I'm hiking in the woods 50+ years. I've seen a mountain lion twice. Both times along densely traveled PA interstate highways. Both times eating roadkill. Not the kills splattered all over the road. The kills that crawled off and died. Take it or leave it. They pass through 100%!
I saw them in the 80"s in Tennessee, Southern Illinois and Missouri. All along the highways. Safe no shoot corridors. Low people populations. Lots of road kill deer.
@@amishpat5201 Both times were within 20 miles of each other. Along interstate 81 where the contours of the land funnel deer into crossing points, that on either side of the road resemble graveyards. The one's that aren't splattered by semi's make it to the other side on pure adrenaline. Then lay down and expire. That's the place for a trail cam. I just don't have the time.
When I was about 12yo in Bedford County, we saw a mountain lion on the hill behind our house. It was skirting a woody patch at the edge of a field on the hillside about 150 yards away. There was no mistaking what it was. It was obviosly a cat, tan in color, body about 3-4 feet long, about 18-24 inches at the shoulder, with a tail of about 2-3 feet in length. There were 4 of us watching it for at least 5 minutes. It was in no hurry. I believe this was springtime, because the field was green and only a few inches tall...... I think it was corn.
I live in Nook very close to where Stolzfus small engine repair is, like not even a mile away. My mom saw one while weed eating when I was 5, that was 20 years ago. Our dog at the time, treed the mountain lion. They have been around or passing through for a long time.
My friend and I saw one above 7 years ago in Kennedy valley Perry county Pennsylvania . The lionwas crossing a field edge. It was only about 60 yard from us. Saw tracks a few times hunting deer along the top edge of the mountain in the rocks at sandy soil spot.
I saw a Mountain Lion about 15 years ago running across state route 144 between Renova and Potter County! I am 46 and grew up in the woods. I know what I saw!!
Maybe 10 years ago I was driving north of Brookville Pa and a deer ran in front of me from left to right so I looked to the left to see if there was more coming and there was, only it was a mt lion instead of a deer. It came close to getting hit so I got a very close look at it. Beautiful animal and no doubt it was a mt lion. Everyone says including the game commission that the are not in Pa but yea they are.
They say there aren't viable breeding populations, not that there are none. In fact, on its website, it says there is the possibility one might see escaped mountain lions that were kept as exotic pets, and also that you may see one that has wandered in from other states. A viable breeding population is a population that has enough genetic diversity and a large enough population size to maintain genetic diversity and avoid extinction. A population's viability is affected by the rates at which individuals are born, die, and grow. The "50/500 rule" is a commonly used benchmark for a minimum viable population (MVP). This rule states that a population needs at least 50 individuals to prevent inbreeding depression, and at least 500 individuals to reduce genetic drift. However, some studies suggest that this rule may not apply to a wide range of taxa. For example, some island bird populations have survived for decades with fewer than 10 pairs.
@@in.der.welt.sein. I'm sure we all know they are not a common sight and know that they are rare but to get to see one to me means they are here. They are either here or they aren't. I have seen two in the last 10 years and one of them was just a couple of years ago a mile from my home. I am not saying they are residents of the area because i know they are not but even if they are just passing through, they are still here.
@@gimpie4226 sure, but my point is that many lay people who are ignorant of these basic scientific concepts often mistakes the claim that there are no viable breeding populations with "there are zero here".
@@in.der.welt.sein. You are splitting hairs. Just like most over educated science people. I am not ignorant or a lay person. I am just saying that they are here I am not saying they are breeding or staying here. You are trying to outsmart meby being arrogant. Please keep you thoughts to yourself. I have two degrees and I don't need a you tube degree.
Those stories really need hard video/photographic evidence to convince me. The scent lures are a great idea to increase the chance of a sighting. Interesting sightings! Have to laugh at the squirrels' reaction to the lures! 😅
Back in the 80's the headwaters of Blacklog creek held ample brookies. Had a ft long brookie wrapped my line around roots in a pool only 6 ft in diameter size. Must have caught and released dozens of those little beauties. Last trip up in there 20 years ago revealed powerline construction which ruined those headwaters. Some call that progress. Not I
Except for the bear, we get the same critters in our backyard. We also get wild turkeys and rabbits. I love living in the country. Thanks for the video.
Great video Cliff. I was shocked at that first story! The way it is written, it is the mountain lion eating a bacon and egg sandwich. I didn't even know mountain lions could cook. Amazing stuff! It would be amazing, though, if you could catch a mountain lion on a trail cam! I'm doubtful of course, but it would be great.
I've seen three. One in Julian, PA, that crossed US Route 220 right in front of me touching only the double-yellow line on its way across. It had a rabbit in its mouth. The second one was 15 feet behind my house. We stared at each other for a moment before it sauntered away. The third one crossed Route 36 directly in front of me (Duncansville), once again touching only the double yellow line as it leaped across. My wife saw one crossing Reservoir Road along a power line (Duncansville), again crossing the road in one bound.
I saw one in Greene county probably 15 years ago. About a week later it was in the news paper that there was multiple sightings. Also I worked with a guy who lived up by Indiana and he had one on video. They are here just very sparse.
In the 70's the father of one of my my best friend's shot one in Western PA. He had it mounted and my friend built a wooden and glass display case in shop class. It was in their dining room for years. About a year later I saw one about a mile from there while night skiing at our local ski lodge in Western PA. It was our last run of the night and we stopped at the top of the hill. I heard a branch break in the woods and looked over to see a large cat coming towards us. I yelled Cougar and started tucking the hill, (going straight down). Ski Patrol was waiting at the bottom of the hill about to get on the T-bar to do a final sweep. They yelled to tell me that I'm not allowed to tuck the hill. I skied right up to them and said there's a mountain lion up there. They said, BS there's no such animal in PA. Then it walked across the lighted slope and they decided to forego doing a final sweep of the hill that night, partly because the big cat had just walked across the path where the T-bar was going to drag them up the hill. I told a local game warden about the cat I saw and he told me there's no such animal in PA. I asked him to explain the one in G's dining room that was shot about a mile from where we're standing? He had no explanation and just shrugged his shoulders. In the 90's I asked a game warden about coyotes in Western PA, he denied any existed. About a month later on my way to a buddy's farm I came across a game warden releasing a pair of coyotes from the back of a truck. I asked what he was doing and he told me they were releasing coyotes to try to bring down the deer population. I asked, then why do you guys deny their existence in PA? All he did was shrug and tell me the insurance industry was funding the release of the coyotes. In 2018 I was talking to an old HS buddy. He showed me a picture of a mountain lion that he took a few days before while walking his dogs. About a 1/4 mile down the road from his house he came across his next door neighbors garbage can tipped over next to the road and two coyotes tearing it up. He got control of his dogs and saw movement out of the corner of his eye, looked over and saw a large mountain lion watching him, his dogs, and the coyotes. He took a pic with his phone and as I was looking at the pic he said, check out it's neck. I asked WTF? It was wearing a radio collar. He had talked to a game warden and asked him about mountain lions in the area. He was given the canned response that there hasn't been a mountain lion sighted in PA since blah, blah, blah. He pulled out his phone and asked, oh yeah, then explain this, and why is it wearing a radio collar? The game warden admitted to him that they had released 10 mated pairs in Western PA to help kill off the coyotes and deer, funded by the insurance industry. All of those incidents happened within about a mile or so of each other. Believe what you believe, especially anything a government official tells you.
Thanks for the videos, I really enjoy them. We have such beautiful forests in Pa. That log on the trail cam looks like it might have had turkey tail mushrooms on it. Very healthful mushroom, but you have to dry it and make a powder.
This is an excellent progression of your channel. I really enjoy these trail cam as a general viewing and its fun to see what comes along. I would not rule out mountain lions from the area but those stories are not good. I like to keep an open mind as we think many things are gone and then one day Voila!. But I just don't want to be on the trail when that Voila! happens...LOL. Keep up the great work.
Kind of cool that you are able to put trail cams up in y’all’s parks. I think it is still legal here in Texas, but I know there is a push to follow a handful of the other states and get them banned on public land.
I know absolutely nothing about mountain lions however here in Australia during severe droughts for bushfire we sometimes see animals that are not usually seen in our areas animals will travel out of their normal areas if their food source is very low. So to me it's always a possibility I guess that a lion could pass through if looking for food
An estimated 20,000 big cats are held by private owners in the USA. That is the guess. This includes tigers, lions, cheehtas, leopards, lynx, cougar. Then you have zoos. Anything could be running around. But Cougars have clearly been moving east since at least the 70's. As suburbia expands and as America becomes less "hunter" the Cougars have safe corridors to pursue the abundant deer populations. They are here you can bet. Large breeding populations are in the future, but they are logically in Pennsylvania and there have been many credible sightings by hunters in PA.
Used to run the ridge in Strodes Mills up behind my Grams house. I know what tracked me and my brother out of the woods I don’t care what the game commission tries to claim.
Loved those camera images you showed. Those animals were gorgeous. Hope lions are never found worried they will be hunted. The stories were nice but not convincing. Thank you so much for this share. Please take care
Loved this! That was a good idea to put the cams by the log. The bear at the beginning surprised me. It looked like a bear or something rather big and black going up the hill on the left side. I couldn't see a tail if itvwas a raccoon. I believe there are mountain lions here,why not? Wouldn't that be awesome if you caught one on the cam? Good clear videos, too. Be safe❤❤❤❤
It's possible that mountain lions are in Pennsylvania! With the amount of people and traffic in the outdoors they stay in the thickes area of travel and only venture out in the darkness of the night when people traffic is at It's lowest! Remember they are the top prededers
There is a gentleman who has trail cameras set up in Black Moshannon State Park. He periodically posts the videos. His channel is Bob's Pennsylvania Wildlife Camera. He has great nature footage of just about every animal you can find in Pennsylvania. No commentary, just the animals and actual nature sounds. Last year I asked if he had ever gotten a mt. lion on camera or had he seen one. He said he had neither seen one or gotten one on camera but he knew two men who had seen a mt. lion as well as mt. lion tracks. A few years ago a mt. lion was killed (hit by car) in Connecticut. When they DNA tested it turned out it came from South Dakota. Unless it went up through Canada and came down into New England it would have gone through PA. If they aren't here I have no doubt they will be eventually. There are more than enough dear in this state to support at least a transient population.
Something to think about there are between 5000 and 7000 big cats held in captivity in the us , less then 10 percent are in accredited sites , meaning zoo or safari type park or rescue center . Of the other 90 percent there are probably quite a few escapes and intensional realeases . Alligators native range has never been anywhere close to pa but i think 2 or 3 have been captured in the Allegheny in the last couple of years . If there where a breeding population there would have to be way more sightings.
I had personal sightings of Cougars in the 1985 in Southern Illinois in the Shawnee National Forest in Southern Illinois. In 1988 in Tennesse on Interstate 40 just east of Jackson, Tennessee and in 1989 in Missouri along Interstate 70 just west of Columbia Missourri. Zero doubt. Every expert denied this as possible. Now retired, often in Florida in the winter, my neighbors are from Murphysboro, Illinois which is close to the Shawnee National Forest area. They are farmers. They casually confirmed the presence of Cougars, not even considering it a question. The big cats follow deer and other game. Suburbia has nuetered the hunter. The big cats have safe corridors loaded with deer and other game. Further, the average American is anything other than a keen Daniel Boone type outdoorsman. When you hear Fish and Game staff mocking the reports it makes you question their scientific curiousity, a characteristic critical to knowing what is really going on.
I've seen tracks in bedford county tslked to a farmer there that pics on his trail came on 2 seperate occasions showed pa game commission and they denied it be careful in those hills
Just like the coyotes and bears are moving back into their historical range, I believe mountain lions will also. Although at a slower rate since they were essentially extinct in this, and most, areas in the eastern US.
I do wildlife photography and like to read the bear and mountain lion attack books. I might have seen one years ago. There were rumors about a lion track being found in the snow back then. I was driving on a smaller road at night and an animal jumped across the road in front of me. I saw a cat shaped head and a long tail followed the body. It touched the road once. I can't say it absolutely was a lion but I know what it was not. I use to search for tracks and scat up on the mountains. While looking for animals to photograph, I see far more deer and bears near people than on game lands. So lions could be near people because their food is near people. Years ago, we had horses. Sometimes they would have scratches on their butt like something attacked them. One day I drove past someone sitting along the road just up from our horse pasture. They said they saw a mountain lion with a baby in a field that overlooked the horse pasture. I didn't see it so I don't know what they saw. I also use game cameras. I'll catch squirrels, opossums, doe, fawns, coyotes, raccoons, bears and rarely a bobcat. No lions yet. Road damaged animals... The bobcats will come first, then coyotes and then the bears. Much of the time worms (maggots?) will consume the road damaged animal and nothing else comes. I have had people insist that they saw a lion and their picture will be of a bobcat.
I have heard them before in NC. it sounds like woman screaming. A older person told me that the female will scream when they mating...IDK all I know is that someone I know there cat had a bunch of babies and there were 3 lil Bob tail Kitti's of course I took a female she lived a very long time and she was always well cared for she lived inside and her name was Wesay ( Cherokee Indian language for wild cat))
good job have a house in morris pa lycoming/ tioga county house is at oregon hill on the mountain top guy eric that owned oregon hil winery said he saw a large cat in the road by his property one day i have heard strange noises in the woods by my house morris used to have a person that studied mountain lion existence in pa saw in article in mountain home magazine years ago need to go to north central pa
I have personally seen 2 mt, lions, years ago, have seen tracks, many others have seen them also, one guy has pictures of one on his sandmound. Some people dont belive it, but thats there problem, i saw what i saw, screw the game commission, Dauphin county pa
The only place I know of that has documented pictures and reports of mountain lions east of the Mississippi (cougars) is Florida. Not that I don't believe they may exist elsewhere. There was a report when I lived in Pensacola FL that a cougar was seen jumping from a tree and heading down railroad tracks near a beach at Pensacola Bay.
You have no clue what you're talking about! You should visit the hardware store in Orbisonia. They had a local picture of a mtn lion in Blacklog valley. Secondly, you need to listen to the two cats in the wild and not on some stupid computer!! There's a serious difference in their screams and growls!! A bob cat isn't near as loud as a mtn lion.
A mountain lion's staple diet is deer, not cows. One deer can last a mountain lion up to 2 weeks. Would be good to actually have mountain lions to curb the CWD disease in deer, and balance the animal food chain populations. All these years go by and no actual concrete mountain lion footage. Sadly, there will never be a breeding mountain lion population in PA, due to the ignorance of people, which is why they became extirpated, or geographically extinct in PA in the first place. The sightings at best would be a stray wondering male mountain lion looking for a female, here today and gone tomorrow. The closest documented mountain lion population is in Nebraska in extreme isolated areas, but sadly they are being persecuted and due to their lifecycle will never gain a foothold beyond there, so no documented population east of the Mississippi. It's pathetic how man through ignorance and selfishness has ruined the health of the natural world by taking out apex predators, which is what maintains the health of the natural world being at the top of the food chain. It would be like taking the sharks out of the ocean.
i have trapped this area for 25 years..... you are wasting your time. Bobcats, yes. Mt. lions,, only in your imagination. thoes nut eating pumas are fairly common.😄
have seen big cats in az co ut wy cal tn ky nc east ky and tn most in eastern states believe they travel the appalations most calve killings are coyote have investigated several people dont realy understand how stroung bobcats are or how big they get eather
I'm hiking in the woods 50+ years. I've seen a mountain lion twice. Both times along densely traveled PA interstate highways. Both times eating roadkill. Not the kills splattered all over the road. The kills that crawled off and died. Take it or leave it. They pass through 100%!
PGC denied Coyotes in PA for a long time too.
I saw them in the 80"s in Tennessee, Southern Illinois and Missouri. All along the highways. Safe no shoot corridors. Low people populations. Lots of road kill deer.
@@amishpat5201 Both times were within 20 miles of each other. Along interstate 81 where the contours of the land funnel deer into crossing points, that on either side of the road resemble graveyards. The one's that aren't splattered by semi's make it to the other side on pure adrenaline. Then lay down and expire. That's the place for a trail cam. I just don't have the time.
When I was about 12yo in Bedford County, we saw a mountain lion on the hill behind our house. It was skirting a woody patch at the edge of a field on the hillside about 150 yards away. There was no mistaking what it was. It was obviosly a cat, tan in color, body about 3-4 feet long, about 18-24 inches at the shoulder, with a tail of about 2-3 feet in length. There were 4 of us watching it for at least 5 minutes. It was in no hurry. I believe this was springtime, because the field was green and only a few inches tall...... I think it was corn.
I live in Nook very close to where Stolzfus small engine repair is, like not even a mile away. My mom saw one while weed eating when I was 5, that was 20 years ago. Our dog at the time, treed the mountain lion. They have been around or passing through for a long time.
Thousands of trail cams in Pa. and yet no CLEAR videos !
My friend and I saw one above 7 years ago in Kennedy valley Perry county Pennsylvania . The lionwas crossing a field edge. It was only about 60 yard from us. Saw tracks a few times hunting deer along the top edge of the mountain in the rocks at sandy soil spot.
I saw a Mountain Lion about 15 years ago running across state route 144 between Renova and Potter County! I am 46 and grew up in the woods. I know what I saw!!
Maybe 10 years ago I was driving north of Brookville Pa and a deer ran in front of me from left to right so I looked to the left to see if there was more coming and there was, only it was a mt lion instead of a deer. It came close to getting hit so I got a very close look at it. Beautiful animal and no doubt it was a mt lion. Everyone says including the game commission that the are not in Pa but yea they are.
They say there aren't viable breeding populations, not that there are none. In fact, on its website, it says there is the possibility one might see escaped mountain lions that were kept as exotic pets, and also that you may see one that has wandered in from other states.
A viable breeding population is a population that has enough genetic diversity and a large enough population size to maintain genetic diversity and avoid extinction. A population's viability is affected by the rates at which individuals are born, die, and grow.
The "50/500 rule" is a commonly used benchmark for a minimum viable population (MVP). This rule states that a population needs at least 50 individuals to prevent inbreeding depression, and at least 500 individuals to reduce genetic drift. However, some studies suggest that this rule may not apply to a wide range of taxa. For example, some island bird populations have survived for decades with fewer than 10 pairs.
@@in.der.welt.sein. I'm sure we all know they are not a common sight and know that they are rare but to get to see one to me means they are here. They are either here or they aren't. I have seen two in the last 10 years and one of them was just a couple of years ago a mile from my home. I am not saying they are residents of the area because i know they are not but even if they are just passing through, they are still here.
@@gimpie4226 sure, but my point is that many lay people who are ignorant of these basic scientific concepts often mistakes the claim that there are no viable breeding populations with "there are zero here".
@@in.der.welt.sein. You are splitting hairs. Just like most over educated science people. I am not ignorant or a lay person. I am just saying that they are here I am not saying they are breeding or staying here. You are trying to outsmart meby being arrogant. Please keep you thoughts to yourself. I have two degrees and I don't need a you tube degree.
@@in.der.welt.sein.I see you took a wildlife technology course lol
I’m from Juniata county the lions do pass through the county we have seen tracks several times and many locals have had sightings
Me too
Those stories really need hard video/photographic evidence to convince me. The scent lures are a great idea to increase the chance of a sighting. Interesting sightings! Have to laugh at the squirrels' reaction to the lures! 😅
Back in the 80's the headwaters of Blacklog creek held ample brookies.
Had a ft long brookie wrapped my line around roots in a pool only 6 ft in diameter size.
Must have caught and released dozens of those little beauties.
Last trip up in there 20 years ago revealed powerline construction which ruined those headwaters.
Some call that progress.
Not I
I talked to someone about a month ago, this person saw a mountain lion in Michaux State Forest at Caledonia.
I just love these trail cam footages Cliff. My favorite part was when the Sasquatch stopped and waved at the camera! 😏
Except for the bear, we get the same critters in our backyard. We also get wild turkeys and rabbits. I love living in the country. Thanks for the video.
Great video Cliff. I was shocked at that first story! The way it is written, it is the mountain lion eating a bacon and egg sandwich. I didn't even know mountain lions could cook. Amazing stuff! It would be amazing, though, if you could catch a mountain lion on a trail cam! I'm doubtful of course, but it would be great.
I like the new videos with the trail cams. Good job. Never know what you might capture on film.
That cam footage on 8/25 was a nice birthday gift for me Cliff. Thanks! Very cool footage! God Bless...
A mountain lion was spotted last week in mifflintown along the river near empire kosher 2 people claim to see it
I've seen three. One in Julian, PA, that crossed US Route 220 right in front of me touching only the double-yellow line on its way across. It had a rabbit in its mouth. The second one was 15 feet behind my house. We stared at each other for a moment before it sauntered away. The third one crossed Route 36 directly in front of me (Duncansville), once again touching only the double yellow line as it leaped across. My wife saw one crossing Reservoir Road along a power line (Duncansville), again crossing the road in one bound.
Thanks. Nice videos. Stay well.
I saw one in Greene county probably 15 years ago. About a week later it was in the news paper that there was multiple sightings. Also I worked with a guy who lived up by Indiana and he had one on video. They are here just very sparse.
I did like ya said and listened to both bobcats and mountain lions. They're very similar!🐱😳
the problem with being a skeptic or a believer is that neither require proof to form their opinions and therefore neither are being truly scientific.
In the 70's the father of one of my my best friend's shot one in Western PA. He had it mounted and my friend built a wooden and glass display case in shop class. It was in their dining room for years.
About a year later I saw one about a mile from there while night skiing at our local ski lodge in Western PA. It was our last run of the night and we stopped at the top of the hill. I heard a branch break in the woods and looked over to see a large cat coming towards us. I yelled Cougar and started tucking the hill, (going straight down). Ski Patrol was waiting at the bottom of the hill about to get on the T-bar to do a final sweep. They yelled to tell me that I'm not allowed to tuck the hill. I skied right up to them and said there's a mountain lion up there. They said, BS there's no such animal in PA. Then it walked across the lighted slope and they decided to forego doing a final sweep of the hill that night, partly because the big cat had just walked across the path where the T-bar was going to drag them up the hill.
I told a local game warden about the cat I saw and he told me there's no such animal in PA. I asked him to explain the one in G's dining room that was shot about a mile from where we're standing? He had no explanation and just shrugged his shoulders.
In the 90's I asked a game warden about coyotes in Western PA, he denied any existed. About a month later on my way to a buddy's farm I came across a game warden releasing a pair of coyotes from the back of a truck. I asked what he was doing and he told me they were releasing coyotes to try to bring down the deer population. I asked, then why do you guys deny their existence in PA? All he did was shrug and tell me the insurance industry was funding the release of the coyotes.
In 2018 I was talking to an old HS buddy. He showed me a picture of a mountain lion that he took a few days before while walking his dogs. About a 1/4 mile down the road from his house he came across his next door neighbors garbage can tipped over next to the road and two coyotes tearing it up. He got control of his dogs and saw movement out of the corner of his eye, looked over and saw a large mountain lion watching him, his dogs, and the coyotes. He took a pic with his phone and as I was looking at the pic he said, check out it's neck. I asked WTF? It was wearing a radio collar. He had talked to a game warden and asked him about mountain lions in the area. He was given the canned response that there hasn't been a mountain lion sighted in PA since blah, blah, blah. He pulled out his phone and asked, oh yeah, then explain this, and why is it wearing a radio collar? The game warden admitted to him that they had released 10 mated pairs in Western PA to help kill off the coyotes and deer, funded by the insurance industry.
All of those incidents happened within about a mile or so of each other. Believe what you believe, especially anything a government official tells you.
This series is cool!
Thanks for the videos, I really enjoy them. We have such beautiful forests in Pa. That log on the trail cam looks like it might have had turkey tail mushrooms on it. Very healthful mushroom, but you have to dry it and make a powder.
Over my 56 years , I've seen 4 mountain lions Here in Allegany county NY
there was reports of mountain lions in the Alma area of Allegany conunty NY
Best to remove the cams before the hunters hit the woods and do.
Like these type videos, more of these will be just fine.
This is an excellent progression of your channel. I really enjoy these trail cam as a general viewing and its fun to see what comes along. I would not rule out mountain lions from the area but those stories are not good. I like to keep an open mind as we think many things are gone and then one day Voila!. But I just don't want to be on the trail when that Voila! happens...LOL. Keep up the great work.
I don't need to prove it to others I know for a fact an have proof for myself that's all that matters
Everyone knows that mountain lions do not eat bacon and egg sandwiches.
They don't care for bread
Everyone also knows that if you offered a bacon n egg sandwich to a mountain lion it would definitely devour it . Just saying
Great camera locations! Looking forward to seeing more 👍
Kind of cool that you are able to put trail cams up in y’all’s parks. I think it is still legal here in Texas, but I know there is a push to follow a handful of the other states and get them banned on public land.
Hello cliff great video that was pretty cool especially that bear can't wait to see you more🦝🦌🐿👍 take care love from upstate New York
I know absolutely nothing about mountain lions however here in Australia during severe droughts for bushfire we sometimes see animals that are not usually seen in our areas animals will travel out of their normal areas if their food source is very low. So to me it's always a possibility I guess that a lion could pass through if looking for food
An estimated 20,000 big cats are held by private owners in the USA. That is the guess. This includes tigers, lions, cheehtas, leopards, lynx, cougar. Then you have zoos. Anything could be running around. But Cougars have clearly been moving east since at least the 70's. As suburbia expands and as America becomes less "hunter" the Cougars have safe corridors to pursue the abundant deer populations. They are here you can bet. Large breeding populations are in the future, but they are logically in Pennsylvania and there have been many credible sightings by hunters in PA.
I know of people that saw mountain lions.
Cool video Thanks for sharing
Used to run the ridge in Strodes Mills up behind my Grams house. I know what tracked me and my brother out of the woods I don’t care what the game commission tries to claim.
Loved those camera images you showed. Those animals were gorgeous. Hope lions are never found worried they will be hunted. The stories were nice but not convincing. Thank you so much for this share. Please take care
Loved this! That was a good idea to put the cams by the log. The bear at the beginning surprised me. It looked like a bear or something rather big and black going up the hill on the left side. I couldn't see a tail if itvwas a raccoon. I believe there are mountain lions here,why not? Wouldn't that be awesome if you caught one on the cam? Good clear videos, too. Be safe❤❤❤❤
thank Cliff!
great stuff 👍🏾😉
It's possible that mountain lions are in Pennsylvania! With the amount of people and traffic in the outdoors they stay in the thickes area of travel and only venture out in the darkness of the night when people traffic is at It's lowest! Remember they are the top prededers
They like steep mountains and deep ravines! At least out west they do!
very clear footage.
Great idea on the trail cam and using the scent lure too. Not sure what the one black animal was at night on the first cam.
These were some really cool videos. A mountain lion or bobcat would have been cooler. Thank you. Please try again.
There is a gentleman who has trail cameras set up in Black Moshannon State Park. He periodically posts the videos. His channel is Bob's Pennsylvania Wildlife Camera. He has great nature footage of just about every animal you can find in Pennsylvania. No commentary, just the animals and actual nature sounds. Last year I asked if he had ever gotten a mt. lion on camera or had he seen one. He said he had neither seen one or gotten one on camera but he knew two men who had seen a mt. lion as well as mt. lion tracks. A few years ago a mt. lion was killed (hit by car) in Connecticut. When they DNA tested it turned out it came from South Dakota. Unless it went up through Canada and came down into New England it would have gone through PA. If they aren't here I have no doubt they will be eventually. There are more than enough dear in this state to support at least a transient population.
Being a penn state fans means you have heard the scream because they play it when the team scores.
Something to think about there are between 5000 and 7000 big cats held in captivity in the us , less then 10 percent are in accredited sites , meaning zoo or safari type park or rescue center . Of the other 90 percent there are probably quite a few escapes and intensional realeases . Alligators native range has never been anywhere close to pa but i think 2 or 3 have been captured in the Allegheny in the last couple of years . If there where a breeding population there would have to be way more sightings.
I had personal sightings of Cougars in the 1985 in Southern Illinois in the Shawnee National Forest in Southern Illinois. In 1988 in Tennesse on Interstate 40 just east of Jackson, Tennessee and in 1989 in Missouri along Interstate 70 just west of Columbia Missourri. Zero doubt. Every expert denied this as possible. Now retired, often in Florida in the winter, my neighbors are from Murphysboro, Illinois which is close to the Shawnee National Forest area. They are farmers. They casually confirmed the presence of Cougars, not even considering it a question. The big cats follow deer and other game. Suburbia has nuetered the hunter. The big cats have safe corridors loaded with deer and other game. Further, the average American is anything other than a keen Daniel Boone type outdoorsman. When you hear Fish and Game staff mocking the reports it makes you question their scientific curiousity, a characteristic critical to knowing what is really going on.
What I think is unless I've seen it with my own eyes I really don't know what to think
I've seen tracks in bedford county tslked to a farmer there that pics on his trail came on 2 seperate occasions showed pa game commission and they denied it be careful in those hills
Just like the coyotes and bears are moving back into their historical range, I believe mountain lions will also. Although at a slower rate since they were essentially extinct in this, and most, areas in the eastern US.
I do wildlife photography and like to read the bear and mountain lion attack books. I might have seen one years ago. There were rumors about a lion track being found in the snow back then. I was driving on a smaller road at night and an animal jumped across the road in front of me. I saw a cat shaped head and a long tail followed the body. It touched the road once. I can't say it absolutely was a lion but I know what it was not. I use to search for tracks and scat up on the mountains. While looking for animals to photograph, I see far more deer and bears near people than on game lands. So lions could be near people because their food is near people. Years ago, we had horses. Sometimes they would have scratches on their butt like something attacked them. One day I drove past someone sitting along the road just up from our horse pasture. They said they saw a mountain lion with a baby in a field that overlooked the horse pasture. I didn't see it so I don't know what they saw. I also use game cameras. I'll catch squirrels, opossums, doe, fawns, coyotes, raccoons, bears and rarely a bobcat. No lions yet. Road damaged animals... The bobcats will come first, then coyotes and then the bears. Much of the time worms (maggots?) will consume the road damaged animal and nothing else comes. I have had people insist that they saw a lion and their picture will be of a bobcat.
I have heard them before in NC. it sounds like woman screaming. A older person told me that the female will scream when they mating...IDK all I know is that someone I know there cat had
a bunch of babies and there were 3 lil Bob tail Kitti's of course I took a female she lived a very long time and she was always well cared for she lived inside and her name was Wesay ( Cherokee Indian language for wild cat))
good job have a house in morris pa lycoming/ tioga county house is at oregon hill on the mountain top guy eric that owned oregon hil winery said he saw a large cat in the road by his property one day i have heard strange noises in the woods by my house morris used to have a person that studied mountain lion existence in pa saw in article in mountain home magazine years ago need to go to north central pa
They are also in uniontown mountains
Google says the only feline predator " native" to Pennsylvania is the bobcat.
If you Google cougar historic range it was from the Pacific to the Atlantic .
Google also says men can get pregnant, so......
Didn't they say Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation too ?
Thousands of trappers in pa but nobody ever caught one of them in their traps. And the catch circle would tell the story.
It's legal to train ur tracking dogs in PA. They are getting chases and not harming the lions
And cats are amazingly smart
The experts and professionals are not free to speak the obvious.
I have personally seen 2 mt, lions, years ago, have seen tracks, many others have seen them also, one guy has pictures of one on his sandmound. Some people dont belive it, but thats there problem, i saw what i saw, screw the game commission, Dauphin county pa
It’s September 15 th all day your in the pass catch up
We have seen them in Elk county
game commission says no mountain lions in Pa, Liars
Lions are in Indiana to.! Just a fact for you!
I saw one in November 2023 about 1:30am while predator hunting.
The only place I know of that has documented pictures and reports of mountain lions east of the Mississippi (cougars) is Florida. Not that I don't believe they may exist elsewhere. There was a report when I lived in Pensacola FL that a cougar was seen jumping from a tree and heading down railroad tracks near a beach at Pensacola Bay.
Yet FL doesn't have mountains.
@@mryes413 true! Adaptation and different subspecies perhaps?
Great footage anyway.
photo/video is needed, but i am not going to pass up any possibilities of them passing through
I know that they're in Central NC
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You have no clue what you're talking about! You should visit the hardware store in Orbisonia. They had a local picture of a mtn lion in Blacklog valley. Secondly, you need to listen to the two cats in the wild and not on some stupid computer!! There's a serious difference in their screams and growls!! A bob cat isn't near as loud as a mtn lion.
I was hoping for Bigfoot
There's no mountain lions in Pennsylvania.
A mountain lion's staple diet is deer, not cows. One deer can last a mountain lion up to 2 weeks. Would be good to actually have mountain lions to curb the CWD disease in deer, and balance the animal food chain populations. All these years go by and no actual concrete mountain lion footage. Sadly, there will never be a breeding mountain lion population in PA, due to the ignorance of people, which is why they became extirpated, or geographically extinct in PA in the first place. The sightings at best would be a stray wondering male mountain lion looking for a female, here today and gone tomorrow. The closest documented mountain lion population is in Nebraska in extreme isolated areas, but sadly they are being persecuted and due to their lifecycle will never gain a foothold beyond there, so no documented population east of the Mississippi. It's pathetic how man through ignorance and selfishness has ruined the health of the natural world by taking out apex predators, which is what maintains the health of the natural world being at the top of the food chain. It would be like taking the sharks out of the ocean.
There is no mountain lions in pennslyvania
i have trapped this area for 25 years..... you are wasting your time.
Bobcats, yes. Mt. lions,, only in your imagination.
thoes nut eating pumas are fairly common.😄
have seen big cats in az co ut wy cal tn ky nc east ky and tn most in eastern states believe they travel the appalations most calve killings are coyote have investigated several people dont realy understand how stroung bobcats are or how big they get eather
Anyone with a brain knows that there are mountain lo
Iions everywhere.