Wow! Yes, rather than humbling themselves to take a closer scientific look at "present policies and thoughts" to see if their leading societies in peaceful direction. They just double down to try and force "present policies and thoughts" even if scientific evidence shows great damage to individuals' freedoms etc..
John Anderson is one of the greatest intervjuers nowadays, surely rivaled only by Peter Robinson at the Hoover Institution. This was a brilliant intervjue, Peter Hitchens is surely prophetic, God help us all
Yes he is a good interviewer because he is prepare to listen. If P Hitchens were interviewed by any of the usual suspects on in the BBC he would be constantly interrupted and talked over, to the point of tedium, because he would be challenging their core beliefs and they cannot cope with that.
I've followed a number of interviews of Peter Hitchens and watched snippets of him on UK TV, but this 44 minutes is simply the best of the lot, so far.
I don't know actually. I find China interesting but it seems to have the same issues previous empires in the past had and that was too high authoritarianism and a lack of sentimentality for the places they conquer. For example Malaysia (usually a one party state) for the first time has elected a different party led by a 90 year old on the basis of fighting Chinese expansionism into their country. China has invested huge amounts of money into Malaysia but at the expense of the Malaysian people ( for example a new city named forest city has been built based on Chinese money but the residents are mainly Chinese and not even the old Chinese families that have lived there for generations) and an old anti Chinese ethos has started to develop there. China will expand I have no doubt, it needs to because there is very little resource wealth there and there is that public will which Peter Hitchens spoke about driven a lot by the shame of the century of humiliation. However it runs over the nations around it with very little regard whereas the American Empire leaves foreign cultures with a lot of autonomy but less military. Japan for example spreads the American sphere of influence through military bases as punishment for WW2 but at the same time there isn't an anti American sentiment there and Japan has say in all its domestic matters other than military. China is expanding through debt traps disguised as foreign investment and has a very Chinese supremacist mindset. So I think it will fail due to it pissing off all the countries it needs to prosper from. I agree with Peter though it is inspiring but deeply unsettling to see its rise.
@@RiksFunStuff China has a population of 1.4 billion - more than America, Eastern & Western Europe combined. It only need to half-succeed to utterly dominate. I too went to China, and I saw the same colossal factory Peter saw. It is a gigantic airport terminal where nobody is really at home. The people worship money. They need not fully succeed. They have a very low bar to clear. The only thing that is more powerful is Western ideals; and these are not nearly strong enough even within the West, let alone against he coming Eastern onslaught. I am an Australian. You can already see Chinese influence *everywhere* here.
@@MasterSimpkins I think the Chinese influence is only let in rather than forced in though. So in general I think people will wake up to what the Chinese empire is shaping up to be and stop it when it starts to expand as Malaysia has started to do now realizing Chinese "investment" has a bit of a catch. I think Australia banned Huawei phone masts recently due to security concerns recently too or something along those lines. Something to do with data and such. (I might be wrong on the exact details but I remember it was over security concerns about Chinese companies and state influence). So I think in general the countries China seeks to influence just simply won't trust it and that is fatal as China has no modern resources at its disposal. It needs oil from the middle east, hard materials from Africa and has a large population it needs to provide a modern lifestyle for. All while the current government is oppressive to its people and still have the atrocities of Mao looming over their heads. I think if China experiences any negative growth or a stall in the economy which does seem to be looming, the political situation will get quite bad for the communist party and that coupled with its Chinese supremacist attitude to the countries it needs under its belt will lead to its crumbling. I think if China adopted Western political ideals however it would be quite unstoppable. Like Japan on steroids. If China approached empire like the Americans do they would easily rule the world with the Chinese work ethic behind ideals of freedom.
Riktor - China does have some important resources, like coal, but more importantly it has an almost monopoly on the World supply of Rare Earth materials (in case you don't know, Rare Earth is essential in the production of electronics. No Rare Earth materials = no electronics). But yes, China is expanding in to numerous Third World Countries because those countries have the raw materials that China wants. "The American Empire leaves foreign cultures with a lot of autonomy" - I think you meant countries, not cultures. The American Culture has infiltrated and permeated practically every country on the planet through Hollywood movies, TV, clothing (I am wearing jeans - out of choice - as I write this), music, technology (all the computers used in the World use either Microsoft or Apple Operating Systems). There's probably other examples but I think you get the picture. Oooops! I've just remembered the USA involvement (usually through the CIA) in the change of governments of many countries throughout the World since WW2. Examples include, but are not limited to, Iran (1953), Chile (1973), many Sub-Saharan African and Latin American countries as well as supporting brutal dictators in South Korea, The Philippines, Saddam Hussein in Iraq (while it suited them) and even my own country of New Zealand in 1974. For the most part there may not be anti-American sentiment in Japan but the women that have been occasionally raped over the years by the American servicemen stationed on Okinawa may disagree. As for the Huawei thing: The USA, Australia, New Zealand and (I think) Canada banned Huawei from operating in their countries because of its link to the Chinese military and they see this as a way of setting up spying equipment within those countries communication networks (in other words, if you make a call on a Huawei phone the Chinese government may be listening). I would like to see China become a democracy as you seem to want but the instrument of the Chinese state is too strong for that, at least for the foreseeable future. However 2026 is the year of the Fire Horse and if you want to know the significance of that then the pervious Fire Horse years were 1966 (Cultural Revolution) and 1906 (lots of demonstrations and protests in China).
Peter seems decidedly black pilled, while at the same time there are moments of rebellious hope ( such as 39:40 ) that John manages to excavate. A great interview, thankyou to all involved.
Yes he’s quite openly done with trying to change anything, he tried for years and found it futile and is just going to watch it all burn. A pity, he’s a great man.
Humanity has fallen again in it's search for the utopian paradise. Dreaming of a future that will never come. Living in the present that never will be. Trying to remember a past that will never return. Amazing interview. I always enjoy listening to Mr. Hichens insights.
Right above these comments! Here: Cray Fishe Cray Fishe 4 weeks ago He used to. Not now. He says what he is allowed to say. That goes for us all, though. However, most of us are not allowed to say much. He can say more than us - but it makes no difference, does it? Unless the final answer is said, what's the point of posing the problem? "Final answer" is in the last sentence.
Another brilliant interview , some days I am as pessimistic as this gentleman other days my faith rises and I know in my heart curve balls can come at any time and maybe God is not done with us just yet. Very interesting times we find ourselves living in though, very interesting, it is as they say, always darkest before the dawn.
I was born in Southampton went to Freemantle CofE School and was in the choir in 1966 for 7 years WE visited Mayflower Park often, watching the Liners like RMS Queen Elizabeth & Mary. We are listening to you Peter.
I just look at the national debt in the West, it's crumbling economy and the cultural void that was created this last 50-100 years and I see very little hope. People aren't going to vote for a party (if one even existed) to reverse the damage because it will mean going without and self discipline, instead they'll keep on voting for freebees paid for by our grand children. 2019 is going to be an interesting and potentially frightening year, 10 years after the 2008 crisis we're about to slide back into recession again...what happens then? The decline of our values in the west has also taken place at a shocking pace, I'm middle aged and I remember a country (the UK) that was quite nice, a bit poor but much more cohessive than today.
The prescience of Peter's recalling the film 'Contagion' to highlight the coming breakdown of social order is chilling. The coronavirus may well prove to be the final nail in fiat currency's coffin.
Incredible foresight..he's unfortunately bang on the money. His stance against the Government's reaction to COV-19 since March brought me here. Last of the great political history intellects, I'm afraid. Learn from him what you can whilst he's still here, active and ALLOWED to have a voice.
James McKay the Con of a virus is the cover for that collapse. But who controls the replacement is the battle now. Trump and a new gold standard. Or the Globalists and a Keynesian Bancor based on the SDR ?
It's now July and this was written in April or May. Man how things have changed. In light of what's happened, I agree with your comment, but my fear is what comes next - YIKES!
David Rhodes Dekulakisation - Make it impossible for small businesses to survive, so wiping out all competition to the Corporates. “ Everything for the state. Nothing against the state. Nothing outside the state”. After the complete financial collapse, depending on the results of USA election, either a new system, using a Crypto currency based on gold. Or a not so crypto digital currency based on the SDR - Like Keynes original Bancor.
Well done! My favorite Peter Hitchens interview so far. Peter talking about the church assisting the state in getting Christians to go to war against their Christian teachings is one of the reasons I've stopped respecting CS Lewis as being a Christian writer who not only praised Christians for going to war, but demanding it. When I saw Lewis's writings attempting to belittle the Christian for adhering to Christ's teachings I left him behind.
@Brad Bowers Oh, a point I didn't address that I think I should. Jesus did in fact teach pacifism to His sheep, the Christians. If you can show me a passage that refutes this fact I'd love to see it. Luke 22:36 states that Jesus told them to get swords, two swords were gathered for 12 men. Jesus said it was enough and we learn that the purpose of the swords was to teach a lesson to Peter and thus the rest of us when Peter drew the sword and cut off the temple guard's ear while trying to defend Jesus. It was another lesson in pacifism that Jesus was teaching, not a lesson in Christians going to war. In the war between the Jews and the Romans Jesus told His followers to flee the city, not to take sides in the war. Also Jesus making a rope whip and driving the Jewish merchants out of the temple was not a call to war. We don't know that Jesus actually struck anyone, just drove them out and threw their money and tables all over the ground for disrespecting His father's house. I thought I might save some time if you thought those might be proofs. If I missed something, again I would love to hear it.
Well done, J.A., and well said P.H. I was not familiar with Anderson as Deputy PM (I'm a Yank; I'd only see him on the news during some Australian crisis), but nice to see he's now working to enhance the voices of people like Hitchens. This is the first I've seen of Anderson's podcast--impressed enough to subscribe and delve into it further.
We need to embrace our Christian culture and heritage. Rejecting multi culturalism, feminism, no fault divorce, pornography. And embrace the classic teachings again. Virtue, morality, responsibility and Christian family.
One of my favorite anecdotes: After the battle for Cherbourg was over, German prisoners were paraded through the city on their way to detention. The local French people stood by the side of the road, cursing them and spitting on them. The Americans were very amused by this until some fellow GI's told them that just the week before, the Germans were parading American prisoners through the city, and the local French people stood by the side of the road cursing them and spitting at them. Most people simply follow whoever appears to be winning at the time, they have no guiding principles or morals.
Wether you agree or disagree with Peter Hitchens views. He continues to bring a different viewpoint and challenges you to rethink and research history. He is always clear and concise in debate and does not try to push his views down your throat. He tells it as he sees it and lets you make up your own mind. I can see why both left wing and the right wing tend to despise him. Mr Hitchens is always interesting to listen to. Thank You Mr Hitchens for sharing your views.
Astro Peanut You are quite right I despise him for writing for that rag of a newspaper. I despise him for denying man made climate change. I despise him for wanting to teach the alternative theory to the Theory of Evolution in our public schools. He appears to think that the UK was a much better place when we were building all our own stuff and wants to impose protections so that we can once again do that. I was around during those early post war days when working conditions were dire and health and safety along with other social conditions were dreadful. Hitchens says we would take a knock in our living standard to do so but it would be worth it. Note the use of the word WE in fact it would have very little affect on Hitchens living standards but a drastic affect on the vast majority of working people. If he wants to worship some magic man in the sky good luck to him but don't push it onto other people who don't believe such nonsense.
I really enjoyed this interview/conversation . Why aren`t conversations like this held , in our now corrupt/insane government . I guess I just answered my own question . It gives me hope that there are still sane and rational people in the public sphere . Thank you for posting this video .
Use to think Peter was a posh twat when I was a teenager, the older I get, the more I agree with and admire him. Fascinating video. Thanks for sharing.
i'm hoping this channel gets a lot more viewers. i'm centre-left and for anyone not far left or far right. reasonable political points of view are hard to find online.
JapanJohnny2012 I’m far more right, but I’m always drawn to these discussions, because we need to discuss the difficult issue full on, debate and dissect them, even when they are painful.
I am forever impressed with Mr. Anderson; he is a gentleman, a gentle man, intelligent, articulate, well read, a reasoned thinker, and a gracious host to his guests. I admire him tremendously. I admire Mr. Hitchens intellect but hate listening to him speak; he always seems to be muttering to himself - difficult to hear and difficult to understand. And he's not an easy interview as Mr. Anderson found out in this session. Quite frankly, if Mr. Anderson decided he needed to make a video of himself reading the Sydney telephone book, I'd probably watch - at least through the Cs.
What Peter does is modulate his speaking. A lot of middle-class English men seem to do it. Just watch the BBC male newsreaders and you'll see what I mean.
Peter is entirely correct about the seeming obliviousness of our cultural elite to our predicament. In fact if you work for the BBC or The Guardian you probably think that the good times are just getting started. Some will come over to our way of thinking as harsh realities crystallise but others will blame us for the failures of their utopian visions. They shall think that if only we did not protest and resist they would have that which they desire. And so they will not adjust their expectations but instead intensify their hatred directed towards us.
They aren't oblivious and you're a fool if you think they genuinely are. Remember that when we talk of "elites" we are talking about some of the most intelligent, educated, and well-informed people this side of the world has to offer, and I find it impossible to seriously accept that these people don't know exactly what they're doing.
@@50centpb7 elites are all you say they are, but ignorant as well in that many also believe incorrectly, that their expertice extends to many areas outside their field.
Keep up the good work John, pity you aren't still a politics here as a reasoned and sound mind against the madness though i think you know what would happen to you if you were still in politics and expressed these views. Though there is still strength left in the world of men... The men of the West might arise from their slumber and fight for all that is good and green in the world or the whole world will turn to darkness...(I'm paraphrasing Tolkien here of course). If people do not have the intellect to see what is coming or the will to fight it then people will get what they deserve... But as Peter said it is the civilised who will suffer but only for a short time as there won't be any civlised people left before long..
@@TheYanbibiya, and how do you know he is bemused by what he is hearing? Could it be that that's your reaction to what you are hearing, and not the interviewers by any chance?
Mr Hitchens view of Christianity is rather intriguing. As a the Catholic, I may draw attention to the fact that we have survived the Roman Empire, the Soviet Empire, the spread Islam, Attila the Hun, Alexander the Great, the plague, the French revolution, the enlightenment, the reformation, Darwin, freemasonry. The Catholic Faith remains, and numbers twice what we did in 1970. Matthew 16:18. Ne Timeas.
Peter Hitchens is a highly intelligent man, but I'm amazed Mr Anderson doggedly continued to ask questions in the face of such overwhelming pessimism. I almost sense he gets a perverse pleasure in his negative stance vis a vis the future.
Reason cannot be expected to choose between good and evil infallibly because the will has been corrupted. We all understand how little control we have over our lives, at least we have all have placed in a situation where we see how quickly it all could collapse. But if we survive, if we continue to live our humdrum lives without total disaster, we tend to develop this false confidence that it will all work our in the end. In the end, of course, we are all dead. If we reject the notion of the Resurrection, I think it is because we don’t want to be judged for all the evil we have done or the good we have not done. Most of us are pathetic versions of what we might have been. The irony is that we all, looking back, fail to see where we we went wrong.
Judy S. Thought provoking comment. Would have liked to know what your starting point is, use of language makes me think a religious one? I think many of us have an inclination of where we went wrong but very few us have the humility and the courage to let it surface to our consciousness, because once you acknowledge it then you have the unenviable and difficult task of rectifying it and who needs that? It is a lot easier to point out other people’s wrong doings!! Be well.
" 1, A ridiculous overestimate of our own importance in the world" Peter hits the nail on the head about the UK in 2019. Some of the leading politicians and electorate seem to think it's 1801 and the UK still dominates most of the world. In reality, it's a large economy that's about to potentially go through levels of economic turmoil that most of it's living inhabitants have never seen. The illusion of it's place in the world order is about to be shattered in a fairly brutal way. Mr Hitchens is right to be worried.
Great interview. Challenging. I would like to hear some perspective on the movement of Chinese Christians particularly their migration to the West. From my vantage point it seems the next wave of hope that John presses for seems to be the rise of the Chinese Christian community. Within next 15 years, will they hold seats of political and educational power and influence?
The only way Chinese Christians could attain seats of political and educational power and influence in China is to become members of the Chinese Communist Party. Can you realistically see that happening?
What has struck me lately in conversations with politically left leaning friends, family and acquaintances, is it is virtually impossible to get them to stay on topic with an issue they are uncomfortable about. Rather than attempt to expose the weaknesses or flaws in my point, fact or expose'. They always shift the discussion to another unrelated topic, person, or immaturely just insist I am wrong, without any context as to why. When I attempt to draw them back to the topic, person, etc. in question, they inevitably accuse me of being or supporting something I am not. If in their estimation I support this, person or position, they feel justified in ignoring what I am saying. This has happened numerous times lately. The most common accusation thrown at me is, "Well you are a Trump lover". I am Canadian, my friends, family and acquaintances are Canadians. Yet inevitably this accusation is thrown at me, when I begin proving the failings of socialism, the utter insanity of Black Lives Matter groups tearing down Canadian memorials of our historical figures, or the destruction left in the aftermath of their allegedly peaceful protests even here in Canada. This is becoming one of the darkest moments in history, because it is the most idiotic. Only one person has ever got back to me and said, "Calling you a Trump lover, was a real stupid thing for me to say. I thought about I conversation later, and it began to bother me, insomuch that I could not believe the only reply I could think of at the time was, you are a Trump lover. I am sorry". US media, is doing a great disservice to people everywhere, by laying all the problems occurring in North American at the feet of one person, to the point where their obsession for vilifying President Trump, is becoming infectious. So much so, that it seems to be influencing the ability of people everywhere to engage is civil discourse.
As Dr. Thomas Sowell has pointed out, it has not been that diversity is the strength of America [The West, we'll posit], it has been that their strength has been the ability to deal with the problems of diversity. Presents an interesting insight, or observation, that maybe we misunderstand how our differences are or aren't best adopted as replacements for 'content of character'.
Listening to this conversation I found myself imagining old gentlemen sitting in some club in England in the late 1930’s, with their whiskeys and cigars, discussing - lamenting might be a better word - the decline of their world, and reminiscing about the “good old days” of Victorian empire, cricket, and such things, while ignoring completely the gathering storm across the English Channel, and the fact that bombs would soon be falling on them. Until we pull our heads out of the sand and actually begin discussing what the real problems are that we face - a corporate capitalism which has led our planet to an environmental cliff being perhaps the main one that nobody really discusses - until then we have to suffer people like Hitchens lamenting and confusing their own mid to late life crisis with what is really going on. We are living in a time of fantastic change, culturally, technologically, environmentally, economically, and only a very few people of vision and intellect can grasp the reality of our situation, let alone see a path forward. Hitchens isn’t one of them. (I think I just heard the air raid siren)
PH's posh accent use to put me off of listening to him but now I have managed to overcome that I have to admit I am finding what he says on various subjects very thought provoking. Unbelievable he was mentioning the film Contagion back in 2019.
I share Hitchen's pessimism. The foundations of our civilization have already crumbled. Any number of things could finish it off, but don't look to politicians for salvation. I only hope that I don't live long enough to experience the end.
It won’t be pretty. I’m 40 and I see it approaching like a wildfire. You have to look beyond his pessimism though. As should he. Letting it play out. If he truly believed in scripture from front to back? He’d be comforted in knowing it’s almost over. Armageddon anyone? What comes after is where hope is sustained.
Most people would have voted for the nazi party in pre war Germany. When money becomes useless, political violence in the streets, a nation forced to denigrate there own nation and pay a unbelievable reparations. And one party promises to restore order and pride you’d vote for it. That’s why I don’t view the average 1930s German as a monster.
“They haven’t learned that they’re wrong, they’ve learned how to be wrong better”
I'll do one better. A good liar will always be right when debating a timid honest individual.
@@Senorzilchnzero that's brilliant
Wow! Yes, rather than humbling themselves to take a closer scientific look at "present policies and thoughts" to see if their leading societies in peaceful direction. They just double down to try and force "present policies and thoughts" even if scientific evidence shows great damage to individuals' freedoms etc..
John Anderson is fantastic and immensely pleasurable to listen to, from the UK 🇬🇧
Wonderful, wise, compassionate Peter Hitchens. Great interview. Thank you.
Hitchens is pretty much spot on about everything ...never heard him before this but I could listen to him muse all day every day.
John Anderson is one of the greatest intervjuers nowadays, surely rivaled only by Peter Robinson at the Hoover Institution. This was a brilliant intervjue, Peter Hitchens is surely prophetic, God help us all
Totally agree!
Per Person no this man is doom and gloom and god is love
Your interviews are fantastic and enlightening John. I’m glad you can do these without the biased MSM.
Yes he is a good interviewer because he is prepare to listen. If P Hitchens were interviewed by any of the usual suspects on in the BBC he would be constantly interrupted and talked over, to the point of tedium, because he would be challenging their core beliefs and they cannot cope with that.
There was something about John Anderson that Peter liked, so he opened up and gave one of his best interviews.
Because he was calm and smelt Peter speak his mind fully without interrupting
He could tell that he was intelligent and asked thoughtful questions
he saw a fellow gentleman
yeah proper questions
I've followed a number of interviews of Peter Hitchens and watched snippets of him on UK TV, but this 44 minutes is simply the best of the lot, so far.
So much of what Peter described in this interview is truer now, a year later. The mark of a truly great mind.
Yes!!
And truer still, 3 years later
Peter should talk about China more often. Absolutely spot on.
I don't know actually. I find China interesting but it seems to have the same issues previous empires in the past had and that was too high authoritarianism and a lack of sentimentality for the places they conquer.
For example Malaysia (usually a one party state) for the first time has elected a different party led by a 90 year old on the basis of fighting Chinese expansionism into their country. China has invested huge amounts of money into Malaysia but at the expense of the Malaysian people ( for example a new city named forest city has been built based on Chinese money but the residents are mainly Chinese and not even the old Chinese families that have lived there for generations) and an old anti Chinese ethos has started to develop there.
China will expand I have no doubt, it needs to because there is very little resource wealth there and there is that public will which Peter Hitchens spoke about driven a lot by the shame of the century of humiliation. However it runs over the nations around it with very little regard whereas the American Empire leaves foreign cultures with a lot of autonomy but less military. Japan for example spreads the American sphere of influence through military bases as punishment for WW2 but at the same time there isn't an anti American sentiment there and Japan has say in all its domestic matters other than military.
China is expanding through debt traps disguised as foreign investment and has a very Chinese supremacist mindset. So I think it will fail due to it pissing off all the countries it needs to prosper from. I agree with Peter though it is inspiring but deeply unsettling to see its rise.
@@RiksFunStuff China has a population of 1.4 billion - more than America, Eastern & Western Europe combined. It only need to half-succeed to utterly dominate. I too went to China, and I saw the same colossal factory Peter saw. It is a gigantic airport terminal where nobody is really at home. The people worship money. They need not fully succeed. They have a very low bar to clear. The only thing that is more powerful is Western ideals; and these are not nearly strong enough even within the West, let alone against he coming Eastern onslaught. I am an Australian. You can already see Chinese influence *everywhere* here.
@@MasterSimpkins I think the Chinese influence is only let in rather than forced in though. So in general I think people will wake up to what the Chinese empire is shaping up to be and stop it when it starts to expand as Malaysia has started to do now realizing Chinese "investment" has a bit of a catch.
I think Australia banned Huawei phone masts recently due to security concerns recently too or something along those lines. Something to do with data and such. (I might be wrong on the exact details but I remember it was over security concerns about Chinese companies and state influence).
So I think in general the countries China seeks to influence just simply won't trust it and that is fatal as China has no modern resources at its disposal. It needs oil from the middle east, hard materials from Africa and has a large population it needs to provide a modern lifestyle for. All while the current government is oppressive to its people and still have the atrocities of Mao looming over their heads. I think if China experiences any negative growth or a stall in the economy which does seem to be looming, the political situation will get quite bad for the communist party and that coupled with its Chinese supremacist attitude to the countries it needs under its belt will lead to its crumbling.
I think if China adopted Western political ideals however it would be quite unstoppable. Like Japan on steroids. If China approached empire like the Americans do they would easily rule the world with the Chinese work ethic behind ideals of freedom.
Riktor - China does have some important resources, like coal, but more importantly it has an almost monopoly on the World supply of Rare Earth materials (in case you don't know, Rare Earth is essential in the production of electronics. No Rare Earth materials = no electronics).
But yes, China is expanding in to numerous Third World Countries because those countries have the raw materials that China wants.
"The American Empire leaves foreign cultures with a lot of autonomy" - I think you meant countries, not cultures.
The American Culture has infiltrated and permeated practically every country on the planet through Hollywood movies, TV, clothing (I am wearing jeans - out of choice - as I write this), music, technology (all the computers used in the World use either Microsoft or Apple Operating Systems). There's probably other examples but I think you get the picture.
Oooops! I've just remembered the USA involvement (usually through the CIA) in the change of governments of many countries throughout the World since WW2. Examples include, but are not limited to, Iran (1953), Chile (1973), many Sub-Saharan African and Latin American countries as well as supporting brutal dictators in South Korea, The Philippines, Saddam Hussein in Iraq (while it suited them) and even my own country of New Zealand in 1974.
For the most part there may not be anti-American sentiment in Japan but the women that have been occasionally raped over the years by the American servicemen stationed on Okinawa may disagree.
As for the Huawei thing: The USA, Australia, New Zealand and (I think) Canada banned Huawei from operating in their countries because of its link to the Chinese military and they see this as a way of setting up spying equipment within those countries communication networks (in other words, if you make a call on a Huawei phone the Chinese government may be listening).
I would like to see China become a democracy as you seem to want but the instrument of the Chinese state is too strong for that, at least for the foreseeable future. However 2026 is the year of the Fire Horse and if you want to know the significance of that then the pervious Fire Horse years were 1966 (Cultural Revolution) and 1906 (lots of demonstrations and protests in China).
Peter seems decidedly black pilled, while at the same time there are moments of rebellious hope ( such as 39:40 ) that John manages to excavate. A great interview, thankyou to all involved.
Yes he’s quite openly done with trying to change anything, he tried for years and found it futile and is just going to watch it all burn. A pity, he’s a great man.
Humanity has fallen again in it's search for the utopian paradise.
Dreaming of a future that will never come.
Living in the present that never will be.
Trying to remember a past that will never return.
Amazing interview. I always enjoy listening to Mr. Hichens insights.
Peter is a God send... I admire his resilience👌🔝🔝
Peter hitchins calls it straight which isn’t very popular in a society in denial
@Cray Fishe
What is this mysterious "final answer" that you seem privy to, but which is somehow denied me? Care to enlighten me?
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He used to. Not now. He says what he is allowed to say. That goes for us all, though. However, most of us are not allowed to say much. He can say more than us - but it makes no difference, does it? Unless the final answer is said, what's the point of posing the problem?
"Final answer" is in the last sentence.
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Great interview - Peter Hitchens saying it the way it is - speaking the truth.
God help us !!!
Not even going to wait to watch it before giving it a thumbs up. *Edit* - I was right. Absolutely outstanding.
Another brilliant interview , some days I am as pessimistic as this gentleman other days my faith rises and I know in my heart curve balls can come at any time and maybe God is not done with us just yet. Very interesting times we find ourselves living in though, very interesting, it is as they say, always darkest before the dawn.
HItchens is perhaps my favorite intellectual in the world right now.
Excellent interview. Peter is a national treasure, even if he betrays a certain snobbery in his dislike of popularism, Trump, etc.
I was born in Southampton went to Freemantle CofE School and was in the choir in 1966 for
7 years WE visited Mayflower Park often, watching the Liners like RMS Queen Elizabeth & Mary.
We are listening to you Peter.
I remember ads on TV during the 1960s for Shaw Savill liners going to and from the UK: The Northern Star and the Southern Cross.
Hes right on many things, but his schtick of pessimism should be seen as a wake-up call, not absolute destiny.
I just look at the national debt in the West, it's crumbling economy and the cultural void that was created this last 50-100 years and I see very little hope. People aren't going to vote for a party (if one even existed) to reverse the damage because it will mean going without and self discipline, instead they'll keep on voting for freebees paid for by our grand children. 2019 is going to be an interesting and potentially frightening year, 10 years after the 2008 crisis we're about to slide back into recession again...what happens then? The decline of our values in the west has also taken place at a shocking pace, I'm middle aged and I remember a country (the UK) that was quite nice, a bit poor but much more cohessive than today.
I agree, Smith.
I don't think its a schtick. I do think its a bit tiresome but I think that's actually how he is. He doesn't care enough to pretend to be otherwise.
How are you feeling now?!?! Destiny my friend?
@@jacobvanveit3437 Im not feeling good. I didnt realise our nations were so weak.
The prescience of Peter's recalling the film 'Contagion' to highlight the coming breakdown of social order is chilling. The coronavirus may well prove to be the final nail in fiat currency's coffin.
I had to look at the upload date twice. I was shocked as to what I was listening to
Incredible foresight..he's unfortunately bang on the money. His stance against the Government's reaction to COV-19 since March brought me here.
Last of the great political history intellects, I'm afraid. Learn from him what you can whilst he's still here, active and ALLOWED to have a voice.
James McKay the Con of a virus is the cover for that collapse. But who controls the replacement is the battle now. Trump and a new gold standard. Or the Globalists and a Keynesian Bancor based on the SDR ?
It's now July and this was written in April or May. Man how things have changed. In light of what's happened, I agree with your comment, but my fear is what comes next - YIKES!
David Rhodes Dekulakisation - Make it impossible for small businesses to survive, so wiping out all competition to the Corporates. “ Everything for the state. Nothing against the state. Nothing outside the state”. After the complete financial collapse, depending on the results of USA election, either a new system, using a Crypto currency based on gold. Or a not so crypto digital currency based on the SDR - Like Keynes original Bancor.
Hahahaha! John Anderson was completely stumped near the end. You gotta love Hitchens.
Thank you and God bless you Peter.
"I don't do temporal hope". What a depressing, if enlightening, interview.
He believes in everlasting hope. 😊
@@1969cmp Amen, Jesus is THE only hope ultimately.
Jaw dropping candor. Thank you.
Thanks for all the work you put into these interviews, John. It’s much appreciated.
Well done! My favorite Peter Hitchens interview so far.
Peter talking about the church assisting the state in getting Christians to go to war against their Christian teachings is one of the reasons I've stopped respecting CS Lewis as being a Christian writer who not only praised Christians for going to war, but demanding it. When I saw Lewis's writings attempting to belittle the Christian for adhering to Christ's teachings I left him behind.
@Brad Bowers Oh, a point I didn't address that I think I should. Jesus did in fact teach pacifism to His sheep, the Christians. If you can show me a passage that refutes this fact I'd love to see it. Luke 22:36 states that Jesus told them to get swords, two swords were gathered for 12 men. Jesus said it was enough and we learn that the purpose of the swords was to teach a lesson to Peter and thus the rest of us when Peter drew the sword and cut off the temple guard's ear while trying to defend Jesus. It was another lesson in pacifism that Jesus was teaching, not a lesson in Christians going to war. In the war between the Jews and the Romans Jesus told His followers to flee the city, not to take sides in the war. Also Jesus making a rope whip and driving the Jewish merchants out of the temple was not a call to war. We don't know that Jesus actually struck anyone, just drove them out and threw their money and tables all over the ground for disrespecting His father's house. I thought I might save some time if you thought those might be proofs.
If I missed something, again I would love to hear it.
Well done, J.A., and well said P.H. I was not familiar with Anderson as Deputy PM (I'm a Yank; I'd only see him on the news during some Australian crisis), but nice to see he's now working to enhance the voices of people like Hitchens. This is the first I've seen of Anderson's podcast--impressed enough to subscribe and delve into it further.
Watching this on the 14/5/2020 and it is eerily accurate!
It's accurate because the Bible makes it clear. Read it.
We need to embrace our Christian culture and heritage. Rejecting multi culturalism, feminism, no fault divorce, pornography. And embrace the classic teachings again. Virtue, morality, responsibility and Christian family.
@Australian Meditations already am subscribed check out VertigoPolitix UA-cam channel
You can't be serious to say embrace our Christian culture
@@slurmcarey3069 Idiot
@@slurmcarey3069 Christianity is our (the west's) culture.
@@joanketelby752 And you think we should embrace it? I dont think so
The two interviews by John are 2 of the very best PH has ever given. Which is saying something, as he’s always a great listen.
One of my favorite anecdotes:
After the battle for Cherbourg was over, German prisoners were paraded through the city on their way to detention. The local French people stood by the side of the road, cursing them and spitting on them. The Americans were very amused by this until some fellow GI's told them that just the week before, the Germans were parading American prisoners through the city, and the local French people stood by the side of the road cursing them and spitting at them.
Most people simply follow whoever appears to be winning at the time, they have no guiding principles or morals.
What a brilliant starting analogy in the first 2 and a half minutes. Brilliant.
looking at what has happened this past year Peter speaks truth.
Incredible interview. Thank you.
Wether you agree or disagree with Peter Hitchens views. He continues to bring a different viewpoint and challenges you to rethink and research history. He is always clear and concise in debate and does not try to push his views down your throat. He tells it as he sees it and lets you make up your own mind. I can see why both left wing and the right wing tend to despise him. Mr Hitchens is always interesting to listen to. Thank You Mr Hitchens for sharing your views.
Astro Peanut
You are quite right I despise him for writing for that rag of a newspaper. I despise him for denying man made climate change. I despise him for wanting to teach the alternative theory to the Theory of Evolution in our public schools. He appears to think that the UK was a much better place when we were building all our own stuff and wants to impose protections so that we can once again do that. I was around during those early post war days when working conditions were dire and health and safety along with other social conditions were dreadful. Hitchens says we would take a knock in our living standard to do so but it would be worth it. Note the use of the word WE in fact it would have very little affect on Hitchens living standards but a drastic affect on the vast majority of working people.
If he wants to worship some magic man in the sky good luck to him but don't push it onto other people who don't believe such nonsense.
Tridhos - Peter said in this interview, and I have heard him say it in others, that he specifically does not want to turn the clock back.
Watching this now... Wow. The writing on the wall seems clear and it's quite scary. I wonder what the future holds for us.
John always has the best questions! Thank you
This is deep and true. Dont look for hope in Politics is a great Fact . Thank god we dont live forever.
I really enjoyed this interview/conversation . Why aren`t conversations like this held , in our now corrupt/insane government . I guess I just answered my own question . It gives me hope that there are still sane and rational people in the public sphere . Thank you for posting this video .
Great interview! Hes really the better Hitchens ..
Indeed. Peter grew up, Christopher never did. Though Peter is a lesser conversationalist to put it mildly
I still enjoy both, because they were educated thinkers
Christopher was by far the more gifted rhetorician and had a greater wit but Peter possesses a rare moral wisdom.
He's nowhere near the intellect of the late great Christopher.
Sure he is .... Christopher just had more charisma and fluffy poise.
Use to think Peter was a posh twat when I was a teenager, the older I get, the more I agree with and admire him. Fascinating video. Thanks for sharing.
A great in-depth interview and I've never seen anyone press PH for a positive message before.
i'm hoping this channel gets a lot more viewers. i'm centre-left and for anyone not far left or far right. reasonable political points of view are hard to find online.
Oh yes, the good old centre-ground. A place where everyone's miserable.
JapanJohnny2012
Prove it, using mathematics. I expect references to the Minsky Moment, or Ito’s Lemma
Good luck !
JapanJohnny2012 I’m far more right, but I’m always drawn to these discussions, because we need to discuss the difficult issue full on, debate and dissect them, even when they are painful.
Try the Rubin report and Hoover institution on UA-cam
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Yes. Excellent spots to listen and learn from!
I am forever impressed with Mr. Anderson; he is a gentleman, a gentle man, intelligent, articulate, well read, a reasoned thinker, and a gracious host to his guests. I admire him tremendously. I admire Mr. Hitchens intellect but hate listening to him speak; he always seems to be muttering to himself - difficult to hear and difficult to understand. And he's not an easy interview as Mr. Anderson found out in this session.
Quite frankly, if Mr. Anderson decided he needed to make a video of himself reading the Sydney telephone book, I'd probably watch - at least through the Cs.
Welcome to the posh version of the English accent... Your reaction is entirely subjective and should not detract from the message.
What Peter does is modulate his speaking. A lot of middle-class English men seem to do it. Just watch the BBC male newsreaders and you'll see what I mean.
@@kiwitrainguy It's rather an odd affectation, isn't it? With all due respect, Kiwi, I'll pass on watching the BBC. Thanks for you kind comment.
A great interview thank you
Love how he uses his brothers thoughts for his arguments. Very telling.
Peter is entirely correct about the seeming obliviousness of our cultural elite to our predicament. In fact if you work for the BBC or The Guardian you probably think that the good times are just getting started.
Some will come over to our way of thinking as harsh realities crystallise but others will blame us for the failures of their utopian visions. They shall think that if only we did not protest and resist they would have that which they desire. And so they will not adjust their expectations but instead intensify their hatred directed towards us.
They aren't oblivious and you're a fool if you think they genuinely are. Remember that when we talk of "elites" we are talking about some of the most intelligent, educated, and well-informed people this side of the world has to offer, and I find it impossible to seriously accept that these people don't know exactly what they're doing.
@@50centpb7 elites are all you say they are, but ignorant as well in that many also believe incorrectly, that their expertice extends to many areas outside their field.
Keep up the good work John, pity you aren't still a politics here as a reasoned and sound mind against the madness though i think you know what would happen to you if you were still in politics and expressed these views. Though there is still strength left in the world of men... The men of the West might arise from their slumber and fight for all that is good and green in the world or the whole world will turn to darkness...(I'm paraphrasing Tolkien here of course). If people do not have the intellect to see what is coming or the will to fight it then people will get what they deserve... But as Peter said it is the civilised who will suffer but only for a short time as there won't be any civlised people left before long..
That Tolkien reference is very apt. We hold on to The Shire for as long as we can.
he is so much like his Brother , great thinkers with spine both of them
Peter Hitchens has an incredible mind. big fan sir
What an interview. A great guest demands an amazing interviewer.
One of my new favorite channels! Thank you for sharing.
Thank you so much for the support!
it's not democracy which destroys freedom, it's the people in it, and it just shows that can never rest, you always have to fight for freedom!
Excellent video!
Commenting to give it a boost in the UA-cam algorithm
Same!
First time viewer, top notch host. Thanks for putting this out there.
This is how you conduct an interview. Ask good questions, listen to the answers, and respond on occasion to the answers given.
John isn't usually so bemused by what's he is hearing. Don't be a fool.
@@TheYanbibiya, and how do you know he is bemused by what he is hearing? Could it be that that's your reaction to what you are hearing, and not the interviewers by any chance?
Mr Hitchens view of Christianity is rather intriguing. As a the Catholic, I may draw attention to the fact that we have survived the Roman Empire, the Soviet Empire, the spread Islam, Attila the Hun, Alexander the Great, the plague, the French revolution, the enlightenment, the reformation, Darwin, freemasonry. The Catholic Faith remains, and numbers twice what we did in 1970. Matthew 16:18. Ne Timeas.
Will it survive Vatican II?
man this was a great convo!! thanks for this John
“It’s extraordinary how gullible people are”
Great conversation. Well done.
Peter Hitchens is a highly intelligent man, but I'm amazed Mr Anderson doggedly continued to ask questions in the face of such overwhelming pessimism. I almost sense he gets a perverse pleasure in his negative stance vis a vis the future.
Does the condemned man get perverse pleasure contemplating his death at the rising of the Sun?
@@petergregory8864 'Do not go gentle into that good night, old age should burn and rave at close of day'.
OMG Peter is so so dour...but so so right..shit we are doomed. Brilliant programme. love Mr Anderson
Im listening to this thinking this is definitely before covid. And yeah 1 year ago. Love his weekly chats on talk radio.
Not afraid to speak his mind and very smart. 183,000 views shows people aren't spending much time thinking these days or examining their own beliefs.
Good channel John. Keep up the good work!
Still very sad about Christopher's passing. I find Peter to be a very interesting and persuasive fellow. From across the pond, best wishes.
Great thinker ! The same is true in my country - France.
These are just great conversations. Congratulations to you.
Great interview
Reason cannot be expected to choose between good and evil infallibly because the will has been corrupted. We all understand how little control we have over our lives, at least we have all have placed in a situation where we see how quickly it all could collapse. But if we survive, if we continue to live our humdrum lives without total disaster, we tend to develop this false confidence that it will all work our in the end. In the end, of course, we are all dead. If we reject the notion of the Resurrection, I think it is because we don’t want to be judged for all the evil we have done or the good we have not done. Most of us are pathetic versions of what we might have been. The irony is that we all, looking back, fail to see where we we went wrong.
Judy S. Thought provoking comment. Would have liked to know what your starting point is, use of language makes me think a religious one? I think many of us have an inclination of where we went wrong but very few us have the humility and the courage to let it surface to our consciousness, because once you acknowledge it then you have the unenviable and difficult task of rectifying it and who needs that? It is a lot easier to point out other people’s wrong doings!! Be well.
" 1, A ridiculous overestimate of our own importance in the world"
Peter hits the nail on the head about the UK in 2019. Some of the leading politicians and electorate seem to think it's 1801 and the UK still dominates most of the world. In reality, it's a large economy that's about to potentially go through levels of economic turmoil that most of it's living inhabitants have never seen. The illusion of it's place in the world order is about to be shattered in a fairly brutal way. Mr Hitchens is right to be worried.
I could listen to this grump all day
What an interesting interview
Good sensible thought!
Spot on Peter Hitchens - 'it takes some nerve not to run with the crowd.'
Hope is in eternity, that's where one finds it. That's the Christian message!
Great interview. Challenging. I would like to hear some perspective on the movement of Chinese Christians particularly their migration to the West. From my vantage point it seems the next wave of hope that John presses for seems to be the rise of the Chinese Christian community. Within next 15 years, will they hold seats of political and educational power and influence?
We have Chinese monks where I live. Have you ever wondered what happened to Tibetan monks?
The only way Chinese Christians could attain seats of political and educational power and influence in China is to become members of the Chinese Communist Party.
Can you realistically see that happening?
Well that was quite depressing.....thanks Peter.
What has struck me lately in conversations with politically left leaning friends, family and acquaintances, is it is virtually impossible to get them to stay on topic with an issue they are uncomfortable about. Rather than attempt to expose the weaknesses or flaws in my point, fact or expose'. They always shift the discussion to another unrelated topic, person, or immaturely just insist I am wrong, without any context as to why. When I attempt to draw them back to the topic, person, etc. in question, they inevitably accuse me of being or supporting something I am not. If in their estimation I support this, person or position, they feel justified in ignoring what I am saying. This has happened numerous times lately. The most common accusation thrown at me is, "Well you are a Trump lover". I am Canadian, my friends, family and acquaintances are Canadians. Yet inevitably this accusation is thrown at me, when I begin proving the failings of socialism, the utter insanity of Black Lives Matter groups tearing down Canadian memorials of our historical figures, or the destruction left in the aftermath of their allegedly peaceful protests even here in Canada. This is becoming one of the darkest moments in history, because it is the most idiotic. Only one person has ever got back to me and said, "Calling you a Trump lover, was a real stupid thing for me to say. I thought about I conversation later, and it began to bother me, insomuch that I could not believe the only reply I could think of at the time was, you are a Trump lover. I am sorry". US media, is doing a great disservice to people everywhere, by laying all the problems occurring in North American at the feet of one person, to the point where their obsession for vilifying President Trump, is becoming infectious. So much so, that it seems to be influencing the ability of people everywhere to engage is civil discourse.
Where does the hope come from? CHRIST! Thanks John, love ya work!
As Dr. Thomas Sowell has pointed out, it has not been that diversity is the strength of America [The West, we'll posit], it has been that their strength has been the ability to deal with the problems of diversity. Presents an interesting insight, or observation, that maybe we misunderstand how our differences are or aren't best adopted as replacements for 'content of character'.
Brilliantly pragmatic and morbid! Peter Hitchens always great. Poor John..the pauses kept getting longer and longer.
Food for thought indeed.
Great interview, Mr. Anderson.
How have you only got 5.9k subscribers?! Look forward to your youtube success....great interviewer.
Love you pete
Listening to this conversation I found myself imagining old gentlemen sitting in some club in England in the late 1930’s, with their whiskeys and cigars, discussing - lamenting might be a better word - the decline of their world, and reminiscing about the “good old days” of Victorian empire, cricket, and such things, while ignoring completely the gathering storm across the English Channel, and the fact that bombs would soon be falling on them. Until we pull our heads out of the sand and actually begin discussing what the real problems are that we face - a corporate capitalism which has led our planet to an environmental cliff being perhaps the main one that nobody really discusses - until then we have to suffer people like Hitchens lamenting and confusing their own mid to late life crisis with what is really going on. We are living in a time of fantastic change, culturally, technologically, environmentally, economically, and only a very few people of vision and intellect can grasp the reality of our situation, let alone see a path forward. Hitchens isn’t one of them. (I think I just heard the air raid siren)
He mumbles incessantly. I have to turn the volume on full blast just to understand him. Haha. Love Hitchens.
PH's posh accent use to put me off of listening to him but now I have managed to overcome that I have to admit I am finding what he says on various subjects very thought provoking. Unbelievable he was mentioning the film Contagion back in 2019.
Even the thought of what awaits the likes of Peter Hitchens is a health-taxing influence
I share Hitchen's pessimism. The foundations of our civilization have already crumbled. Any number of things could finish it off, but don't look to politicians for salvation. I only hope that I don't live long enough to experience the end.
I've got 3 years to go until I retire, then about another 25-30 years of life after that.
It should be interesting to watch...
It won’t be pretty. I’m 40 and I see it approaching like a wildfire. You have to look beyond his pessimism though. As should he. Letting it play out. If he truly believed in scripture from front to back? He’d be comforted in knowing it’s almost over. Armageddon anyone? What comes after is where hope is sustained.
Imagine how much has changed in a year. You can vote for VERY different parties in Britain right now. Three very different paths ahead.
In 1882 Nietzsche declared that god is dead..The wave that Peter is describing has been rolling towards the shore ever since..
Conspiracy Dave God aint dead. People who denies Him are dead
@@appalachiahiker853 Which god is dead?
The one that neitzche referred to.
@@appalachiahiker853 Secularism won the battle for control of mainstream Western culture. As a cultural force, God is dead.
city_of_compton 68 and so the nation and its culture
14:04 John "I would have joined the hitler youth" Anderson, cant wait for this to be taken out of context.
In a Totalitarian country you don't have any choice in these matters.
Most people would have voted for the nazi party in pre war Germany. When money becomes useless, political violence in the streets, a nation forced to denigrate there own nation and pay a unbelievable reparations. And one party promises to restore order and pride you’d vote for it. That’s why I don’t view the average 1930s German as a monster.
I'd love to know what Peter Hitchens thinks of Oswald Spengler.
I would have loved to hear his brother talk about the last four years
Supreme
Optimism blinds you to reality