I 𝗥𝗘𝗚𝗥𝗘𝗧 Buying My £30,000 Reference Monitor So Much…
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- Опубліковано 16 лис 2023
- I spent £30,000 to purchase a Sony BVM-HX310 mastering monitor for use as reference in my TV reviews & comparisons, but now I'm so regretting the decision, due to the release of the new Sony BVM-HX3110 which offers many advantages over the HX310, including 4000 nits of peak brightness on a 10% window.
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You must "beg" Sony to supply you with this new monitor free, since you are undoubtedly the expert in tv reviews on UA-cam 🌈
Why do you think he made this video for ?! ;)
@@CrashBashLmuh-muh
The video title should read:
"Come on Sony, please just send me one of these juicy Hx3110 - I promise it will be prominently featured in many of my widely watched review videos.
Thank you." 😊
Jokes aside, the chap’s a bit out of date monitor is still so superb that Sony Professional can totally do a fair trade-in program with profit for itself with no special discounts for the chap.
I saw the hx3110 at IBC next to the 310 and it's impossible to show in a youtube video how good these things look in real life. It's insane. And yes the 3110 looks even better than the 310. I've seen a lot of good tv's and monitors, but there's nothing that compares to these things.
I"ll never ever never never never ever make use of 4000 nits in DARK room. Honestly i don't care.
I have always wondered why can’t consumer tv’s not look like those reference monitors? Why is athlete a different display on the reference monitors and not on the consumer ones? And how does that differ in cost?
@@emiel255because it takes effort to make it look that good. Effort that costs a lot of money which is being factored into the price. Otherwise consumer TV's would cost 5 figures which no average consumer would pay. It's about detail work, like handcrafted stuff vs mass produces stuff.
@@Ustaleone Im curious to know the amount of effort those people put into a reference monitor like that compared to a consumer TV let’s say the Lg c3
@@emiel255 my guess as a eletronics engineer in the medical area is that this references monitors need to pass a long and hard tests with way higher tolerances compared to the consumer TVs. Which can make a product cost way more at the end (including labour + costs of doing multiple batchs of some parts to achieve the necessary minimum quality required).
On the one hand, you always regret your purchases when better products come onto the market, but on the other hand it is good when technology in general is evolving. It's a double-edged sword.
Well, if you got money you wouldn't regret paying for what you enjoy...
I agree, as I think companies who buy such high-end professional monitors for their video production studios (or full TV and/or film studios) would generally use them for MANY years, like maybe around 5, 8, or 10 years, during their business accounting periods before replacing them in groups alongside other devices, unless they were to get their accounting departments to make exceptions which would affect their budgets. I say the same for stuff like high-end PC monitors and pen displays since I often see behind-the-scenes videos of studios using older equipment.
The equipment that's still working would often be sold off if the company/studio were smart enough, then smaller companies/studios with smaller budgets could then buy them used and continue using them.
In the case of the latter, I was reminded of a UA-cam video where a small regional TV channel reused one of their older CRT-based PVM or BVM models to monitor some video output.
Upgrade #7. hx3110 has an addition 1.
Janitors at Apple are better at naming products than Sony
We all get buyers remorse. 😂
Yes and that is even more true with Tv's/Monitors than most other electronics (typing this with my A90J in the other room).
@@bzdtempbeing an audiophile I beg to differ 😫
@@totalplonker824 Well yes and no.
The thing is that apart from DAC's and maybe home theater gear, most audiophile tech doesn't get replaced by new and better every 12 months. What was an amazing amp a decade ago is still an amazing amp, same thing with the turn table and so on.
Of course things depreciate over time, but apart from say the wear on the needle or something, it is nothing like what we see with TV's and anything computer related.
However what happens in my experience, is that some audiophiles forever chase improvements which leads them to forever replacing new gear. This has two major benefits A. it means a bigger turn over so there is more development and choice for audiophiles and B. A much bigger 2nd hand market with almost new gear to choose from. Being patient my experience you can make great 2nd hand audiophile finds, simply because some forever chase the next improvement.
It is very important to pay attention to the screen coating. It makes a huge difference in perceived black level and contrast and colors.
Exactly the reason I'm NOT getting the anti-glare screen option when ordering the new Steam Deck OLED. Because it makes the blacks look dim, almost grey.
@@UptownNYC All smartphones are glossy.. For a reason..
@@UptownNYCExactly this. I'm thinking about getting a Deck OLED (still not entirely sure if I will) but I really don't like that paying more gets you a worse screen being advertised as if it's an upgrade. If they just made the anti glare coating optional, it would be fine. But no. If you want a 1TB Steam Deck OLED with the glossy screen, you have to buy the 512GB model and upgrade it yourself.
It would be interesting for you to do a "deep dive" into the technology inside these reference monitors which makes them superior too any domestically available tv on the market.
actually there is a consumer one with blacker blacks compared to this one with the smallest size being 55" or something, i'd wager cheaper too. honestly when i was gaming on my around 30" a decade ago, my face would be 1 foot from the action which cant be done on something much larger while having everything in your front view and cohesive, plus you need the extra processing power to not skip a beat on the moving pictures, honestly get vr and be done with it but no one is doin that either. or get a portable projector for such an investment.
0:24 holy crap that difference of peak luminance is insane.
It is always interesting to see what the cutting-edge tech looks like. Even if I'm way behind on that, I can make informed purchases for my current budget.
That will always happens with electronics, the next better model .It's the circle of electronic life.
Love the yukata, very sharp and comfortable looking.
Thanks, Vincent, for the video .
You need to test the oled steamdeck, it has a build in HDR visualizer just like reference monitors ;)
Thank you. Excellent explanation.
This will be my next Gaming Monitor.
Not very high refresh rate though. Also wonder what the input latency would be.
@@djayjpmaybe he will play chech and Go with this monitor. So speed id not essential thing!
😂
Cheers mate! Which TV should I gift myself to christmas? 65" 120hz for around 1.000€
I love your content and I got a question , why you never talk about Eizo CG pro monitors ?!
Hi Vincent would you do a Flanders Scientific vs Sony review/test? Would be interesting to see what pros and cons there are for either when picking a reference monitor
The 120hz BFI function on OLED screens was the single biggest step forward in display technology for years. How could they ever cut this out? Sony is using 120hz BFI on their latest LCD TV's ilke the x95l. But theireis not a single side or Channel that tests this Feature in Detail. Meaning, how clean is it looking with a 120fps Game? Is it producing ghosting? How good is the precived sharpnes in motion compared to no BFI? How does BFI Impact Input lag?
I know that BFI reduces brightness, but I'm absolutely conVICE(N)T, that motion clarity is MUCH more important than higher brightness!
😂😂 I cannot use any kind of BFI
-A95L and- Philips 908 review please. Not enough content on this awesome channel.
We have reviewed the Sony A95L here: m.ua-cam.com/video/PgNuuQgE7Tk/v-deo.html
@@hdtvtest D'oh 🤦♂ apologies, and I've watched that video too (I watch all the videos on this channel). Suffering from modern brain tech stimulus overload.
I wish I had known you were in Japan - I'd like to buy you a drink and some yakitori as a thanks for all the advice you've given us over the years!
*So you’ve tested the PS5 Regular Bandwidth. Once the PS5 Pro variant comes out will you please test it?*
Hey Vincent, when will you review the TCL X955 and C955?
Have you consider making the fair comparison between Canon DP-V3120,Sony HX3110 and Sony HX310. note thant Canon DP-V3120 could deliver consistent 2000 nits in full screen mode.
Hey mate, Could you please help with a confusion I have. I am coming from an old TV. And looking at X90L and S90C. Both will be an upgrade for me. I don't change my TVs. I would like it to last for 7-8 years. Should I get the S90C and future-proof myself by getting an OLED screen? Or - since I watch good amount of low quality content, stick to X90L. For both devices, I am looking at 77" as am coming from 55". Price difference in my country works out to about 900$ more for going with S90C same size.
Good to know that even the professionals experience buyers remorse 😅
Such is life…full of regrets.
That's how it always goes with technology. What you buy this year will be replaced next year by a better, cheaper model.
tell that to nvidia (insert company of your choice)
That's why it's good getting the new best TV once every 6-8 years. To enjoy the awesome TV you got and then be more impressed 6-8 years later by the new one you get. For phones and other tech once every 4-5 years. Instead of getting the new best tech every year.
or you can go mid-range and upgrade every 4 years which is a more equilibrius approach, financially its probably a wash@@LueLucifer
Not always. If there’s a product you really want, get it while you can. I’ve seen things come and go over the decades, and not always for the better.
@@jarekstorm6331 Yeah, especially with Sony, every so many years there seems to be an exceptional, over-engineered model that they streamline for the following years' models...
Upgrade envy is a real thing Vincent. Just be happy with the reference monitor you have - none of us will notice.😀
Have they improved the red/magenta bias in the blacks?
There’s always someone with something better. Enjoy what you have, bros.
Hi Vincent @hdtvtest it’s nearly Black Friday. When is your tvshootout ? I know The Germans done a great job with it and great results and in America there was one done by some Sony biased Sony supplier similar to what Phillips does every year. Is there one this year from yourself ?
@DisplayNAudioTech: Our 2023 TV shootout had already been carried out under strict embargo. We're aiming to publish the result video just before Black Friday.
Well Vincent - time to sell your HX-310 and bust out the credit card!
Interesting that Sony is using some of the tech from their consumer line like wide angle filter.
That being said - if 65” X95L and 65” A80L were the same price, which would you buy? Which one matches the reference monitor closest with fewer upsetting compromises?
Oof, that's some nice upgrades. can the dolby pulsar do 4000nits full screen?
No.
Is it possible to do a review on the Hisense U8K?
hey man I have a Xiaomi 13 Ultra with a TCL panel. In the display settings there are some tweaks for the colour scheme. I wanted to ask if you could help me out with them? Thanks
How does the new Flanders Scientific 31.5” 1000nits UHD 12GSDI QD-OLED monitor stack up against your SONY BVM-HX310?
i can't wait for a Sony QD-OLED/Micro-led Mastering monitor.That thing is gonna be insane.
Triple layer qd OLED would be good
@@User9681eqd-oled needs only tp be 1 layer 😂
@@lolerie nah that’s false
it’s already burning easily and barely having full field nits even a Chinese phone old by far is better
So we need layers in qd oled
Brother if you had no budget what would be the best monitor for Xbox series X in order to achieve max refresh rate and have the lowest input. In order to have the best competitive edge on an Xbox series x possible and best picture possible. Do you think caping it at 1440p would be best or can the Xbox handle 4k 120hz consistently without a problem?
You often don't get to pick the output at a hardware level - you do on a Playstation though you only get to pick the rendering output if the game gives you the option otherwise it does dumb things like render at 4K and downscale it to 1440p. A Monitor play better with Sony stuff too as they have more compatibility with them including ultrawide (like on Death Stranding).
I feel your pain. This is how I feel when I buy a $20 blu ray and 6 months later the 4k version comes out for $25 haha
Vince you need to do a display review on the Steamdeck OLED.
Oh my god, you were at InterBEE?! I wish I could meet you
i thought you'd regret it for the blacker non professional one, what do use that for anyway, your pc? lol
How did you afford it in the first place?
Have fun in Hakone and the restaurant down the hill next to the small grocery shop has amazing fried chicken just as a FYI you should stop in for dinner its called kazamidori.
I didn’t skip the ads so that you can get some cash.
All 0.0000021 cents 😂
can you test out the beta patch for starfield's hdr on pc?
Ahh look, I spent £1000 on a Black Friday deal TV, which is a lot for me. It's already out of date, the second I bought it, it'll be obsolete next year and its likely going to break in 6-8 years and that's hoping 🤞
Same with a car, same with anything. My hobby is gaming and personally, is a great benefit to my mental health therefore I consider that needing it, my old tv broke and can't do without.
My point is, it doesn't matter, you cant take it with you anyway :)
In game's BT. 2020 or DCI-P3 ? Samsung s95b).
Nothing hits like like the first product refresh after buying expensive equipment
🙏🙏🙏 Please #Vincent can you make a video tutorial about *WINDOWS Color Management* and especially it's *HDR Implimentation* ?
even microsoft can't do this😂
@@mickeyneo4228 🤣🤣🤣
Wish Sony would make an incredible 4000nit dual layer LCD consumer TV - but I guess there are no economies of scale for that a reasonable price.
Yeah not possible on larger screen sizes at all.
By the time they do that the modular micro-led displays like the Samsung Wall and LG Magnet will be affordable for us mere mortals >.
@@SimplySketchyGT I'm not sure it's that much better than the latest OLEDs because I believe the micro LEDs also have a distracting abl.
this is because of energy consumption and not burning, but this is already the case on oled (the abl is for consumption and not burning)
will be excellent tv but i think not pêrfect.
carful, before oled come everybody told will be the perfect tv too (i remember everybody think oled have no burn when compare with plasma, in real plasma was 100x stronger than first oled)
Would probaly cost over 100k
Unfortunately power regulations for TVs put a stop to that.
I am happy with my LG C9 and will keep it till C19 comes.
for sure oled tech will die much earlier :)
Ey thats me every time i hold out on buying something until it goes on sale and then the new one releases right after
But on the plus side it’s slightly nice to know that even the master Vincent gets buyer remorse and FOMO😂. Makes the anxiousness of buying a new tv a little lower.
Is it time for a Flanders QDOLED mastering monitor? ;)
nope.The Flanders QD OLED isn't bright enough. It's more like an casual OLED with Displayport.
Doesn't Flanders also have an LMCL display
@@raiyankhanmajlis6112 yes top flanders and other top mastering are all dual layer lcd ips
What, nooo! you should be able to do something about it and get the new one!
Sony should offer trade ins for such niche products
Panasonic you never regret . World best electronic and environment products. Panasonic for life ❤👑.
eugh
Does it have ATW polarizer to avoid white glare typical for IPS matrix.🤔
hx310 is still better for content up to 1000 nits with its near per pixel local dimming and no viewing angle compensation filter that causes blur (no matter how good it is). Though 4000 nits is 4000 nits, the trade off for someone like you is well worth it.. but you will miss hx310 if you sell it. This is all based on the information you've provided here.
Is BFI on the HX3110 just 60hz or variable refresh at higher frequencies?
Come on Sony, give the man the new monitor!
shoulda bought some B-T-C (trying to avoid spambots) instead vincent. 🤑
Thanks for the video though, I hope you get your hands on one of these monsters soon.
I knew where this was going 1 second after seeing it
We know the dual layer monitor is a work in progress, thinking about the megacon demo, so don't complain about it.
just be grateful what u have,,,,
Does the X310 and X3110 have the same 1000 nits fullscreen brightness?
From what Sony reps told us at IBC, yes.
It just means you're going to have 2 reference monitors
This was part of sneak preview for 2024 Sony TV in which new tech will be a game changer for Sony
You don't really regret it do you? I mean, the newer model did not exist until now so it was the only option and you made damn good use of it whilst it was the only option, right?
I have a feeling you'll take these words back once you spend a day with that monitor
I have not had channel notifications from this channel for over a year now !
Is it because he's publishing shorts as main videos for some reason.
Maybe it confused the UA-cam systems
找Sony要求屏幕更換升級和重新調教電路或者賣舊買新。
MicroLED reference monitors when?
Crazy how much an extra 1 in the name can add to peak brightness
Wouldnt it make sense to lease such a product isntead of buying it?
Why refrence monitors are LCD and not something better such as OLEDs? LCD don't have perfect blacks, does that include refrence monitors?
dual layer lcd have seperate lcd layers for monochrome and colour which allows them to get much closer to true black than a typical lcd. theyre still used in reference monitors because current oleds cant get bright enough for hdr mastering.
Nice to see that even Vincent experiences fomo lol
It’s served you so well tho.
I’ll give you a tenner for the old one Vincent
How many dimming zones does it have? More than 2000?
Depends on which resolution the monochrome layer has ... in case of enhanced FHD resolution (the most probable type / 2,048 x 1,080) there are 2,211,840 zones ... in case of a 4K monochrome layer it will be 8,847,360 zones (4,096 x 2,160)
As long as I got a good 3-4yrs of the technology product I bought before a new version comes out, I never have buyers remorse.
I thought you said you got it used for 10K or something like that when you first got it?
We never said that.
How much you want for it?
This is me considering spending only $1000 on a tv right now lol
I suggest going a little higher to $1200-$1500. You can get a high-end 55-65 inch TV for that price that's about 6-12 months old and it'll be way better than anything recently released for those prices. I paid €1500 for my 65 in Z9F about 6 months after it released for €3600, for example.
@@thenonexistinghero Over 1000 is way too much for a tv these days,Better to wait for sales a year and a half later
@@Jza-GZa Then you're going to be stuck with a mid-end TV at best. The high-end ones don't go much lower than $1000 new for roughly 55-65 inch because almost no store even offers them anymore after a year or 2.
Hello Vincent,please respond, I have an lg oled.I saw your video on fine tune dark areas option from a year ago but it didn’t help me much.When playing on PS5 with VRR on,should you put FTDA setting on 0 or between -3to -5?
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i am never regretting this asus 240hz oled
Vincent DOWN BAAAAAAD 😭😭💀💀
But what about using this with that 12" portable dvd player you don't have? 😂
I game on one of these
how does call of duty look on it?
No sense in regretting it. It was the best at the time. Now, there's something better which will always be the case.
Nice glasses
Tiktok portrait video style... not nice. But great video, as always.
Curious why Sony didn't make a QD OLED mastering monitor like Flanders Scientific but with all the cooling and power from the chassis of the BVMHX310.
Do these monitors play both vhs and blu ray?
While they have HDMI input, you'd only use them with SDI. It's a pro standard.
Just look out the window that is the best reference you will get.
Go get one feller just pass the cost onto the customers….love the glasses….
I regret subscribing to this channel, I don't even have a TV and now all I think about is local dimming, max luminance, ambient light reflection and peak brightness in a 10% window.
I think you'll gonna have to keep your yukata at hand.