thanks Caco and the rest of the Autodeal team. this comparo, as i was watching it, is not easy to do. I appreciate your best efforts to help, guide, inform would-be buyers looking for their new crossover. Autodeal comparos are definitely worth watching. Maraming salamat po.
i own a coolray, love it but if i had some extra cash, definitely would have gotten the hrv. Mostly because the flat seats. Better to have it and not need it, than need it but not have it. No complaints on the geely though.
Coolray was in ECO mode which might have contributed to the lag. Though it's true that HRV's new engine from Civic is really good and not to mention reliable.
@@francislouie1480 coolray have a really good chance of beating the HRV if its in sports mode Coolray can go 0-100 in 7.9 seconds while the civic using a similar engine can go 0-100 in 7.8 seconds and since the HRV is heavier i assume it would also be slower
Dikit lang sila halos sa power. Pero yung HRV malayo lamang nya sa fuel economy vs sa GCR kahit neck and neck sila. Mas refined pa din talaga mga engines ng Honda.
As a GCR owner, I use NORMAL mode on clear highways. I only use ECO mode in traffic. I am afraid to use SPORTS mode... The one time I used it, it felt like driving a different, speed crazy car. (^_^)
Of course, Honda for the win. Looks, fuel efficiency and no matter what the Geely fanbois say- Honda will always be Honda. No ifs and buts. Thanks did this comparo Caco. Made the right choice.
I agree with Caco on most aspects of his comparo on all 4 vehicles. But I felt the coolray suffered a bit of injustice with the speed test. The HRV was clearly in normal mode while the GCR was in its most conservative state which is eco. Should've cranked it up to normal for the coolray and it would surely have been a diff narrative for sure.
Changan CS35 Plus would have been a great contender because of what you get for the price. As an owner of the Changan CS35 Plus Luxe 2022, I am smiling. I think I made the right choice.
Love the light bars on that vehicle… been a curious of how it would look like even before sya mauso. Just curious though, did u try checking the comfort variant ng Coolray? It’s got everything u need s sports variant (mainly engine, trany, head unit and fun to drive)
@@pugimeaku9221 every Direct injection engine meron yan sakit na ng DI engine yan basta hindi lang sobra at parating mag change oil much earlier than recommended
If the Territory was put on Sport Mode it would have been a lot noisier. Haha. Sometimes I do find it struggling like that, and sometimes it’s torquey and quiet. Ride comfort is absolutely excellent even for the driver but it hurts to see its fuel economy. ACC is a blessing btw. No ragrets.
I also own a territory. sport mode has lesser noise and a lot responsive and faster. In this video, it's not in in sport mode. Acceleration from 50 to 100 is very good. I'm surprise that 100 to 170km/h acceleration is more satisfying.
As for the gas prices, the Hrv was the winner. I hope the govt will remove the excised tax for the vehicles so that everyone will buy these new cars. My fathers kia besta van fuel consumption is 16km per liter while his montero 2016 avarages between 10-12 ltrs per km. We daily drive those cars. If they cancel both excise tax from the automobile and oil, the government might get more taxes because it might effect the industry of businesses and non business. Remember, more people more taxes, more jobs more taxes, more affordable things means more taxes because of expenditures of the people. More taxes on prime comodities means recessions, prices will go up because of value added taxes, the power to buy get less then affect goes on domino effect... I hope this new leader of the country get the best advisers who are at the stocks. If he gets the advisers who are 3-4 letter family names it would be desastrous to the country. Good luck Philippines
The new leader or the lack thereof? Ayun party2 at travel vlogs lng alam ni Dayunyor. Completely lutang at removed from reality. D nga alam ang current state ng environmental impact ng global warming. #alamano
@Jonathan Suniga at 1.3m price, I would pick the Coolray over the HRV-S for the engine power and more fun to drive. on the other hand HRV turbo - at its price there are better options available
While I’m not super familiar with all these models I feel like one important category is missing…SAFETY! These are family haulers and safety features should be a high priority. How many airbags? Are crash ratings available? Do they have Automatic Emergency Braking, collision warnings, blind spot monitoring, etc… Great review otherwise! Saw Caco at the BMW dealership the other day taking out the iX for a spin, looking forward to that review.
I was able to try the Territory, and I really liked the interior and tech but the engine performance felt lacking. It's not just the unresponsive CVT, but even when the engine hits its stride it still felt sluggish (and really noisy). The body control is also unusually loose for a crossover, it almost felt like a body-on-frame SUV like a Fortuner/Montero. It felt heavy compared to the other crossovers I tried like the Coolray and Corolla Cross. I haven't tried the ZST yet, but I was surprised to see it had similar acceleration times as the Territory. I was expecting the Aisin 6 speed automatic and lighter kerb weight to make it closer to the Coolray and HR-V. I understand performance isn't really priority with these cars, but still I was expecting better.
Exterior: Honda CR-V Love this kind of comparo! More of this please! But next time, it would be better that for the speed test, it should be 0-100kmh and not 50-100kmh, set all vehicles on equivalent drive modes may it be sport mode if a vehicle has one or normal mode if competitors have none, and brake-torque for the launching. Also, in a controlled environment e.g. drag strip or car race track for safety and accurate results and speed meter device.
Geely's eco mode really does suppress the acceleration input, unlike other cars where only shift points are adjusted. You should have used at least comfort mode for the test.
@@phondekarvidheshI own Honda HRV 2018. Malakas sya and responsive pro iba c geely nung natest drive ko. Pro ewan ko if ano ang performance ng latest model ni honda kc magkaiba cla ng year e. Im switching to Geely this year.
Request naman ng vids, boss Caco! * Top 10 most fuel efficient cars in 2022 * Comparo ng crossovers/subcompact crossovers (yung kasama yung Toyota Corolla Cross kasi yan balak ko bilhin hahaha) * Tips for first time buyers?
With it's price. Nothing can beat the geely coolray. One of the best offering of a brand in almost forever now. I wish geely would continue to prove chinese car haters wrong and make a healthy competition in car industries now and to the future.
Not to mention, u don’t need to spend 1.2m to get a coolray. Most of the usable features mentioned here are in the comfort variant. No power tail gate, not leather seats, no 360 degree cam or auto park, no sunroof but all others? U get the same engine, same trany, space, 10.something HU, cruise and 100% fun to drive
I've seen the HR-V from the releasing vehicles in the dealership. It looks gorgeous and elegant from the inside and out. That color looks stunning in person!
Can't believe I'm saying this because I love Caco and this channel but this Comparo felt like a setup for the HRV to win right from the start. You just feel it. Also, they reviewed the HRV when it came out and the tone of that review is so much different to what he was saying here. Also if you actually know the PH market, no way are they settling for a subcompact crossover if they had a 1.6M budget for a car.
Autodeal is really out here comparing a 1.6M car to others ranging from 1.1-1.3. You don’t need a comparo to know which one would come out on top. That’s fucking common sense LMAO
@AJ RVRight. But like I said, it kinda doesn’t make sense if you compare a model priced almost half a million pesos higher than the price points of the competitors in this comparo. It is obviously(or at least it should!) going to come out on top. I think this compare should not have been “turbo”-wise, but rather “price-point”-wise, where it would be the base variant of the HRV that will be included. Or, he could also have compared the HRV Turbo to the Toyota Corolla Cross and maybe the Mazda CX-30. But that’s just me.
same thing with malaysian/indonesian reviewers. when the new HR-V arrived, the setup was all biased against coolray. could it be same thing happening here?
Maybe just me but I also consider the after-sales aspect when deciding to buy a new car. And that includes the integrity, professionalism, parts cost and availability, technical expertise of the casa that I would deal with several times after I bought the car. Also, maybe petty, is the AFTER-sales customer service. Sure it varies from casa to casa but I'm sure their the general level of management, brand culture and standards would still manifests on their customer service. For example, I generally find Honda service centers (I have dealt with two - Alabang and Makati) more professional and competent than Hyundai service centers (I have dealt with two also - Alabang and Las Pinas) that I'm more inclined to choose a Honda than a Hyundai, other factors being the same of course.
You forgot to include the CHANGAN CS35 plus with its fully Loaded features and huge discounts, the GAC GS4 the most affordable COMPACT Crossover in the market and the Unique Peugeot 2008 the Best Looking Subcompact Crossover from Europe.
Ah, the Mazda CX-30 or the CX-5? IF HR-V will be pitted against the new CX-5 Turbo AWD, then HR-V will eat dust (but it's more expensive.) But CX-30 will surely be unable to hold a candle to that Civic engine.
Edit: As @smirkinggoku5435 pointed out, the video is a comparo of turbo variant subcompact crossovers, so my comment is irrelevant to the discussion as I didn't realize the "turbo only" note. Leaving the comment here for the sake of keeping a transparent edit history. Was hoping the comparo would look at the HR-V S, not the V. The V variant is priced at 1.6m, which is way above the price range of the other models included (
And again, as Cacao mentioned.. if price is the most of your concern.. then definitely have the HR-V V Turbo last on your list. That’s why he gave it a 1pt. Gets???
@@smirkinggoku5435 Hi! Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't notice that this was focused on only Turbo variants when I commented this. You're right, 5 seconds in and Caco definitely said "all turbos". It just didn't seem that obvious to me from the title and caption, but that's on my for not listening intently. I'll edit my comment to reflect the oversight.
Nice comparo. Budget an issue or not, i'd pick the new hrv v turbo any day. Hope autodeal would do a comparo between mazda 3 and the honda civic. Both have almost same price and spec.
We’ve got a Ford Territory and you’re take on the infotainment and acceleration is spot on! I’m not loving it but have accepted the shortcomings. Overall, the FT is still a good value.
07:41 if the box is too heavy, you can always open it before putting it inside of the trunk/cargo space. Remove the contents, then put the empty box inside the trunk, then put the individual items back inside the box. When you arrive home, take the contents of the box straight to the kitchen. There's a high probability that you just came from the supermarket. After you empty the box, spread it open and use it to cover the windshield while parked somewhere else. At least that's what I would do.
Caco already made known of his bias towards the HRV @ 4:22 lol. Kidding aside, I agree that the Coolray should have been on sport mode during the speed test or normal mode at the very least. Great comparo though.
He was talking about the exterior at that timestamp, hindi yung overall favorite niya. Personal preference daw yung exterior so the audience can decide for themselves. BUT for him, the Honda HRV daw "looks best".
Any comparisons with the MG HS? Kind of choosing between HS & Territory at the moment. As per some people, the Territory eats a lot of gas, & the issue of the HS (going uphill slowly) is pretty typical with its provided transmission, & takes some time for the user & the car to get used to Just wanted to confirm.
Shouldn't MG have been represented by the HS Trophy instead of the ZST? It's in the same ballpark size-wise + price-wise and it also has a turbo. The ZST, notwithstanding its bang-for-your-buck value, would probably be better off being compared with smaller crossovers, in my humble opinion.
Honda was always been a reliable brand, performance wise and space management, however the pricing is so high, to my opinion i think the Geely won, cause the value you get from a price point is so much bigger, i m really sad to see Ford loses in driving and engine performance, indeed the engine was so loud and aggressive, therfore Ford is just an overrated brand, I'd personally vote for coolray as a winner, and it'd ve been so much better if you told us what was Driving mode there were in, so to conclude. in the PH market, i think the Coolray is on top, cause of it s performance, design, material, tech, and it's price, it's really a cool car to get, i'd love to sre them adding vent AC at the back and add the android and Apple to the infotainment system, in the future, that way, even if the price got slightly higher, it would be the best car out there to get compared to the other 3,.
It has air vents under fronts seats (sadly no wat to retract the air towards you) And Info tainment can be modded to support android auto/apple carplay. It has also the biggest screen and most responsive infotainment in all 4. Propriety thing lang kaya di sila naglalagay nung apple/android by default
There's a big difference in acceleration in eco and comfort (normal) mode in Geely Coolray. A bit unfair using eco mode for coolray. You could have also choosen to put it in Sports mode if you're testing just for acceleration.
Territory- ford is a trusted brand compared to geely and mg.. check its doors also and you’ll see the difference, territory is noticeably heavier because of ford safety features.. the HRV is too much expensive.
Eco mode doing speedtest on GCR and Normal in HRV. put both in Sports and well see who gets it. i Tried both and Coolray beats all others. downside for coolray is if it gets damage you need to wait for more than a year to be repaired and for parts.
That Coolray is almost at par with the acceleration time with the HR-V and to think, it was in Eco mode, now what if it is in Sport Mode, that HR-V could have eat the dust of the Coolray haha
Traditionally, "turbo lag" is greater with a single turbo design (that is why most of the higher end or performance cars use a dual turbo setup. Great videos from you, thank you.
The territory is the only vehicle here with independent rear suspension, thats a huge plus considering the rest cheaped out with their torsion beam rear suspension.
@@savageaf1943 kayo yung perfect na market ng mga cheap “suv” na nilalabas ng mga manufacturer kasi hindi nyo alam kung ano yung tinipid sa oto, basta naka led headlight tapos mags na ok na 😂
@@savageaf1943 you obviously cannot distinguish good cars from bad ones, kesyo makupad kesyo cvt, mukhang wala ata kayo pambili, yun yung madalas mang lait pag wala naman pambili, pinoy nga naman
I just recently got my Coolray, and believe me when I say that I don't regret an inch. Comfort, Tech, and the 3 modes where you could go- Normal (Yellow), Eco (Blue), Sports (Red). And not to mention the LED light strips on doors where the light depends on what mode you are in. With only 1.26M, plus the interior which has something that is supposed to be in a 2M car, has already been included. The manual? you could change the gears on the steering wheel like a sportscar. The theme of the car is really good with people who loves sports and comfort at the same time.
As a previous owner of a 2020 Honda Civic LX Sport, I can say everytime I put it to sport mode there is a bit of a lag. Now as owner of the 2022 Geely Coolray Sport, as far as I can say having owned/ driven both, If I am driving both at a traffic light and the signal drops green, I can assure you my Civic will eat my Coolray's dust if its a battle of Sport mode vs Sport mode.
True, but what I am pointing out is the response regardless of turbo or non turbo when you put both on a sport mode. Malakas din po ung Honda Civic LX Sport if you put it on sport mode, dont get me wrong. The only problem is before siya hahatak may konting lag muna mga 1.5-2 secs in which it isnt supposed to be that way,dapat walang lag. Now the HRV is being compared to a Civic na parehas ung engine nila. But other than that a Honda is a Honda.
I dont understand... Ford Territory is not a subcompact crossover SUV " The Ford Territory is a compact crossover SUV produced by Ford through the JMC-Ford joint venture in China since 2018. " by google
They’re comparing it because of the price 🙄 every car reviewer does this because of the price range of the territory, for me its still a compact crossover suv. Price point is subjective. Its up to the brand how they want it to be priced if it is below the competition thats there advantage already
Then why the hell are they comparing these cars to hrv turbo. Should be with the non turbo if they're basing it in price point. Pretty sure hrv will come off last or third at most if that's what they did
@@johncruz1379 could be some marketing gimmick to boost the HRV sales. Comparing a car almost a half million peso more expensive than similarly sized chinese CUVs which has eaten a big slice of the pie from japanese brands...
I love Autodeal's videos, but this one is kind of imbalance? MG HS or RX5 should have been the representative for MG as MG ZS-T is only in the same category with Stonic, Tucson, etc. Also, GCR was in Eco Mode during acceleration test? No wonder why it didn't win. HRV could've still won overall, but at least it would be in a fair manner. Still, nice comparo!
What if we replace the Turbo HR-V with a non-turbo? Will the HR-V still be the winner of this comparo? Just wondering.. 🤔 I think the price is the only downside in choosing the HR-V.
I am a Honda HR-V 2018 owner and after almost 5 yr of using my honda, without any issues by the way, I am now switching to Geely Coolray. Main reason is I could not afford the Honda which is now priced above 1.6M. It's too pricy for its size. That is why I'm switching to coolray for the tech and the affordability. I hope it will not dissappoint me.
It has been several months since this comment is posted. Wondering po if you already made the switch and if you can provide us a feedback how was it? Planning to get GCR hehe
Results are expected. The japanese will surely be on top compared to these 3 chinese cars. Yeah, they're cheaper. But look at what you don't get just to save a couple of thousands. You'd be spending over a million anyway, so make the most of your money. Go get the decent one. HRV.
Coolray was on Eco mode only. Sorry, this wasn't a fair power comparo. The power difference between modes are very noticeable especially from Eco to Sport.
I'm glad the japanese brand still won. Was kinda expecting it to be beaten by these overspecd chinese crossover. Glad Honda proved it wrong otherwise. Nice comparo!
Honda doesnt prove anything. Its 400k more expensive than the rest. The non turbo hrv which has the same pricepoint as the the other china brands is garbage in terms of everything price wise.
@@Mabrook2024 let's assume you don't have anything at the moment, will you still opt for gcr? Apologies for the weird question, just trying to establish a logical thinking if you were given a chance like this.
@@helloworld9124 My friend, i have had the EK civic in the 90s. Today i would still pick the GCR over the HRV for the savings i get from the 1.60M assuming i have in the bank now. If i will go all out for 1.60M, i would get a bigger car.
Eco mode in the Coolray is just bad and laggy due to the restraints to conserve gas. But, if you go Comfort mode in the coolray, it is reactive and zippy as fu.. what more in Sports mode. However, it just really is bad with gas consumption, it's so-so. Honda just kills the competition with the gas consumption part. In terms of interior the Honda HR-V could've done better coolray slays it minus the aircon vents at the back. There's that small bit of injustice given to the coolray though for the top speed section. But still, Honda's getting better. Coolray for second place isn't so bad also. Previous owner of Honda units and currently has a Coolray also btw bago ako ma bash. 🤣
Itong Honda brv ko 2017 wla pang major na sira dito. Good engine, aircon super lamig hanggang ngaun.. Ang nagastos ko lng dito isang gulong pa napalitan kasi na flat😅 Peru Kong sabihin mo na makina na trouble wla. Saka 2017 up to 2022 still very good running condition. So literal na maasahan ang Honda😂
Sure, the Honda HRV Turbo is the winner and the only variant that matters. But it's price is so close to a full sized SUV, wouldn't it be more practical to buy those instead?
One of the best Comparo you did so far...just a suggestion though,try to include a slalom to test handling brake test for safety and a simple decibel test for road noise.if you can incorporate those areas you'll be more awesome.
I really wonder why most car reviewers don’t include Changan CS35 Plus for reviews and comparos like this. I think CS35+ is a good contender in this segment considering its price as well. Also, this comparo is kinda… 🤔
yes.. price and tech pa lang lamang na ang cs35+ luxe. interior is subjective and the exterior is also quite good. hopefully next time maisama na ang cs35+ luxe
comparo is kinda? I'll wait for for you to make a comparo video of these 4 plus the CS35(once you can afford to get one, or when any Changan dealership lets you borrow one for a review). Show us how to properly make a comparo video.
@@idontalwaysmemebutwhenido748 I don’t need to make one as I’m not a ‘car reviewer’, just a wondering CS35+ owner. :) Lost for words to describe this comparo hence … no need to be condescending. chill. :)
Why do i feel this was a biased comparo to the side of Honda? I don’t believe it took 7 secs for GCR to reach 100 from 50 (especially when claims from Geely says 0-100 in less that 8, 7 secs from 50 is questionable). I’ve been driving in eco for almost the whole time we’ve had our GCR, and never has it lagged. Power is instantaneous, it goes when u step on the gas, more so when u’r already at 50. Also, relying on Gaco to say go and stop could contribute to some time delays. It would have been better if the timer was seated back and just looked at the gauge.
@@raycg80 tough pill to swallow? Its a honda vtec engine what do you expect a chinese engine can compete? Plus with all that power with more fuel efficiency
@@MisterLaughAlot do u actually own a honda or an hrv to be precise? Not sure if u’r in our comments just to bash GCR owners because u’r a Honda fan without actually having one. But before u go ahead an bash us, test drive a GCR first so u’d know what we’re talking about. Also, did u notice that the GCR was in eco mode? That’s the weakest of three modes
@@raycg80 I own a 2000 honda civic and 2015 accord. I have rode my brother-in law's geely coolray it was fast for a crossover but nothing special liked the interior but skeptical of the quality. My problem is that all you geely fanboys make a big fuss about the speed test "geely was on eco mode" if it made a difference the honda would still win because of the fuel efficiency. Hrv lead by a 5 point margin. You can deduct 1 point for your eco mode speed test.
The Changan CS35 Plus should be part of this comparison. Best value for money..
Geely still impressive @ 2nd place in the spd test while playing handicapped in Eco mode.
agree they should have tried it in normal mode was surprised the gauge cluster was in blue and yet it still did better than terri and mg 💪🏼
Long term reliability, resale value, fuel economy, fun to drive. HRV it is. Nice video!
right, resale value is important to me.
thanks Caco and the rest of the Autodeal team. this comparo, as i was watching it, is not easy to do. I appreciate your best efforts to help, guide, inform would-be buyers looking for their new crossover. Autodeal comparos are definitely worth watching. Maraming salamat po.
If i have a tight budget, I’d go for coolray otherwise I’ll pick Hrv RS
i own a coolray, love it but if i had some extra cash, definitely would have gotten the hrv. Mostly because the flat seats. Better to have it and not need it, than need it but not have it. No complaints on the geely though.
Coolray was in ECO mode which might have contributed to the lag. Though it's true that HRV's new engine from Civic is really good and not to mention reliable.
could have beaten the hrv when it is in sports mode?
@@francislouie1480 coolray have a really good chance of beating the HRV if its in sports mode
Coolray can go 0-100 in 7.9 seconds while the civic using a similar engine can go 0-100 in 7.8 seconds and since the HRV is heavier i assume it would also be slower
Dikit lang sila halos sa power. Pero yung HRV malayo lamang nya sa fuel economy vs sa GCR kahit neck and neck sila. Mas refined pa din talaga mga engines ng Honda.
Same with HRV naka eco mode w/ green sign
As a GCR owner, I use NORMAL mode on clear highways. I only use ECO mode in traffic. I am afraid to use SPORTS mode... The one time I used it, it felt like driving a different, speed crazy car. (^_^)
Hi, I noticed that the coolray was in eco mode during the acceleration test. Might have been better if sport mode was used.
Should have been in normal mode in all comparison..
He love Honda more than competition Kasi 😅
@@k.b.cbruce3246 yup!
@@k.b.cbruce3246 agree!
Oo nga blue yung background ng speedometer.
Sana man lang nilagay sa normal mode.
Of course, Honda for the win. Looks, fuel efficiency and no matter what the Geely fanbois say- Honda will always be Honda. No ifs and buts. Thanks did this comparo Caco. Made the right choice.
I agree. Some geely fanboys are still in denial about the video lol
Shit value. Not as comfortable as the zst
naiyak sila mamaya magrereklamo walang pyesa haha
Saka na lang nila ilaban yang geely pag may naka 300k odo na
lolz, honda fanboys
I agree with Caco on most aspects of his comparo on all 4 vehicles. But I felt the coolray suffered a bit of injustice with the speed test. The HRV was clearly in normal mode while the GCR was in its most conservative state which is eco. Should've cranked it up to normal for the coolray and it would surely have been a diff narrative for sure.
injustice sa coolray
True. HR-V on normal mode while GCR was on Eco.
Changan CS35 Plus would have been a great contender because of what you get for the price. As an owner of the Changan CS35 Plus Luxe 2022, I am smiling. I think I made the right choice.
One of the best choice din high tech at malakas din engine
Love the light bars on that vehicle… been a curious of how it would look like even before sya mauso. Just curious though, did u try checking the comfort variant ng Coolray? It’s got everything u need s sports variant (mainly engine, trany, head unit and fun to drive)
Notable omissions, in my opinion:
Changan CS35
Chery Tiggo 7 Pro
GAC GS4
And maybe the Peugeot 2008
@@johnmckhloykie2262 Yes, the lion is also a very interesting crossover 😀👍
HR-V is over my budget, so Coolray is a great 2nd. But HR-V's fuel economy, engine power, looks and tech might make it worth 1.6 in the long run.
You won’t regret a Honda. That’s for sure😀
May oil delusion den ba yan makena yan sya ng civic
@@pugimeaku9221 every Direct injection engine meron yan sakit na ng DI engine yan basta hindi lang sobra at parating mag change oil much earlier than recommended
hrv is sluggish and engine grunting and tarmac noise is annoying…
Worth noting that the previous gen hrv lost to the coolray in a head on collision test
Coolray value for money 😊👍
Pero I agree with Caco for the HRV 😅
If the Territory was put on Sport Mode it would have been a lot noisier. Haha. Sometimes I do find it struggling like that, and sometimes it’s torquey and quiet. Ride comfort is absolutely excellent even for the driver but it hurts to see its fuel economy. ACC is a blessing btw. No ragrets.
I also own a territory. sport mode has lesser noise and a lot responsive and faster. In this video, it's not in in sport mode. Acceleration from 50 to 100 is very good. I'm surprise that 100 to 170km/h acceleration is more satisfying.
As for the gas prices, the Hrv was the winner. I hope the govt will remove the excised tax for the vehicles so that everyone will buy these new cars. My fathers kia besta van fuel consumption is 16km per liter while his montero 2016 avarages between 10-12 ltrs per km. We daily drive those cars. If they cancel both excise tax from the automobile and oil, the government might get more taxes because it might effect the industry of businesses and non business. Remember, more people more taxes, more jobs more taxes, more affordable things means more taxes because of expenditures of the people. More taxes on prime comodities means recessions, prices will go up because of value added taxes, the power to buy get less then affect goes on domino effect... I hope this new leader of the country get the best advisers who are at the stocks. If he gets the advisers who are 3-4 letter family names it would be desastrous to the country. Good luck Philippines
The new leader or the lack thereof? Ayun party2 at travel vlogs lng alam ni Dayunyor. Completely lutang at removed from reality. D nga alam ang current state ng environmental impact ng global warming.
#alamano
I had the dilemma of choosing between the Coolray and the new HRV, In the end I went with the Okavango Urban, so far very satisfied
But what if you only have to choose between the 2, which one will you choose?
@Jonathan Suniga at 1.3m price, I would pick the Coolray over the HRV-S for the engine power and more fun to drive.
on the other hand HRV turbo - at its price there are better options available
While I’m not super familiar with all these models I feel like one important category is missing…SAFETY!
These are family haulers and safety features should be a high priority. How many airbags? Are crash ratings available? Do they have Automatic Emergency Braking, collision warnings, blind spot monitoring, etc…
Great review otherwise! Saw Caco at the BMW dealership the other day taking out the iX for a spin, looking forward to that review.
The cs35+ should be included in this comparo
I was able to try the Territory, and I really liked the interior and tech but the engine performance felt lacking. It's not just the unresponsive CVT, but even when the engine hits its stride it still felt sluggish (and really noisy). The body control is also unusually loose for a crossover, it almost felt like a body-on-frame SUV like a Fortuner/Montero. It felt heavy compared to the other crossovers I tried like the Coolray and Corolla Cross.
I haven't tried the ZST yet, but I was surprised to see it had similar acceleration times as the Territory. I was expecting the Aisin 6 speed automatic and lighter kerb weight to make it closer to the Coolray and HR-V. I understand performance isn't really priority with these cars, but still I was expecting better.
Now I'm convinced in terms of comfort & safety, I'm choosing MG ZST for my parent. Good for seniors drivers.
Ohhhhhhh :>
A 30 minute Autodeal video....let me get my popcorn ready.
HR-V Turbo vs Corolla Cross GR-S Hybrid next please!
Exterior: Honda CR-V
Love this kind of comparo! More of this please! But next time, it would be better that for the speed test, it should be 0-100kmh and not 50-100kmh, set all vehicles on equivalent drive modes may it be sport mode if a vehicle has one or normal mode if competitors have none, and brake-torque for the launching. Also, in a controlled environment e.g. drag strip or car race track for safety and accurate results and speed meter device.
And maybe someone timing it from behind instead of relying on Caco’s start and go words
Geely's eco mode really does suppress the acceleration input, unlike other cars where only shift points are adjusted. You should have used at least comfort mode for the test.
Comfort mode lang. Pag eco mahina talaga. Try the sport and I'm sure talo silang lahat ng coolray . I own a coolray and I know how it performs.
@@redentorrabino4087 How about the HR-V in sport mode?
@@phondekarvidhesh tapon parin bro tested
@@phondekarvidheshI own Honda HRV 2018. Malakas sya and responsive pro iba c geely nung natest drive ko. Pro ewan ko if ano ang performance ng latest model ni honda kc magkaiba cla ng year e. Im switching to Geely this year.
@@redentorrabino4087 as if naman papalag yung sport ng coolray sa sport mode ng hrv hahha wake up
Request naman ng vids, boss Caco!
* Top 10 most fuel efficient cars in 2022
* Comparo ng crossovers/subcompact crossovers (yung kasama yung Toyota Corolla Cross kasi yan balak ko bilhin hahaha)
* Tips for first time buyers?
With it's price. Nothing can beat the geely coolray. One of the best offering of a brand in almost forever now. I wish geely would continue to prove chinese car haters wrong and make a healthy competition in car industries now and to the future.
after one year of use , tanginang coolray dami na kalampag
@@arkinjade355 baka naman sir di ka maingat mag drive at hindi mo sinusunod maintenance ng sasakyan?
Yes. If you are on a very tight budget..you will get GCR.
Not to mention, u don’t need to spend 1.2m to get a coolray. Most of the usable features mentioned here are in the comfort variant. No power tail gate, not leather seats, no 360 degree cam or auto park, no sunroof but all others? U get the same engine, same trany, space, 10.something HU, cruise and 100% fun to drive
I've seen the HR-V from the releasing vehicles in the dealership. It looks gorgeous and elegant from the inside and out. That color looks stunning in person!
Can't believe I'm saying this because I love Caco and this channel but this Comparo felt like a setup for the HRV to win right from the start. You just feel it. Also, they reviewed the HRV when it came out and the tone of that review is so much different to what he was saying here. Also if you actually know the PH market, no way are they settling for a subcompact crossover if they had a 1.6M budget for a car.
Autodeal is really out here comparing a 1.6M car to others ranging from 1.1-1.3. You don’t need a comparo to know which one would come out on top. That’s fucking common sense LMAO
@AJ RVRight. But like I said, it kinda doesn’t make sense if you compare a model priced almost half a million pesos higher than the price points of the competitors in this comparo. It is obviously(or at least it should!) going to come out on top. I think this compare should not have been “turbo”-wise, but rather “price-point”-wise, where it would be the base variant of the HRV that will be included.
Or, he could also have compared the HRV Turbo to the Toyota Corolla Cross and maybe the Mazda CX-30.
But that’s just me.
same thing with malaysian/indonesian reviewers. when the new HR-V arrived, the setup was all biased against coolray. could it be same thing happening here?
It boils down to "it's a Honda" 😅
Maybe just me but I also consider the after-sales aspect when deciding to buy a new car. And that includes the integrity, professionalism, parts cost and availability, technical expertise of the casa that I would deal with several times after I bought the car. Also, maybe petty, is the AFTER-sales customer service. Sure it varies from casa to casa but I'm sure their the general level of management, brand culture and standards would still manifests on their customer service. For example, I generally find Honda service centers (I have dealt with two - Alabang and Makati) more professional and competent than Hyundai service centers (I have dealt with two also - Alabang and Las Pinas) that I'm more inclined to choose a Honda than a Hyundai, other factors being the same of course.
You forgot to include the CHANGAN CS35 plus with its fully Loaded features and huge discounts, the GAC GS4 the most affordable COMPACT Crossover in the market and the Unique Peugeot 2008 the Best Looking Subcompact Crossover from Europe.
Thanks to this comparison, my first car ended up being the Honda HRV-V Turbo. 🥰🙌🏻 kudoz to Autodeal for delivering an excellent review. 🥳🙌🏻
26:26 He had the coolray in eco mode, obviously it was not going to react as quickly as in sport mode.
Our mg zs is already 80km now with mo issue we encountered..so I'll go for MG and best for value fo money
Honda killed it. But I think we should include a mazda crossover here :)
And the Subaru XV
Ah, the Mazda CX-30 or the CX-5?
IF HR-V will be pitted against the new CX-5 Turbo AWD, then HR-V will eat dust (but it's more expensive.) But CX-30 will surely be unable to hold a candle to that Civic engine.
@@Jan-xf8sk the mazda CX5 is 2.5 million already hahaha
Killed it? Not in comfort
@@vantom6194 thanks Captain Obvious.
Honda!!!Any day of the week and twice on a sunday!!!!❤❤❤❤❤
Edit: As @smirkinggoku5435 pointed out, the video is a comparo of turbo variant subcompact crossovers, so my comment is irrelevant to the discussion as I didn't realize the "turbo only" note. Leaving the comment here for the sake of keeping a transparent edit history.
Was hoping the comparo would look at the HR-V S, not the V. The V variant is priced at 1.6m, which is way above the price range of the other models included (
Lol it was a Turbo comparo. 😂😂😂 The S variant doesn’t have a Turbo. And that’s why Cacao gave the HR-V a 1pt for the price segment.
And again, as Cacao mentioned.. if price is the most of your concern.. then definitely have the HR-V V Turbo last on your list. That’s why he gave it a 1pt. Gets???
@@smirkinggoku5435 Hi! Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't notice that this was focused on only Turbo variants when I commented this. You're right, 5 seconds in and Caco definitely said "all turbos". It just didn't seem that obvious to me from the title and caption, but that's on my for not listening intently. I'll edit my comment to reflect the oversight.
Nice comparo. Budget an issue or not, i'd pick the new hrv v turbo any day. Hope autodeal would do a comparo between mazda 3 and the honda civic. Both have almost same price and spec.
We’ve got a Ford Territory and you’re take on the infotainment and acceleration is spot on! I’m not loving it but have accepted the shortcomings. Overall, the FT is still a good value.
i wonder why they didnt include changan cs35+ luxe in the lineup? i think it will compete well
07:41 if the box is too heavy, you can always open it before putting it inside of the trunk/cargo space. Remove the contents, then put the empty box inside the trunk, then put the individual items back inside the box. When you arrive home, take the contents of the box straight to the kitchen. There's a high probability that you just came from the supermarket. After you empty the box, spread it open and use it to cover the windshield while parked somewhere else. At least that's what I would do.
GCR design is not for claustrophobia, but for accident protection. Much body mass as possible
Caco already made known of his bias towards the HRV @ 4:22 lol. Kidding aside, I agree that the Coolray should have been on sport mode during the speed test or normal mode at the very least. Great comparo though.
He was talking about the exterior at that timestamp, hindi yung overall favorite niya. Personal preference daw yung exterior so the audience can decide for themselves. BUT for him, the Honda HRV daw "looks best".
@@jameszyrile2968 "Kidding aside"
coolray all the way
for the price of hrv there are better options out there
Any comparisons with the MG HS?
Kind of choosing between HS & Territory at the moment. As per some people, the Territory eats a lot of gas, & the issue of the HS (going uphill slowly) is pretty typical with its provided transmission, & takes some time for the user & the car to get used to
Just wanted to confirm.
How come the Changan CS 35 Plus wasn’t included? Seems like a perfect crossover to be included in this comparo
Shouldn't MG have been represented by the HS Trophy instead of the ZST? It's in the same ballpark size-wise + price-wise and it also has a turbo. The ZST, notwithstanding its bang-for-your-buck value, would probably be better off being compared with smaller crossovers, in my humble opinion.
I was wondering also....they should have compared the MG HS trophy
Honda was always been a reliable brand, performance wise and space management, however the pricing is so high, to my opinion i think the Geely won, cause the value you get from a price point is so much bigger, i m really sad to see Ford loses in driving and engine performance, indeed the engine was so loud and aggressive, therfore Ford is just an overrated brand, I'd personally vote for coolray as a winner, and it'd ve been so much better if you told us what was Driving mode there were in,
so to conclude. in the PH market, i think the Coolray is on top, cause of it s performance, design, material, tech, and it's price, it's really a cool car to get, i'd love to sre them adding vent AC at the back and add the android and Apple to the infotainment system, in the future, that way, even if the price got slightly higher, it would be the best car out there to get compared to the other 3,.
It has air vents under fronts seats (sadly no wat to retract the air towards you) And Info tainment can be modded to support android auto/apple carplay. It has also the biggest screen and most responsive infotainment in all 4. Propriety thing lang kaya di sila naglalagay nung apple/android by default
Hende reliable ang torbu ebgine ng honda
@@pugimeaku9221 do you own one to say their turbo is not reliable?
@@monching6919 sabe mekaneko pag may torbu mas nakaranas stress engine at mas marame moveing parts mens madame masera in the futurr
@@monching6919 wag mo nako paandaran ng do you own one
Man oh man.
Been waiting for this since forever.
My money is on the Coolray by the way.
i love the look of the new hrv! but at that price for the turbo variant it just a tough pill to swallow
Not to mention the ground clearance is lower due to it’s exhaust sticking under
There's a big difference in acceleration in eco and comfort (normal) mode in Geely Coolray. A bit unfair using eco mode for coolray. You could have also choosen to put it in Sports mode if you're testing just for acceleration.
Big fan of the comparo! Hope you can make one that's HR-V vs Corolla Cross Hybrid.
Territory- ford is a trusted brand compared to geely and mg.. check its doors also and you’ll see the difference, territory is noticeably heavier because of ford safety features.. the HRV is too much expensive.
Agree!! FT all the way ...
lol
Thanks Caco funny & informative comparo. HRV FTW but i hope they can improve the tech/design of the interior...
GAC GS4 ,Chery Tiggo 7pro and Changan CS35 plus should be included
Agree. Laging wala yan mga yan sa comparo. Even in sedans
this is going to be a popular video by autodeal! kudos guys! well done!🎉
Eco mode doing speedtest on GCR and Normal in HRV. put both in Sports and well see who gets it. i Tried both and Coolray beats all others. downside for coolray is if it gets damage you need to wait for more than a year to be repaired and for parts.
That Coolray is almost at par with the acceleration time with the HR-V and to think, it was in Eco mode, now what if it is in Sport Mode, that HR-V could have eat the dust of the Coolray haha
Traditionally, "turbo lag" is greater with a single turbo design (that is why most of the higher end or performance cars use a dual turbo setup. Great videos from you, thank you.
The territory is the only vehicle here with independent rear suspension, thats a huge plus considering the rest cheaped out with their torsion beam rear suspension.
kabagal nyan.. tpos cvt pa bulok sisi ka tlga dyan haha
I do not agree with the speed test..The FT can get to 100kph in 10 seconds, from 0 to 100, i've tested it so many times.
@@savageaf1943 kayo yung perfect na market ng mga cheap “suv” na nilalabas ng mga manufacturer kasi hindi nyo alam kung ano yung tinipid sa oto, basta naka led headlight tapos mags na ok na 😂
@@504yaj hahah bakit yang territory wala ba sa category ng cheap suv? the ego ptawa...biglang lihis ng topics sa mags etc haha pinoy nga nman
@@savageaf1943 you obviously cannot distinguish good cars from bad ones, kesyo makupad kesyo cvt, mukhang wala ata kayo pambili, yun yung madalas mang lait pag wala naman pambili, pinoy nga naman
I just recently got my Coolray, and believe me when I say that I don't regret an inch. Comfort, Tech, and the 3 modes where you could
go-
Normal (Yellow), Eco (Blue), Sports (Red).
And not to mention the LED light strips on doors where the light depends on what mode you are in.
With only 1.26M, plus the interior which has something that is supposed to be in a 2M car, has already been included.
The manual? you could change the gears on the steering wheel like a sportscar.
The theme of the car is really good with people who loves sports and comfort at the same time.
100% Ka Geely!! No complaints here too!!
the Changan CS35 continues to get snubbed in comparisons and reviews. grabe :(
I agree. The CS35 is a tough contender 👍
i know. CS35 is so underrated and it barely gets any attention.
Yeah, missed chance. However, it's possibly not Autodeal's fault if there was no unit available during the time of filming.
Agreeeee.
As a previous owner of a 2020 Honda Civic LX Sport, I can say everytime I put it to sport mode there is a bit of a lag. Now as owner of the 2022 Geely Coolray Sport, as far as I can say having owned/ driven both, If I am driving both at a traffic light and the signal drops green, I can assure you my Civic will eat my Coolray's dust if its a battle of Sport mode vs Sport mode.
LX is a non turbo. Not a good comparison
LX is a non turbo. Not a good comparison
True, but what I am pointing out is the response regardless of turbo or non turbo when you put both on a sport mode. Malakas din po ung Honda Civic LX Sport if you put it on sport mode, dont get me wrong. The only problem is before siya hahatak may konting lag muna mga 1.5-2 secs in which it isnt supposed to be that way,dapat walang lag. Now the HRV is being compared to a Civic na parehas ung engine nila. But other than that a Honda is a Honda.
I dont understand...
Ford Territory is not a subcompact crossover SUV
" The Ford Territory is a compact crossover SUV produced by Ford through the JMC-Ford joint venture in China since 2018. " by google
They’re comparing it because of the price 🙄 every car reviewer does this because of the price range of the territory, for me its still a compact crossover suv. Price point is subjective. Its up to the brand how they want it to be priced if it is below the competition thats there advantage already
Then why the hell are they comparing these cars to hrv turbo. Should be with the non turbo if they're basing it in price point. Pretty sure hrv will come off last or third at most if that's what they did
@@johncruz1379 could be some marketing gimmick to boost the HRV sales.
Comparing a car almost a half million peso more expensive than similarly sized chinese CUVs which has eaten a big slice of the pie from japanese brands...
I love Autodeal's videos, but this one is kind of imbalance? MG HS or RX5 should have been the representative for MG as MG ZS-T is only in the same category with Stonic, Tucson, etc.
Also, GCR was in Eco Mode during acceleration test? No wonder why it didn't win.
HRV could've still won overall, but at least it would be in a fair manner.
Still, nice comparo!
There was a race with my friends with Honda and MG. GCR wins from both stop and rolling start. Like actual quarter mile.
What if we replace the Turbo HR-V with a non-turbo? Will the HR-V still be the winner of this comparo? Just wondering.. 🤔 I think the price is the only downside in choosing the HR-V.
The point of this is comparo of Turbo Crossover cars. Then the non-turbo variant of the others, if applicable, will be then chosen as well.
Of course, all the way for Honda HRV-V.
Great comparo between the brands, honda has proven its good quality and reliability for years now.
take two for the Coolray in Sport mode! 😊
Kahit comfort mode lang, pwede na eh 😆😆
The ZST actually has buttons for the AC.
can there be a comparo for the ford ecosport, kia stonic, toyota raize, and hyundai venue? I'd really appreciate that thanks!
I am a Honda HR-V 2018 owner and after almost 5 yr of using my honda, without any issues by the way, I am now switching to Geely Coolray. Main reason is I could not afford the Honda which is now priced above 1.6M. It's too pricy for its size. That is why I'm switching to coolray for the tech and the affordability. I hope it will not dissappoint me.
Geely will not dissapoint you 😎
Can you please comment on the swith if ever po….
It has been several months since this comment is posted. Wondering po if you already made the switch and if you can provide us a feedback how was it? Planning to get GCR hehe
@@karlpatrickdiestro1234 okay po c geely. Medyo malakas lang magconsume ng gas. Pro ung drive, premium feel and tech maganda.
@@czardavid6710 thanks po sa update! Wala naman po kayo naging issue? I'll be getting mine next week na po hehe
Nice comparo. Just hoped GS4 and Tiggo 8 are included.
We appreciate you, Cacs!
Results are expected. The japanese will surely be on top compared to these 3 chinese cars. Yeah, they're cheaper. But look at what you don't get just to save a couple of thousands. You'd be spending over a million anyway, so make the most of your money. Go get the decent one. HRV.
Territory all day
Coolray was on Eco mode only. Sorry, this wasn't a fair power comparo. The power difference between modes are very noticeable especially from Eco to Sport.
I'm glad the japanese brand still won. Was kinda expecting it to be beaten by these overspecd chinese crossover. Glad Honda proved it wrong otherwise. Nice comparo!
Honda doesnt prove anything. Its 400k more expensive than the rest. The non turbo hrv which has the same pricepoint as the the other china brands is garbage in terms of everything price wise.
@@Mabrook2024 out of curiosity id you have 1.6m on-hand right now, what will you buy. out of the four.
@@helloworld9124
I have got the GCR for a year now.
Value for money. If i have 1.60M then, I already saved 500k!
@@Mabrook2024 let's assume you don't have anything at the moment, will you still opt for gcr? Apologies for the weird question, just trying to establish a logical thinking if you were given a chance like this.
@@helloworld9124
My friend, i have had the EK civic in the 90s. Today i would still pick the GCR over the HRV for the savings i get from the 1.60M assuming i have in the bank now.
If i will go all out for 1.60M, i would get a bigger car.
Eco mode in the Coolray is just bad and laggy due to the restraints to conserve gas.
But, if you go Comfort mode in the coolray, it is reactive and zippy as fu.. what more in Sports mode. However, it just really is bad with gas consumption, it's so-so.
Honda just kills the competition with the gas consumption part.
In terms of interior the Honda HR-V could've done better coolray slays it minus the aircon vents at the back.
There's that small bit of injustice given to the coolray though for the top speed section.
But still, Honda's getting better.
Coolray for second place isn't so bad also.
Previous owner of Honda units and currently has a Coolray also btw bago ako ma bash. 🤣
Coolray Fuel economy here in KSA is 17.8/liter.
Hello, pwede po bang magka auto insurance kahit secondhand po nabili ang car? Salamat po sa sagot.
Where’s Changan CS35 plus? Idk if it just doesn’t fit the category size wise but hm
That car is also turbocharged correct me if I’m wrong
Itong Honda brv ko 2017 wla pang major na sira dito. Good engine, aircon super lamig hanggang ngaun.. Ang nagastos ko lng dito isang gulong pa napalitan kasi na flat😅 Peru Kong sabihin mo na makina na trouble wla. Saka 2017 up to 2022 still very good running condition. So literal na maasahan ang Honda😂
Super cool review autodeal! I like what you add in your content of 50-100kph speed test. Can i request for your next review? SUV COMPARO pleaseeee!!!
That’s how good coolray engine is. Compare the normal mode on HR-V to eco mode of coolray.
Honda at Toyota talaga ang dabest. I won't gamble to other brand when it comes to long term use.
Same. When it comes to durability and quality.. You can never go wrong with Honda and Toyota.
I love it when they try to do speed comparison but one is in eco mode instead of sports 😅
Sure, the Honda HRV Turbo is the winner and the only variant that matters. But it's price is so close to a full sized SUV, wouldn't it be more practical to buy those instead?
@AJ RV Not all full sized SUVs are ladder frames.
Good luck finding a brand-new full-sized monocoque SUV at that price. And for some people, full-sized SUVs are more impractical.
our MG for 1 year already, still the best drive.... performs good as new/
Pm me on my facebook page to learn more about the Honda HRV 😊
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One of the best Comparo you did so far...just a suggestion though,try to include a slalom to test handling brake test for safety and a simple decibel test for road noise.if you can incorporate those areas you'll be more awesome.
Great review. You could have add the Changan CS35 plus...
May could have done a 0-100 test on a closed road to at least determine accurately the engine performance.
Very informative sir Caco thank you sir and how I wish to speak English fluently like you do and very clear you’re darn good sir!
GCR should be normal mode. The aircon vent is from the floor vents
They are all goodlooking...but for me HR V no doubt ✌️
I really wonder why most car reviewers don’t include Changan CS35 Plus for reviews and comparos like this. I think CS35+ is a good contender in this segment considering its price as well. Also, this comparo is kinda… 🤔
yes.. price and tech pa lang lamang na ang cs35+ luxe. interior is subjective and the exterior is also quite good. hopefully next time maisama na ang cs35+ luxe
comparo is kinda? I'll wait for for you to make a comparo video of these 4 plus the CS35(once you can afford to get one, or when any Changan dealership lets you borrow one for a review). Show us how to properly make a comparo video.
@@idontalwaysmemebutwhenido748 I don’t need to make one as I’m not a ‘car reviewer’, just a wondering CS35+ owner. :) Lost for words to describe this comparo hence … no need to be condescending. chill. :)
Do one with small compact SUVs hehehe
Toyota Raize vs Hyundai Venue vs Ford Ecosport :3
That would be an interesting comparo! At first glance Hyundai Venue much better on engine power performance. Looking forward to this comparo please.
Why do i feel this was a biased comparo to the side of Honda? I don’t believe it took 7 secs for GCR to reach 100 from 50 (especially when claims from Geely says 0-100 in less that 8, 7 secs from 50 is questionable). I’ve been driving in eco for almost the whole time we’ve had our GCR, and never has it lagged. Power is instantaneous, it goes when u step on the gas, more so when u’r already at 50. Also, relying on Gaco to say go and stop could contribute to some time delays. It would have been better if the timer was seated back and just looked at the gauge.
Also, not sure how in sync the voice was with his video because he kept talking even after the gauge showed 100 and just remembered to say stop
@@raycg80 tough pill to swallow? Its a honda vtec engine what do you expect a chinese engine can compete? Plus with all that power with more fuel efficiency
@@MisterLaughAlot do u actually own a honda or an hrv to be precise? Not sure if u’r in our comments just to bash GCR owners because u’r a Honda fan without actually having one. But before u go ahead an bash us, test drive a GCR first so u’d know what we’re talking about. Also, did u notice that the GCR was in eco mode? That’s the weakest of three modes
@@MisterLaughAlot btw, i came from a CRV prior to having our GCR, which means my comment has a basis. I wonder what ur basis is from…
@@raycg80 I own a 2000 honda civic and 2015 accord. I have rode my brother-in law's geely coolray it was fast for a crossover but nothing special liked the interior but skeptical of the quality. My problem is that all you geely fanboys make a big fuss about the speed test "geely was on eco mode" if it made a difference the honda would still win because of the fuel efficiency. Hrv lead by a 5 point margin. You can deduct 1 point for your eco mode speed test.