How I would design Genshin's MISSING characters
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- Опубліковано 23 бер 2024
- I talk about three Genshin character archetypes I feel we are sorely missing in the game, as well as speculate on how they could be filled.
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I heavily disagree with the cyno dedicated support I’m so sorry. You can always run both nahida and baizhu in his team and then yes you will either need to give up energy by running a hydro as the 4th or quick bloom if u run electro as the 4th
@@hebislay ngl all of the characters are super useless.
the cyno support is like a way worse version of baizhu that basically locks cyno out of using furina (his best hydro applicator for quickbloom btw). the only theoretical use i can see for it is in a f2p comp but he just loses so much dmg without furina.
the xiangling alternative is pretty useless because there isnt actually a lot of demand for her from a gameplay standpoint. there are literally 3/4 decent teams that want her for pyro application. xiangling's energy issues are basically gone with 4pc emblem + er sands, and you can even stack fav weapons on ur supports for extra reassurance.
the hydro claymore is super useless (and a waste of a character with so much potential). the shielding isnt a bad idea, it could make some interesting new neuvillette teams (neuvi, kazuha, hydro claymore, sub-dps). but the whole shield break niche thing is just useless, not even just "a little" off-meta. there isnt a single boss in the game that has a shield so annoying to break that you'd need a whole kit dedicated to shield breaking.
@@hebislay Baizhu just doesn't cut to it really though. single target dendro is not good enough for cyno's AOE. He'd still exist for those that prefer him but i still think Cyno deserves something other than second best
@@Not_Sheo I mean ur dedicated cyno support is still being played with nahida so what difference does it make uk? As someone that has baizhu cyno and nahida trust me it’s very fun and cyno becomes kinda really gopd
@@hebislay I'm not saying baizhu is bad, just that he isn't suited to AOE. I've tried every Cyno comp under the sun a million times on friends' accounts (even non-dendro ones) because he's one of my absolute favorites and baizhu does not seemlessly fix this issue. You run Nahida anyway because it's a dendro comp (aka nahida's niche lol) and you want dendro resonance, which leaves one more dendro character and currently there's still opportunity for a character that is tailored for him much more than baizhu is.
I think the reason they don't fill the whole for possible kits is the fact that they're planning for at least more 4 years worth of characters and delaying the gap is more favorable and profitable to them in the long run
I could see that being true but i still don't think it's a good choice lol. i wish they'd cover all roles now and then release sidegrades for other niches later. thanks for the comment!
hopefully it finishes 2 years later just like honkai impact part 1, it was consistent to its extras and main content and finishes only for 5 years, im expecting that genshin might do the same and just adds another part in the story
@@Not_SheoI mean, if they keep you waiting for more time, you're more likely to be more excited for the character. So they build your enthusiasm for the archetype and then it brings a higher demand for the character. It's kind of genius for mihoyo to do this
Do ya’ll not realize that making a model, rigging, animating, programming, and balancing all takes time when they could have been creating Natlan or something. Mihoyo is also making ZZZ so a lot of their resources are being used there. They din’t just decide to make stuff slower, making characters costs time and money.
imaging using xiangling AND said xiangling alternative. would have to keep up with the hydro aura, but youd be rewarded with busted vape damage
Yeah honestly I could see that being part of the reason we haven't seen a sidegrade for her yet lol
There’s a IGCD with vapes so it might not be a cracked as you might think, don’t get me wrong it’ll be fucking stupid good but *luckily* there is a limit to Xiangling
@@guyguy7923 I'm 99% sure Xiangling doesn't have ICD on her burst, that's why she's so busted lol
tartaglia can finally shine with consistent forward vapes
@@Not_Sheo yeah thats why shes insane, she literally looks at the games rules that almost every other character has to follow (icd) and just says:
"Nah, id win."
I'd personally like to see a dendro summoner character. Like Furina's salon solitaire, but focusing on dendro application instead of hydro damage. Maybe theme it around a kid character who summons Aranara, or something like that.
Edit: I know Yaoyao exists, I just dont like those types of summons lol.
Cute idea! I'll be interested to see what the next Dendro sub dps' niche will be to differentiate themselves from Nahida. the summoner idea is neat bc it aligns with my want to have off-field dendro that persists through new enemy waves.
Yao yao
not another dendro kid :(
Yaoyao
nahida does amazing off field application and big damage with reactions and then you can make yao yao work too if you want an actusl creture
No joke though CYNO doesn't have a good dendro yet it feels so underwhelming when the quicken aura expires
!!! you get it! I just need one four star hoyo please
Hopefully Sethos is Cyno's dedicated support :pray:
Hoyo.... you know what you need to do
Fr
Who's sethos ?
@@ZookieBookieDeelugi someone who'll appear in Cyno's 2nd chapter
Damn
"5 Star Xiangling with no energy requirements" Bro CLEARLY forgot the OP unit that Dehya is
Pyro archon is coming soon.
HOLY
I think a Geo Nilou could be a very interesting character to finally save Crystalize reactions: Have them transform each crystallize shield to a specific buff when taken. Meanwhile, they could have some powerful multipliers for the crystalize shield they are using to make them at least as powerful as normal shielder's shields such as Thoma's or Diona's. Maybe they could even pull a Layla and make crystalize shields apply elements, with an infusion kinda like Lynette's but Geo.
Another one, which I believe would work well as a Sandrone kit, is to have someone kinda like Furina's E mobs, but purely focused on DPS. I imagine some puppetmaster sort of character, maybe an anemo one, that infuses the element on a doll and makes it attack like Lynette's Q. Anemos are usually CCs or Healers, but we don't have an anemo sub-dps of any sorts, whose contribution to the team ain't VV shredding or EM Buffing or CC or healing but off-field damage.
I also think a main burgeon/burning pyro dps could be cool. 4.6 seems to have a new burning set which is about keeping the enemy burning for buffs, which works good for Ganyu BurnMelt teams, but we don't have anyone focused on using Burning/Burgeon as their main source of Damage. Thoma for example works with Burgeon, but he's not exactly a main dps. Maybe they could apply some Nahida-like mark that deal weak AoE Pyro application every few seconds, triggering burning and exploding bloom cores while also not having much Pyro to allow good vape comps. Their burst could have some huge AoE, Quadratic-scaling shenanigans like Ganyu or Ayato's Burst so you could ignite every dendro thing in the area and explode all cores on the field.
Also, We have NA buffers such as Yunjin or Candace, but no CA buffers. We need one of those. Maybe they could have some skill that removes Stamina cost from CAs entirely and gave them attack speed, or even created some sort of gauge, like Eula's Q, that accumulated the more CAs you hitted, so you would beyblade your way into the enemies, allowing for Claymore users to use those silly spins almost no one uses.
These are all cool ideas! RIP Dehya she deserved to be our burgeon or burning support ://// I'm partial to the CA buffer as a Neuv enthusiast but honestly I don't see Hoyo doing it specifically because of him lol unless their kit is genuinely dysfunctional with Neuv's
Aren’t Lynette and Jean sub-DPS?
i think the main issue for CA buffers is that Nueveillete and Hu Tao exist to make them insane.
This is what I was hoping Chiori's kit could be. Like a geo healer Nilou / Chevreuse. Which would equally buff Itto, Noelle and Navia. But they made Albedo 2.0 powercreep instead.
I want to see a character like candace who uses an actual shield and a sword. And like candace I would want their skill to be a counter, but Unlike the other counter users (who all usually end up off field due to their bursts) this should be an on field dps. I'm picturing anamo, or maybe dendro. or mayne they could have a unique charged attack like kazuhas, but instead of jumping you charge forward and shieldbash enemies.
Yeah I'd love a character with genuine parry gameplay. Full-on Sekiro mode.
Spoilers/leaks!
So now that 4.6 beta started, cyno's second story quest got leakes, and it features a new character that uses a bow and looks to be dendro, and looking at this video I thought "omg no way" it could totally be a 4 star cyno support as the one described here
I'd loooove that but hoyo's track record recently makes me pessemistic lol
he is electro
@@ZackaryFrouand a dps on top of that lol
This didn’t age well lol.
@@yesok6592 yeah XD
Hydro claymore is smth I pray for every night. I literally started chanting it when you started talking abt the element + weapon character were missing. HYDRO CLAYMORE HYDRO CLAYMORE HYDRO CLAYMORE
5* Xiangling could be a hybrid of her and Bennett, honestly (minus the healing). Mostly because... yeah, this is totally gonna be the pyro archon
Taking two of the most busted characters in the game and combining would be hilarious.
Or maybe keeping the healing, but not done like Bennett does it. Yes, the Pyro archon would be their first proper healer archon. (Zhongli needs C6, and Furina needs her anti-healer role more.)
I remember before Baizhu’s official release there was a thing floating around that he would have similar off field application of Dendro to that of Yelan
That would have been nice! Probably still would have been too single-target for cyno, but it would be a great character in general
he does when you have cons of him. his c2 makes him a healer nahida
he does, but you requires his c2 con to do so. Personally, i have him in c2 and i'm a Cyno enjoyer, Baizhu's a joy to play with, really worth pull for his c2.
I imagine the skill of the hydro claymore user to infuse him with hydro, and when you spin with your charge attack you create some sort of whirlpool around you that deals extra hydro damage in a bigger area while also pulling enemies closer (and probably giving interruption resistance in the process). As for his burst.... IDK man. Maybe a support burst, dealing a little bit of AOE damage while creating a "pacific sea", an area that heals you and makes you unstoppable (huge interruption resistance), while constantly applying hydro; so, some sort of Bennett
So basically hydro alhaitham but with claymore
@@Hui-kv8xm except for the infusion, I don't think it has anything to do with Alhaitam 😅
@@santiagosousq7035 not the kit but the visual I imagined looked alhaitham -ish I guess I don't know
I want an Anemo shielder that has off-field CC by sucking the enemies towards you with some kind of whirlwind that revolves around you. (It could even have elemental infusion)
Or do the same thing with Geo like how the robot worm from the Chasm does, by creating quicksand or a magnetic field around you that pulls enemies closer.
The shielding role is important because you're literally having enemies swarm you but the field should at least interrupt some enemy attacks.
that would be craaaazy. Hoyo is terrified of power-creeping kazuha and venti's CC ability lol That would be a super valuable character tho
@@Not_Sheo Right it's too good to be true :D
I've been avoiding building Xiangling for 4 years when I first started playing, bcs somehow she is still C0 and I wasn't interested in her kit. Leney almost made me build her because of how restrictive his teams are but thankfully Chevreuse came out and made more teams available for him without Xiangling. Hopefully a 5 star Xiangling will come out soon.
Thank you for the awesome content!
man i don't have chev yet but i went her sooo bad just to replace xiangling on my lyney team. she's not optimal but anything that's more comfy that xl is a win in my book lol
I don't play her because i got her c6 (ruining my 4 stars pulls) and i still get her even tho i have her c6
The character I’m waiting the most is the proper burgeon carry.
I love burgeon, I love fun shenanigans that can be done with burgeon, but every burgeon trigger option is in some ways awkward af - you’re punished going on-field pyro because we do not have fast off-field AoE hydro, Xiangling is too much pyro, Dehya is too little pyro, Xinyan’s pyro app tied to having high DEF stat; Thoma is sorta decent but you’re basically throwing his whole kit out for him to be a somewhat competent burgeon trigger - while still having huge ER requirements.
What we need is a pyro unit with EM-scalings (either for team buff or, considering that burgeon tends to kill your team - defensive utility), with fast-ish off-field pyro ticks on standard iCD.
I want characters that actually inflict status effects! Not just another instance of damage. Like the only ones that can inflict specific status effects that not specific to Elements are Venti and Jean(airlift), Zhong Li(petrification), Mona(trapping light enemies with her Burst ala the Bubble) and stat drops like with Diona, then Lisa and Ei(Atk and Def respectively)
I want characters that can maybe inflict Blind(or at least make the enemy unable to track) or drastically reduce their movement or root them
Or oh I dunno, actual character that deal DoTs??? Like sheesh
A hydro shielder would make Neuvillette so happy he doesnt need to run Geo daddy at c0 anymore, while also providing hydro resonance incase you dont have Furina, or you need furina in your second team for like Hu tao for example.
Another thing i think Hoyo should also do is an Anemo shielder.
I made a story (and kit) for an OC and here's the description for the burst:
"Activating her Elemental Burst summons the Pillar of Verity, an obelosk that periodically releases six bubbles that trap her enemies and applies a debuff similar to Corrosion to them and heals allies below a certain amount of HP within a certain radius. Within the circular field, her Normal, Charged and Plunging Attacks will have a 40% increased Hydro Damage. Using her Skill while the Burst is active adds the latter's benefits to the former, sealing the fates of whoever stands In her way"
Weirdly i'd like a 5 Star Geo Catalyst Healer, that still relies on Geo Reactions.
idk how this could work but i could imagine that: When a character is shielded via Geo Crystallize reaction, damage to that shield then heals the character
Realistically the reason why 5 Star Geo Catalyst was to fulfil that slot in general, as i believe we only have 1 other Geo Catalyst user but they're a 4 star named Ningguang
having a Geo Healer could also be another weird change up from how Geo is usually more defensive based, this could then make weird niche of a Geo Character
I have just remembered as i was doing research on the side that Noelle and Gorou can fill the role of Healer (with Zhongli also doing so at higher Constellation) But i am sticking with this Geo Catalyst Healer.
Either Geo Catalyst Healer or legitimately just a 5 Star Ningguang that's just much more powerful, the burst being similar to Navia maybe.
I was considering talking about a geo team-wide healer to enable furina comps for mono-geo teams! So I completely agree with this idea, the crystalize integration is really cool too!
Btw if you need energy in the overworld for a dps showcase go to the thundering fury domiain and choose the lowest difficulty and whenever you defeat an enermy you get a bunch of white energy particles and even a non geared bennet at lv 90 r1 aquila can defeat most enermys with just his skill and it charges your alts so quick as it took less than a whole run to charge my kujo saras burst with zero er and no er wepon (because she did too much damage to test my raidens burst)
Thanks! I was mainly trying to show how you would typically battery XL in normal settings, but I didn't know about that trick!
I kinda want a character that center itself around self freezing, like when the character freeze itself it didnt get frozen and instead gained armor and damage at the cost of being extra slow
I would love a new off-field pyro applicator, because I don't like Xiangling and I absolutely refuse to build her.
Understandable, despite being busted she's an absolute pain to use
YES!! Happy to know i'm not alone on this
It would be wild to have Kisame in the game.
like from Naruto? XD
Roof? Why do you want a roof character-
@@TheAroSpecWallet he will create a new skill ceiling
I think basically making hydro Noelle would be great, but even more support focused. Make the signature claymore a giant paintbrush. Deals less damage but applies hydro with the big sword burst. Healing and shield similar to Noelle, less damage potential but higher shield and healing.
A painter character would be awesome, and a hydro claymore character would fit that well! Maybe they could be more supportive by "painting" debuffs onto enemies?
@@Hunter-dy2xy I was also thinking painting debuffs would be a perfect fit! Reducing damage resistance or damage delt would be fitting
2:00 Your vfx are sooo good 🥵
We need
1. A physical dps that's actually good or them to stop giving me physical goblets in domains.
2. a 5-star dedicated Geo healer that makes constructs
3. An electro character that's literally just a battery. Once their meter is full they just give it to someone else or the group in general, no need for damage.
4. Dedicated pyro infusion character without needing C6 Bennett
5. A cryo version of Mona that greatly lowers the defense of enemies affected by hydro and/ or cryo
6. A character who's mechanic is that they can self-destruct so that Bennett won't feel so bad, and ti gives Qiqi and Barbara something to do.
we have physical dps that is actually good. what we don't have is upports,sub dps and good reaction . for phys dps to compete with current meta they need to be stronger than neuvilette do you think anyone besides archons and dragons gonna have that power budget
You know what role we're truly missing? A pyro on fielder 🙄
ikr, they should also be a pyro polearm since we're missing those too :)))
dendro kuki made by vfx master doesnt exist, it cant hurt u
A Geo character that gives a buff to the player or a debuff on the enemies that hit the crustalize shield based on the character's Em?
Pyro increases interruption dealt on enemies.
Hydro increases shield's health or heals player with every hit.
Electro recharges a set energy every time the shield gets hit
Cryo slows enemies that attack the shield and prevents frozening
Dendro approximates 2 + 2
When he started talking about the hydro claymore I was like "Bro thats just Baizhu?" and then I was like wait hold on let this man cool.
the fact that klee could be the best pyro applicator in the game if her ult was off field. Such a missed opportunity to make her meta
I’m so glad you mentioned the lack of hydro shielders, it had been something I thought about for so long. I desperately want a hydro shielder
0:35 bro really just listed all my favs. Idk it just made me happy :)
taste!
I want more summoners, or heck an actual Dendro support that create Dendro constructs in which you can create Bloom cores really easily
Or heck how cme we dont have Cryo character that can slide around
I was thinking of a little mage boy with a feisty attitude and an avid collector of scarabs as a dedicated off-field elemental mastery scaling 4-star dendro catalyst-user support. This character would have an E skill where he releases 2 initial scarabs which increases every X seconds when a dendro related reaction occurs (capped at 5 scarabs). These scarabs will be floating around the active character and will attack whoever is the active character attacking. For each enemy hit by a scarab will increase the EM of the active character by an X% amount of this character's EM. His Q is a damage buff called "Sun God's Blessing" which provides interruption resistance to the active character within an X amount of time.
As for constellations, his C1 would increase the initial scarabs released by 1. C2 will provide an additional X% EM boost. C4 will provide lvl 2 interruption resist (C1Neuv-kind of resist). C6 will increase the max scarabs to 6 and more EM boost.
Honestly, I'd love to see more bow users who play the role of main-DPS through charged attacks. Especially Geo one, maybe somehow utilizing Crystallization shields. Actually, I just want more Geo characters with unique mechanics
I enjoy writing down character kits, currently I've done a 4* anemo sub DPS for wanderer, a 4 star dendro enabler for burgeon, 4* electro sub DPS to go alongside cyno, 5* geo off field DPS to go alongside itto, 5* dendro DPS that revolves around burning plus a 4* hydro off field DPS to vape said burning
Character that buffs shatter damge and puts a physical resistance reduction on enemies
Very nice video!
I had a thought recently that we don't have an anemo shielder. Someone who can cc, use vv and shield, but not heal, might be interesting.
that would actually be so cool, imagine a anemo shielder who could infuse their shield with elements to make them more resistant against that specific element :0
That's for sure another one I'd love to see!
@@endercat_2710 That would be super neat!
We don’t have an Electro shielder either. Like Hydro MC, Beidou needs cons for the shield.
I've always been theorycrafting a physical electro support. like the physical damage niche is really left behind due to hoyo being locked in the idea that physical carries and supports should be cryo but that comes in fault of xinyan trying to be pyro and physical in some way but thats another topic. the thing is that physical can be any element and the other strong related element to it is electro so if 1 cryo physical support can't do enough for the damage type (aka mika) then an electro physical support can basically cover every aspect that mika doesn't such as shielding, interruption resistance and elemental appli uptime (for instance I think the best this hypothetical character can do is extent the duration of superconduct debuff so instead of 12 seconds now can last for around 16-18 seconds giving a better window to non cryo carries like razor and also helping non cryo-electro carries to not struggle keeping the debuff for the whole rotation)
fr and i think it could be a character like chevreuse where they increase damage delt by physical, that way even characters like freminet physical rosaria or razor could see the spotlight again. just something that makes it actually comparable to regular reaction teams
I do think it would be interesting to continue the trend of elemental supports like Gorou for Geo, Faruzan for Anemo, Shenhe for Cryo, etc. The main gaps are hydro, pyro, and dendro, but I'm most interested what a Dendro Gorou/Faruzan could do. I think Alhaitham could take really good advantage of that kind of a character, and it would give him more options outside of quickbloom. It would be best if they buff off field characters too, so Nahida could also benefit from their buffs. The only problem is that they would probably be hard to design, since Nahida already kinda fills the role of EM buffer (for on field), battery, and deepwood holder. They could probably give a buff to spread damage similar to what Baizhu gives with his A4, but much bigger and party wide, at the cost of having no defensive utility. Then you'd probably be pigeon-holed into Kuki as the last slot to consolidate elector app and defensive utility, at the cost of a higher damage character like Fischl or Yae. If they're a 4 star, they'll probably have the same crit damage C6 that the 4 star buffers have, which would definitely be nice. Although considering how painful wishing for C6 Gorou was, I'd probably prefer them to just be a 5 star with a complete kit at C0, even if that's unlikely.
I've also really wanted a Dendro character with a kit that involves burning, especially one that could work with Lyney. Dendro could easily fit in Lyney teams without disrupting the pyro aura, but there currently aren't any dendro characters that could actually work with him currently. Maybe one that shreds pyro resistance when you proc burning, since you probably wouldn't want to have to also play an anemo character in the team. That might be a bit too similar to Chevreuse, though, and I'm not sure what they could do to fit in a Lyney team beyond that. I have a feeling that if they did design a dendro character with burning in mind, they'd probably buff the reaction damage itself, or work better with burnmelt/burnvape. The one thing I can definitely see them doing is having a character make your on fielder immune to burning damage, since the self damage in a team like that would be unsustainable, especially for a character that's already squishy like Lyney.
I personally would love to have a character that can limit the area of battling, its because i love ga ming but his ult is so frustrating some time because his pet lion just get so far away that it actually waste his ult, i know i can just lure them to a corner but its problematic in the abyss and other time base challenges. all this rambling and i didn't mention his kit and element, his element is hydro because we have to many pyro, anemo and electro characters and hydro is useful for any elemental reaction based team he will be a bow user just cuz a bow could be cool if his skill/ultimate will be based on him marking the places and then uses the skill to activate the marking to form some kind of cage and he will scale on defense in like the more defense you have the more durable the cage is his ultimate could be a bomb kind of like he uses his ult and any monster inside the perimeter of the cage will get blowed up, the damage of it will be bade on attack but it will not be to destructive as it is op but it will mark them and affect their defense and speed. all this and i feel like he will be from sumeru or fontain
I have a mostly fun idea that character that i made is a one shot support so i made them anemo 5 star bow their E does a buff like a nilou aura that occasionally swirls and every time it swirls it it swirls faster and decreases the enemy defense their burst summuns a clock with makes the next hit of your active character (doesn't count off field damage) be double the damage if you swirl it with pyro or cryo and if you swirl it with electro or hydro the next hit of your active character will heal all of your team based on the support's HP/EM/ATK or any other scaling
I made some designing and the character is a medium male from fountaine and his skills and bursts are mostly made of clocks and screws his appearance is kinda like sethos with freminet but more blueish and yellow
been wanting hydro claymore for ages uuugh. i had an idea of a claymore surfing hydro vision user cuz is it not just bad ass to use your power of hydro and your big ass sword and surf with it. and that he would have an atk scaling and a good burst so I could use the fish claymore on him well for the shits and giggles lol
i was also about to go "hey you forgot about hydro polearm, we dont have that yet.." then i remembered Candace... my queen.. I'm sorry I forgotten about you. I remember when there were rumors about Ayato being hydro and based on npcs that he was adept at sword and polearms and people were praying for polearm but nope sword sadge
I'd personally would like to see a catalyst who has the ability to conjure weapons like her na shooting swords arrows spears and such like gilgamesh. and her skill she could be able to wield a weapon like a lance or smth that isnt in the game and the charged attack would be the character riding a claymore lol imagine how fun that would be. THe element of hydro would be most fitting for the kit since its the most flexible element.
I’m a month late because I just found this video but a character I want to see is a anemo shielder who’s shield scales of EM and the shield’s strength is determined by how many elements the shield absorbs. As for a weapon I see a bow being their weapon
My take to add with your cyno support:
On top of the interruption resitance and wide dendro app, i feel like cyno could really use a buffer for his most reliable dmg source, so after casting their burst and getting the Dendro Xingqiu swords they would give to the active character increased dmg on their skill for as long as the burst of the character stays active, and each time the skill is used, the Dendro Xingqiu Swords get refreshed, making it even tougher to actually take cyno down.
(i was actually talking about this with a friend a few days ago, who wouldve thought lol, i hope you find the idea entertaining, i love debating the creation of new characters for this game as a hobby)
I NEED a good off-field pyro for Childe 😭 and Xiangling is just not cutting it. Childe was my first DPS and I used him in FREEZE because I literally just didn't have anything else for him to do. Now I use him in taser, which is still so cope it hurts
I would like to see a melee character that throws their weapon. Imagine if we got a pole arm user that instead of a normal charged attack they enter an aim mode to throw the weapon. Like they can do normal attacks then throw the spear to do some range combos. Skill and burst could buff this and it would allow for a bit of aoe and ranged single target.
I really like the idea of a crimson witch or a lion adepti
Man i just want a hydro claymore person
I've been wanting a 5* Bennett for a while now, and I think Fontaine is the perfect time to reveal it. A Pyro Sword character who's elemental skill involves them placing stage objects (lights, props, etc.) that deal Pyro DMG around them, and taunt enemies to them like how Lyney's prop does. Their burst would be exactly like Bennett's, buffing attack based on base attack, but it would stay with the character like how Gorou's burst does. I think the circle being designed like a spotlight would be cool!
The new 4 star coming, Sethos might be suitable for Cyno. Since Sethos is gonna be introduced in Cyno’s story quest. Plus he is also a gonna be a Bow character.
I'd like to see a "shield eater". So basically, allowing for double shield in team composition. The more shield you have, the more damage they do. Snapshotting. So basically, you'd use this character, probably 5*, with zhongli, use both shields and then burst, basically removing your shield but giving you resistance to interruption, and the more shield it eats, the more damage your next NA attacks do.
Great video! Was surprised looking at your sub count, the video felt very high quality.
Anyways I'd really like to see new playstyles that use different reactions. Something like a dedicated electrocharged DPS, a Shatter DPS or maybe more characters like Nilou that basically make a new reaction entirely :D
a hydro support unit for Wanderer that is mainly a crowd controller, it both increases his flight and gathers the enemies so his attacks will be more precise while running away from enemy attack also it will provide more elemental reactions
Pyro healer. No, I don't wanna use Bennett as my only healer in the team. No, I don't want that stupid 70% hp cap that not even cons can fix. Pls give me a dedicated pyro healer
something I think a lot of characters would love is charged attack support, kinda crazy how we don't have a dedicated one already, Itto, Nuevillette, Ganyu and a lot of other CA characters might be able to enjoy the buffs from this character (This is severe and necessary itto main coping)
I just really want a hydro shielder- like Layla is to cryo for example. One day🙏🏻 haven’t given up hope 🙏🏻
I think what I want most now is characters that are deliberately designed to be good without making use of their element's most universal mechanic. It feels like every Pyro DPS uses vape, every Cryo team uses freeze, every Electro or Dendro character uses Quicken/Hyperbloom, Hydro is about fast elemental application and Anemo is about applying the VV shred. Geo is the only one that feels like it's innovating with Navia's crystallise and Chiori's construct mechanics, but even then Chiori is the 4th Geo character to deal periodic damage from off-field.
im personally interested an anemo shielder- like, when the shield is active, any element that hits it gets swirled for damage. would be great for spiral abyss when you're surrounded by multitype enemies to get some reactions going
We need a dedicated debuffer!! All forms of offensive support are buffs, even Mona’s burst counts as a buff 😭😭
I want a character that just straight up reduces enemy DEF or give them a vulnerability debuff so that they take more damage. We could also have them rival Bennett because their debuff is dependent on enemies, sure, but you are not locked in a small circle for half your damn duration 😭😭
(yeah I said it I don’t like using Bennett as much as I don’t like using Xiangling 🙄)
Zhongli shield's universal resistance shred is probably the closest we have gotten lol, you're right it's very underutilized!
The reason that mihoyo is hesitant to add debuffers is probably a result of HoS's absolute decimation of hi3 Meta XP I think if they did make a debuffer, they would either be super niche (ie for phys or geo teams) or be so broken that mihoyo would struggle to make content that wasn't absolutely trivialized by that unit
Lisa shreds defense
@@birdiebancha910 I don't know anything about honkai so I'll believe you lol most of our dedicated buffers are still niche too, NA, ATK, DEF, etc. so i don't think debuffers would be any different, to your point.
@@joranvanolphen9892 C2, right? DEF shred is rare in general, annoying that Cons for her are so rare
A support that offers pure interruption resistance and some form of off field aoe elemental application would be game changing. Imagine if it was a 5* replacement for Xiangling. Imo I would love to see a support that offers massive defense shred for showcases. Nice video!
Would love a pure support Geo character who focuses on party healing/buffing and enemy debuffing, while having a kit based around bonus effects they get by triggering as many Crystallizes as possible. Maybe a catalyst just to be able to slap Thrilling Tales on em.
In short, it feels like most geo characters are intended to be used with 1 or more other Geos.
It'd be nice to have one that's just a reliable support to have on any team, without being particularly strong themself.
yep i also always have wanted a hydro shielder and another off field puro dps. but one support i want that was not mentioned is an anemo shielder, i do not have c6 faruzan so having a shielder that makes a good amout of front loaded anemo particles would help a bunch.
I may be weird but what stood out to me was I have never used Bennett with Xingling. Never even occurred to me.
I personally am still looking forward for a good 5* burgeon dps, i thought Dehya was gonna fill that role but- oh boy her kit is just...😭
I think they should make one support for each element and one for most of the reactions, like Gorou for Geo and Chevreuse for Overload.
Quick Overview:
-A pyro dedicated support could provide a massive attack buff, like bennet, but would remove the buff if you tried to do a reaction. Scale off attack.
-A hydro dedicated support could gain stacks whenever healing occurs, like Furina, and provide a HP buff depending on how much healing. Scale off HP.
-A cryo dedicated support could give Crit Damage buffs whenever THEY themselves crit, sicne Cryo's stat seems to be crit. Scale off crit rate.
TL;DR - There's a lot of different ideas centered around the themes of the elements that could be brought out by a character supporting that element, like Hydro's healing and HP scaling, Pyro's attack, Geo's original intended use of an all purpose support(Albedo EM buff), Dendro's reactions, Anemo resistance shred, Cryo's crit(blizzard strayer and cryo resonance), and Electro's energy recharge.
There's also another great idea that takes no effort from hoyo that can help existing characters gain new utility. For example, xinqiu is great in a cyno team, but he would be even better if he could provide EM buffs. THe instructor artifact set gives em at 2pc, and 120 em to all party members after doing a reaction and 4pc, but it is unusable since it can't be obtained in 5 star versions. There are a lot of artifact sets that would be great. In a team like Xio-Faruzan-Xianyun, you need a lot of energy, so you could turn xianyun or faruzan into a battery with 4pc Exile, which gives Energy Recharge, and provides a lot of energy to the rest of the party.
I think it would be great if you could go over ideas for how hoyo could implement a way to use set bonuses from 4 star artifacts without sacrificing the stats.
the pyro support would be crazy for Lyney, which makes me want it 100% lol
Rip sethos being a dps instead of a support for cyno
The idea of a support for Cyno is quite intruiging for me. I think it'd be cool with a character that deals an AoE burst of dendro (similar to Kiraras burst but smaller AoE with lower scaling) when you activate a skill. This would not only work well for Cyno but lots of other units like Yae, Nahida, Fischl, Nilou and even electro traveler while still staying niche enough to be busted without breaking the meta
I think two characters we need is a Geo reaction giver that applies to def/hp scaling (Navia dose this but just to herself) like a wide scale one that can give it to the other damage dealers.
And more/actually strong buffer to physical damage. Mika is fun but dosn’t do enough.
for the hydro claymore, a shield is really cool, but I also want another 4* off fielder for hydro
I want benny like character with white and grey clothes and white hair with a kit thay revolves around charged attacks and a animation where he spins around swinging his sqord creatings a spiral of fire that spreads put around him that does alot of damage
Hmmm.... Dendro Kuki would fit nicely.
- Tighnari's skill and Traveler's burst sort of covers this: It's an AOE on the ground but it doesn't move around with you like Kuki's would...
- Nahida's skill sticks around and moves with the target - but not with the player.
- Baizhu's burst t's a shield that moves around with the player, but I guess it doesn't give the persistent dendro application either.
I want a Nilou for Crystallise. Maybe changes the properties of the crystallise drop depending on which geo+element combo you use.
I also imagine a 5 start XL or Benny would be a sidegrade like how Yelan and Yae are to XQ and Fish.
We need two 5 star characters to powercreep Bennett and Xiangling, especially since they're both 4 stars and have been dominant for the past 4 years.
Imagine a busted elemental skill reliant Xiangling with Golden Troupe.
Also an ATK support that boost attack with their skill while giving heavy interruption resist. This would remove Bennett circle impact while allowing your on field damage dealer to do damage without having to worry about incoming damage. This would be the perfect support for my Ayato, Childe and Wanderer. The burst can maybe do a team wide ATK boost.
One version of a "cope" Cyno support is Collei c4. Because as you mentioned, Collei at c4 makes her A4 passive give a dendro ring around her. The thing is, its very, very small in aoe.
I’d love the first one for any electric character tbh, off field persistent dendro is a godsend for say a Keqing build, I love kirara but she’s not the best for it. I’m still waiting for even a single adult female dendro, I don’t want to spend money or wishes on a child or man personally just to fill an obligatory role when I don’t even want the character themself outside of that. Also hydro claymore cmon a single variant undone, ONE variant, we’re so close to completion
I think a hydro claymore shielder would be made really cool if for their burst, stacked shields are sacrificed to do extra damge. Given the weapon and the sacrifice thing, if this is gonna happen it would be in Natlan.
sounds cool!
For your first character: Dendro off-field AOE is Yaoyao. Add Xinqiu for the anti-interruption you need.
Joke is when two weeks after this video we got a mini cyno 4* ( dunno yet if he's for cyno but he is a part of his story quest, and the knave, a pyro * ( also don't know exactly how she's played )
dendro traveler is a great pairing for cyno especially since you don’t need to wish to unlock their cons
Honestly would love to see a hydro claymore user(greatswords are my favorite weapon type in any game) who is sort of like a Paladin
I want a true beserker type character. One who plays with their HP as a resource, but isn't just some HP sponge like Neuv/Hu Tao.
Like, this character could have very low base HP and every hit they take or deal increases their attack speed. So starting out slow at least 50% normal speed, but ramps quickly to 200% speed.
Can simply address the squishiness with a damage reduction passive the lower their HP gets while negating or, and this is what I really want to see happen, force their burst to proc if they take a hit that would kill them.
Just negate it and cast burst regardless of energy levels.
A character like this would sadly have to be Pyro, but can diversify by making them a physical dps. Yes, phys kinda sucks but all you need is a def shred in the kit and have them dual scale by converting pyro/physical bonuses into each other. This way they can still benefit from Kazuha buffs.
A weak xiangling with like 50 er cost burst would be nice, or a skill that works like a weaker burst of xiangling. We just want the pyro application without the high ER cost. Personally I feel a need a true furina alt now. Yelan doesn't work for me. I want something that doesn't rely on normal attacks. A hydro shielder claymore user can fufil this roll. If it has a burst that works like baizhu. I need just off field hydro application that self applies. A skill that maybe is good to crackdown on shields like you said.
What I want is a hydro on field claymore unit that more or less would just be a hydro Keqing. Heavy application of hydro and good meaty damage with a claymore. Also, some kinda real off field cryp application that isn't burst reliant.
i know its not the main role of anemo but id like to see an anemo sheilder, i think it would be really fun to experiment with
What new characters would I want? 1. Off field dendro applicator with great AOE effect. Like second Nahida but lower dmg and bigger aoe effect and smart one like Furina's minions. 2. Overload Nilou 3. Geo crystalize Nilou 4. Physical catalist xD, not but seriously somebody that can make attack 2x faster and buffs physiacl dmg like super strongly. My idea: anemo sword character 5*, very fast normal attacks, good multilpier, E makes mini black hole very fast effect with grouping ability to instantly pull toward all enemies in, duration tap 1s, hold 2x this skill does not make any dmg, but marks all enemies with something like Nahida's E but for physical dmg only. Q is superstance that counts as a buff effect and makes movement speed and normal attack and charged attack 2x faster and gives huge resistance to interruption(exept catalists - it doesn't work with special effects of charged attacks, to not make Neuvillette more broken), while stance is active when hitting normal/charged all party is healed. What is more a second weapon infusion is granted with anemo dmg. It is just to trigger swirls and does almost no dmg triggers once per 2s and like 0,25U anemo application. Second infusion doesn't count and can't be infused with anything, so if a physical dmg is infused only it will change to different element infusion and anemo is like a second aura on top of it. This applies to all characters and can be switched for duration of superstance. As for the anemo sword character while superstace is active it gives all mentioned effects + super boost for physical dmg and significantly increases normal attack area effect. How to quickly summarize this kit, like physical Jean on steroids but better xD with 2 roles physical hypercarry+grouping and support+grouping. 5. Wanna see a Claymore character with a huge shield that can use claymore with 1 hand, somebody like Bennet 5* with better buffing, Varka maybe :P 6. Anemo character that whole kit is based on anemo infusion stances. 7. a character that can deal with all these i-framed stances all anniying bosses use on Spiral Abyss :P
This is more me being curious about what it'd look like, but what about a healer geo character? Like, their kit focuses on healing? Maybe if you have a shield up, each hit the shield takes heals the active character a bit.
I'm thinking emily who is a perfumer is possible to use dendro MISTS which will cause an area to go off with dendro actions, cyno fighting in this zone definitely helps. As for hydro claymore I think that varka may well be that is rumoured to be in natlan.
I want a Immunity Negation Character, converting it to a certain amount of res, decreasing the res proportional to idk, defense (doesn't matter)
I also want a Cooldown Reduction Character- that reduces the cooldown of bursts when it uses bursts and skills when it uses skill, and after a certain amount of time, can automatically cooldown's stuff upon swiching out.
I also want a Electro-charged Chevuse & Shattered Chevruse, burning Chevruse, and Burgeon Chevruse. (Ik I spelt her name wrong)
I would LOVE an electro shielder so i could use it to both apply superconduct and protect my Eula. Currently i use zhongli rosaria and fishcl, would be great if i could with only one character both protect and apply electro, so i could ease 1 spot on this team and slot in bennet or something like that. And yeah i know layla/dori exists, but i really like to use Rosaria with Eula, such a good sub-dps and battery for her.
okay but thoma is so sad bc he’s just.. literally a pyro xingqiu. with a shield. you’d think that’d be cracked!! abut no!! how did they screw that up?!
totally agree, I curse his ICD every day....
at least hes cracked in burngeon now
I would like to see marks be used a bit more, like have Hu Tao mark, Childe mark, and nahida mark. I would like to see a character whose damage is mainly based on these marks and can trigger other characters marks. I would also like them to have a passive to allow multiple marks on enemies. It would be so much like Kafka which I like.
I agree a less energy hungry Xiangling would be nice. I think she needs that limiting factor to not be busted. Even with the Catch or Fav Lance and a 4-piece Emblem set, I'm still doing the Bennett particle generation thing. I don't have a better answer either.
What I am honestly waiting for is a geo healer and another hydro 4 star option that works for hyperbloom. They could require constellations to work just like C2 Xinqiu, but at least they should not be niche so that they work in only 1 team comp, 1 character and no other. Limited 5 stars take 180 pulls to get and if you lose your 50/50, your team will be inefficient or just downright unusable.
geo team-wide healer really needs to come soon. as for your last point, that's the name of the game with gacha unfortunately ://
xianglings only downside is energy so removing that and adding five star scaling can't end well like ever without them being very busted or just the same as xiangling
Cyno support: is not a support, but a rival
me: 😥😥😥