KSP Console: So MUCH Harder Than I Thought...
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
- I struggle to get to grips with the awkward controls, glitches and terrible performance of the KSP ""Enhanced"" Edition for PS4 Pro. I am so sorry everyone.
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This video is intended for audiences 13+ years old.
Please bear with me, I am not used to controllers, especially when I have a giant plastic splint over my right hand :(
Would it be better to use the stick rather than the touchpad or is that not possible?
As somebody who has over 800 hours in Console version (and many more on PC) its really tricky, and painful.
NO Problem Matt love the vids
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Hey Matt it is possible to use a keyboard and mouse if that's easier for you. But if you want to keep the feel on the console you can keep using the controller
“Don’t tell Scott” I love this please don’t stop love commentary.
"love commentary" ahem lmao
Ah good old love commentary
you mean live on a keyboard there next to eachother
Here's some advice, - Please be warned, this is an essay
The general rule of thumb for fine adjustments and stuff is holding L1 while using whatever you want to do, this also works with the cursor if you don't want it flying all over the place, it's very useful when trying to do science during flight.
The staging with parachutes does work, however you cannot stage while the cursor is active, this is why you couldn't deploy them, so just get rid of the cursor for a second and then it works like a normal stage.
Rotating parts in the VAB is always a pain on console, however as you discovered, using L1 rotates it on the other axis which is why it was so difficult to get it to go the right way.
The glitch with the VAB having a different look is unfortunately common on consoles, normally its easily fixed by just returning to the start up menu and then going straight back into the science save, however if that doesn't work then restart the game.
During short flights where you need to use science, I would recommend getting the pop up menu of the science module then pressing the pin in the top right of the menu, then hold and drag the orange bar to move it. I normally get all the science things up before flight because pinning them allows you to get out as many as can fit on the screen at the same time and you don't need to worry about quickly finding and trying to press on the smaller ones, especially useful during re-entry when you can't even see it.
I don't know if you figured this out or not, but to delete parts in the VAB just drag it back over to the part selection and click on the empty space and it deletes.
The part where you couldn't switch from the SPH to the VAB was happening (at least I think this is the reason) because you were holding a part with the cursor at the time, so just put the part back and you can switch.
You were using time warp the difficult way, I'd recommend not using the 'weapon wheel' to activate it. You just need to hover the cursor over the top left and it automatically pops down and you can press on the speed you want with the cursor, it's a lot simpler and a lot less buggy.
I do not know why you were having problems getting the kerbal back into the module, but I'd just make sure that your cursor isn't active and just wiggle him up and down the ladder a bit and that might work.
The low FPS while in space is extremely unusual (at least to me it is). I play it on a series X now so mine rarely has any FPS drops, but for the 3 years I was playing on just the standard Xbox One, I still never had anything like you had, my only guess is that this was happening because you had recording software up at the same time, although that's only a guess and I have no clue why it was so utterly rubbish.
You weren't completely right in saying the console edition controls and features are rubbish. Almost every feature on PC is on console, at least that I know of, many many features are used by pressing more than one button at a time rather then just the single one (such as using L1 and right stick to have to zoom in). I've followed PC tutorials this whole time and it almost always works exactly as it should on console, the only difficult thing is finding the right button combinations to do it.
Here's just a few more tips, sorry about how bloody long this comment is to anyone reading
You can duplicate parts in the VAB by holding down square then tapping X on a part or section to duplicate (this doesn't work on the main root part which is normally the command module).
To use roll, use L2 and R2, you may have figured this out already but for me it took about a year.
I don't play on PS4 so I this advice may be stupid, if so then just ignore this bit. But using the track pad for the cursor just seems a bit too much to me, using the left stick seems a lot quicker, and at the same time make sure to use L1 at the same time to make the cursor move slower, this makes it wayyyy easier, this also works while in flight.
That should be it for my advice, and holy cow I just looked and I've written an essay.
Even if Matt hasn't seen this, I hope I've helped someone who is also experiencing large amounts of pain from trying to get their head around this game.
Feel free to ask any questions, it's sad how much I play this game, but I am by no means a pro so no promises that I'll know the answer to anything.
Again, I am extremely sorry for how long this is, and this is 30 minutes of my life I will never get back :(
Played 2 years on base ps4, also never had any of these issues. On ps5 now the game feels almost new. Thanks for reminding me how to duplicate, I was struggling with that
I hope Matt reads this. then its 30 minutes well spent.
I thought I was the only person that plays on series x but I'm not alone
@@socthebean that's an essay
Just as note, if you are on mobile then most keyboard support voice typing so you can use that to write long paragraphs
"Jeb'll-die-a"
that's called foreshadowing, kids
So funny. The learning curve on this game for me was so hard, and to see an experienced pc player struggle was kinda heartening :) I actually think they have done a fantastic job on the controls, porting to console from a game designed for PC is a challenge in itself, let alone something this complex. Any of you fellow PS4 players had issues with controls in space? Occasionally I get an odd bug where trying to change attitude goes weird, i.e everything turns to the right. Anyone had this?
@@_RandomPeaye i had this issue when my rocket suddenly started spinning out of control
@@LePunchEZ I know the fix now. Need to turn off the trim settings. It's really easy to accidentally set the trim with the bumper buttons by mistake
@@LePunchEZ although the game crashes almost every time you get far enough to build bigger rockets so ive not played in a year
The hint of panic I Matt's voice when he couldn't initially find the quicksave function nearly killed me.
This is so painful. My condolences to all KSP console players out there and their beloved ones.
It’s honestly not that bad when you know what your doing and I’ve never seen those glitches and frame drops on Xbox
Thank you. Much appreciated.
Ive also never seen bugs and shit like that on a ps4 pro
Yeah, I play consle a bit slow but other than that it's good. He just played a lot of PC so hes used to that.
Making any type of plane on console is impossible
This video is just PAIN. Tomato Farmers represent
Apple Farmers are here too
Karma farmers too
Tomato Farmers Represent
Potato's to!
The people who are replying with ____ farmers didn't watch til the end lol.
Dude, do not stress your broken arm. Bones can grow together in a wrong way and doctor will have to brake it again.
I had that happen, and it's much worse the second time
😳
Hes a doctor though, he should already know this?
"Ribs grow back"
Medic-TF2
@@2157AF Pretty sure the eyeball doesn't have bones
After 7 years I have finally found something I am slightly better at than Matt. I can now with full confidence say *Take that, noob*
Ahahahah
HES NOT A NOOB!!!!!
HES NOT A NOOB!!!!!
HES NOT A NOOB!!!!!
@@juanportillo8304 shh
"so much harder than I thought", and I thought I was just bad at ksp
Matt can do better than me in one hour on console than I have done in 2 years on console.
Me too
BAD!!! YOU'RE BAD!!!
Im the 69th like
*us with a broken arm
He does have a lot of experience though
Welcome to our pain, I learnt how to play Enhanced through your tutorials
I’ve never touched a gaming pc, I feel your pain. I know your pain.
tbh i really love the controls on the ps4 ksp edition
I have no pain bc I play the game on ps4 i like it better
@@SkyHigh_xx same, only real downside is no mouse. There are the same amount of buttons to press so neither are more complicated, they're both just really hard to learn in their own ways
Luckily I have x box edition and pc version
“It’s really not that difficult”
*fourteen minutes into the video*
I just love the annoyed and slightly aggressive Matt Lowne live commentary so much! Haven't laugh that much in a while, thank u so much!
I recently found you after atempting playing ksp after a 8ish year hiatus. back then all I did was make planes, so space was new to me, and with the help of matt lowne I have landed on the mun! I have attemped landing on layth and eve but have burnt up in the atmospheres (duna was easy). I will not give up! Whatever content you put out, I will watch
Its like giving your little cousin to play the game for the first time
This was seriously painful, but I stuck with it in the spirit of solidarity.
Press L3 in (left thumbstick) to use cursor instead of track pad!!!
idk if it's just my controller but the trackpad is a pain to use, I didn't even know you could sue it till recently, I just stuck with the normal cursor
The fact he did this whole video with the trackpad actually hurt my soul 😭
@@DJ22292 same, hopefully he sees this so he can end the suffering ...
Plus you need to press L3 to do anything with your ship while its flying. That's why he had such a hard time getting Jeb back into the command module
As a console player myself, this is by far the best Kerbal video you have ever made! I was laughing out loud with tears in my eyes at one point. Hilarious!! I play on just a normal ps4 and mine runs waaaay smoother than this! And yes I was shouting at the screen saying “use the DPad” and also R1 and up and down to raise and lower camera in the VAB. Thoroughly enjoyed that video, well done! Tomato Farmers Represent!
So happy with the chocolates you sent. Thanks, Matt!
Just in time for Easter
This reminded me a bit of my dad when he tried to play on a Playstation for the first time of his life. This is the first time i'm missing a facecam in your videos. Tomato Farmers represent.
At last the great suffering has arrived, this shall be a fine addition to my torture collection. Enjoy yourself Matt the cast around your arm will not affect any gameplay trust me
What helps me on console is actions groups and the science container. Have an action group for your expiriments and also have one for the container to "collect All" and you can then redo your expiriments without an EVA. And you just need to "restore" the goo and jr.
Btw you can put the container om top of the capsule and it dosent do much.
And when you are doing action groups mid-fligth your game Play goes in slowmotion.
Hope i could help :)
My god... I’ve been waiting for this for so long!!! I’ve been playing on console for so long it’s very annoying at times
Now Matt Lowne knows what I have to deal with when I play KSP
Yep
Yea same
Haha same. Build mode is the worst as well.
@Unsesquipedalian that’s nice of you
@SuperEarth101 i’ve actually become used to it now
Matt: "Okay Google"
*My Google Nest Screaming*: I'm sorry I don't know that!
Mine did the same haha
Imagine if his girlfriend was called Alexa
Tomato Farmers REPRESENT.
Hello fellow SFS player
These moon textures got me so deep-
What you don't Deal with it?
@@OH-STUNNER no, on pc you have way betters textures options
It's cos they take a year to update the console version so it doesn't have the better textures
I see it all the time...
Not only that, the load times as well.. how bad are consoles nowadays?
Why would anyone pay more for games, pay for the "privilege" to play online and pay for a useless console where you cannot use mods or even use better gfx.. instead of using a freaking PC!? :D
An hour of Matt being confused and suffering
I do actually have to thank you Matt, I play on console and the only reason I have ever done interplanetary missions was because of your tutorials. I just did my first Gilly mission yesterday and am now thinking about Ike!
Did you ever get to ike?
Yes!!! I've only ever played on console and you FINALLY feel our pain!!!!!!!! Loading times, using the joysticks, lag, Kraken attacks, and so much more! PS: you can timewarp in cursor mode by moving the cursor to the top left and clicking different warp speeds. Also I find it easier to fly in non-cursor mode, and choose SAS directions etc. via the popup menus. The reason your staging and other flight controls weren't working was because you were in cursor mode, you have to disable the cursor in order to use flight controls (throttle, attitude, staging, etc.). And you can trash stuff in the VAB by selecting it with the cursor and placing it in the parts menu on the left side. TOMATO FARMERS REPRESENT
What does Tomato Farmers mean? Lol i see it all over the comments and i dont know it as a console player as well
(Also seeing a PC player struggling with what i do on console is SO satisfying :P)
@@blakehorner2949 Secret code, I'm afraid I can't tell you what it means :/. And yes very satisfying to finally see PC players understanding our struggle.
Those Kerbin and Mun textures make me feel nostalgic
Im tired of them lo rez textures
I've wanted this for ages. I can only play on console, and the struggle is real. It is so hard to play.
Personally, I really like the live commentary. I like seeing the process of you learning what we have to deal with. Please keep doing this.
One more tip. It’s a lot easier to select the right thing if you zoom in much further than you’re doing in this video. If Jeb’s helmet is filling half the screen, there’s no difficulty in clicking on it.
This was amazing. I did this in reverse starting with console then going to PC. It was much easier to going to PC. One thing you need to remember is to turn off the mouse feature whenever not using it. It can prevent you from your pitch/yaw/roll controls, staging, and the boarding for Kerbals. Also, clicking on the item area while having a vehicle section selected will delete it.
Finally ksp can you please take this as proof that you need to improve enhanced edition
The version before enhanced edition was even worse
@@Joopyter724 yeah the version before this just straight up deleted saves regularly.
@@hithere5553 did it? I had it on an OG fat Xbox One and I didn’t have any issues with saves getting deleted. The controls *sucked* though
Xbox version is alot better
@@scorelessvermin2997 they are the same game lmao
Maneuvering is a bit difficult on console, but you eventually get used to things.
true
Took me forever to get used to the console controls, but you are right it’s just practice
very true
It literally took me a month to learn the controls enough to do a mun mission.
@@jacobt8288 it took me a year to get to laythe on console
20 minutes in.... Matt... the right stick is your friend.
27 minutes... FINALLY!!
I am glad to have stumbled upon this video. I started playing KSP on PS4 in June of 2019, and I pretty much learned the ropes by watching your tutorials for the PC version.
I literally felt every bit of your frustration in this video, because that was once me. I played it for a few months, lost my career save due to file corruption, and didn't touch it for maybe a year. When I came back, and found my bearings, I made a massive expedition to build a space station around Jool (inspired by your own videos), but ultimately suffered the same file corruption and quit a second time.
Recently, I picked it up again, and after cleaning up some loose ends in the Jool system, and returning home from Eeloo, I only had one thing left to tackle ... land, and return from Moho. That was a lot harder than I thought, despite you making it look so easy, but I am finally (at long last) in possession of the platinum trophy for this game.
As frustrating as this game is on console, it's simultaneously been some of the most rewarding gaming of my life, and I have been gaming for 45 years. While I don't necessarily take joy in you struggling through this (ok maybe I did a bit), I am satisfied that you at least now understand our plight.
There ate so many quotes from you here that I could count them up but they are so little apart that I won't even bother
These kinds of videos where you just ramble on while you play the game, like your theme park build, are really nice to listen to.
If you can deal with it, I would like you to continue this series.
Yo Matt, we need a video of you building a colony with Starships or Original crafts from you
Building colony's with starships has been done so often matt is original
@@ccm2059 Yep and it isn't that big of a challenge (you need to pack the modules into starship
@N. Warner no I've been here for months
Pilot is making videos on that.
@@cranjusmcbasketball2052 you mean 4 hour long livestreams?
I like the live commentary for this, it's quite amusing to listen to you struggle and be confused!
This is somehow one of my favorite of your vids. It’s not that I enjoy your struggles, it’s your response to it. I spat my coffee out when it loaded your vehicle at a random 40degree angle. Welcome to console KSP. I’ve been on a mission to Laythe for like a month. The game keeps glitching and deleting my encounters entirely.
do not forget about trim. I can't tell you how many planes I lost when they only pitched in one direction and I didn't know why.
Took me a freaking year to figure out what trim was, much less why my spaceships would start spinning out for no apparent reason haha
Live commentary was definitely the right idea for this video! Love it!
I am expecting your box of chocolate and apology letter. :D
EDIT: Tomato farmers represent
Matt : "I don't think I can get anything into orbit"
75 mins of playing KSP on the PS4 Matt's PS4 controller is seen entering a low earth orbit....
Pain, suffering, and anger all in a Matt Lowne video
I did not think I would see the day
Tomato farmers represent
I love the live commentary style. Can really feel the struggles in your voice lol.
Tomato farmers represent: Painful and horrible for you, but your struggle with the rotation controls had me laughing with tears streaming down my face. Thank you. Landing should be it's own adventure. Didn't expect to gain a whole other level of respect for you today. Hope you heal well, and quickly.
Console edition isn’t nearly as bad as it may sound listening to this video. Once you learn the controls it’s much easier. The game is very good considering it wasn’t made for Xbox originally.
100%
@Proxima Centauri half of that is down to the inherit difficulty of KSP and half to do with the attention span of the typical console gamer. Given that games like Call of Duty are incredibly prevalent on consoles, and more complex games seldom do well it doesn't take a genius to see the reason those statistics are so skewed.
Hold L1 for better control. Also, you could not stage because you were in the Cursor mode. Hold L1 and Throttle to slight throttle.
Yes
8 months ago I got this game and learnt how to play it from your tutorials, I’ve now got platinum on the game and having fun watching you try and figure out console mode
To be honest with you, seeing someone who is so knowledgeable and quite skilled at the game bumble around like this is honestly really quite entertaining, Im glad you chose to do this! You don't need to apologize for learning something new, I appreciate that you broke your hand and you're still bringing out content.
This reminded me of the time i broke my arm 2 months before my final piano exam. It was real fun
That must suck
Oh yes an hour long Matt video.
Matt: I don't want this to be terrible
Me: This is amusing the shit out of me to see the struggle. More!
As a Console KSP player myself, I have to say, this is the best video on this channel
Matt to activate staging on console you need to press the right stick to remove the cursor, then press A or X depending on what console your on. In your case X. Having the cursor on screen is useful for precision buttons but it acts as essentially a "tabbed out" version of the game. This is why certain controls dont work when the cursor is active.
0:28 I bet matt regrets this statement
We need more live commentaries!
Pog it's here
How did you comment 10 hours before the video was posted?
patreon pog
@@braxtonfox6705 patreon
Ahh makes sense
As someone who plays ksp on console I can truly appreciate his struggle this shit is rough
Wait how do you get back in the space craft
Live commentary is the best. No matter the video. This is the only time I've watched one of your videos and been able to scream at it because I know what you are doing wrong. Really enjoying all the videos and the help.
I love watching an experienced kerbal pro struggling on his first flight.
Funny seeing him realllly struggle to build that first flight😂vab controls are horrible on console
You delete by dragging something into the part selection menu and clicking on another part while you are moving the part you want to delete. This is also a feature on pc
How does anyone else delete something (pc player here)
@@Mason-ws1iv you can click on it then press backspace
Try doing the basic tutorials, they will help massively with the controls. They did when I was learning how to do it!
Bro, don't worry too much. We know you're dealing with a bum hand. Frankly I'm just excited that you're still uploading despite everything.
This was so painful we could taste the frustration.
Big kudos for tackling this, Matt. It was fun in spite of the awfulness
Bruh I can't sleep so I'll watch some videos. PS: it's 1 :47 rn
It’s 4:47 rn here
It's 9:53
It's 10:56
Well I guess we all have different times
Go to bed.
I've never enjoyed a video so much, welcome to our world.
Speak for yourself 😂 I find KSP on the Xbox One pretty intuitive. 👍
@@GSF404 So do I, it's just funny watching PC players have to play with a controller
Well let's face it, Matt is going the long way around with everything here. 😂
I assumed Playstation and Xbox versions were the same but dang, half the glitches he has have NEVER happened to me in 2 years of playing it on Xbox
@@blakehorner2949 same pretty much, it's very very rarely crashed, or glitched and I only get frame rate dips when I go above about ~150 parts perhaps. His game just looks like its chugging along.
I have over 300 hours on ksp console. You get used to it.
I have played the game for 2 years
This is actually fun and funny to watch, same troubles I almost went thru transitioning from PC to console, but now on console, I'm running a starship project, been on console for roughly 5yrs now
The first flight makes me feel so much better about my own failures on KSP PS4. Waiting to see you try and do a docking manuver, I still haven’t managed that.
As a Console KSP player, I’m gonna have fun watching this.
HAHAHA! feel our pain, us, console players!
Tomato Farmers Represent! Thanks for the great content! I definitely got a good laugh out of it but I certainly dont blame you if you don't make another video lmao
This went about as well as I expected it to go four weeks ago 😂😂😂
Cheers, Matt. You're completely mad. You deserve that whiskey after this.💚
So glad your injury isn't stopping you from making this great content! 👍
Tomato farmers represent! while listening i was doing some repetitive work in Satisfactory, gotta get that Nuclear pasta goin'! anyway listening to you made that work feel easy squeezy
I would love to see a face cam while doing this.
100% need to see that
Over an hour of a frustrated British man. Loved it! 😂
Matt this is like watching you try to get Kate to play all those years ago, it's just painful, but low-key it's funny as hell
As a PS4 Kerbal space program player, j can say that it is definitely worth it to not skip the tutorial. I was slow at first but now I'm cruising through the game with my fingers cramped in all sorts of directions.
this makes me feel so much better about my own skills in kerbal space.
Same
Yes
He's dissing the xbox version smh. It does have a cursor, you just control it with the thumbstick if you press down on it, so if that's easier you can probably do it on PS4 too
PS4 works the same 👍🏻 using the track pad is literally awful 🙈
I thought I'd never catch up with Matt... 😂
Your struggle was the kind of funny that gives you guilt when you stop laughing. Thank you for persisting!
A few console tips:
1. Scrolling up and down in the vehicle assembly building is Right trigger + analogue stick
2. If you mouse over the MET in the top left corner, you can click the time warp arrows to time warp. It’s manual and a bit difficult.
3. You can only stage when your not in curser mode
4. Check controls in settings dummy
I play on console too so this will be fun and nice to copy cuz I kinda struggle. Hope you get better soon tho
Was that for the hand or the game
@@UncleSammy37 🤚
Tomato farmers represent. I can't wait for next week's hour plus of watching Matt struggle to play!
I felt the pain in this video. 10/10 empathy would empathize again
Ye
This is absolutely incredible. we need more live commentary Matt
I got to say, you are a trooper Matt. I would have called it quits halfway through.
I thought about suggesting KSP to one of my friends who has console, but after seeing even you struggle I don't think I can do that to him.
Yay its finally here.
"maybe you guys get some sort of sick enjoyment out of this" yes, yes we do
Have you tried the fast-menu? Press triangle when in the VAB or SPH
Oh, he knows about it, sorry
Matt: Hey Google, how do you quicksave?
Me: Nooo Matt, NOOOOOO
My google: *HERE ARE THE RESULTS*
Oh yes Matt uploaded, this is gonna be so fun and relaxing.
15 minutes in: RELEASE ME FROM THIS TORMENT!