Is It Possible To Defeat Colin??
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Is It Possible To Defeat Colin??
This is a replay commentary of a game played over at AWBW, a website that allows you to play Advance Wars against other human opponents.
#advancewars #multiplayer #nintendo - Ігри
"Name something more satisfying than shooting a Rocket with a Mech." How about... shooting a Rocket with a Mech... _from Mountains?_
How about shooting a pipe runner with a mech.
Not as satisfying since rockets don't shoot back.
Shooting a rocket with a Sami mech.
@@amanofnoreputation2164 shooting a rocket as a sensei mech
@@royalghost4914 shooting a rocket as a Lash mech on mountains while prime tactics is active
Don't mess with us Colin mains, we have more digits in our bank accounts than braincells
you made my day sir XD
amen
so you have 10$?
Colin mains invested in Gamestop.
That is like an insult for the other Colin players that are actually good Colin players.
"That rocket has shot on me many times, I don't know why I didn't notice it"
"They should have known I had a rocket, I used it to shoot on them"
Manga Moment
@@Aodhanbaby At this time, the massive difference between his moves and that of his oponent are part of the charme for me :)
One of the downsides of AWBW not showing combat scenes.
Tbh usually you're expecting an artillery when some indirect hit you on the frontline
While Mangs'es Rocket is literally near a captured base, which should be obvious
The duality of man
Fun fact : Colin's -10% firepower comes, in the lore "from his lack of experience". You know, it kinda reflects on Colin "mains"
I always thought that was because his units were "Made in China" for lack of a better term. Like, the weapons and vehicles were manufactured cheaply, so their quality suffered.
@@purplekt1722 Same.
@@purplekt1722 I think it's reflective of USSR considering Blue Moon is based off USSR with conscripts (cheap recruitment cost, lack of training) and mass-produced tanks (usually cut the corner to speed up production).
**Stares at Med. Tanks (T-72, T-90 MBTs) pictures of their turret flying**
@@ardantop132na6 that not a very fair comparison consider T-72 and T-90( which is just a modernised T-72) are both pretty old tank platform from cold war , you gotta remembered that for it time of debut the T-72 is a really good tank whose Western counter part are Leopard 1 , M60 , Chieftain ,... All of which are completely out class by the T-72 infact for a good part of the cold war NATO was playing catch up until the Abrams/Challenger tank which are way after the T-72.
@@huyhoangtahuu9733 I just wanna say that old doesn't always mean obsolete (M2 Browning is still do a good job being HMG, century years old). I think in theory, T-72 and T-90 could fight Abrams (if not for Depleted Uranium armor) and Challenger.
And the reason I put the T-72 / T-90 is a jab towards Russian tank that were destroyed a lot as if Colin were commanding them.
Colin's Battle Copters cost 7200, so less than your AA.
Building copters to force your opponent to build AA is actually not a bad move for a Colin player, provided you can lure the enemy AA out into range of your indirects.
Yes. This player however, just kept running his battle copters into my anti-air.
I guess he was hoping to drain their ammo? Sounds like something a Colin player would do.
@@Mangs1337 That's peak Zapp Brannigan logic.
@@Mangs1337 actually battle copters cam take a good engagement on anti air provided that the anti air attacks first.
@@Mangs1337 Please make an AWBW Discord!
People who can't fight you could fight eachother, and it would help grow/improve the community.
@@Mangs1337 So you're saying Jess is the hard counter to Colin? Hmm.
One tip you didn't mention: against Colin, do as much damage as possible when he is using his power. While his power is active, any damage he receives won't build up his power meter, and it's so valuable since the units he builds with his power will generate even more power meter and it snowballs like crazy it's so stupid :[ it's basically the only way to get rid of his units permanently, otherwise they just keep regenerating.
Should apply to Sensei and Hachi, too, no?
I usually go as colin for the power of money super and go for the firepower boost to flatten people but let's not forget the legendary match between colin and kembi colin's green troops v kembi's imperial guard. :P
@@Komatik_ It honestly applies to just general gameplay. If you can launch a punishing counterattack while your enemy is using their power, they won’t get anything out of it.
Also important to apply pressure at all times. Part of what makes Colin so strong is that his power has no cap. If you have a million funds you will get half a million from his power. If you don't force Colin to spend all his money then it will just build up and he'll eventually crush you.
Mangs demonstrated in this video that if you can beat Colin on unit count by a wide enough margin, you don't need to beat him on unit value too.
1:49 "You don't want to use Prime Tactics. Instead use Prime Tactics"
Oofffffff
Depends on the situation
At least he say "use her super"
Mangs dislikes terrain tactics so much he doesn't even pronounce its name 🤣
I love Metroid Prime
Coming from Days of Ruin, where they teach you early on not to just throw away your soldiers' lives, just to see Colin throwing them into the meat grinder is honestly depressing.
@Simple Weirdo That explains why Sasha deletes CO Powers, and why she teaches Colin in Dual Strike.
She's seen how Caulder works.
Coming from days of ruin, that battleship scared the crap out of me...
I still have nightmares of that one time my brother managed to defeat me with sigismundo or whatever his name is in the other version.
Yo I remember that game. Screw that pompadour wearing jerk with the aviators.
Also I’m new to this channel, how’s mangs playing this game online? Is it some fan project like that fire emblem sacred stones one I heard of?
@@purpledragon2442 He's playing through Advance Wars By Web.
He put the link in the description.
he was roleplaying as early ww2 russian general.
Colin is really annoying on maps with airports cause his 7000 cost unit forces you to buy an 8000 cost unit
Whats an airport again?
@@nonymouswisp8176 how did I not expect this
Good point. If the player uses the Bcopter well, it’s very valuable.
Ive been playing advanced wars alpha which has a lot of new cos but there basicly just reworked commanders and they made the Colin equivalent fair
@@thundermaster4247 How do you make a Colin fair?
This is why Andy is a great introduction commander to the game. Play like Andy. Save your units.
I really wish Andy had Rachel's day to day power of +1 repair on cities. It fits so well with his healing based CO Powers.
@@SoulHero7 It fits with his overall character tho, I actually remember playing AW2 and think that Andy needed that Day2Day power without knowing Rachel existed and did that xd.
I'm Andy main all day
@@SoulHero7 That would be anti-synergistic with his power and super, because on a turn where he wants to use them to repair, any unit on building would spend lots of funds to be repaired, reducing the value of his hyper repair or hyper upgrade significantly.
@@garagavia That's also another reason I want him to have that day-to-day power. For novices, it makes them quickly realize the advantages of repairing units to hold positions and the disadvantages of repairing units because of bad planning. Learning this lesson early on a CO that can both cover your mistakes and press the advantage with the same CO Power is worth it imo.
I love that the most expensive units tend to have garbage vision. It can be pretty tempting to buy the big guns, but they can't do shit if you don't have the cheap stuff to support them.
Let's see a "Hachi main" give it a shot.
lol Hachi is basically Colin on steroids
Hachi is like the 2nd best co in the game behind aw2 sturm, the ppl would have to be really terrible at the game to lose. Colin here lost cause he didnt have enough bases to spawn lower tier units. Hachi doesnt have that problem with his super power, this would have been even more 1 sided if the other ppl picked hachi and spawned recons to fix his vision or infinity outta nowhere.
@@azensama7508 Hachi is actually Colin from the Future when he gets experienced but his money starts running out.
On awbw sturm is actually 80/120 and not 120/120 so Hachi is better
@@truegamer_007 that makes a lot of sense
Aaah, I love Mangs-math. "In addition to having 20% more troops, because they are 20% cheaper." Mangs. Just... no. It's actually 25% more troops. The math behind it is pretty simple (solve: 0.8*p=1), but to make it easier to visualize, you can think about it this way: with 4000 funds any CO will get 4 infantry, but Colin will get 5 (25% more). The confusion is here because calculating costs with percentages is not entirely intuitional (e.g. the current price is 50% higher than the old one, so it means the old price was 33% lower than the current one; a lot of people get caught out on things like this)
Still, love all of your videos on AW (not much of an FE fan here) and I'm slowly going through the older ones, so I might throw some random comments in the older vids here and there.
Nerd
@@Mangs1337 Actually, yes xD.
Maths was always my strong point. That and programming :D
Yes but how do you get more infantry if you don’t have enough bases to get them
@@lienesauserde7419ah, yes! Colin should have bases of his own!
He may have been too aggressive. One of Colin's strengths is the unstoppable snowball he can get rolling, but it takes time and he was too reckless with his units starting with those 3 first tanks. Also, Lash flourishes in defensive situations where she can play around properties she controls and thrives on baiting the opponent near her good terrain. By playing more cautiously he could force Lash to take worse engagements on open ground while he himself snowballed his army way faster than Lash could.
Aye, the early game and even mid game can be dangerous for a Colin until you have a death ball... however late game, when Colin just has a line of Md. Tanks and B. Copters that doesn't seem to end that's when you know you've got it because you can start making bad trades because you will replace anything you lose.. the other can't (Colin is more like the Soviet Unions industry in WWII)
Its often strategic mistakes and not tactical that are most costly. Good analysis.
Hey manga I did the test to determine how lash and Sonja's super effect each other in dual strike.
TLDR it based of who uses their super first.
If lash goes first counter break reduces the doubled terrain stars.
If Sonja goes first then prime tactics doubles the reduced terrain stars.
This is excellent to know. Good stuff.
That's super cool, because that means whoever gets the first draw has the advantage.
Neat
Oh that's nice intel. If that's the case then a Sonja player can use his Super Power if Lash's Power Meter is almost full. It might discourage Lash to pop hers during her turn. It's good since you basically manipulated her power meter to overflow during your attack and she can't even retaliate immediately during hers because of terrain penalty and also Sonja's scary counter-break.
I guess this is why Colin is still considered a novice in Dual Strike, Colin mains exactly like what Colin would do. lol
Colin: sending men to their deaths in wave assaults
Olaf: ... we're going back to the basics again
@@BurningFyre grit: sit back, crack a cold one and watch the enemy get turned to ground Meat
@@BurningFyre Well it's not like Colin ever runs out of units.
Really insane, that colin threw away at least 10 units and had awful build choices and was still able to hold on for the whole time limit. Colin really is just playing with his own ruleset against all but the most broken commanders.
Black hole clone colin
"so I build my battleship as a glorified black cannon and start blasting"
also
"whats a recon?"
Ah i forgot that you like advance war to point you make short with wargroves
Rich people play by a whole different set of rules.
"I don't need recon vision if I have 6-range battleship, right?"
Smart Colin Players
"Alright, I've still got a good few recons around, all of them with solid health, and with all the money I've saved, I can make some Md. Tanks to back them up and clear the way for my infantry, and the fighter I just made can help wipe out their harassing B. Copters..."
Recon is too cheap. Rush megatanks!
Flashing ammo rocket: Was I a good rocket?
APC: Here, takes some ammo and continue to fight for the motherland.
As a Lash main I cannot agree more about using air units as Lash.
I went against a Grit and used BCopters to force him to build AA in the early game instead of Artillery. And that means he was building lots of ground units to counter my air units, and Lash excels at fighting ground units.
If you're playing as Lash, use your air units as literal air support and force the opponent to play on your terrain.
Between the fact that Mangs uses lots of black hole COs and the fact that he is really good (never immagined that i would say this phrase) makes me think Mangs is actually Sturm
Have you ever seen Mangs and Sturm in a room together? I think not.
@@ultimafia new video: "why Sturm is my true main in AW"
Mangs is below the starting elo in AWBW ranked games lol.
No, Rachel is Sturm.
@@gregorylu He is below starting elo? Does that mean under the 50% cutoff? That really surprises me, even if I notice mistakes and stuff. On the other hand, he showed in a recent Fire Emblem death compilation that he ended his own run by bringing Elincia to the final mission.
How to defeat Colin? Play a pre-deployed map without bases.
He still has funds and power of money. Could still be dangerous.
Use Kanbei for good measure.
Just play against a bad player.
Use Hachi and beat him at his own game
@@QuantemDeconstructor "Map without bases? Let me just use my Super Power then."
Colin would be a rich kid gatcha player who would throw away his out of meta units
His sister Sasha would invest in the stock market at a level where she knows how to make a small profit
Hachi would be the guy who owns the stock market
Amazed at how many mistakes a Colin player can make and still be in the game.
Imagine what happens when Colin grows up and "gets experience." Literal demigod
Gold rush Doubles Money instead of 1x5
@@TKHedgeHog lol
Has infinite money
You mean Hachi?
Yes, it exists and its is Hach i;)
"And now he's making the biggest mistake of the match right here."
Mangs, after learning that my dad is about to make me.
I blame the Advance Wars Story Campaign/AI for devaluing Recon units. Enemy AI seems to ignore FOW unless you are in a forest, and even then they tend to know exactly where to scout out, so it often feels like "What is the point in spending 4k on a unit that is going to get picked apart by tanks that shouldn't have been able to see them anyway?".
You're right, the Advance Wars 1 and 2 AI cheats in FoW. Only forests and reefs are hidden form them, the rest of the battlefield is just visible.
"Colin is not strong because his units are expendable. Colin is strong because he gets more value more often".
I love these advanced wars online replays. I don’t play this game at all but it’s fun to watch even if I’m lost on some of the basic aspects.
It's actually a fun game even with just against AI.
Me: Have mercy Mangs, he's just a boy...
Mangs: "I know, that is why I play Lash ;-) "
Me: "No mercy! No mercy at all!"
Meanwhile Sturm mains are like rocking up to a CSGO major with an aimbot.
Hachi mains are playing with wallhacks
Then there's the chad Flak mains
@@wolfspider2034 Flak/Jugger mains crabwalk with dualies
If you compare Advance wars to CSGO I will say Sturm is the guy with bhop script and gets vest and helmet for free while Hachi never ecos because all of the items are cheap for him
As a Sturm main I AGREE minus the aimbot more like we’d buy the famas so the new guy can enjoy the M4
Playing that 14 turn mission in advance wars 2 showed me the power of this rich boy. Its too cheap.
Me with 4 Neotanks by the end: *awwww its already over?*
You mean the mission you can win by not doing anything?
If it was 3 or 4 weeks you could definitely win by routing Lash. I recreated the hard campaign version in the design room and it took about that long.
@@leoneldiaz78I've been wanting to do that for 20 years, it always ended just as I was about to demolish the enemy.
You beat colin sure, but you *do not outlast him*.
You screwed it up, there has to be a space before any other character, e.g: space asterisk text asterisk space not: space asterisk text asterisk text
@@gabrielc7861you could make text darler with 2 asterisks on the side
@@ShrimpRice that's what they're referring to
@@lightningkitten ?
@@ShrimpRice he's saying you didn't place the asterisks correctly to bold the text
Mangs: is it possible to defeat colin?
Me who checks him profile daily: yeah, it sure is
lol I was browsing through his games when I first made an account a couple days ago and saw the game there as well
It's my sleepover and I get to choose which Little Stalin gets beaten to a pulp
Something more satisfying: a mech on a mountain attacking a rocket.
Only if it’s Lash for the firepower. Which I assume is what you meant since Mangs is using Lash
I would guess destroying a Eagle(CO) bomber with an missle/anti-air
a mech on a mountain attacking a rocket---with LASH
"We traded a infantry for a infantry"
- Wait hold on. Didn't he join-cap to get that tower? That means he lost 2 infantry and not 1.
My fav unit in Fire Emblem is fe7 Athos Reverse Recruitment
My fav unit in advance wars is Pre-deployed Megatank.
My fav unit in Heroes is [Insert whoever is the shiny new unit that just got released].
That's Colin. That's how it feels to play Colin
Athos in reverse recruitment, my favorite Jagen!
Actually I prefer a pre-deployed Bomber :)
my fav unit in aw would be a stealth bomber or black bomb, those 2 are always banned in awbw for good reason. Steath bomber can only be targeted by the airplanes and are so annoying, black bomb is too easy to get value outta.
@@bienhy5120 Those Indirect Bombers from that AW2 hack, Andy's Adventure.
@Xenav14 Those are Kalf's day-to-day, nothing to do with Colin.
It's hilarious how busted he would be if we got an 20-yr-old Colin in Advance Wars 3 with at least 100% Firepower and 100% Defense. Colin would be the next generation's Hachi for sure.
Adult Colin is *just* Hachi, after Hachi finally retires.
And Sami turns into Sensei, except with +50% cap rate.
And Sturm already got into Vtubing.
Advance wars 5. Advance wars 3 is dual strike, and advance wars 4 is days of ruin.
@@DS-tv2fi I count days of ruin as a completely different saga, so I think of It like a "DLC" on the Far Future of that world.
@@kaynanbirro7277 Headcanon: Days of ruin is if Sturm won
Next video: "I went up agaisnt a Jugger main (I lost?!)"
Impossible unless he's playing himself
"I had a good strategy, I was winning, but then Jugger collapsed my front line by crashing Infantry and Recon into my Md. Tanks and Battle Copters, and I never recovered.
Jugger has the potential to get huge value out of System Crash, similar to Lady Luck, but he doesn't average THAT much damage, a lucky Jugger can probably take rounds off some COs
Even though juggler is bottom of the barrel he might just get lucky turns against you with his super even if he might do 0 damage. Luck based cos are kinda hard to grade cause they might just get super lucky and blow you off the map or miss you completely (do 0 damage) but it does avg to pretty terrible damage most of the time and they dont get extra movement on power use.
Losing to Jugger is like losing to Bender from Futurama.
I'm a Max main.
In AW1.
😂
Don't fuck with us Max mains, we haven't seen the daylight in years.
@@ShrimpRice burried in whey powder.
@@ShrimpRice hey dood is funny because it's true.
When I was still younger and played this game a long time ago, and playing through the campaign, and when MAX started to be introduced I was like YEP HE'S THE ONE, I'm going to play him as much as I can (as possible, only if Indirects are not necessary element) throughout the campaign. You know the feeling of being young wanting to become a sort of Strong man like having forces and literally just crush through enemies with brute force. But then, AW2 and AW:DS came and slowly I noticed I was getting bad with Max(?) so I kinda lost interest and went for other CO's. Years after, specifically after watching Mangs' CO tier list, I realized Max got nerfed bad and bad for the succeeding Advance Wars game and that was actually sad that it might have been the reason I lost the love on Max years ago.
Pick top tier
Colin is like Soldier in TF2. Either everyone mains him or have him in their back pocket just in case.
Yasuo in LoL. Either dominates or being dominated
*has never played colin outside of the campaign*
@@AntizombiRUS oh god so that means that colin is the yasuo of AW?
How poetic
Soldier is literally shoot feet, it’s not hard to have it in the back pocket
@@michaelcashed3777 Same goes for Colin. Buy units and use money power every time it's available.
Advance Wars is played like any other strategy game: when ahead, *get more ahead.* Colin *starts out ahead,* so if you just play him the same as any other CO but with better units sooner, it should theoretically be impossible to lose.
"...that's how it feels like to go up against Colin in Advance Wars."
If so, going up against Hachi is like fighting an administrator account in a Gatcha game who basically has cheats active.
Yes
If there is a phrase that perfectly encapsulates Colin's style of optimal play, it would be this eternal maxim of warfare:
_"Children_ study tactics. _Men_ study logistics."
What makes Colin so strong is his ability to pad out some seriously strong logistics chains during the course of the battle all because he is able pump out an enormous amount of units. Compared to the other COs, it isn't even a question as to who can produce the most units when Colin captures locations at the same rate his opponent does, and guards those locations well.
I ain't no "Colin Main," and I'm certainly no pro of AW either (I'm a noob, at best) but even a thick simpleton like myself could see that your opponent was utterly squandering Colin's propensity toward strong logistics chains by throwing away units and defaulting to a single unit produced when he had money to burn (I.E. the b. copter spam).
Like, holy hell... I had believed it was _impossible_ to lose with Colin, but that belief was _thoroughly_ destroyed by this video.
I understand the logic behind trying so hard to deny you the airport. But it's not like you're the colin and a bomber will pop out of it.
Colin actually had the advantage at that time. He just threw away too much fodder.
1:07:50 Goodbye mvp rocket... was with us from the (freakin) start of the match. Forever in our hearts, you and your value will never be forgotten!
I'm wondering something, you insist a lot that Colin should never build units before the end of his turn, but isn't it generally a good idea to build units last with anyone anyway? I could see fringe exception like Eagle's Lightning Strike or such, but as a general rule.
Yeah absolutely.
Especialy with fog on since you can discover a new unit that you need to counter.
I think that yes because you can think that you are in a situation at the start of the turn and realize that you are in a completely different situation by the end which can change the gameplan or response.
the one exeption i can think of is a recon to get vision near your base to kill a unit that you know is around
Unless you build a Recon at the start of the turn (after using Gold Rush) to have vision.
Funny seeing comments made even though nobody would've watched the full thing by now, I'm settling down for some Advance Wars tutorials from Mangs, he's honestly helped my PvP battles a lot
Me who plays the video on 2x: I am 4 parallel universes ahead of you
I was ready to comment about fighting Colin is a survival-horror game but skipped to the end and now I'm curious what the hell happened.
34:25
"Are Stealth Bombers worth it?"
Today's replay review taught me: Early recon opener OP
False. Mangs and I fought Jake VS Adder and i had early recons. He crushed me, badly. early MD tanks in large maps are OP. They have so many escape routes.
@@multitopictalk6714 I was halfway memeing, to be fair, I'm not really suggesting they're literally OP. But I didn't make that at all clear! It just seems like early recons are usually pretty effective in most of these games Mangs has shown off. :D
Also, I haven't played any AWBW, so take anything I say with a massive pile of salt lol
What impresses me about Mang's play throughs is he almost never deploys medium tanks and still wins.
It's very tempting to build large units when you have the money. It's more effective to build smaller units at the start, and then larger ones later on in the game.
"Get ready for some missile play, guys"
Phrasing!
"have you ever played a gacha?"
Uh… uh… no. Can't say I have.
*Sweats profusely*
Neither i... Really... I-i swear ok?! 😥
@@theblackx9429 what gacha...... he is refering........?
*looks at my 6 gacha games* yeah not really
@@iambread2914 6 ? rookie numbers
This makes me want to message like, "I'm a Sturm main, but you'll beat me anyway." Cause boi, I'm not good at this game. I get stuck in the normal missions of the campaign.
Don't feel lonely there man. XD
What missions
@@soulhoney1227 In just about any mission I can't build units on, and in AW2 the missions with factories are always super close. Replaying AW2 the other day I got trounced on Sea Fortress like 4 times before just looking up a guide (and still only completed it with one half HP bomber as my only damage unit), and one of the pipeline missions came down to a MAX OWNED ROCKET taking out the seam while the AI steamrolled the base of the faction who was being invaded. I can't remember if it was Yellow Comet or Green Earth that I was allied with, but I do remember being mildly miffed that I won with a rocket built by Max because I couldn't get anything else close enough to the seam.
Edit: Since I'm still going through the campaign right now, I'll give the last mission as an example, Drake's Dilemma. I need to get these battleships down to the cannons to take them out, with the only real impediment being a couple of rockets down where the reefs aren't quite close enough to pass through. And then Hawke is sending Neotanks at my Kanbei on turn 4, I have utterly failed the capture game as two properties near the seaport to the north of Kanbei remained untaken the entire match (because literally Hawke had 4 neotanks in my area), and all I can do on land is spam tanks to pick at Hawke's forces. 22 days, 99pts in speed, 53 in power, something like that in technique for a B rank. This is normal mode, a 4 star difficulty map iirc, and I B ranked.
Last time I played any AW was in 2010. And no multiplayer so I kinda expect to get destroyed by Mangs even if I play as Hachi.
Enjoyed this! Haven't played AW2 in 15 years but oohhh man I will play so much on the Switch when it gets released!
I love your channel mate, i am here because of the remake of the 2 advance wars for switch, I am learning a lot from you, I have never imagined that this game is sooooo deep
Theres 2 games after 2 as well. Should look up days of ruin. Lol
There's also Wargroove which takes a lot of inspiration from Advance Wars
The really telling statistic about the battle is Colin's unit-count. He may have a lot of money on the field, but his battlefield presence was slipping away. High-cost units concentrate firepower, but aren't proportionally more effective. Like you said, you can't attack what you can't see, and you have to use units for roles that are "beneath" them.
That and what he had in firepowerl he lost in the ability to actually employ it. Having powerful units doesn't do you any good if you have to waste turns interrupting captures or scouting.
Hey Mangs, Have you ever thought of a Advance wars/Fire emblem "Meme Review"? It sounds like a lot of fun
Yes we need this! I have an Advance Wars meme I made if you’re interested.
twitter.com/bravebrandon440/status/1410604381427232774?s=21
These replay commentaries are my favourite thing ever, absolutely makes my day. Please keep them coming down the pipeline mangs!
AWBW's Colin is basically Dual Strike Colin, the most broken version of him.
What's the difference?
@@lagg1e He didn't changed, but the game did. In Dual Strike they are more expensive units, like Megatanks and Stealths. Besides, powers now give a +10% attack and defense( it used to be only for deffense) during the turn activated, fixing Colin's firepower during COPowers.
AWBW's Colin is based on the AW 2 Colin, and the gameplay meter mechanics is based on AW 2 too. The slower overall meter gain in AWBW usually weakens him a bit compared to the other broken COs, and makes it harder to spam COP sometimes.
These videos are so very entertaining! Funny how the remake as revived so much love for this game!
Neither Labs nor Com towers count for cap limits.
You can check at the globe when creating a game on the capture limit interrogation globe.
It won't get posted even if it happened but imagine egg getting cracked by a Flak main. Flak is 90% already a gigachad anyways if you go by looks.
I've been wondering how many games he's lost and just refuses to post them mainly because he wants to be seen as a unbeatable eggchad regardless if it could've been a good match or not. Not saying there has been or whatnot but just makes you wonder if he will actually post such a thing.
Edit- apparently he has posted a video of him losing. Didn’t realize this, obviously missed that one, my bad.
@@Mosannugget Why do people say this when he’s already posted a loss?
@@Mosannugget He's posted a loss and has talked about uploading losses in his last video. What are you even talking about?
@@Mosannugget are you the colin that lost to him? lol
@@peterhoffmann2231 nope I don’t play this game.
Game is over by 13 minutes into the video. The Colin fucked up his early capture game movement, so you can see the level of play. I really don't know what the skill level is on AWBW but most people seem to be really inexperienced.
Mangs doesnt show his games against good players for whatever reason.
I see this a lot on these replays and it definitely happened here, but it's not really the reason for the disparity here as the incomes and army values were roughly equal until around 30 minutes in when Colin just let all his tanks get first struck from properties. Colin even had an early income lead that let him afford an extra tank because he took the southernmost central city early instead of rushing the COM tower. (The army value lead after a few turns is actually representative of extra funds, not Colin's power as Mangs stated it was, since it reflects the actual paid cost of the army.) If Colin actually didn't get the COM tower it would have mattered a lot more.
@@gregorylu dude he's made like 6 vids in this series, its a little early to be saying that
@@gregorylu Its easier to see beginner mistakes by watching beginner play.
@@gregorylu yeah, hopefully he'll show even matches or hell even matches where he loses and we can learn from it as well as himself.
It's the best feeling when I get off work and see a new Advance Wars video!
I didn't even know advance wars PVP was a thing but here I am watching this fully and enjoying it.
Well played!
Today I learned that Mangs' favorite words are "incredible", "disgusting," and "insane."
45:28 that tank wasn't in your vision prior to moving your tank
Take a shot every time Mangs says "Ridiculous"
As a Colin main, I can relate with the Cobra Car analogy. It was my main unit as well, lol.
58:35 DAMN, that line was brutal. You're EVIL! 🤣
Collin's weaker units can't push through your direct combat units, so you should build indirects.
Kanbei's units are too strong to go cost effective against him, so you should build indirects.
Knowledge acquired: Always build indirects
It would be extremely painful … for you.
My favorite internet video is "2 properties, 2 tanks"
Loved this video!
I would love to see more videos with closely matches games explained in depth.
I play a lot of competitive Pokémon games, and I think in that too there's a lot of interesting things to say when content creators can explain the thought processes behind both themselves and their opponents. Respecting an opponent is big for growing the community.
loving that Mangs references AoE2 haha
I’d really like to see some of that ”hit-and-run” Eagle play you bring up once in a while. Would love to see how it really looks and works in a match.
I felt like some AW content and found your channel. Thanks. I always used Colin when this game came out lol
It was very enjoyable, thank you
idk how you made it, but your commentary is really high quality, so even ppl that doesn't play the game, can enjoy the gameplay
Well wouldn't mind taking a shot lol. I mean I play Colin, though I have been playing the other COs, but as Colin, even on the Campaign, I preserve my units. The reason why is because of not only to be able to scout, but to also join for more money if I need to do a bit of a trade. I do see the plan behind of making powerful units, but you kind of need the support to help x.x It's why even on Days of Ruin, I have flares and rig units. Flare to help with the scouts (along with recons) while the rig, even if there aren't any airports, it's' like a safe bunker for the units to go to in FoW since that game, the units are treated as if they're in woods if they are in buildings
As much as I hate tier 0 play, would you consider trying a high level, high tier character battle to teach us about higher tier characters?
Colin is very simple, but his advantage gives him an edge in so many ways that it adds up fast: that twenty percent extra money to play with allows him either to make better trades with you in spite of his firepower debuff, or lets him field more advanced units than you can earlier.
And he can press this advantage constantly.
In the early game, he can field more infantry than you can.
In the middle game, he can field recons earlier than you can, tanks earlier than you can, and artillery earlier than you can.
And by the end game he has all of the advantage he was able to accumulate in the prior stages of the game plus he can afford MD tanks, bombers, and battleships earlier than you do.
In *theory* you can overturn Colin's advantage if you get in their early and make some really good trades, but this never pans out because as we've seen, Colin's cheaper units doesn't just make his units more efficient and numerous -- it makes his entire strategy *faster* and he only amasses more of a lead with each turn before battle is even joined.
And then he has really good CO powers on top of this so that even if you play your cards right and kill a bunch of units -- he can just pop his power, throw some money on the ground, and buy them back to life again -- with a 10% defense buff. *With interest.*
If anything, the squishyness of Colin's units winds up making them *stronger* because they die faster and fill his CO meter.
And if that wasn't enough, he has a super power that, while not as busted as his regular power, still allows him to negate his one weakness; a lack of firepower, by filling the barrels of his guns with high explosive wads of cash.
It's like he was designed to be broken, but through landslide of oversights he turned out to be ten times more broken than he was even intended to be.
It's like with Kanbei: 20% more expensive units for 30% extra firepower *sounds* like a fairly even trade giving Kanbei a modest advantage, but it really isn't because of how defense is calculated *last* and gets subtracted from whatever damage total your opponent has. Even without a firepower boost, the defense buff would probably be enough to make Kanbei a B rank CO.
I just want to thank you Mangs for uploading these gameplay / commentary from AWBW! They're as entertaining as they are informative, and it's always a highlight of my day to see :D
It's kinda weird that Lash is taking great care not to pointlessly sacrifice her units while Colin just carelessly throws them in the meat grinder.
Colin never learned the value of a dollar
1:15:57 Too bad Colin couldn't literally buy himself more time, he did a great job holding out at the end
but POG lash won
Thanks for including relevant links (map included) in the description!
I love how this has the phrasing of a 'is it possible to beat X game without doing Y?' challenge video, except you're literally just playing a multiplayer match against a broken CO
Colin Player: *starts match"
Mangs: "This was his biggest mistake of the game right here."
Honestly, Grey Skies is very fitting for Colin.
One of the things I've always wondered about Colin was whether it was better to use his power to just give you an extra 50% income every few turns, or whether you should try to save it up and earn compound interest.
Compound interest is extremely powerful once it gets going, but getting units onto the field also "earns interest" in the sense that a unit NOW is much more valuable than a unit Tomorrow.
Saving money now means more money later, but deploying more units means you get enough forces to avoid defeats and grab some victories. Which compounding effect is more powerful?
"If you ever run out of ammo on your rocket, congratulations, that was a good rocket." Brother, I'm a Grit main, ALL my rockets are good rockets.
Hey Mangs, I've been wondering, does Colin's -20% cost on units counts towards repairs as well?
Like repairing 2HP of an infantry costs 200 (1000/10 *2) would that mean that Colin's infantry costs 160? (800/10 *2)
Yes! They also charge your power meter slower when you kill them.
@@Mangs1337 rlly, as if he wasn't already broken
Hello again Mangs. Congrats on almost 91k Subs now. Keep on being awesome
I've never even been a big Advance Wars fan, but these videos are so good! Reminds me of the glory days of Pokemon battle replays, it's always fascinating to become familiar with the competitive meta of a game series you thought you knew.
Loving this series so far, I actually went back to play AWBW because of you (and the switch remake too...), I haven't played it since 2018 and it sure has changed. (I'm main Lash, glad to see you using her. :-) )
I have a feeling this guy doesn’t like Colin.
I’m only on turn 2 and I can already tell Colin is gonna have a bad time lol
Why tho
@@DarkRedZane Player 2 can get the base before Player 1, because they start with an infantry, and yet they burned a turn taking the weird way around, and also they built a turn 2 recon instead of more infantry. If he had delayed the wasted recon, instead of building a second recon later to contest Mangs' recon, he could have built a tank. Base cost of tank is 7k, recon costs 4k, infantry 1k, so the extra 3k saved directly translates into affording a hard counter to the early recon. That plus extra infantry in the center (from not building the recon) allows him to hold more of the map space (and by extension, properties) earlier on, which allows his snowball of money to be even worse. Maybe he even could have stopped the other com tower from getting capped. Just seeing those two serious strategic errors let me know that they were gonna struggle.
@@demonzabrak Oh yes that one. You're right. I forgot it already lol.
Colin Mains rise up.
I recently got back into advance wars and ngl seeing your channel really encouraged me