I have immense respect for how you manage coaching. You’re willing to be coached in macro play while holding the title “king of macro” When you receive advice or coaching you simply reply with, “ok” or something acknowledging the coaching rather than just saying, “I already know that.” I really appreciate and respect that attitude. Keep it up NEACE, best free league content out there
Well super high elo has evolved somewhat since he had time to consistently play to get there, he uses these to stay up to date to be able to coach his clients better. That’s why 90% of his criticism is unfounded.
@@michaelbeard4883 no hate but I dont really understand this part tho. Like once you reach diamond tier, you only need to play like 4 games a month to dodge decay and stay in diamond. Master, you play maybe 7 games a week. It isnt hard and time consuming. the only barrier to maintaining a master+ account is the skill to climb into it. even then you can easily just maintain a D1 account and ur basically playing masters+
@@automaticcaptions well if you only play 7 games a week you might get rusty. The meta shifts and you don't adapt because you're not playing. Then if you start losing those 7 games a week suddenly you aren't master/diamond anymore.
The thing he said about leveling Q in flight and getting full damage works on basically every character and ability but there is one small catch, the cooldown of the weaker version is used.
@@mr.pickle6487 Yes it does and that is the point, just wanted to mention that there is a downside. It's still worth doing since mana is important but still
@@mr.pickle6487 Yeah but with ahri ur Q mana cost is the biggest weakness which is why he mentioned it in the video. The cooldown increasing is a big deal for Ults
Man, it almost feels like I've been coached, that was a master class of how to rotate between waves, positioning in a hard matchup, I've learned a lot, thanks you two for the incredible vid.
Just started League a month ago, and beforehand knew no one in the community. And through the past month the first two streamer/youtubers I've been following and watched the most have been Neace and LegitKorea, and funny enough I now see they making a collab stream/video.
The "I get coached" video here got me to subscribe! I think it's really interesting and I love seeing different champions and diffferent pools of knowledge.
More of this style of content would be great. Champion Mindsets. I loved the Singed Summoner talk or whatever it was called. That paired with coaching from the players themselves is just awesome.
@@ottoharing7161 season 11 rank 1 is a jungler yes, talon khazix darius jungle player, and at the moment he is like rank 10 challenger on his smurf account which had master mmr at start of season
I love hearing people with crazy high skills on a single champ talk about the high level of how that champ works. It’s great to know that every single champ in this game can be complicated.
It's like when your therapist gets therapy, or when your dog trainer has their own dog trainer too. So refreshing to see such a humble attitude and student mindset. Massive green flag! Big love. Congrats on Challenger Legit :)
I really like neace's content, but god he's fun to watch when he's getting coach. He stresses the players so much when he is coaching: "Look top... look bot... I WANNA SEE!". Then when he gets coached he forgets to check the other lanes. xD
@@AnAverageBoss thats an odd excuse, part of ahri and most midlaners is to shove and roam. Ontop of that getting info is legit a must, especially as a midlaner. Even if he doesnt play a burger flip assasin like katarina, cant hurt to know and base decisions off the information acquired
7:24 Notice how when Neace didn't q the entire wave when LegitKorea asked him to LegitKorea didn't say "q the ENTIRE fucking wave, what the fuck are you doing?! why am I even coaching you if you don't listen"
Interesting explanation. I've really struggled to play ahri and I think its because i get it in my head that I'm an assassin and need to get early kills. Whereas this explanation makes it seem like I'd be better off playing her more like my malzahar. Playing around the team instead of individual 1v1 picks.
Would like to see Pants are Dragon coach you. You talk a lot about sticking to one champion while Pants was a meta slave when he was tryharding. I think this would make for some interesting content.
You probably know the military term - train the trainer, it is perfect to expand your champion knowledge like this, although in stomps like this you don't face hard situations.
combo @6:36 was flash e, which is wrong. it is faster if you go for e flash. and you have to aim the e at the point in whose direction you want the charm to go in after the flash.
i like how the first thing he say about manaflow band is wrong. it's one of the changes they made about mana during pre season 11, among other things, manaflow band increase your max mana, but don't actually give mana back.
Really love your content. I'm having a hard time finding a champion I can main, but I will like to give Jax a shot. I only have one question, where do you (Neace) find your builds for your customer?
anyone else notice at the start of the video when they mention the charm flash at 3:34 and Neace does it in the exact same spot it was mentioned at 17:02 ???? 😂😂
4 months late BUT IN 10:15 NEACE ALMOST LEVELED WITH THE MOUSE!!! Its something I see High Elo/Challengers/Pro Players do at times, they just hold leveling up their abilities and at random times level up with the mouse
Not gunna lie, I play like 1-2 games a week if I have time. But watching your videos here and there makes me feel like I've gotten better when I do play
I kind of want to know, would you do the same for roaming top side instead of bot? And if so, what would be the things to look out for to do so? The enemy junglers pathing vs your own junglers pathing?
im just starting out with league and it seems very complicated with all the items and runes, knowing what to use against who its kind of overwhelming and makes me not want to play even tho i really do want to at the same time
6:34 you didn't get the kill because you didn't animation cancel the E with flash like you did at 17:00. I'm a little surprised it wasn't mentioned in the video that you can animation cancel E with flash for those watching. Good video.
He did, there are just different ways you can E+ Flash. There's a fast E + Flash and a bit more delayed E+flash. He also did it in the beginning of the video and he also did learn it at the beginning of the stream, just not featured in the video.
@@slimmyTM Good to know it was in the livestream. Probably should have made the video cut. Going to disagree though, but its pointless to argue. My intuition said that the E was slow coming out, watching on .25 seems to confirm that for me (noting exactly when the charm channel starts). I think he just rushed the button presses. The only reason I'm stating this is I think neace's reasoning to hold E after flash isn't the only option there. Though flash - hold E is certainly valid, I have seen plenty of players just wiggle themselves into a worse spot because they are trying to anticipate the E. I am pretty confident if he executed that correctly the E would have landed. As you note there are varied timings for it, but you should execute the one that is hardest for the other player to react to.
Is it the spectate view that is like this ? because when i'm in a game, if I try to max zoom out from my champion, i'm still waayy closer and don't see much of the surroundings compared to what we see during this gameplay
![The #1 Ahri One Trick gives me a run down of EVERYTHING I need to dethrone him [Coach Gets Coached]](/img/n.gif)
Thanks for featuring me! I had a blast during the session :)
You're amazing!
Aye its Benito from back in the day, just happened to be on a Neace bing lately, congrats on the come up dude!
Love this collabs
nice video I will watch it again and again
@@ReaperOfDragons you zed xio
I have immense respect for how you manage coaching. You’re willing to be coached in macro play while holding the title “king of macro”
When you receive advice or coaching you simply reply with, “ok” or something acknowledging the coaching rather than just saying, “I already know that.” I really appreciate and respect that attitude. Keep it up NEACE, best free league content out there
Well super high elo has evolved somewhat since he had time to consistently play to get there, he uses these to stay up to date to be able to coach his clients better. That’s why 90% of his criticism is unfounded.
A true master is forever a student
@@accain1314 "A true master is an eternal student" - Master Yi
@@michaelbeard4883 no hate but I dont really understand this part tho. Like once you reach diamond tier, you only need to play like 4 games a month to dodge decay and stay in diamond. Master, you play maybe 7 games a week. It isnt hard and time consuming. the only barrier to maintaining a master+ account is the skill to climb into it. even then you can easily just maintain a D1 account and ur basically playing masters+
@@automaticcaptions well if you only play 7 games a week you might get rusty. The meta shifts and you don't adapt because you're not playing. Then if you start losing those 7 games a week suddenly you aren't master/diamond anymore.
As an Ahri main, so happy to see you bringing on LegitKorea! I learned a lot about Ahri's play styles from this myself! Thanks!
Not only ahri but mid mechanics overal
We love a coach that's always being coached. Consistently gaining knowledge and sharing it with others. Goated. NEACE is a man for the people
Yeah except he's getting coached while smurfing in gold elo, which he'll probably stomp regardless, so we don't get to learn as many of the nuances.
@@EvanNagao Gold II preliminary after winning just one game of placements. Realistically it's more of a P1-P2 account.
@@TheOzumat I looked up the game, most are gold 1 or 2.
The thing he said about leveling Q in flight and getting full damage works on basically every character and ability but there is one small catch, the cooldown of the weaker version is used.
It uses the lower mana cost though which is what I think the point is.
@@mr.pickle6487 Yes it does and that is the point, just wanted to mention that there is a downside. It's still worth doing since mana is important but still
@@mr.pickle6487 Yeah but with ahri ur Q mana cost is the biggest weakness which is why he mentioned it in the video. The cooldown increasing is a big deal for Ults
Dream come true for Ahri mains. Ready to learn from this video.
I love watching you get coached. I feel like I learn a ton on videos like this. Thanks Neace & LegitKorea!
I really liked the opening strategic talk. Really informative about summoner spells choices.
Man, it almost feels like I've been coached, that was a master class of how to rotate between waves, positioning in a hard matchup, I've learned a lot, thanks you two for the incredible vid.
Just started League a month ago, and beforehand knew no one in the community. And through the past month the first two streamer/youtubers I've been following and watched the most have been Neace and LegitKorea, and funny enough I now see they making a collab stream/video.
Good taste 👌🏼
The "I get coached" video here got me to subscribe! I think it's really interesting and I love seeing different champions and diffferent pools of knowledge.
Legit is a nice guy, also good at Valorant and Osu
These vids of you getting coached are definitely my favorite content of yours to watch lately. They've been awesome.
More of this style of content would be great. Champion Mindsets. I loved the Singed Summoner talk or whatever it was called. That paired with coaching from the players themselves is just awesome.
NEACE could you also ask rank 1 EUW to coach you ? That could be interesting :)
Maybe Ask NoWay4You, He is a very nice guy, Midlaner and recently hit rank 1 on EUWest. He also made several NA Projects.
@@donaldgromp960 isnt he a jungler? or am i mixing things up here, he is the german dude right?
@@ottoharing7161 That's Agurin
@@ottoharing7161 noway4you is german and plays mid primary then jngl or top
@@ottoharing7161 season 11 rank 1 is a jungler yes, talon khazix darius jungle player, and at the moment he is like rank 10 challenger on his smurf account which had master mmr at start of season
I like how Neace just casually flexes and then says "I did it for you."
I appreciate the plays, man.
I love hearing people with crazy high skills on a single champ talk about the high level of how that champ works. It’s great to know that every single champ in this game can be complicated.
all of the videos where you get coached is the best content you have uploaded in a good while.
Chill, constructive, relaxed and immensely informative.
I like how by simple Ahri is, most of what LK said is stuff that I can apply to any of my champions as well, really nice coaching there!
It's like when your therapist gets therapy, or when your dog trainer has their own dog trainer too. So refreshing to see such a humble attitude and student mindset. Massive green flag! Big love. Congrats on Challenger Legit :)
this was really informative
I really like neace's content, but god he's fun to watch when he's getting coach. He stresses the players so much when he is coaching: "Look top... look bot... I WANNA SEE!". Then when he gets coached he forgets to check the other lanes. xD
Its cuz he isnt tryharding for the win in Plat hes trying to learn Ahri I think.
@@AnAverageBoss thats an odd excuse, part of ahri and most midlaners is to shove and roam. Ontop of that getting info is legit a must, especially as a midlaner. Even if he doesnt play a burger flip assasin like katarina, cant hurt to know and base decisions off the information acquired
The moment I saw ahri's face, I already knew it was LegitKorea
Thanks for the master class as always. Love the TC piloting you gameplays!
Nice beard neace, good video too, stay NEACE!
This was amazing content. Great discussion about the game and I love Neace asking why decisions were made. LegitKorea is appropriately named :D
This was super helpful for tech and theory. Thanks to both coaches for this!
What getting coached session would you say has had the most impact on your own coaching and why?
I would love to see you get coached by manco!!! I love playing teemo and would like to learn more! Have a nice day and more power!
Watching you get coached is incredibly informative!
7:24 Notice how when Neace didn't q the entire wave when LegitKorea asked him to LegitKorea didn't say "q the ENTIRE fucking wave, what the fuck are you doing?! why am I even coaching you if you don't listen"
This was great, can you do TF next?
yea this is a dope idea man ! Well done - crazy how you can keep up with this guy :P
Interesting explanation. I've really struggled to play ahri and I think its because i get it in my head that I'm an assassin and need to get early kills. Whereas this explanation makes it seem like I'd be better off playing her more like my malzahar. Playing around the team instead of individual 1v1 picks.
So good that Neece also takes Sessions!
This was maybe the best explained ahri guide I've ever seen. Very helpful.
This actually helped me a lot y’all the best
ayy neace im digging the beard keep pumping out the content 😎
Would like to see Pants are Dragon coach you. You talk a lot about sticking to one champion while Pants was a meta slave when he was tryharding. I think this would make for some interesting content.
god damn, neace. I respect your humility. also nice vid overall!
really good info and personality from legitkorea
Will Dafoe has the spider sense
I got much better by watching your videos! Thank you and great job
A while ago LS was saying Ahri is bad for learning the game because she can push and roam. Been playing her ever since. Thanks for the insights
Dude you should collab with Minishcap and get some Singed coaching
This neace gets coached content is the best.
I spoke to LK once and played intermediate bots with him! Very nice guy honestly!
Sometimes I watch other league coaches on YT for 5 minutes to maximize the enjoyment of coming back to binging neace videos.
god i love ahri content. been playing her for 10 years.
You probably know the military term - train the trainer, it is perfect to expand your champion knowledge like this, although in stomps like this you don't face hard situations.
combo @6:36 was flash e, which is wrong. it is faster if you go for e flash. and you have to aim the e at the point in whose direction you want the charm to go in after the flash.
Always found it hard to last hit with Ahri... thanks for the vid !
i like how the first thing he say about manaflow band is wrong. it's one of the changes they made about mana during pre season 11, among other things, manaflow band increase your max mana, but don't actually give mana back.
Really love your content. I'm having a hard time finding a champion I can main, but I will like to give Jax a shot. I only have one question, where do you (Neace) find your builds for your customer?
Nice fastforward at 13:50 wow. CONTENT.
Whoever chose the music for this. Thank you
I think the old thumbnail and title mentioning Ahri is much better than changing it to be vague
This is very beneficial, thank you so much both of you :)
So much explanation! I love it :-)
It’s nice to see someone who’s willing to be coached
I'm always happy when Neace actually gets a chance to play the game. :D
6:36 INHUMAN REACTION
What is the passive trick? Why do you max E second?
Awesome you can take coaching as well as give.
Neace in previus videos "Excuse me did u just level up by clicking?"
Also Neace when reaching lvl 7 XD
Much love i rly love what are u doing
Just gotta say, I totally concur with Neace that I would let Manco whisper weirdness into my ear anytime as well!
Wow that flash e was really cool at the beginning. Thats what a wood elo player would say.
name of the background music in intro?
yo!! Neace Beard. I can picture that looking rather nice grown out if you plan on it
I'm so here for the Neace beard journey 😍
So basically Ahri charm's her own team by charming the enemy then her team can't resist. XD
2:00 iPhone notif I HAVE ALREADY DEVELOPED PTSD
"A master is an eternal student"
anyone else notice at the start of the video when they mention the charm flash at 3:34 and Neace does it in the exact same spot it was mentioned at 17:02 ???? 😂😂
Just a question here; Ahri maxes E second? I always max W second for the pure burst, thoughts?
4 months late BUT IN 10:15 NEACE ALMOST LEVELED WITH THE MOUSE!!! Its something I see High Elo/Challengers/Pro Players do at times, they just hold leveling up their abilities and at random times level up with the mouse
Need one of these for every lane!!!
Not gunna lie, I play like 1-2 games a week if I have time. But watching your videos here and there makes me feel like I've gotten better when I do play
As an Ahri main I've been waiting for this collab xD
Awesome video!
Bruh wtf. I didnt even know W was a minion execute before the rework, soley because of the fact that it stayed level 1 until level 13
Any recommendations for Thresh support challengers/pros streams?
is there any chance for a Irelia otp?
I finished the season with a plat 3 MMR and my first game landed me in like, silver 1. This is a good chunk above plat
I kind of want to know, would you do the same for roaming top side instead of bot? And if so, what would be the things to look out for to do so? The enemy junglers pathing vs your own junglers pathing?
Neace, ive asked you this before, but can you give us your playlist for your streams and videos.
See this is why he is the King Of Macro. He is still willing to learn over that title and that's how he got there to begin with.
Neace here coaching everyone on how to be coached.
im just starting out with league and it seems very complicated with all the items and runes, knowing what to use against who its kind of overwhelming and makes me not want to play even tho i really do want to at the same time
beard like that looks good man keep it
YESSSS Finally Ahri gameplay, you havent release Ahri gameplay in about 5 to 4 years.
This was such a good video.
It feels validating to hear jungle diff is mid diff. I've felt that way forever and it's nice to see the top of the ladder also agrees
6:34 you didn't get the kill because you didn't animation cancel the E with flash like you did at 17:00. I'm a little surprised it wasn't mentioned in the video that you can animation cancel E with flash for those watching. Good video.
He did, there are just different ways you can E+ Flash. There's a fast E + Flash and a bit more delayed E+flash. He also did it in the beginning of the video and he also did learn it at the beginning of the stream, just not featured in the video.
@@slimmyTM Good to know it was in the livestream. Probably should have made the video cut. Going to disagree though, but its pointless to argue. My intuition said that the E was slow coming out, watching on .25 seems to confirm that for me (noting exactly when the charm channel starts). I think he just rushed the button presses. The only reason I'm stating this is I think neace's reasoning to hold E after flash isn't the only option there. Though flash - hold E is certainly valid, I have seen plenty of players just wiggle themselves into a worse spot because they are trying to anticipate the E. I am pretty confident if he executed that correctly the E would have landed. As you note there are varied timings for it, but you should execute the one that is hardest for the other player to react to.
As a talon main, seeing that talon clap everyone’s cheeks made me so happy
A true master is an eternal student
More Neace gameplay vids pls
Have you subbed to Chill Neace? X
@@IllustrateLawYT i'll Check it Out thx :)
Is it the spectate view that is like this ? because when i'm in a game, if I try to max zoom out from my champion, i'm still waayy closer and don't see much of the surroundings compared to what we see during this gameplay
Awesome, nice to know I'm going up against Neace in gold II. Seems fair.
Why the coach is best Ahri based off what he said. “If you don’t take risks you can’t grow” True statement not just for league but for life! Miyagi’d
LegitKorea seems like a great dude.