If you preorder then you might as well get it since you get the credit. However I see little benefit to purchasing the 45w charger separately especially if you are coming from an older Samsung phone and already have the 25w charger
I went from a 15w charger to a 25w charger and saw a 20 min difference definitely happy with my purchase and I love the 20 min cut down time makes a huge difference.
I had a 10 watt charger that toke 2 hours and 9 mins. Just got the 25 watt samsung charger for 15 bucks on Amazon and now it only takes an hour an 9 mins to charge. Definitely worth it💯. And Definitely not worth spending 40 bucks on the 45 watt charger.
25w compared to 45w doesn't even make that big of a difference, only 10 minutes max. Your 15w charger was probably just fake and was a regular slow 5v charger. Most pd chargers are 20w minimum, so 15w already sounds like a made up number for a fast charger.
@@flyingtentacle7631 my 15w charger came with my s10+ thank you very much so i dont believe that samsung would give me a fake 15w charger and the 25w charger that i bought is also from samsung. i will say tho enabling super fast charging makes my 25w charger go all the way to 37w which is insane (I only know this cause when i was on holiday i plugged in my charger into a powerbrick that has a plug socket and the output said 37w) plus my dad spent like 200-300 in that power brick which also has solar panels to then recharge the powerbrick it's pretty awesome the power brick/bank is the jackery explorer 240 portable power station
@@flyingtentacle7631 bruh the S10+ came out in 2019 that was when iPhones where stuck on 5w charging and a lot of androids still shipped with 15w charging however 25w charging was starting to become a thing with the S10 5G which was the first Samsung device to support 25w's. 15w charging I believe came with the s8 then s9 and S10 and it's been around for a long time at least on Android phones. Now apple has only supported 2 types of Charing 5w and 20w so obviously if you have only used an iPhone you would call 15w charging fake because iPhones have never had that speed before. 15w charging has been around for a long ass time and it's still used on midrange phones and budget phones since it uses usb2.0 port and type A to type C instead of usb c to usb c. Maybe next time do some research before making up bullshit like 15w charging Is fake.
After a phone is charged to 80%, no matter how fast the charger is, the charge will relatively slow down. That is why the gap was reduced between 80% and 88%. Because the 45-watt charger had crossed the 80% mark and had reduced its speed, while the 25watt charger was pumping full juice till it reached 80%. Also, the 45-watt charger is significantly better if you want to top up enough for the phone to run for the day or half a day at least while you have a shower. That charging speed for the first 60% matters the most, and that is where there is a clear advantage. I know the end result showed that it was only 8 minutes, but just want you to realise, that 8 minutes is a really, really long time. The ideal speed test for a charger should be done from 15% to 80%. That is where the 45-watt charger will shine. Also, thanks for the information about the thicker chord needed in the 45-watt charger! I had no idea about it. You saved me a lot of money lol.
The 45W doesn't charge 45/25 times as fast as the 25W one, but it's still noticeably faster in the middle ranges. It's the cost difference or situational utility that would determine which I would purchase. The 45W was about £9 more or something when I bought it so thought to give it a shot, and not disappointed.
USB C and charger protocol like PPS, PD 3.0 here. Phone comunicate the best power they need and power brick bring that just need power. The output charge 45 watt, 75 watt just peak power maximum but if the battery almost full. Big juice in small space that battery for electron can't accept that power and temp. So the power peak lower if battery almost full to protect battery.
@@Invertedzero When I use app Ampere to test the charging current for my 25w charger, I got 4200mA. That's much higher than the advertised up to 3A current. What's the charging current for 45w charger?
The only time you would even get that slight boost is if you let your phone drain below 15%. Anything more then that and it only charges around 22 watts.
Can you do another charging test where the charging starts when phones have just entered power saving mode (15% battery)?! Because I believe that is how most of the people actually charge their phone! Another real world yet reasonable factor added to the test!
@@afiqaFaT Yeah! Because if you're saying that the output drops to 29W after 25%, the difference would be 10% and 15W and then 4W thereafter! Doubt it'd be much!
I have a Nissan Leaf and it will charge very slowly if allowed to drop below 15%. But charge it at 30 or 40% and it will charge faster than all get out. Yes, I agree. Rerun the test starting out at higher percentages
I am more interested in heat during charging. I know that heat is the battery killer. I would imagine that slightly faster speed is not worth the degradation of that lithium ion battery. I would be interested to hear how much that shortened the life of that battery. It won't be a small difference. I would guess that using the phone while charging GREATLY increases heat. This is why they don't allow the fast charging while using it. Smart honestly.
batteries are rated to last minimum 800 charges and remain above 80% capacity. That is the industry standard. Modern phones will throttle charging wattage to keep the temps in check If you change your phone every 2-3 years, you don't have to worry about battery degradation.
Well 8T uses dual battery design. So 65 watt divided by 2 battery 32.5 watt each. Its not hot while charging. Previous versions already used 30watt. It doubled that in 2020.
Every samsung phones can only take 25w charging whatever the charger power. If you plug your samsung on a 100w charger it will still charge at 25w. This is why the difference is so tiny between 25w and 45w charger.
The first useful comparison i see in the internet Just 8 minutes difference that is not worth it of course I can use my old 25 w charger if that is the case
I noticed almost the same thing when charging. I took my phone down to 15% charge and never say more then 30w. Most of the time it stayed around 22w. While I'm fine with the charging time, I think Samsung should be held accountable for their lie. Lots of people will spend their money on 45w+ chargers because of Samsung's lie.
@@aliendroneservices6621 I don't think that is correct but since this post it appears that Samsung limits the charging wattage on all but a brand new charger that they are just releasing. If that is correct.... kind of shitty to advertise a phone that will charge at 45 watts... but it won't with any 45 watt charger except one that will be released.
I see the benefits in the 45w for travelers. If I'm out and about all day and come back to the hotel to change or shower, etc. for a dinner event, or even in times where I simply have just 10-15 minutes to get ready for my evening, the 45w charger will shine more there. HOnestly, both work fine as I do this now with a 25w charger but now that I'm out to buy a new / another one, I'm going to pick one up and keep it and the thicker cable in my bag.
yeah all comparison so far doesn't make a distinction. perhaps the new charger actually charges it faster? i know that it's actually coming out in a few weeks though
@Kaban Galeri Yeah I think so too. It should be different from than previous one. Otherwise it doesn't make any sense for Samsung to support 45W again if its the same.
@@IndianGagdgetGuy the problem is no one from samsung clarifies this issue, they are getting a loy of bad press lately especially with the ltpo blunder on the s22 and s22 plus
Just asking, because I recently discovered in Andriod 12 that some of my superfast wired charging and fast wireless charging had settings and I had most of them off. How that happened, not sure. But result was wireless and fast wireless charging were the same. Until I enabled them. Pushing charge into batteries tends to reduce thier life so even the superfast modes moderate chagring rare near a fully charged state or as mentioned in comments when warm. Any chance you didn't have the newer faster charging enabled on the phones?
I currently have a 15w one to my s8, so the 45w will be a huge jump, even if it’s more like 30w, perks of stretching old hardware I also think 0-50 is more important for fast characters, if you have 75% you don’t need to emergency charge, like you might at 5%
I don't regret buying a 45w charger, 'cause their purpose are different. I use the 25w that came in tha box to charge at night, when I won't need the phone for hours, and the 45w to a quick refuel in the middle of the day. A bonus point: my 45w charger has a 1.80m cable.
Superfast charging 2.0 is not working on my S22 ultra. I have a 65W PPS charger which is able to charge my galaxy tab S7+ at 2.0 but for some reason it is only able to charge my phone at Superfast charging (and not at 2.0). Settings are turned on. Does anyone know what's the issue?
Samsung is using proprietary charger for their devices, the fast charging won't work if you using different charger brand(or not listed in their official supported fast charger) and vice versa
@@kton3613 would the 45w charger from spigen work? I've seen people getting the super fast charging 2.0 with it, that's why I'm unsure of what's gonna happen with my Xiaomi charger. As long as it's fast charging I'm cool with it.
Phone makers are still struggling at charging batteries from 0 to 100% at full speed without damaging the cells. 62 minutes to fully charge a 5000 mAh battery is already a great outcome. and 15 minutes to get 32% of charge sounds great to me.
@@DENVEROUTDOORMAN actually they don't. I use Xiaomi and Samsung phone, regularly and Xiaomi phones maintain their battery health just as long as Samsung does and I use 120W charging on my Xiaomi, every single day.
This is basically the same result like in 2019 with Note 10 as in the 45W is only slightly quicker than the 25W. Even after years, Samsung still have that Note 7 phobia and just playing it safe for now. Can't blame them though since getting more than 50% in 30 minutes is pretty good. Can't beat the Chinese phones crazy charging speed though.
I think there is a difference in technology also! Samsung, Apple and Google use li-ion and xiaomi, oneplus use li-po. Li-po can take much more current to charge very fast, but it degrades much faster also. I still use 1A(5W) charger to charge trough the night and fast charger only in emergency situations.
@@kona328WH Yeah I bought this charger yesterday from Amazon and when tested on my current S20 Ultra it would only charge at Superfast and not 2.0 so in effect, it would only reach 25w. So I sent it back. I've now ordered the Anker 45w to test, before my S22 Ultra arrives.
Charging rate depends on the battery temperature and the state of charge. It depends on how Samsung implements that. Also, even if it can charge at 1C (45W), it might have been limited to 0.9C. Also the maximum charge rate might be when the battery temperature is at 25C-35C and less than 50%, that is why you see lesser speeds while gaming. Guess Samsung is taking care of the battery health.
Can you confirm if you used the new 45W brick or the old one please? The new TP-4510 is said to address some of the throttling issues with the older one.
Hi, Once in a while I charge my phones via USB multimeter (USB OLED display tester J7-4T) on the same charging voltage/same charger so I can see the deterioration going on in my batteries/phones/etc. So, my old Galaxy S7 flat (3000mAh battery) when it was about a half a year old it could take slightly over 2100mAh, few days ago and yesterday (as I repeat the test for more reliability) it can take only just above 1500mAh. My Galaxy s20 with battery stated 4000mAH it can take just over 2000mAh- I do not know how much it could take when device was new as I bought it used. IMHO no app can tell you more and better than this kind of test. If I'm wrong correct me guys ;) Can you do some tests this way- with USB multimeter- for brand new phones and then compare it with used (a year or two) same phones? What do you think?
You should learn more about what happens when battery gets to above 80%. But of course you don't and just continue crying about it. Also you should only charge to around 80-85%. Your phone has setting you can enable to do that. Why? Because of reason you don't want to learn about.
@@edwts Wrong. It will charge exactly at speed battery tells it to. You're yet another whining karen who who refuses to learn how charging and more precisely fast charging works and why it doesn't every time.
I love my S22 ultra but it's annoying that it takes an hour to charge. My last mobile was Oppo Find X2 Pro and it charged in about an 32 minutes and Oppo included the brick in the box too. Why is Samsung behind in this area ???
@@Moon222 My s22 ultra didn't come with a charger either so I'm using my 65 watt supervooc Oppo charger and it takes about an hour and half to charge from 0% to 100%. Fast charging is a big thing when choosing a mobile and i can honestly say that I'm regretting buying my s22 ultra. Best phone money can buy and I'm really disappointed with it in so many ways.
Since my last comment, I've recently bought the 45 watt Samsung charger and it's considerably better than the 25 watt Samsung charger. Only paid 25 quid for it too. It's definitely worth paying the little extra for the 45 watt instead of the 25 watt. However, they are still half the speed of my old Oppo Find X2 Pro with its 65 watt SuperVooc charger which comes in the box.
Honestly. I'm sticking with the 25 watt because there is not really to much of a difference. Now if that was a 100 watt wall charger "which I don't expect to see until the next ultra or even 2 after that" that is when it's going to really matter but for now personally I would stick the 25 watt.
Some of the information towards the end of this video is a bit misleading. The way charging phones works, especially with higher wattage chargers, is basically based on how full the battery is. As batteries get more full, charging speeds/wattages drop. This is inevitable. If you were to create a graph of battery percentage x charger wattage, you would see a consistent drop off or diminishing returns of wattage as battery percentage increases. This is true for any charger of any wattage. I do completely agree that 45W charging is at best a nice to have over a 25 watt charger, given the small real gains, but the majority of the advantage you will see comes from the lower percentage charging (say, charging from 0-50%), given those battery percentages are where you will actually be able to achieve the higher wattage values. It's not that samsung or any other company is lying per se about the charging speeds or power outputs, but more accurately that the science behind chargers and batteries restricts them in this way. For now, this is how batteries and charging is limited, and until entirely new technology comes along, this is how it will be.
Using a battery with a higher Watt too often will just accelerate the damage to the phone battery. Since the very old age, Companies tend to lie to customers when it comes to Number. Besides, it's understandable that technically most companies usually play safe, in which the capabilities of their electric device products wont be boosted and optimalized to the top level they actually can reach to avoid early damage of the device. Fortunately, that can make the device last longer.
At start, it showed the time difference to 100% being 8 minutes so you only need the "better" charger if you need a quick top-up but otherwise, meh. No VooC charge
The chinese use dual cell batteries, so it can top up in a safe pace. ie, if it's a 4000mah cell with 120w charge, it's cell is split into 2k each and charged at 60w per side.
The graph around 4:30 was kind of misleading showing the showing inequal gaps of time equally spaced out I know it's meant to show the difference between the two but it makes it look like the fastest charging happened in the middle.
This is so disappointing when compare to OnePlus. Samsung gotta pick up their charging game, advertising for 45w charge and does it at 42. They promote their car wireless charger as "power up with quickness - 9w" lmao hope it doesn't fool people. I pre ordered this from the OnePlus 7 pro...hope I don't regret this switch.
@@gjna5143 I don't believe so, new and old will have the same capability. Samsung is too conservative with charging technology due to the Note 7 💥, very disappointing.
@@gjna5143 how did you find out the charge time from 0 to 100% in 45 minutes, that sound too quick for any Samsung device (their fear of another explosion).
Second note. I think samsung doesnt utilize the super fast charge like oneplus simply to save battery life expectancies. Lithium doesnt like to be fast charged all the time. It will fail sooner if continuously charging fast. They need a "trickle" charge to save its life expectancy.
Your exactly right, and it was obvious from the beginning, two of the biggest phone brands are using low charge speed compared to others. They can copy it if they wanted to, but iPhones and the galaxy s series are known to last years on end without any issues, and it seems they want to keep it that way.
It’s not much of a difference with Galaxy phones, idk why. I don’t believe the Galaxy phones actually use 45W because if you charge a Xiaomi phone with 60W then you’ll see it charge by mere seconds, in less than 200 seconds you’ll go from 0% to 100%. So it’s impossibly that a Galaxy supposedly has 45W charging capabilities yet it takes over an hour for it to charge from 0 to 100? Nah, something ain’t right.
I have a charger from my S8 Plus, I used this charger on my new S22 Ultra, battery on 50% 21 minutes later 100% - When I connected the S22 Ultra a message popped up, if I wanted to select regular or fast charging; I selected fast charging, not too shabby 50% in 21 minutes.
45 w is better in gaming experience, while you gaming and charging phone in same time it will produce less heat and will be more comfortable while playing while 25 w will have more pressure on it. My opinion
thanks I continue with my 25w charger since the truth is that the big change is in the first half hour, from there plus 10 minutes of difference I better continue with the 25w one thanks you made me save money
Nice & detailed informative video. Thank You! 🙂👍🏻🙏🏼 I pre-ordered S22-U and asked for 45W Charger offline. Lucky me, it wasn't available in Samsung Store, so I decided to buy the cheaper but competitive 25W battery.
So the 45W is 20% more than 25W. Clearly they’re WAY overselling this, and the 45W charger isn’t being used for much at all. Borderline scam. It’s a 30W charger in reality.
I find this crazy how guy at Verizon store was trying to sell me 45w charger telling me that if I used 25w it will kill my battery when I bought S22..... I only use original Samsung 25w chargers... I have like 5 of them.. I paid all this money for original Samsung charges for my Note 10+ and he telling me that I have to replaced them all with 45w..... yeah right!....
I charge my phone through PC USB for years, less than 5W!😅 Though I find fast charging useful on devices for the kids, they cant be trusted with cables or chargers
Samsung claims that s21u supports 25W fast charge， but actually ，when you're using a pd charger that supports 3A PPS，the maximum charging speed can go up to 27W and it maintains the speed until the phone is charged up to about 70-80% ，this is interesting
The ONLY channel that does DEEP DIVES into the S22Ultra ! All the other big channels seem to shun the truth .. All doing the same lame reviews with an unboxing, show the device (we have seen it a 1000 times), detail camera testing and then a game or 2 and maybe a quick benchmark, that's it ... People want to know True performance True reallife battery stamina And real comparisons ! It's remarkable how 'soft' the other channels are and none of them seem to want to ay anything bad about this device .....
Samsung is the gift that keeps on giving for YT creators, a conveyor belt of cash on every release; so we get something out of the Twilight Zone where they obfuscate anything that is not so great. Stuff like no AV1 support on media streaming on the SD8G1 when the Exynos 2100 had it in the S21U! The chips can handle that codec with ease as Samsung shows, yet no feedback to Qualcomm to get support? Do not want to upset Qualcomm and the free trips to their showcases! YT is the place for technical comparisons, to question decisions, but it seems it is more about pleasing the clients, be it Samsung/Qualcomm fans or the businesses!
Sergio Casino You're kidding me right? There are TONS of channels who reviewed S22 series and some of them pointed a couple of issues (mainly battery life). Do you live in North Korea or something? You only have access to 2 channels? Or are you just crappy at searching? You're also gullible. This video uses the OLD Samsung 45w charger which was already known to have issues. This video should also test the newest Samsung 45W charger then make their conclusions. Why test new hardware with old hardware? Test new hardware with new hardware that came out at the same time. Just shows this channel doesn't know how to properly test things. Do us all and yourself a favor and do your research before spewing garbage for everyone to see.
@@HDGuy001 Name me 3 million + subs channels that went into detail about the battery life and real performance. Saying that you got through the day is not enough. That doesn't say shit. A proper test of anything is a video on itself and not just showing a benchmark after doing a 10 minute unbox and talking about the camera. Again, show me a channel that shows an extensive batterytest of the Exy 2200 and 8gen1 so we can compare.
@@Roomer645 I'm assuming you're an adult right? You don't know how to search yourself? Deep Dive? Real comparisons? How many tests did he do? ONE test recording the charging time? How many chargers did he use? 2 Samsung chargers? What about chargers from other companies? What about chargers without PD? What about chargers that are > 45W? Chargers < 25W? What about comparing Exynos and Snapdragon charging times? The list goes on and on in addition to using the OLD 45W charger instead of the new one! Like I was saying before he did NOT TEST PROPERLY and left out important information that will confuse viewers. Also as you can see from the comments below many people are saying there's no point using the 45w charger which means the damage is already done. Others are telling him to test using the newer charger. So you think it's OK to mislead the public when a channel did not present all the information? PS - It takes time to thoroughly test everything and some channels just do an initial first look. Not to mention soon after release date, sometimes Samsung will push out their final software updates.
Double power charger and 8 min difference hahahahahahahah
11% difference at 30 mins is nice tbh. You get almost 70% with a 30 min charge. I got my 45W charger free regardless lol
Loved those "early bird" specials. 👍😎
@@MrCaribe65 exactly lol
For me it was out of stock you lucky
If you preorder then you might as well get it since you get the credit. However I see little benefit to purchasing the 45w charger separately especially if you are coming from an older Samsung phone and already have the 25w charger
@Darren Rice yep, that's why I picked up the 45w charger although I already have a 25w.🤣
I went from a 15w charger to a 25w charger and saw a 20 min difference definitely happy with my purchase and I love the 20 min cut down time makes a huge difference.
I had a 10 watt charger that toke 2 hours and 9 mins. Just got the 25 watt samsung charger for 15 bucks on Amazon and now it only takes an hour an 9 mins to charge. Definitely worth it💯. And Definitely not worth spending 40 bucks on the 45 watt charger.
25w compared to 45w doesn't even make that big of a difference, only 10 minutes max. Your 15w charger was probably just fake and was a regular slow 5v charger. Most pd chargers are 20w minimum, so 15w already sounds like a made up number for a fast charger.
@@flyingtentacle7631 my 15w charger came with my s10+ thank you very much so i dont believe that samsung would give me a fake 15w charger and the 25w charger that i bought is also from samsung. i will say tho enabling super fast charging makes my 25w charger go all the way to 37w which is insane (I only know this cause when i was on holiday i plugged in my charger into a powerbrick that has a plug socket and the output said 37w) plus my dad spent like 200-300 in that power brick which also has solar panels to then recharge the powerbrick it's pretty awesome the power brick/bank is the jackery explorer 240 portable power station
@@flyingtentacle7631 bruh the S10+ came out in 2019 that was when iPhones where stuck on 5w charging and a lot of androids still shipped with 15w charging however 25w charging was starting to become a thing with the S10 5G which was the first Samsung device to support 25w's. 15w charging I believe came with the s8 then s9 and S10 and it's been around for a long time at least on Android phones. Now apple has only supported 2 types of Charing 5w and 20w so obviously if you have only used an iPhone you would call 15w charging fake because iPhones have never had that speed before. 15w charging has been around for a long ass time and it's still used on midrange phones and budget phones since it uses usb2.0 port and type A to type C instead of usb c to usb c. Maybe next time do some research before making up bullshit like 15w charging Is fake.
@@flyingtentacle7631 25W is bad
After a phone is charged to 80%, no matter how fast the charger is, the charge will relatively slow down. That is why the gap was reduced between 80% and 88%. Because the 45-watt charger had crossed the 80% mark and had reduced its speed, while the 25watt charger was pumping full juice till it reached 80%.
Also, the 45-watt charger is significantly better if you want to top up enough for the phone to run for the day or half a day at least while you have a shower. That charging speed for the first 60% matters the most, and that is where there is a clear advantage.
I know the end result showed that it was only 8 minutes, but just want you to realise, that 8 minutes is a really, really long time.
The ideal speed test for a charger should be done from 15% to 80%. That is where the 45-watt charger will shine.
Also, thanks for the information about the thicker chord needed in the 45-watt charger! I had no idea about it. You saved me a lot of money lol.
AND ODDLY, my S20 Ultra pulls faster 0-80% in my testing.
The 45W doesn't charge 45/25 times as fast as the 25W one, but it's still noticeably faster in the middle ranges. It's the cost difference or situational utility that would determine which I would purchase. The 45W was about £9 more or something when I bought it so thought to give it a shot, and not disappointed.
USB C and charger protocol like PPS, PD 3.0 here. Phone comunicate the best power they need and power brick bring that just need power. The output charge 45 watt, 75 watt just peak power maximum but if the battery almost full. Big juice in small space that battery for electron can't accept that power and temp. So the power peak lower if battery almost full to protect battery.
@@Invertedzero When I use app Ampere to test the charging current for my 25w charger, I got 4200mA.
That's much higher than the advertised up to 3A current.
What's the charging current for 45w charger?
@@xuntang19694200 must be the max capacity.
Thank you for this. I’m not going to ditch my 25w charger and buy the 45w for a measly 10% increase.
Rightly said
Same here! Thanks for saving me $
The only time you would even get that slight boost is if you let your phone drain below 15%. Anything more then that and it only charges around 22 watts.
@@ToddCopeland I should have researched first, what a waste of 10 dollars. I barely seen any improvement over the 25watt
buy other good brands 45 watt charger
Can you do another charging test where the charging starts when phones have just entered power saving mode (15% battery)?! Because I believe that is how most of the people actually charge their phone! Another real world yet reasonable factor added to the test!
Agreed! Please make a test video of charging starts @15%, @30% n @50%. Thats the REAL LIFE test 😁
@@afiqaFaT Yeah! Because if you're saying that the output drops to 29W after 25%, the difference would be 10% and 15W and then 4W thereafter! Doubt it'd be much!
I have a Nissan Leaf and it will charge very slowly if allowed to drop below 15%. But charge it at 30 or 40% and it will charge faster than all get out. Yes, I agree. Rerun the test starting out at higher percentages
@@yatindramanas96 nope up at the higher % the 45% gets a lot slower
@@DENVEROUTDOORMAN I was trying to say something in those lines only! That if you're charging from 15-20%, getting the 45W charging is not worth it!
What's the product code of the 45W charger?
I think its the EP-TA845
@@stephanklose208 And product code for new 45W charger is EP-T4510
The idiot used the old one. Everything to bash Samsung as usual by iPhoneArena
@@stephanklose208Yup, the old one.
@@gjna5143 do you mean there is a new version of the 45W charger that charges faster than the old one ?
45w charger is very fast charging from 0% to 60% battery compared to 25w charger.
For busy me, this is very meaningful, so I use 45w
Another one with OLD 45w charger
Congratulations 👏
Exactly mate, how many times are we going to see this?
Can you guys do a test with the new 45 watts EP-T4510 model and the new 65 watts model EP-T6530 with 5Amp cable please
That's the video iev been looking for I think the old 45w is inconsistent
@@shanesayetta5964 👍
New: (smaller)
Output Current (Max, Fast Charge)
PDO : 3 A(9 V, 15 V), 2.25 A(20 V) / PPS : 4.05 A(3.3-11.0 V), 2.8 A(3.3-16.0 V), 2.1 A(3.3-21.0 V)
Old:
Output Current (Max, Fast Charge)
PDO : 3A(9V, 15V), 2.25A(20V) / PPS : 4.05A(3.3-11.0V) or 2.8A(3.3-16.0V) or 2.1A(3.3-21.0V)
Yes, what a massive difference.
@@_TrueDesire_ So the difference is only in the size of the new chargers being small?
@@rrluvs smaller and it might be slightly more efficient but that´s it. Well the 5A cable is also included :)
I am more interested in heat during charging. I know that heat is the battery killer. I would imagine that slightly faster speed is not worth the degradation of that lithium ion battery. I would be interested to hear how much that shortened the life of that battery. It won't be a small difference. I would guess that using the phone while charging GREATLY increases heat. This is why they don't allow the fast charging while using it. Smart honestly.
batteries are rated to last minimum 800 charges and remain above 80% capacity. That is the industry standard.
Modern phones will throttle charging wattage to keep the temps in check
If you change your phone every 2-3 years, you don't have to worry about battery degradation.
Well 8T uses dual battery design. So 65 watt divided by 2 battery 32.5 watt each. Its not hot while charging. Previous versions already used 30watt. It doubled that in 2020.
@@SickPrid3 That's honestly just sad that people only expect a phone that costs over a 1000$ to last 2-3 years....
@@fynkozari9271 But this is the Galaxy s22 Ultra, I don't see anywhere saying it has a dual battery. That is good for the 8T though.
@@Ahzahail it is parallel batteries. Every phone with super fast charging 2.0 has it. 45W+ generates too much heat to make it work with single battery
Will channels ever stop posting '45 watt' charging videos with the old charger? LMAO
No, they will continue with every new 45 Watt charger 😎
Only 8 minutes? Thanks I’m just going to use my 25w charger Sammie ain’t going to get me lol 😂
I'd rather have the slower charging so the battery lasts longer.
Very good video. This is what the general consumer wants to see.
Not if the video is misleading. He's using the old 45W charger, not the new one
@@gjna5143 Ye, i wait for 45W (EP-T4510) charger for my S22U
@@PiotrSzewczykPL where is this NEW 45W charger? im afraid i ordered the old one. if i did, ill send it back to amazon and get the new one.
@@C_G33 Old 45W model: EP-TA845
@@PiotrSzewczykPL wheres the new one? It out yet?
That's so weird, I really thought nearly double the wattage would drastically reduce the charge time.
Every samsung phones can only take 25w charging whatever the charger power. If you plug your samsung on a 100w charger it will still charge at 25w. This is why the difference is so tiny between 25w and 45w charger.
using 45watt charger from 2020, the new 45watt charger made for the s22 will be much faster. The old one tops at 30watt only. You happleteam ??
i will use 25.. Im waiting to receive it :)
The first useful comparison i see in the internet
Just 8 minutes difference that is not worth it of course
I can use my old 25 w charger if that is the case
I noticed almost the same thing when charging. I took my phone down to 15% charge and never say more then 30w. Most of the time it stayed around 22w. While I'm fine with the charging time, I think Samsung should be held accountable for their lie. Lots of people will spend their money on 45w+ chargers because of Samsung's lie.
The screen needs to be off for fastest charging.
@@aliendroneservices6621 I don't think that is correct but since this post it appears that Samsung limits the charging wattage on all but a brand new charger that they are just releasing. If that is correct.... kind of shitty to advertise a phone that will charge at 45 watts... but it won't with any 45 watt charger except one that will be released.
@@ToddCopelandlll no bro his testing is down
I see the benefits in the 45w for travelers. If I'm out and about all day and come back to the hotel to change or shower, etc. for a dinner event, or even in times where I simply have just 10-15 minutes to get ready for my evening, the 45w charger will shine more there. HOnestly, both work fine as I do this now with a 25w charger but now that I'm out to buy a new / another one, I'm going to pick one up and keep it and the thicker cable in my bag.
Phone samsung galaxy s22 ultra, battery test now fast changing 25w and 45w phone quick fast speed phone move different good love🇰🇷📱🇰🇷🥰📞📳📱
I am not sure if the 45W charger that Samsung used to sell is the same as the new 45W charger. and I don't know which one he is using in the video.
yeah all comparison so far doesn't make a distinction. perhaps the new charger actually charges it faster? i know that it's actually coming out in a few weeks though
@Kaban Galeri Yeah I think so too. It should be different from than previous one. Otherwise it doesn't make any sense for Samsung to support 45W again if its the same.
@@IndianGagdgetGuy the problem is no one from samsung clarifies this issue, they are getting a loy of bad press lately especially with the ltpo blunder on the s22 and s22 plus
Good video saved me the cost of getting the 45W charger which doesn't seem that much better than the 25W.
Obviously ..... because it kills the battery faster charging with killzillion watts....
I m using 25 watt charger and it's perfect for s22 ultra rather buy two 25 ones compared to 45 one..
Just asking, because I recently discovered in Andriod 12 that some of my superfast wired charging and fast wireless charging had settings and I had most of them off. How that happened, not sure. But result was wireless and fast wireless charging were the same. Until I enabled them. Pushing charge into batteries tends to reduce thier life so even the superfast modes moderate chagring rare near a fully charged state or as mentioned in comments when warm.
Any chance you didn't have the newer faster charging enabled on the phones?
2.0 was printed on the bottom, so no.
45w vs 25w ang only 8% difference, not worthy of buying the 45w.
I have the 45w charger from a school cromebook lol, S20 FE unfortunately.
I currently have a 15w one to my s8, so the 45w will be a huge jump, even if it’s more like 30w, perks of stretching old hardware
I also think 0-50 is more important for fast characters, if you have 75% you don’t need to emergency charge, like you might at 5%
Your s8 phone will not accept 45w charging.
@@dvmartel1 I know, but my new S22U will 😁
@@kalle5548 haha i find 15W - 25W on s20 ultra from note 9 more than time sufficient enough 0 - 100 % in 65 minutes hahahaha
@@szewei85 upgrading from a N9 too. 1 hr 40 mins from 0 lol
Xiaomi 12 pro.. 0-100% for 17 minutes 😑😑😑🤦♂️
I don't regret buying a 45w charger, 'cause their purpose are different. I use the 25w that came in tha box to charge at night, when I won't need the phone for hours, and the 45w to a quick refuel in the middle of the day. A bonus point: my 45w charger has a 1.80m cable.
Superfast charging 2.0 is not working on my S22 ultra. I have a 65W PPS charger which is able to charge my galaxy tab S7+ at 2.0 but for some reason it is only able to charge my phone at Superfast charging (and not at 2.0). Settings are turned on. Does anyone know what's the issue?
nice, using superfastcharging 2.0. the new 45w charger supports 3.0. That would be interesting or using the charger from oneplus.
I'll be using my 55W charger from Xiaomi Mi 11 on the S22 ultra when it finally arrives and I'm curious to see how fast it charges.
Samsung is using proprietary charger for their devices, the fast charging won't work if you using different charger brand(or not listed in their official supported fast charger) and vice versa
@@kton3613 exactly
@@kton3613 would the 45w charger from spigen work? I've seen people getting the super fast charging 2.0 with it, that's why I'm unsure of what's gonna happen with my Xiaomi charger. As long as it's fast charging I'm cool with it.
@@kton3613 it will. You just need PD 3.0 PPS standard.
Phone makers are still struggling at charging batteries from 0 to 100% at full speed without damaging the cells. 62 minutes to fully charge a 5000 mAh battery is already a great outcome. and 15 minutes to get 32% of charge sounds great to me.
wait till you know about phones that use 50-120W chargers that fully charge phones in 20 mins
@@0Gravydigger0 yes but bet the batteries have a lot shorter life
@@DENVEROUTDOORMAN actually they don't. I use Xiaomi and Samsung phone, regularly and Xiaomi phones maintain their battery health just as long as Samsung does and I use 120W charging on my Xiaomi, every single day.
This is basically the same result like in 2019 with Note 10 as in the 45W is only slightly quicker than the 25W. Even after years, Samsung still have that Note 7 phobia and just playing it safe for now. Can't blame them though since getting more than 50% in 30 minutes is pretty good. Can't beat the Chinese phones crazy charging speed though.
Would this be faster if I do a 45w charge for 30 mins, then switch 25w to charge another 20-30 mins =D
Why would you need two chargers for one phone
@@kpehe100 I've got several after buying multiple Samsung phones within my family. Quite common to have multiples and dups
I think there is a difference in technology also! Samsung, Apple and Google use li-ion and xiaomi, oneplus use li-po. Li-po can take much more current to charge very fast, but it degrades much faster also.
I still use 1A(5W) charger to charge trough the night and fast charger only in emergency situations.
Sounds like Samsung should change their name to Scamsung?
I'm using a charger capable of 100w and a cable capable of 100w. YES, rated at 5A and im still only drawing 28W at 18%
8.mins? 😂😂 People please don't waste your money on that 45W charger. Samsung this is ridiculous
Man they are so behind charging tech it's a joke. And its doesn't play nice with Spigens 45w GaN pps charger so they made it proprietary too.
@@kona328WH Yeah I bought this charger yesterday from Amazon and when tested on my current S20 Ultra it would only charge at Superfast and not 2.0 so in effect, it would only reach 25w. So I sent it back. I've now ordered the Anker 45w to test, before my S22 Ultra arrives.
Charging rate depends on the battery temperature and the state of charge.
It depends on how Samsung implements that.
Also, even if it can charge at 1C (45W), it might have been limited to 0.9C.
Also the maximum charge rate might be when the battery temperature is at 25C-35C and less than 50%, that is why you see lesser speeds while gaming.
Guess Samsung is taking care of the battery health.
so we should test in a refrigerator?
@@软件实验室 No need to, they would have already tested it across temperatures so that you don't have to use your brain more than just for commenting.
@@软件实验室 actually that is pretty good idea to test with cooling vs without it
No, the idiot is just using the old 45W charger instead of the new one that is yet to come out
@@gjna5143 the new and old charger are exactly the same according to Samsung themselves
Can you confirm if you used the new 45W brick or the old one please? The new TP-4510 is said to address some of the throttling issues with the older one.
Think I may get the one plus next time!
Did he know that two phone have different battery capacity
Hi, Once in a while I charge my phones via USB multimeter (USB OLED display tester J7-4T) on the same charging voltage/same charger so I can see the deterioration going on in my batteries/phones/etc. So, my old Galaxy S7 flat (3000mAh battery) when it was about a half a year old it could take slightly over 2100mAh, few days ago and yesterday (as I repeat the test for more reliability) it can take only just above 1500mAh. My Galaxy s20 with battery stated 4000mAH it can take just over 2000mAh- I do not know how much it could take when device was new as I bought it used. IMHO no app can tell you more and better than this kind of test. If I'm wrong correct me guys ;)
Can you do some tests this way- with USB multimeter- for brand new phones and then compare it with used (a year or two) same phones? What do you think?
Eight minutes, thats it?!
For eight minutes Samsung charging 49$?!
Hes using 45watt charger from 2020, the new 45watt charger made for the s22 will be much faster. The old one tops at 30watt only
You should learn more about what happens when battery gets to above 80%. But of course you don't and just continue crying about it.
Also you should only charge to around 80-85%. Your phone has setting you can enable to do that.
Why? Because of reason you don't want to learn about.
@@edwts Wrong. It will charge exactly at speed battery tells it to. You're yet another whining karen who who refuses to learn how charging and more precisely fast charging works and why it doesn't every time.
It’s only a phone battery! @@UltraCasualPenguin
I love my S22 ultra but it's annoying that it takes an hour to charge. My last mobile was Oppo Find X2 Pro and it charged in about an 32 minutes and Oppo included the brick in the box too. Why is Samsung behind in this area ???
I am having the same problem.
my OnePlus charged fully in about 35 minutes.
@@Moon222 My s22 ultra didn't come with a charger either so I'm using my 65 watt supervooc Oppo charger and it takes about an hour and half to charge from 0% to 100%. Fast charging is a big thing when choosing a mobile and i can honestly say that I'm regretting buying my s22 ultra. Best phone money can buy and I'm really disappointed with it in so many ways.
after using an Oppo cellphone with SuperVooc support.. yes you will suffer from USB-PD and QC lag
man u guys are spoiled af
Since my last comment, I've recently bought the 45 watt Samsung charger and it's considerably better than the 25 watt Samsung charger. Only paid 25 quid for it too. It's definitely worth paying the little extra for the 45 watt instead of the 25 watt. However, they are still half the speed of my old Oppo Find X2 Pro with its 65 watt SuperVooc charger which comes in the box.
But you never know,
Maybe in the next software updation, the charging speed might be fixed for the 45watts.
I mean it is a possibility.
What happen when S22 charged using Lenovo type c charger which has about 65w output ?
Why is he getting these speeds with the old TA845 charger? When Samsung states that the new EP-T4510 is required?
Honestly. I'm sticking with the 25 watt because there is not really to much of a difference. Now if that was a 100 watt wall charger "which I don't expect to see until the next ultra or even 2 after that" that is when it's going to really matter but for now personally I would stick the 25 watt.
when did I asked ??
@WhatsApp 👉+ ①⑤①②⑨⑧①⑦②⓪⑨ scamer
Great test. I was very curious. My wife ordered s22 and I did s22u. I didn't expect only 10 min difference between 100% on these two.
S22 might charge up faster because of 3700mah battery va 4500mah battery
@@bhagwanparticle no 4500 but 5000mah
I just ordered 45w charger cause I just got my S22 ultra today 👍🔥🔥👍
Some of the information towards the end of this video is a bit misleading. The way charging phones works, especially with higher wattage chargers, is basically based on how full the battery is. As batteries get more full, charging speeds/wattages drop. This is inevitable. If you were to create a graph of battery percentage x charger wattage, you would see a consistent drop off or diminishing returns of wattage as battery percentage increases. This is true for any charger of any wattage. I do completely agree that 45W charging is at best a nice to have over a 25 watt charger, given the small real gains, but the majority of the advantage you will see comes from the lower percentage charging (say, charging from 0-50%), given those battery percentages are where you will actually be able to achieve the higher wattage values. It's not that samsung or any other company is lying per se about the charging speeds or power outputs, but more accurately that the science behind chargers and batteries restricts them in this way. For now, this is how batteries and charging is limited, and until entirely new technology comes along, this is how it will be.
So this is the old 45w charger?
The one we already know the results for.
We want a video showing the NEW 45w charger.
Waste of time.
Exactly what I was going to say. You can buy the new chargers...why isn't anyone outright saying if its better
Using a battery with a higher Watt too often will just accelerate the damage to the phone battery.
Since the very old age, Companies tend to lie to customers when it comes to Number. Besides, it's understandable that technically most companies usually play safe, in which the capabilities of their electric device products wont be boosted and optimalized to the top level they actually can reach to avoid early damage of the device. Fortunately, that can make the device last longer.
I would love to see the S22 at 25W Vs the S22 Plus at 45W (or Ultra). I think it would be interesting since the S22 has a smaller battery
What? Why?
Can I use the 30W Oneplus charging brick to charge my samsung 22 Ultra?
Only great to have a charge boost when you have 0% battery 🙄
I heard fast charging is not good for your device's battery in the long run and also effect overall battery health??
Thank you for the video I'll just save my money and stick with my 25w
Great information!!! I'll be returning my 45w charging brick for the 25w
At start, it showed the time difference to 100% being 8 minutes so you only need the "better" charger if you need a quick top-up but otherwise, meh. No VooC charge
Great video!What are you using?Exynos or snapdragon s22 ultra?
Qualcomm snapdragon
The chinese use dual cell batteries, so it can top up in a safe pace.
ie, if it's a 4000mah cell with 120w charge, it's cell is split into 2k each and charged at 60w per side.
In many phone despite showing fast charging the charging time 2 hours ++ I wonder if 65 or higher charger may solve the problem
Samsung is just being conservative in order to preserve the Battery capacity in the long term, it is not a fault but a decision
I agree totally
I was going to buy a 45 watt charger until I watched your video thank you so much you helped me save $$ and I greatly appreciate it thanks again 😊 JR
I rather trust Samsung with these limitations. There must be a reason, perhaps the longevity of the battery and safety concerns
Which chipset that u are using? Exynos or the snapdragon?
The graph around 4:30 was kind of misleading showing the showing inequal gaps of time equally spaced out I know it's meant to show the difference between the two but it makes it look like the fastest charging happened in the middle.
This is so disappointing when compare to OnePlus. Samsung gotta pick up their charging game, advertising for 45w charge and does it at 42. They promote their car wireless charger as "power up with quickness - 9w" lmao hope it doesn't fool people.
I pre ordered this from the OnePlus 7 pro...hope I don't regret this switch.
This is not the new charger he's using but the old one. The new one is a lot quicker. 0-100 in 45 minutes
@@gjna5143 I don't believe so, new and old will have the same capability. Samsung is too conservative with charging technology due to the Note 7 💥, very disappointing.
@@thelongnguyens Nope, old one is quick charge 2.0. The new one is quick charge 3.0. Go ask. T-Mobile shop confirmed it to me
@@gjna5143 how did you find out the charge time from 0 to 100% in 45 minutes, that sound too quick for any Samsung device (their fear of another explosion).
Can you use the 45W charger to charge a laptop? If yes, that alone will be enough for me to go with the 45W charger.
Are they exynos or snapdragon ??
Exynos.
Second note. I think samsung doesnt utilize the super fast charge like oneplus simply to save battery life expectancies. Lithium doesnt like to be fast charged all the time. It will fail sooner if continuously charging fast. They need a "trickle" charge to save its life expectancy.
Your exactly right, and it was obvious from the beginning, two of the biggest phone brands are using low charge speed compared to others. They can copy it if they wanted to, but iPhones and the galaxy s series are known to last years on end without any issues, and it seems they want to keep it that way.
@@omarhamzah9865just stay with your 10w charger and checked the battery health every an hours 😂
It’s not much of a difference with Galaxy phones, idk why. I don’t believe the Galaxy phones actually use 45W because if you charge a Xiaomi phone with 60W then you’ll see it charge by mere seconds, in less than 200 seconds you’ll go from 0% to 100%. So it’s impossibly that a Galaxy supposedly has 45W charging capabilities yet it takes over an hour for it to charge from 0 to 100? Nah, something ain’t right.
Does a fast-charged smartphone consume power quickly?
I have a charger from my S8 Plus, I used this charger on my new S22 Ultra, battery on 50% 21 minutes later 100% - When I connected the S22 Ultra a message popped up, if I wanted to select regular or fast charging; I selected fast charging, not too shabby 50% in 21 minutes.
45 w is better in gaming experience, while you gaming and charging phone in same time it will produce less heat and will be more comfortable while playing while 25 w will have more pressure on it. My opinion
This is an excellent video. I rewatched in preparation for unpacked 2023.
thanks I continue with my 25w charger since the truth is that the big change is in the first half hour, from there plus 10 minutes of difference I better continue with the 25w one thanks you made me save money
Nice & detailed informative video. Thank You! 🙂👍🏻🙏🏼
I pre-ordered S22-U and asked for 45W Charger offline. Lucky me, it wasn't available in Samsung Store, so I decided to buy the cheaper but competitive 25W battery.
For 8min difference is not worth it
@@gsh84 Exactly right!
So the 45W is 20% more than 25W. Clearly they’re WAY overselling this, and the 45W charger isn’t being used for much at all. Borderline scam. It’s a 30W charger in reality.
Like last year. No point to buy 45W charger because difference is relevant.
FYI: The Samsungs will slow the charging rate after 85%. That is why the gap closes after passing 85% charge.
I like my oppo 30 min 100% charger :)
I find this crazy how guy at Verizon store was trying to sell me 45w charger telling me that if I used 25w it will kill my battery when I bought S22..... I only use original Samsung 25w chargers... I have like 5 of them.. I paid all this money for original Samsung charges for my Note 10+ and he telling me that I have to replaced them all with 45w..... yeah right!....
What's the charging speed with the phones turned off?
I charge my phone through PC USB for years, less than 5W!😅 Though I find fast charging useful on devices for the kids, they cant be trusted with cables or chargers
I'm happy using the charger that came with my Note 10+
Absolutely great video!!!!!
5:40 Mine hit 42 watts on the 1st month while it's on.
Now under 40 watts.
Is it safe to use 25w adapter for my s 22 ultra?
Sure is
Samsung claims that s21u supports 25W fast charge， but actually ，when you're using a pd charger that supports 3A PPS，the maximum charging speed can go up to 27W and it maintains the speed until the phone is charged up to about 70-80% ，this is interesting
30w pps charger is sweet spot between price/performance
This video is definitely going to save a lot of people wasting their money!
Which is the best
These phone companies think they are slick, so we are not getting what we buy🙄😒
The ONLY channel that does DEEP DIVES into the S22Ultra !
All the other big channels seem to shun the truth ..
All doing the same lame reviews with an unboxing, show the device (we have seen it a 1000 times), detail camera testing and then a game or 2 and maybe a quick benchmark, that's it ...
People want to know True performance
True reallife battery stamina
And real comparisons !
It's remarkable how 'soft' the other channels are and none of them seem to want to ay anything bad about this device .....
Samsung is the gift that keeps on giving for YT creators, a conveyor belt of cash on every release; so we get something out of the Twilight Zone where they obfuscate anything that is not so great.
Stuff like no AV1 support on media streaming on the SD8G1 when the Exynos 2100 had it in the S21U! The chips can handle that codec with ease as Samsung shows, yet no feedback to Qualcomm to get support? Do not want to upset Qualcomm and the free trips to their showcases! YT is the place for technical comparisons, to question decisions, but it seems it is more about pleasing the clients, be it Samsung/Qualcomm fans or the businesses!
@@andyH_England very well put !
Sergio Casino You're kidding me right? There are TONS of channels who reviewed S22 series and some of them pointed a couple of issues (mainly battery life). Do you live in North Korea or something? You only have access to 2 channels? Or are you just crappy at searching?
You're also gullible. This video uses the OLD Samsung 45w charger which was already known to have issues. This video should also test the newest Samsung 45W charger then make their conclusions. Why test new hardware with old hardware? Test new hardware with new hardware that came out at the same time. Just shows this channel doesn't know how to properly test things.
Do us all and yourself a favor and do your research before spewing garbage for everyone to see.
@@HDGuy001 Name me 3 million + subs channels that went into detail about the battery life and real performance.
Saying that you got through the day is not enough. That doesn't say shit.
A proper test of anything is a video on itself and not just showing a benchmark after doing a 10 minute unbox and talking about the camera.
Again, show me a channel that shows an extensive batterytest of the Exy 2200 and 8gen1 so we can compare.
@@Roomer645 I'm assuming you're an adult right? You don't know how to search yourself?
Deep Dive? Real comparisons? How many tests did he do? ONE test recording the charging time? How many chargers did he use? 2 Samsung chargers? What about chargers from other companies? What about chargers without PD? What about chargers that are > 45W? Chargers < 25W? What about comparing Exynos and Snapdragon charging times? The list goes on and on in addition to using the OLD 45W charger instead of the new one!
Like I was saying before he did NOT TEST PROPERLY and left out important information that will confuse viewers.
Also as you can see from the comments below many people are saying there's no point using the 45w charger which means the damage is already done. Others are telling him to test using the newer charger. So you think it's OK to mislead the public when a channel did not present all the information?
PS - It takes time to thoroughly test everything and some channels just do an initial first look. Not to mention soon after release date, sometimes Samsung will push out their final software updates.
Considering the 25 watt is 25 bucks vs 49 bucks for the 45 watt it's not worth the purchase UNLESS it's common to only have 30 minutes to charge.