never pick it up. Obama, if you're really gonna play League then God speed to you and stay safe brother.
Watching this as a league and fighting game player is mad funny. So outta pocket with so many characters but it’s vibes.
I hope that despite a lot of character samey-ness they can make them shine as individuals through their gameplay.
Exactly. That's the challenge for them but tbh there are ENOUGH archetypes and wild-ish designs to where they have a lot to work with
I have been clean on league of legends for close to 3-4 years now, I am looking forward to playing Project L of course... but watching you roast some of these characters was as validating as it was hilarious. This why you the best Obama
This guy is literally "omg this chars both breathing. They same!"
This guy
drinking game: take a shot every time Obama says "I get it now"
I do get it now tho
Shaco could have canned mixups like Hibiki, where he rushes you with a clone but you don't know if the high or the low or neither is real.
hearing obama say irelia and camille are the same character is killin me lmao its like saying karin and cammy are the same character
Like 30 seconds on each character. Not going to be accurate with all your takes.
@@no_nameyouknow yeah i know its not that serious just jokes
Long Blonde haired white girls with big foreheads who punch and kick? They might as well be the same person 😂
I'd say it's even worse. Camille is like a 7ft tall cyborg/robocop aristocrat with sword legs and Attack on Titan grappling hooks who puts you in magic-science prison - a pretty arguably unique and detailed character design regardless of what genre of games you're looking at - whereas Irelia nad her whole psychic Byakuya blades feels somewhat more like a generic anime fighter type character. Diana is pretty bland though I give him that.
Hunted down the VOD like a freak to see what you said about Sett, glad I did, Day 1 Base Roster BAYBEE
such unashamed discrimination towards purple-skinned characters smh my head
It's okay bro they are from the "purple region" 😄
"Planes are mechs" is gonna fucking stay with me.
I was laughing hard at Pike. Majinobama says, "alright sell me on this guy" and someone in chat typed, "he's black"😂🤣
Love this video format. Appreciate the work Majin Obama.
I love how Obama sees 2 champs with a similar color scheme and inmediatly goes "its the same character"
Thats not what I said
this is my favorite piece of content ive seen in a hot minute, had me cracking up the whole time
Thanks for watching
Its cool to see someone who isn't deep into league reaffirm what a ton of League artists and critics say.
So many of their characters (especially the women) are the same body, one of five faces, and then random shit.
It's the saberface problem Takeuchi has but just with a western fanbase
we need a blue jeans & white tee region to balance the purple region
Yesss
It’s come full circle. Obama now sounds like his dad talking about Mario characters.
This was fun to watch in stream. I may disagree with you on a lot of it, but it was fun for me. Nothing serious just fun.
Its all fun n games n shittalk. Thanks for watchin
Thank you for validating my feelings that a lot of the roster has the same sort of vibe and feels AI generated.
I think the reason purple is so common is because it's used to show evil or danger, the game has been using that color for anything related to the Void for so long and anything that comes from there is basically a threath to anything outside of it
Purple is esports and a stimulating color and they just went HAM with that shit
I really just watched this whole thing start to finish 💀💀💀 great video once again Mr Obama
Ayyy thanks for stopping by man. Hope things are going well for ya in the meantime. Take care
i get the "lol another purple assassin" argument but its still a bit goofy coming from someone that likes anime fighters like bro you must've heard the exact critique about your favorite games and rolled your eyes
？ the volume of those two comparisons is not the same and even when it occurs in those I think that shit is lame too lol
@@doogies think of it like shotos- you got Ryu, Ken, Sean, Akuma , etc - someone not familiar with SF could look at them and make the same argument you are about league archetypes.
That being said, your analogy of starting with a template and then specializing in different talent tree set ups is basically how league archetypes work - assassins, juggernauts, ADCs, enchanters, mages, junglers- champs fit one of those archetypes but are differentiated in what aspect of that archetype they excel at.
This guy will have Vietnam flashback is Soraka entered the Project L
The consequences of Riot Games' success on character design and video game art styles have been catastrophic.
These devs deadass make characters via injection mold. "ChatGPT output" ascribes too much intentionality and forethought to the primordial keyword soup that their 15th guy with sword or 45th waifu slithered out of.
The way this aesthetic absolutely took over the games industry should be studied at the CDC.
I really hope they add Lee Sin and make his specialty placing wards to dash around to on screen kind of like Answer from Xrd. His Q would be a very unique fireball and I imagine the follow up would be plus on block.
That's a cool idea. Answer/bang style is cool
Top tier kontent. Can't wait for the fgc vs. Riot fanboys twitter wars.
Kayle would be Phoenix. The longer the game takes the more she comes online. She reaches her final form at level 16 (max meter) And she has an ultimate that prevents death so it’s kind of similar in that regard. Also, Solar Eclipse Kayle is the best looking Kayle which would also fit. Lol
I think A.B.A. when i think of Kayle for similar reasons. Starts out as trash but as she scales install she becomes oppresive.
Just watched another big segment of the video. Please put Valkenhayn/Nidalee in the base roster!
HE SAID PETSHOP VIBES 💀
I've learned from this video that league only consists of Beards, the color Purple and Yordles
You just spoke for 60% of the cast
Did he really just say that Diana and Camille are the same character?😂
Like, I would understand Sona and Seraphine, but Diana and Camille have literally nothing in common except gender.
yordle with a hard r is fuckin wild lmaoooooooooo
Wonder if Riot could go for clone type characters (à la Smash) down the line to fill the roster. Do another 3D model, keep most of the animations, change up a couple of normals/specials and passive/status effect, boom new character to please the fans.
I loved this video. It's a good reminder not to take stuff seriously and laugh. When someone shit talks something you like the instinct is to get defensive, but it's more fun to just join in. Good video man!
Thanks for watching and vibin. Had some ppl mad lol
lol funny vid obama. league characters kind of have a different vibe because like u said there are alot of overarching archetypes like void characters being purple monsters or ionia characters all being ninjas, and the real importance of a characters identity is their playstyle and specific abilities. looking forward to project l and as always more content from you brother
Thanks for pullin up
Video was a banger. Liked having Zerp with the offscreen commentary. Was like a talk show but more casual. Lost it at "Straight outta middle schoolers trapper keeper."
Tryndamere is literally Berserker from DNF Duel. He's just a guy one handing a really big sword and he gets a bit angry
Watched the whole thing it was a lot of fun going through it with my brother who played League
Definitely some characters that feel so free to get into the game like Tahm or Temo
A lot of Characters who do similar things so it'll be really interesting seeing who they end up going with
I can't wait to see it
this video passed by so fast didn't even realized it was a hour
Thanks for letting it play lmao
Majin burning league bridges is crazy
in 13 years the league community never got hit as hard as that day Obama decided to look at the roster... LMFAO!
Aww man don't be like that lol
Some things I think you are missing is looking into the actual lore of the character not just their LOL kit of abilities. Like a character heimer is known for a turret gun in LOL but the card game is actually building up robots to help him fight. So for me I think heimer not even having a turret gun but instead other inventions that act like traps a character like Old Testament from guilty gear or cagliostro from Granblue would use to control spots on the map.
Imma need blitzcrank with that Spencer full-screen grab
i personally dont think most of the champions are similar in design like with diana, camille, and irelia, but i understand that there will be a difference of perspective due to how much of the IP we are exposed. i love hearing outsider perspectives so thanks for another great vid.
Thanks for watching. Idk man some of them def seem "samey" lol
@@doogies For the splash arts, you're 100% right. In game, they play and look pretty differently (Diana and Irelia have a similar mechanic for the dashes, but they use it for different purposes). I fully agree that Riot struggles with "Same Face Syndrome" in splash arts a lot
@@doogies the similairities you connected were literally just woman + bladeded weapon.
You realise fighting games have a whole ass archetype dedicated to characters that are just Ryu ar home, right?
Rain might be favorite fg character of all time but there is such a thing as too much purple
salute you putting in the real work here, bro. Playing my 2 games at Evo as close as I'm getting to any of this Runeterra stuff til the game's out
Two things I learned from this video are that obama says yordles with the hard r and purple is out of the question
IDK why all these league players in the chat are trying to act like people in the league community don't also complain about these character similarities running rampant in the roster.
Lets go! Twisted Fate love. Felt like the only person who wanted him in.
Obama I love you bro but this was legit some "Melty has no drip" type shit. Stay tuned for the response vudeo.
I didnt say they have no drip. Hell I like some of them lmao. I'm just saying a lot of them are kinda copy paste...
@doogies yeah but they're really not. If these characters are the same, then what does that make our own Melty Blood which has literal alternate versions of the same character?
As a mundo main I want to be able to blockstring into cleaver toss
calling characters the same is so funny , like they have different weapons and abilities whats he talking about ? hes just looking at colours for some of em
As someone who's played and loved just about everything about league for good part of a decade.
U spitting ngl.
Also shoutouts for loving wukong! Lol, was my first charector I used to learn the game. Put a smile on my face when u immediately clicked with him
THANK YOU
Wukong is based
Thanks to you I'm going to start calling Anivia Pet Shop
Damn, Riot having people by the balls defending this shit. Pull up at the toplane. The fight between my sword viking vs your axe viking gonna be sick.
Imagine Obama's reaction to all the sword characters in Smash
Ike >>>
Surprised Sylas was skipped over. He could copy the enemy's assist and/or super. Interesting counter pick potential.
Wasn't skipped just not in the vid. Gave me rogue vibes or some kirby stuff
They can have a wholeass side game just for the yordles or purple characters
Too much purple
Lord majin has passed judgment on the league cast. It is a blessed day for riot games.
"That looks like sonicfox" lmao im already dead
I gotta see the solo queue League content now. This same vibe but playing the damn game bout to go foolish
34:14 had me dead. That one guy still trying to say these characters aren't carbon copies of each other, appearance wise. 💀
"unbench the kench" is so damn funny
A fellow Tahm Kench enjoyer. You love to see it
I love it
THIS VIDEO IS A FUCKING BANGER 10/10 OBAMA CANNOT MISS
Dr. Mundo needs to be in this game, but only if he has a booty cheeks grab
“Oh he gets big? Lemme see…” - Majin ‘23
lmao
Not him just ignoring fiddlesticks
Thanks for the vid. Helping majorly with a shitty day, appreciate what u do
It will pass man. Just make it to tomorrow
You know I never noticed how much purple there was in this game lol. I guess cause the void theme for a lot of them but still
“Planes are mechs” Macross Plus Delta
coming from the same dude who made the melty blood has no drip video, this is crazy lol. now that the roles are reversed i understand
Oh u don't like it huh? Also huge stretch to compare. Hold that
"is LoL just DBZ?"
Obama with real takes like usual.
I am sad that Obama skipped past some characters cause of the design choice. Cause I've been playing alot of League and fighting games so Ive been thinking about what these peoples movesets could be for a minute and was hoping he'd feel the same.
Bro the purple is CRAZY
@@doogies Look they gotta show that some of these characters are from or tied to the purple eldritch fuck zone called the Void. Its what happens when you design characters that have to be viewed top down from a distance. Great video btw Lil Bussy hope you enjoy Project L when it comes out
“I’m rooting for everybody Yordle” -Yordle Tina Fey, Issa Rae
YO, cool video obama! WAY better than the max video because you gave it a shot at actually thinking about how they would function in the game, but I also have trouble taking it seriously when you talk about how character theming makes these characters all the same. Of course, in a game of 160+ characters you're gonna have tons that feel and function similarly, but when it comes to the void characters it felt like the moment you saw purple you just said they were all the same, and they aren't.
6:45 Aey, it's the Violator from spawn!
yup
32:42 I have very good news for you about how hard they tried the first time then.