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Bending a 1/4 Inch Top For Kevin's Maple Top Strat
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- Опубліковано 21 січ 2019
- We got a special request from our good buddy and Master Machinist "Brain Surgery Kevin" for a maple top, left handed Super Strat. He wanted us to use a 1/4 inch top (that's .25 for machinists) and bend the top over the forearm contour. In this video we show y'all one of the ways that we do that. Let's face it, it is much cooler than just cutting off the top on that contoured section. Want to see?
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Always a place for some room or even bend it and now👍
Interesting !! cant wait to see the progress on this.
Thanks for watching amigo these left handed guitars are tricky for my old brain hahaha
Learn something new with every video, thanks Matt
Thanks for watching Stu, glad to hear you are enjoying the videos
wen i made mine i used a half maple half mahogany in the hopes of capturing the les paul warmth, i debated using this method but i think the thicker cap sounds better with the old wood i had reclaimed from some antique furniture, the mahogany came from an Italian desk that was made in the 1700s that was beyond repair, the desk top was perfect for what i needed, the top was rescued from an old blanket trunk made in the 1850s in America, it just made sense to use as much of the maple as possible to brighten up the top end while the back calmed down the mids a tad, its still spanky but its got balls just like a les paul, but with the chime of a 62 strat! its the best sounding rig ive ever played!
Sounds like a neat guitar Joe
I just did a similar thing. Made a teledyne style tele and put a 1/4 top on. So I cut relief slots on back side of the top but started 1/2 " in and ended a 1/2" from other edge. I wanted a natural binding. It worked out perfect. That 1/2 around the top bent fine with no relief slots.
Nice, I like the natural binding too
Love the screws idea. once glued just router and sand the rest away. Will be trying that on my tele build. hard part is choosing the wood now. planning a thin line with a tele bridge pickup and a gretsch style pickup in the neck (because I have one). How thick would a thin line top be?
Is Magic!!! Love your videos Mr Toast, i would love to see install a floyd rose sometime, i learn a lot seeing you...
Hi Julian,
We will be installing a Floyd on this very guitar
@@TexasToastGuitars cool Toast...
Thanks Matt great tip take it easy
Thanks for watching Kev, have a great week brotherman
Hell Yeah! You cannot ever have enough clamps but.... Having enough screws is a completely different armadillo. Glad ai found your channel today.
I'm glad you did too David, thanks for watching and I'm glad to hear you are digging the videos brotherman
Great tip! I like the screws much better than a ton of clamps!👍😎🎸🎶
We have used the screws in place of clamps for several years now and it works great. I probably got the idea from Norm Abrams hahaha. It is certainly much easier to move around than a guitar with 25 pounds of clamps too.
@@TexasToastGuitars for sure! I think next time I'll use the screws. Awesome tip!👍😎🎸🎶
Glad you mentioned not cutting the 1/8" lines all the way to hide them, because I thought you just went for it and I gotta say, I was kids terrified! But having a burst makes sense not worrying about it. Gonna try screws to clamp down my top on my current guitar. Having the Forrest of clamps isn't appealing to me!
Well this guitar will have binding so I did go all the way to the edge, there will be a few lines to hide but that will be a snap. I try to share a few ways of doing the same job. We have used the screws in place of clamps for several years now and it works great. I probably got the idea from Norm Abrams hahaha
Plus a box of screws is about the same money as one clamp
Good one👍
Thanks my friend
Love the screws! Great idea.
We have been using the screws in place of clamps for several years now and it works great. One of the best things is about this method is how easy it is to move the body since it isn't loaded up with 20 pounds of clamps.
@@TexasToastGuitars I would think you'd still want to put a clamp in the middle
Best way to bend the top. What works for speaker cabinets, works here as well. Good job! If you use big washers and screws with flat heads, the circular distributed pressure of each screw will overlap more. You get away with less screws that way. Maybe a waste of time, maybe helpful for delicate tops or different material. See you at NAMM.
I'm just kidding. You don't need that. Have fun in Vegas and think of me when you shoot some things in the desert.
Hey homes,
I try to share a few ways of doing the same job. We have used the screws in place of clamps for several years now and it works great. I probably got the idea from Norm Abrams hahaha
We are really looking forward to the NAMM show stay tuned for pictures on Instagram etc. I just talked to Jim in Vegas and we got some good stuff planned.
Very cool. I like the screws for clamps, brilliant! I used the kerf trick years ago before I was into guitar building for bending a corner on a cabinet I was building. Works great. So are you binding or bursting?
Hey brotherman,
We have used the screws in place of clamps for several years now and it works great. I probably got the idea from Norm Abrams. I think in this instance it is the simplest way to go for a top of this thickness. The vacuum bag would have worked well but that's a lot of gear to drag out.
I can't remember if Kevin wants binding or a burst.
I'm probably missing something, like smarts, but I'm very curious to see how you put binding on the forearm contour. I hope there is a part 2 video.
Hi Scott, we have done a few videos about that very topic here is one...ua-cam.com/video/sljb3JPa-UQ/v-deo.html
I think there will be a few more videos on this guitar project so stay tuned
I got a little frightened there.. it looked like the belt was gonna walk off the sander..
That damn thing has a mind of it's own! One day I'll buy a new edge sander but I kinda like fighting these old machines... it's my thing hahaha
"That looks... not as good."
Understatement of the decade. This looks great BTW.
Thanks for watching Douglas, I am not a fan of the chopped off top even on those funky 6 string, neck though basses hahaha
how come we never see Mrs. Texas Toast in the video's
If you had a burl piece and needed to stabilize with resin, do you stabilize before or after gluing to the contour?
This method is really cost effective. I dont have to buy lots of clamp. Thanks for sharing
You're welcome
Cool Matt. I assume making a lefty, you can just flip your templates. What about the neck profile; can you go over that in a neck video?
You bet on both points. We can do lots of custom stuff with the dead-head sander.
Great video as usual. Look up Fletcher Handcrafted Guitars. He does this with a vacume bag. Keep on keeping on!
Id love for him to put out new content. Just bought a T style template from him, just to throw him some support (and well I needed one)
Hi Rodney,
I love that guy, he is really smart and a great guitar maker. I try to share a few ways of doing the same job. We have used the screws in place of clamps for several years now and it works great. Last time I did this I used a vacuum bag and the comment section was loaded with stuff like "What do I do if I don't have an expensive vacuum bag?" hahaha
Thanks for watching brotherman
Have you sent him an email about topics you want to see videos about?
@@TexasToastGuitars he hasn't made a video in years and just assumed that wasn't his jam anymore to do them. Love the beginning to end builds. All bout the journey man! Try to hit you guys up for a body blank sometime in a month or two :)
I used to work in a custom woodshop in S Denver that had about ten bench carpenters always competing for limited clamps. "So how many clamps does a woodshop really need? MORE!" Creative screw-clamping methods can solve a lot of that problem. What's a clamp anyway but a screw with pressure surfaces?
We have tried all kinds of techniques this one in this video works... okay.
These days we have that big floor press deal and it works great!
Great tip Matt ! Thanks man. I have question.. where do you buy the maple tops please ? Maybee the import taxes are doable.
I can't remember where that top came from. Have you called Dan at Guitar Wood Experts? I think he has some swanky looking maple right now. Have a great week my friend
@@TexasToastGuitars Thanks for the reply Matt ! I'll take a look at the website. Have a good week also buddy !
Matt You Rule****** & Hello Mrs.Toast
Thanks for watching my friend
For the top to affect the tone, like a basswood body to make it brighter with maple top, it must be 1/4" thick?
I would think so
I would personally attach the top to the bottom but to my forward thinking that might be backwards!???
Vundabar! That is a great way to do it, except you built it upside down! (snicker)
It is hard on my tiny brain to make a left handed guitar. BTW... we haven't seen any left handed guitars yet at the NAMM show
I love necrobumping videos.
I'm surprised you didn't rock an angle grinder to take the meat off the contour first, than the other tools.
We pretty much use the dead-head sander for all that stuff now
Oh man by the look of the end grain of this one piece Alder, if this piece of wood will have a mind of it's own and decides to move south,
we'll end up with a nice concave Parker guitar LOL.
That is the price you pay for looking cool. Actually I'm not all that worried
I’m just wondering why you did not thickness the alder blank first so you would not have to do all that compensating of where the arm carve starts... and its depth... seems a bit awkward.
It sure is
looks like a "new yankee" way of clamping ... love the videos and the commentary ... two thumbs up !!!
Thanks for watching Barry, glad to hear you are enjoying the videos. I try to share a few ways of doing the same job. We have used the screws in place of clamps for several years now and it works great. I probably got the idea from Norm Abrams hahaha
Wow! Who is singing that song at 3:54? Love it
That is my good buddies Tokyo Rodeo
the relief grooves you put all the way across the top to make the bend has me wondering how are you gonna hide them from the side view or are you gonna bind the edge.
Thanks for watching, I can't remember if Kevin wants to bind this or burst it. Stay tuned for more videos to see how it goes amigo
if you burst it or bind it, what reason for the 1/4" rather using 1/8 top. and you are going to have to add filler. to me that doesn't make any sense, and P.S. leave us Machinist alone, we know what we are doing and we know how to use tools. @@TexasToastGuitars
@@gonzo5912 You are right, but I am not a machinist so I 'll wager I do a lot of things that wouldn't make sense to you. I hope we can still be friends
I gotcher back Friend. @@TexasToastGuitars
Hey Matt, was that (Dremel) bit the same one you’d use to rout the slot for a Fender style switch?
It actually was... well until I broke that one and had to switch it out to another 1/16 bit hahaha
Just a standard bit will work great I probably should have used a 1/8 bit and just gone for it with a larger router. The Dremel worked well though
Texas Toast Guitars I really enjoy seeing how you solve some pretty tricky challenges!
I'm still trying to figure out how to rout those pesky Fender switch slots. (I already got a 1/16 bit).
I have one to do after I get back from the NAMM show. I'll make a video for you
Texas Toast Guitars Thank you! You rock like ten men. 👍
Tite-bond and sawdust to hide the kerf cuts at the bend ? The burst will hide a multitude of sins. Can't wait for the next installment.
Hi Kent,
I can't remember if Kevin wants binding or a burst. In the next video we will talk about hiding the cuts with binding or wood filler.
Have a great week brotherman
Im on instagram now @aevoguitars. 💃👍
Guitar is kind of left handed instrument if we consider where it requires the most dexterity. Realistically a lefty should naturally have dexterity the rest of us must learn. Maybe. Lol
Agreed it is kinda strange isn't it
So I take it that wood filler will be added to the kerf after the roundover? Then that is hid by the burst? And just curious, what roundover do you use? 7/16ths?
I'm not really sure what Kevin wants, we will make more videos and bring everyone up to speed
If it's gonna be bound anyway you will never see that it's 1/4 rather than 1/8. I don't get why you need to go to the trouble. If it's NOT gonna be bound, the relief slots cut in the glue surface/back of the top will show at the outer edge of the body. What'supwidat? BTW, even if I'm questioning, I still really like your content and so that's why I'm subbed.
Be careful when using a weenie roller near a screw hole. #themoreyouknow
No doubt, I covers up all the pre-drilled holes with glue and had to scramble to get the screws in the right spots. Insert hilarious "can't find the right hole" gag here hahaha
For the top to affect the tone, like a basswood body to make it brighter with maple top, it must be 1/4" thick?
That's what I would think too