Always check after a few and make sure you are staying level. If you get just a little off on one you can get a domino effect and get reallt far off if you don't check.
A lot of odd comments here. My biggest gripe is that the spacer probably gets used in all situations. I have always divided out my spaces between posts. So the balusters do not always end up with he same divisions on every job
All it takes is a few getting an 1/8 off and before you know you are way out of plumb with your balusters. Best way is to space the tops like shown and then go and plumb and nail each one. Its ok, you're learning!
That is great, and I do that all the time. What I really need to know about is how to figure out the size of that spacer block. It always takes me a long time to figure that out because I was never taught that easy mathematical method.
When I used to build decks I would do a quick lay out from the center of the rail bay with 3½" (2x4) spacing. If a spindle layout landed closer than 3¼ ish inches from the post, I would center a three and a half inch space at the center of the bay instead of a spindle. One of those two numbers was almost always really close. If it didn't work either way you can plus or minus 1/8 of an inch or so on all of the spindles or just a few that are close to the posts to make it even. The math way I used to use was to divide the handrail bay by 5 inches. That is the width of 1 spindle and a three and a half inch-ish gap. Add or subtract small increments (like an ⅛ inch) until the number that you had to change from 5 inches goes into the length of the bay without any fraction left over. From what I remember a 4-inch ball can't pass in between the spindles for code. You probably don't want to go wider than a 3⅞ inch space if you're getting inspected
They got websites now that figure that out for you. I front which one I used but all I needed to input was the length and you can actually put how much space you want in-between. It won't come out to that exactly but it will come close depending on your measurements.
Always see it done this way. Why. Over time the wood starts to rot and the spindle cones loose. Then a small kid leans against it and falls through. Spindles should be on the other side. Plus it looks a lot cleaner from the street.
See same mistake of people putting up livestock fencing. You always want the wire or rails to face inside so livestock comes in contact they push towards post that brace it and not away from it
Como profesionales tenemos q recomendar a los clientes q es mejor recomendable con tornillos galvanizados . Short cut con clavos eso no dura con los elementos en menos de un año todo está suelto . Pero bueno hay cada sudcontratista saca la vuelta . Dueños por favor supervices las obras .
Nails bend under pressure. Screws break. There is a time to use both types but usually if you’re installing deck boards you’d use screws since you’re screwing directly downward but usually for joists or balusters (like this video) nails are better because as the wood ages it will cause the wood to slightly contour and bend so nails are best for that application. Moral of the story is you definitely want to know when and where to use screws or nails.
The space between each is 3.5". Building code is no greater than 4". The nails will hold for a long time even after wood shrinkage. There is nothing wrong with this method for a DIY job. However, always make sure to start your 1st baluster in the exact middle.
Def a beginner. I see my guys using a nail gun on balusters, they are done. My fasteners need to being line and straight and same depth. Every one of the
I've used this method before, only problem you experience is when you're doing a a long run you have to check it w a level every 10 sticks or so to make sure it's plumb. Even 1/32" difference frok top to bottom will throw you off after 10 or 15 sticks
Experts weigh in. Let's hear it. Maybe the guy does this a few times stops a checks plumb/level then proceeds. We never get to see the whole process on the short video. If the customer is happy and pays them. Go to the next job. People stop being so critical. Dammmmmmm
Using nails is shit work. They will work their way back out through shrinkage and expansion. Screws only. Other than big four inch nails in the joists below.... There shouldn't be any nails in a deck. When you get bids specify exactly how you expect it done and check up on it too.
That jig works only in the middle, at the end when you have to adjust then you go free solo.. . also, nails? ewww... never used for this type of work. and i did a deck just 3 days ago.. .
Straight trash. I stoped doing this 15 years ago cause of cracking and the nails always fall out over time and do not hold when there older when someone needs them to. Two smaller head decking or trim screws. Is the only way to Pass code where I live
Obviously the way he's doing it took him probably 10 seconds longer to make than just using a "2x4 chunk", but he's gonna save that easily on the first baluster when he struggles to pull the block out instead od the jig having a handle
@@MR-ho4ro STFU, his jig is much better. Who other than you wants to grip a 3’ long 2x4 in their hand when they could be using a baluster half that size
Always check after a few and make sure you are staying level. If you get just a little off on one you can get a domino effect and get reallt far off if you don't check.
Can’t agree with you more
Never nail em always screw them on and yes keep a level handy
I finish nail then screw. Makes production faster.
@@austinlevi3452 Absolutely
Honestly when you work in the trades "tips" like this are just the way you do things.
Hahah I feel that
Wonderful idea, great time saver.
Always make a jig for any repetitive work. I do.
Great idea, thanks for sharing!!!
Look to me like you need a post in there. That wobbly as hell.
Looking great
Whenever I run a rail I stretch a string from one end to the other and temporarily set a few ballisters to get it straight.
I like that spaceing device , makes it alot easier now for my next baulsters job, now no more dot drops lmao
Not allowed to use nail in Canada two screws top and bottom and just use a 2x4 for spacing
He did use a 2x4. He just put a 2x2 on it for a handle
Nanny state BS
Maybe strap a level/plumb on your spacer and check'em as you go 🤙
Or be sure to Sq the area
He should run a line at the top, to get that bow out. He's doing good though!
If the first one is level and you are butting to it why wouldn't the rest be level
Makes no sense. Common sense. If you level the first one, and the spacer is equal……. Get it yet? Come on.
Nice tip, Thanks.
Finally, the inventor of the spacer is revealed
Splitting the wood has left the chat.
Good tip saludos Desde Texas
A lot of odd comments here. My biggest gripe is that the spacer probably gets used in all situations. I have always divided out my spaces between posts. So the balusters do not always end up with he same divisions on every job
Awesome!
I haven't got to build pt railings in like ten years put up a lot of vinyl railings thince then though
Good idea but 1/16 of an inch off 16 times is an inch off in the end. Just keep an eye on them as you go.
staining or painting each board before installation saves effort.
Thanks for sharing.
Great idea, but your cameraman is totally blocking the nailing part
All it takes is a few getting an 1/8 off and before you know you are way out of plumb with your balusters. Best way is to space the tops like shown and then go and plumb and nail each one. Its ok, you're learning!
The first one better be level too - lol 😆 imagine if the first one wasn't 😂
That is great, and I do that all the time. What I really need to know about is how to figure out the size of that spacer block. It always takes me a long time to figure that out because I was never taught that easy mathematical method.
When I used to build decks I would do a quick lay out from the center of the rail bay with 3½" (2x4) spacing. If a spindle layout landed closer than 3¼ ish inches from the post, I would center a three and a half inch space at the center of the bay instead of a spindle. One of those two numbers was almost always really close.
If it didn't work either way you can plus or minus 1/8 of an inch or so on all of the spindles or just a few that are close to the posts to make it even.
The math way I used to use was to divide the handrail bay by 5 inches. That is the width of 1 spindle and a three and a half inch-ish gap. Add or subtract small increments (like an ⅛ inch) until the number that you had to change from 5 inches goes into the length of the bay without any fraction left over.
From what I remember a 4-inch ball can't pass in between the spindles for code. You probably don't want to go wider than a 3⅞ inch space if you're getting inspected
They got websites now that figure that out for you. I front which one I used but all I needed to input was the length and you can actually put how much space you want in-between. It won't come out to that exactly but it will come close depending on your measurements.
Well friend the secret formula is long division. It has never failed me in 45 years.
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That’s one hell of a wide deck! 😮😮😮
What do you mean by wide, i think the deck looks fine
Nice how I was taught
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I like the template
Always see it done this way. Why. Over time the wood starts to rot and the spindle cones loose. Then a small kid leans against it and falls through. Spindles should be on the other side. Plus it looks a lot cleaner from the street.
That is a right! You got a point there 👍🏽
Disagree. Ive never had any spindles rot or come loose
Buuut it's easier right there.
See same mistake of people putting up livestock fencing. You always want the wire or rails to face inside so livestock comes in contact they push towards post that brace it and not away from it
You have obviously never pulled a ringshak galvy out.
In the US everything is probably stapled with nail guns. The whole country seems to be held together only by rusty nails and tape....
Como profesionales tenemos q recomendar a los clientes q es mejor recomendable con tornillos galvanizados . Short cut con clavos eso no dura con los elementos en menos de un año todo está suelto . Pero bueno hay cada sudcontratista saca la vuelta . Dueños por favor supervices las obras .
Hmmmm idk what part of us you live in but usually stainless steel deck screws in the states I’ve lived in
Tell that to the empire state building.
@@am3rikan84 probably W.Virginia or Kentucky...😂😂
Nails bend under pressure. Screws break. There is a time to use both types but usually if you’re installing deck boards you’d use screws since you’re screwing directly downward but usually for joists or balusters (like this video) nails are better because as the wood ages it will cause the wood to slightly contour and bend so nails are best for that application. Moral of the story is you definitely want to know when and where to use screws or nails.
find center so spacing is even on each end and should use a bigger nail gun 😂
That is how I do it to so easy no thinking
If you are gonna use nails just put one in the top until you get the bottom nailed and nothing is in a bind
May God bless you my good brother that's how you do God bless you my good brother with skills and then
Looks good from my house
Nice spacer rig. Screws work better.
Nice job, only if your using stainless steel fasteners. ACQ lumber will destroy galvanized nails in 2 years
Jig it my boy!
Bevel you spacer slightly, it will be easier to pull out
If you are over 3ft off the ground, don't do it like this. Someone will get hurt.
The space between each is 3.5". Building code is no greater than 4". The nails will hold for a long time even after wood shrinkage. There is nothing wrong with this method for a DIY job. However, always make sure to start your 1st baluster in the exact middle.
@@shannonp4037 Depends on the length of each certain rail… some you may center the spindle, others you may have to center the spacer
BS. If one gets loose and a child pushes against it, the neighbor spindles will prevent an accident. Bunch of Nanny’s.
I use this method all the time. But I flip the jig every baluster. Fucked my self once using 2 pieces of slightly different sized lumber.
That great
But they will be loose after twenty years
no thats just common sense that alot people dont have now a days llmao
Screws are way better... I've never used nails on them.
Screws? Hit it with a finishing nailer; 15-16 gauge, 2” maybe 2 1/2”… less noticeable Aka (clean work) less chance of splitting the baluster.
1st comment i see, read my mind, nice jig and all but, nails?
I just finished up a deck 3 days ago. I pre drill and use 2" screws. Nails always come loose.
@@EscobarJ1970 no
Pre drill
What kind of nails are you using when I use the 2” they always seem to crack or split
Buddy which nail u using
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Nope. You need screws guy. Those nails will be pulling out in a few years, with the weather and expansion/contraction cycles.
Def a beginner. I see my guys using a nail gun on balusters, they are done. My fasteners need to being line and straight and same depth. Every one of the
I feel sorry for your guys
You the type to pay $10 an hour and expect the guy to give you $30 worth.
You won’t see them. They’re working. You are gabbing on your phone.
Hello Mr. George how much do you pay for the for the old guy ?
I want to see the one space
I believe it’s the width of a 2x4
Se está mirando bien chido y seguro para los kids no se caigan
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Nice spacer, but you darn well those nails close to the ends split them pickets bro
Que medida son esas barrotes
What size nails you using
how long of a run is that section between posts
Lol - it's to Mexican Code - of four feet, plus or minus !
Emphasis on the "plus "
Lol
The harder you push the harder you have to pull
Thank you for not nailing 50 nails in one area😞😞😞
Nails dont meet code here of I'd be nailing them for damn sure
Smart. Is it level ?
You mean plumb?
The gun is bigger than this homie😂😂😂 my lord
I dont like the nail way. It is so hard to replace or repair later.
Ponle tornillos wey se puede caer un niño si se desclava!!
How are you nailing it twice and still able to the lower portion?
The nails are like an inch apart. Plenty of play to 3 feet down
I've used this method before, only problem you experience is when you're doing a a long run you have to check it w a level every 10 sticks or so to make sure it's plumb. Even 1/32" difference frok top to bottom will throw you off after 10 or 15 sticks
@@dimebagtonyfinnahit9716 it's plumb in this situation, level would be way off
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Gracias viejo 👍🏽
Might wanna straighten that rail and nails are no good especially with the baulisters on the outside
Experts weigh in. Let's hear it. Maybe the guy does this a few times stops a checks plumb/level then proceeds. We never get to see the whole process on the short video. If the customer is happy and pays them. Go to the next job. People stop being so critical. Dammmmmmm
Screws v2a? And Level?😅😅😅😅
Your fired, taking way to long on those pickets
Using nails is shit work. They will work their way back out through shrinkage and expansion. Screws only. Other than big four inch nails in the joists below.... There shouldn't be any nails in a deck.
When you get bids specify exactly how you expect it done and check up on it too.
That’s handrails is way to long following code
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We stopped using nails on balusters 20 years ago.
That jig works only in the middle, at the end when you have to adjust then you go free solo.. .
also, nails? ewww... never used for this type of work. and i did a deck just 3 days ago.. .
Balusters go on the inside smh 😮
Not code here. Got to pre drill then screw around here crown
Straight trash. I stoped doing this 15 years ago cause of cracking and the nails always fall out over time and do not hold when there older when someone needs them to. Two smaller head decking or trim screws. Is the only way to
Pass code where I live
Nice job nail gun nails don't come out easy nor do they spilt the wood
Is slow just mark them is faster
Or you can just use a 2x4 chunk 😅
Obviously the way he's doing it took him probably 10 seconds longer to make than just using a "2x4 chunk", but he's gonna save that easily on the first baluster when he struggles to pull the block out instead od the jig having a handle
@@2004jessiehs sounds like a personal problem lulz never had an issue
@@MR-ho4ro STFU, his jig is much better. Who other than you wants to grip a 3’ long 2x4 in their hand
when they could be using a baluster half that size
Nails no no
La haces mucho de pedo para ponder los barrotes es de lo mas facil hacer ese tipo de barandal
Don't hate. As long as it's less than 4" apart. It meets specifications.
Hack
so lazy put a block to stop the sagging instead of a post
Hack fest
get a leveler 🤦🏻♂️
What spacing is in between ? Thanks In advance
Depending on your ordinance its usually 4 inches wide. So a kids head wont get stuck
Screw not nail, amateur!
To slow
Go home spi
Always use trim head screws, not nails. I haven't used nails since 1993
Put on some PPE! EYES DON'T GROW BACK!
Looks good, but it's backwards. You should have nailed it and attached the rails on the other side 🤦♂️