Ultimate Buying Guide 1 of 3 - Minimalist gear for slacklining and highlining
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- Опубліковано 12 чер 2018
- The most expensive thing you will do slacklining/highlining is buy gear twice. In a perfect world you would buy gear that you can use for both slacklining and highlining. I present an option for an entire setup that would cost less than $1000 and you can do everything with and be able to add to it, rather than outgrow it.
This series is aimed for those who want to slackline AND highline and currently have no gear. My gear wall is not my success, it is my failure. No one needs that much sh*t! No one sponsors me and I don't sell gear, so I am as gear neutral as one can be (other than I have my personal favorites).
This video is the 1st of the 3 in this series. We talk about what gear you need and don't need. The 2nd video is in the park setting this rig up as a slackline and the 3rd video is showing a highline example with this same gear.
Remember, the cheapest way to slackline is to make friends in “high” places, people that already have the gear and know how to use it. Make a serious effort to find slackers or go to a slackline festival before purchasing anything.
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I think we must never forget the effort you put in your videos and in sharing all your knowledge, Ryan. Thanks, man!
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0:00 Tips and stuff
6:44 Webbing
14:47 Anchors
17:30 Leashes
20:56 Webbing-anchor connection (sown loops, frost knot...)
24:07 Weblocks
28:28 LineGrip
31:42 Hangover (homemade version at 32:56)
34:55 Connectors (shackles, quicklinks, bolts...)
39:03 Tagline
40:40 Harness
Updated tips. Buy snatch linegrip and only buy 50 meter sections. See recent videos.
@@HowNOT2 which video explains the 50m section choice? currently looking to buy some webbing, want to make the right length choice.
@@naturarum inov split videos. We have 3 now and all within last 2 months
Cool cool cool
Hero to us all...
Thank you for all the work you put into this video and all you channel! I am a beginner slackliner and I really love this way of life so your advices are more than usefull to keep me from doing nonsense haha.
It is quite difficult to get all the slack-knowledge from scratch and all your videos are very clear and helpfull :)
So a big THANK YOU
Price per unit point just opened up a world of possiblity... Thank you Ryan. I start work as a data analyst in July and will finally be able to help the Pateron, but keep up the great work. Love theses vids🤙
Thank you so much for making this! The technical info is so helpful as a beginner -- makes the sport more accessible and safer.
Bro, you put so much time and effort you are the best
Dude I love your passion and channel. I am going to urban highline festival for my first highline. And your show really made that happed. Big it up dude 🤙🏽
That's awesome. Glad the stoke gets spread around like it does. There are a lot of people there, so cherish each line you get a chance to get on, practice as much as possible in the park the things that can be practiced (sit starting, climbing leash, scooting on your ass comfortably, oh yea... slacklining too haha). I found that I was exposed to new ideas, got inspired by other people's stoke and got to meet some pretty rad people that I have ran into since then. It's good all around.
Great video, trying to get into longlining and these videos are fantastic for learning.
Also thank god there's some Americans out there using meters.
thank you for all you do Ryan!
Thanks for the Video Ryan, you saved me a ton of money! 🙏❤️
This series is great!
so much good info in your video! I'm grateful for all that you share :)) thanks
Tying knots to save money FTW ! Im constantly doing knot experiments.
Giving recommendations for what to buy is something i have trouble with. I also agree that buy less and go with people to learn initially is ideal.
But thanks for making this, I'll be pointing many people toward this video.
If you don't know knots... tie lots ;). Break tests coming soon!
Thanks for the feature yo!! Bigger and better comparisons coming soon
Nice to see my home made line-grip in your video. However you owe me a large beer for not giving me any credit for it :). I'll collect next time you travel to France or next time I visit your area. Ok ? Thanks for great videos.
Love these videos I’m learning so much.👍
Awesome video for anyone interested in starting somewhere before highlining
Thanks for adding that bit about not telling WHAT to buy, but HOW to choose to buy! I don’t slack line, but I enjoy the thought process...
I like to teach how to think, not what to think... and we are dipping into climbing now if you are into that.
Amsteel is a game changer. Spent an evening with a few friends putting together whoopee slings and soft shackles. So glad we did. Amazing tech. Thanks for the beta, Ryan. Working with 70 meters of Aero 2 webbing with sewn loops on both ends from balance community. It's great. The fact that it has two different colours is a big win. Haven't yet needed 100M, but it's easy to see how that might have been better in hindsight. Tree pro from balance community is not worth it, go with carpet. Hangovers are worth it. But take a LONG time to ship from Europe, to Canada anyway .
If you have sewn loops you can easily add length to it. I'm going to be rigging a big big line soon and I can use all the webbing I already own rather than spending thousands on a new big big piece. If you make your soft shackles, they are pretty cheap, aren't they? And stronger than the webbing, the rope and hell... the bolts we connect to. We definitely need another hangover option because they take so long to get.
Ryan, your gear wall is really beautiful 🤩!
Great video Ryan, Thanks man!
Both the blue and the red AmSteel are UV rated in order to increase the lasting power of the Dyneema/Spectra but it would be best when making these Connectors, to scrunch up some simple nylon webbing over the top of it which can be moved around in order to prevent UV degradation while still allowing us to Examine that spectra core. Keeping Dyneema/Spectra out of the sun is vital for maintaining its integrity.
Love the videos! Thanks for all the info
Thank you Ryan for all the videos you make for us.
I am 72 years old and live in Toronto Canada.
Recently I watch many climbing related videos (including yours) and slowly but wisely, I "collect" the necessary knowledge to combine with my knowledge (about the hardware) as a retired industrial maintenance electrician to perform some (easy) climbing activities as I am fit and strong due to long time exercising.
I would like to ask your opinion on why you do not mentioned the Bowline knot or the butterfly knot as often as I noticed on other climbing related videos. On the other hand, many times you (and others) use the "figure eight" knot.
I like to use the above knots but I am worried if they are not suitable for climbing or they are not really safe and climbers avoid them.
I will appreciate it if you or other climbers comment on my question and improve my knowledge about climbing.
Keep up what you are doing because you help us a lot with your recommendations and experience.
stelioscdn
Toronto
Ryan has a video interviewing Dough Robinson, Doug's an older timer who's been climbing since the 60s, but he mentioned an incident where a climber had his bowline come undone while working on the crux, he couldn't let go to re tie, he ended up hold on for an hour while someone to aided up to him and re-tied the knot.
I think the bowline can loosen on it's own when cyclically loaded, idk if they had a stopper knot, but I think that's generally the reason the figure 8 is preferred.
Great video man
very very very helpful, thanks!!
Awesome! Great stuff
super rad, thanks for the info yo!
Couple of questions, how do you feel about BC Feather Pro as a webbing since I can't seem to find the SkyPilot webbing anymore?
Also, is there anything you feel is a little out dated or there is new information available?
Thanks again for providing all this material to everyone, I just started going to local slackline meetups and slowly making friends and putting in favors to tag along on some of their highline adventures. Cheers!
Really good content. Thanks.
Love this video thank you man
Very helpful!
Good stuff 👌
Thank you for this super informative Video!! Greetings from Germany :)
Jonah Ho glad you liked it. Im almost done with the examples i filmed for slacking and highlining with the gear i talked about here. Those are a bit more helpful than this video but this gives a good foundation of the "why" behind the gear.
Great great video :) I am from Europe - Romania and I want to go from slackline in the parc on 5 cm fat lines to long lines and eventually to highlines - there are no guys that do this @ me so I am preparing now to buy some stuff. Thanks a lot.
Awesome. Have you check the fb groups near you? facebook.com/groups/309233259173908/ or facebook.com/groups/slackline.romania/ or facebook.com/SlacklineRomania?fref=ts Be sure to watch our newest inov split videos. Only buy webbing in 50m sections and they HAVE TO have simple sewn loops on the end. And the snatch is a cheaper grip. The only updated things since making this video.
Where was that info 5 years ago lol. Good stuff thanks for the info!
I would have a picture of Yosemite behind me in my studio rather than all that gear if someone made this video 5 years ago hahahahaha.
i was just thinking would it be possible to tie your knots around (lets say a steel tube) that way its not being bent so hard in order to keep the full strength of the line being used?
MAN! webbing charts 4 years ago woulda saved some serious internet time! incredible video! we used to hike in shit loads of steel lockers and "potter" sized shackles here in the northwest but thanks to videos like this you've stream lined the whole process thanks ryan!!
Dude! Can you believe all the shit I have on that gear wall behind me??? If I only knew back then!!!! I loved Dean Potter but what he used wasn't helpful hahahaha
hey some of us just learn from trial and error the hard way i guess!!! but fuck it, when you got the vision you'll use whatever haha. Yeah no shit what a human. When's solo'n on 1 inch amsteel comin back in style?! lol
As soon as someone makes a leash made out of bungee cords! hahahaha
did you just create a hybrid sport???! i think so!
I spent my afternoon thinking about the possibilities... but highliners would ruin the idea trying to install backups for redundancy which would take away from the photo, which is the only reason I do this! ;)
@HowNOTtoHIGHLINE I got on my first highline yesterday! I struggled alot (and have the thigh and harness bruises to prove it), but I think I'm hooked and I don't think I committed any faux pas thanks to your latest series! Thanks for all the great content! ANCHOR MATERIAL QUESTION: The friend who took me bought gear back in the early 2010s and has been transitioning to newer rigging methods. I was curious about anchor materials. He was using 13mm static sliding Ws and double wrapped 11/16" tubular backups (water knot) on each leg for the extension potential. I like the simplicity of the BFK and want to help contribute with modernizing his gear. I know thinner materials are easier to cut and make the bend radius smaller on a BFK, but some of the newer products have impressive strength to size ratios. (18kN for 5.5mm) Assuming proper padding and maybe BC line sleeves, it seems the cut potential is mitigated. I know in this video you say 8mm, but it doesn't need to be quite the super strong dyneema core canyoneering rope. I want to make sure the anchors are bomber obviously, so I'm curious of the right radius/strength balance. Any thoughts? What's super good enough?
Example: 5.5mm aramid cord at 18kN vs 8.0mm polyester sheath and nylon core basic canyon rope at 19kN? Obviously, the 8.0mm technora sheath and spectra core at 24 kN is always a fallback. hehehhe
a 4 point bfk with normal used 8mm static is 60kn. Why make it stronger?
@@HowNOT2 I guess I was contemplating going the other direction! If I bought 5.5mm tech cord, then I could have some cross activity uses for the leftovers. And bend radius could be better over 8mm quicklinks and chain anchors? I know the specs are there, it just seems so small.
Very informative video
I have a gibbon line like 18 inches off the ground in my front lawn. It’s been outside for ten years. It’s pretty fun but do I suck?
So to summarize, if you had nothing to start with (and no friends to go with!), you would need:
Webbing (about 100m)
Rope (or spansets) for anchors
Some quicklinks for the anchors
tree pro of some kind
1 weblock
1 soft release
1-2 bow shackles
3+ soft shackles
A leash = rope, webbing, rings, etc
Something to tension with: hangover, line grip or prussik etc.
Tag line
A few misc carabiners, etc
Did I miss anything?
Thanks for the vid
You nailed it. I suppose that would have helped if I put that in the description ;). Basically some webbing and a snack! haha. If you are that narrow target audience this video is for (wants gear for both, has no gear, limited on cash, and has no slacker friends) and you are about to buy gear, then PM and I can give you a sneak peak of the other two episodes so you don't have to wait several weeks for them to come out. ;) (Note: I put the soft release on the static side of the highline example so that means I needed two bow shackles, not just one, because the weblock still had to go on tension side)
Waiting for part 2 haha! Trying to understand how it all works together!
Ares Hermes pm on fb... ill give you a sneak peak
Thanks a lot! Ill get right to that!!
When I was big walling in Yosemite, I wore a Chouinard bod harness which did not have a belay loop. Instead we used large auto lock carabiners, so as to alleviate oneself simply unlock and drop the leg loops, still wearing the swami, tethered to the wall and go about your business. Now, I wear a Metolius all around, in order to take a shit or piss, I have to take the entire harness off. Whats the safest trick? a video would be f@#$ing awesome. Thank you for all your educational videos!!!!
Awesome video! Lot's of great information here.
One thing I don't quite get though: Is a weblock and a line grip or prusik really enough for long slacklines in the park?
I see that it could be an option for highlines where too much sag probably isn't that much of a problem.
It is more work to tension it... but I'll give you a sneak peak since it doesn't come out for 2 weeks :) ua-cam.com/video/-h5oQHX6Lh4/v-deo.html
HowNOTtoHIGHLINE Thanks, really appreciate it!
thanks a lot ma man !!!
niiiiice I love these long videos!
VoidMoth that is completely opposite of what i thought when i started but the engagement is so much higher on longer videos. Glad you like them!
I mean you really cant do this in a 7-8min video, there are so many variables and so many effects and causes behind those, as usually with anything related to highline/longline.
And any video that is more than, say 30 minutes has that kind of podcast-ish feel to it, and that results in high engagement. thats just me, but Id say Im not the only one.
True. If I'm just showing how to tie a BFK and a sliding x then it is under 10 minutes. I find the longer ones allow for more of a story line and layers of depth and that might be the difference. That is how I'm approaching the break tests. It's not a spoon fed delivery of information but I try to bring the audience on the journey I'm currently on to explore whatever I'm breaking. I find many slack science experiments focus on the math and forget the audience. I'll probably have a chart or graph here and there, but I'm going to bring people along on how I achieved the numbers and have an "open" discussion without hard conclusions of what they mean. Glad you said you like the longer ones, now I'm not so afraid to make them haha.
Story line, layers and depth huh? You have no idea how much youve got that right my man: this 42-48min long video is exactly the time frame of the more thought-provoking series' episode length, like dr house, game of thrones, black mirror, etc. so people come here already trained to expect to use their brains and engage for a good 45 minutes of content that theyve been (most likely) waiting for. Even in this short period some friends and me already kinda formed a habit of watching "the new highline episode" together at someones place, just like we did with other shows.
The open discussion, and intentional avoidance of spoon feeding and hard conclusions, are your strongest and most likable features, and additionally they all add up as a thought-provoking aspect. Bringing people along the whole process of it is amazing as it provides them with a visual understanding of the whole thing which really helps a ton in the learning process.
So keep em coming
Really helpful feedback! Thank you.
Awesome video, can't wait for parts 2 and 3!
Also, with the abrasion issues with Dyneema, is it safe to use a soft shackle in place of a regular shackle trough the sewn loop and the spanset/rope despite the fabric-on-fabric action?
Parts 2 and 3 are way better than this one. I cover the rope on rope concerns about Dyneema in parts 2 and 3 but the quick version is ropes MOVING over ropes is really bad. A soft shackle on a master point isn't moving so it IS fine, a soft shackle on a soft release is moving... and under a load... so that IS bad. I have used the same soft shackle for years and there is essentially no abrasion. We also did break tests recently and with loops breaking over the soft shackles... those soft shackles are still fine. Check out the teaser for that! :) ua-cam.com/video/mBVQ3Eo6mLc/v-deo.html
amazing thank you! also, do you think there are any ways to get a sewn loop put into a webbing i already own?
I found a guy locally who did legit bar tacks. I tested mine after he did them and they are good. It's tricky to find a company who can AND will do a loop for you. Jerry at Balance Community does good loops with his bad ass machine. You can always ask him if he would sew them for you even though it is not new webbing and whether or not it isn't his brand of webbing. He might though. You would just have to pay shipping though. I had to find a local source because I was going to do A LOT of loops for 15 different pieces I have AND 30 different break tests. See what he says.
Anthony... if you want to see a video that isn't a video that I made for my crew to show that my loops were good and the soft shackle connecting method works on them up to 2000lbf (which is double what we put on the lines) so they feel warm and fuzzy about the big projects we have planned, check this out (not edited to be an episode) ua-cam.com/video/VsYn6P7oeog/v-deo.html
Thanks Ryan for handling my probing and keep up the great uploads!
How do you find highlining festivals?
Can you use a whoopie sling as a long line anchor sling around a tree with a soft or metal shackle connecting the soft release or sewn loops? Or can you also tie a double fishermans knot on each end of a 30 ft static rope and turn it into a 15 ft "sling" that you can wrap around a tree like a spanset?
Sure. It holds enough. Whoopies are a nice versatile tool that way. The concern is that they are skinny so try to pad the tree so that they don't strangle the shit out of it. One layer of fabric doesn't prevent that, it prevents rubbing bark off where it moves up and down. Multiple layers of fabric, carpet (fuzzy side towards tree), or tree pro with sticks glued to the back side of it to spread out the load are nice. Static rope is what I show in video 3 (that comes out in a few weeks) because it is great for highlining and works just fine for a tree. You can turn it into a sling like you said or tie 2 figure 8s on the ends and connect to those... lots of way to skin that cat.
What's whipping? How wide is the webbing?
Very helpful
Thank you!!
Yes ! Yes i do
I can't get to the link of the webbing chart, and also where do I get the webbing you suggested? I checked slacktivity, balance community, and slacklife BC and can't find the webbing you said to get. Any help on where I can find this? The Facebook link doesn't work for me either
It’s a new website and that video is pretty old so a lot of the webbings have changed so just use those videos as a how to buy not what to buy type of information.
Who makes the titanium rings for the leash?
Thanks!
would you said its ok to use 8 mm auxiliary cord thats rated 16 kn as the anchors?
If it is in a 3 point BFK it is strong enough. 8mm used between two bolts should be doubled up.
All the beginner sets I see online use a ratchet which also acts as a line grip. Is there a reason why you don’t use that kind of system?
Too much line to take in for ratchets on longer lines to get correct tension, the ratchet would clog before it was tight enough, also less to go wrong with hard set ups. Did you get a beginner set??
I don't know if anyone already commented on why the locker was added to the hangover, but I can shed some light on that. I was once highlining on a circus event in Poland, which loads of people walking under us. I had one of these clipped to my harness, and I just managed to fall in a way that the line was able to push through the clip of the hangover, causing it to open and fall from my harness. I was lucky it didn't hit anyone down there, but I could have killed someone _else_, while highlining. Pretty neat huh?
What length would be adequate for a versatile rope anchor (BFK)?
I use to say 10 meters but trying to tie a bfk today on a 4 bolt anchor didnt seem enough so we only used 3 of them. Maybe 12 meters.
When it comes to measurements become British we use both metric and imperial. Best of both worlds.
I can across your channel and thought Freddie freeman from the braves was making UA-cam videos about climbing
A...the piece of gear on the left next to the green spansets resting on the hooks holding quick links...what is that?
if you know you know
@@oneilljames1 lol
@@oneilljames1 lol
Hey Ryan I love your videos but unfortunately i don't understand a single word of what you say you could maybe add a german subtitle in the future? Much regards
Maybe its a case if how much do you value your life at. A 20 buck item you die but at 40 bucks you survive.
do you have any links to the russian linegrip?
Jack Porteous here are some links from next videos description.
See Cameron Studley tension with the Snatch, a cheaper option if the LineGrip is too expensive for you. ua-cam.com/video/E5pqjzmnN1I/v-deo.html and you can buy them from Kolya facebook.com/nshalnov
Cheers for the inspiration to go ask that chick at my climbing gym if I can buy her dinner 😂
Hello from the Czech republic! All of EQB's equipment says not to use more than 1m off the ground for legal reasons. EQB is the most popular brand here and I'd recommend their products for highlining. Just to clear that up
Why is the sheriff only rated for 12kn? It has similar design and materials as higher rated weblocks.
12kn is the working load limit of sheriff and 60kn is the breaking limit I'm pretty sure. Most of us here use the tandem tensioning system (also from equilibrium) for highlines. It's a super lightweight clever combo of a weblock, a soft release and a tesioning system rolled into one. There is no need for anything else. I've seen 100m lines rigged with it, but it'll go more if you don't mind it loose.
Here is the link www.slackshop.cz/en/pulley-systems/39-eqb-tandem-fx.html
ian cameron i think this is a good solution for slacklines. I was thinking about this all day and i was wondering how it would be for a highline. If the anchor is right next to a cliff, dont I have to reach like 5 meters out to start the soft release tensioning since im winding up the soft release to create friction? The only other hesitation i have is a soft release on the tension side makes it much harder to derig... not impossible since it is done all the time, but harder. I kind of like having the soft release as its own unit and the flexibility to use weblock however i need to.
It's only as inconvenient as a pulley system without a linegrip really, just lighter and with a little less pulling power. There is a rope break (really a webbing break) and a multiplier built in so it's not necessary to wind it up way past the edge. We have a 55m line close to our city that when this piece of gear is included in the rig I'd say we have less than $600 worth of gear up there. Your tips will save some more! Sewn loops sound like the new way to go 👍
The main thing I got from the video, people will buy prusik loops for $8.
churchofslacklife and slackademics are no longer available?
No. All my stuff is at hownot2.com now
@@HowNOT2 Thanks! great job by the way. This help us a lot.
one thing I made sure I have is a decent webbing seat. This to me is like underwear. You don't lend that out. If I'm going somewhere I *might* be climbing/rappelling/spelunking/any other kind of ropework, the seat goes in my day pack.
Definitely willing to carry your shit for a highline trip haha none of my slack line friends highline sooo #worthit. also i put up a comment in the discussion tab of your page check it out!
Sounds good.... many people think I'm joking when I offer that ;). I'm the laziest hard working guy you'll meet. Hit me up on fb messenger.
Cool
Seriously though, thanks for the video.
"If you don't have anything"
right...
"and are broke as shhhit"
*MY MAAAN!*
Does that work for dert bagging I will pay you 50 dollers month to sleep in your yard in a tent if you live near Yosemite the closed down camp four 😁👍
gas grass or ass lmao ,well i live in good oll colorado so bringing the flowers no problem here hahaha if i had a dollar to share right now i would sorry
Can ya carry this bag up that hill for me 😂
hang on, i'll totally haul loads and buy burgers, when you wanna go to baffin?
Anyone slackin in toronto
I want to follow you on instagram, if you have one,please, put a link
I post snippets of current projects on there. Most stuff on youtube that you see is a minimum of 6 weeks old. @howNOTtoHighline
I'll carry your shit on a trip.
Gas, grass, or ass. 😂😂😂
Obviously Ryan nobody teach you when you were young to be kind and respectful to older people and spend a few seconds to say something about my question.
Likely other fellows did answered to me..
By the way, I noticed you never forget to ask regularly from all of us money and money and money..
stelioscdn,
Toronto - Canada
How about just being a nice and pleasant person. You don’t need to talk the lingo or even pay my lunch. Be a decent human being, try your best and you can ride with me and my group for nothing. The rest will come along the way
Driving you somewhere would be a possibility, but carrying your shit isn't going to happen.
This video is really long
Do you like them long ;)? I'm teaching HOW to buy, not what to BUY. If you want a list, go to a slackline company and you will get the spoon fed version but you will have to pull out your credit card for it haha.
HowNOTtoHIGHLINE maybe it would be better with several short videos? In the end, I end up watching the whole video anyway😊 So nice to see different solutions
Some people have really liked the longer ones, some like them shorter. I try to do a mix because I know there are different preferences. It is hard to break up a buying guide video telling people not to buy things in a shorter video without getting trolled to death. haha. Ironically I did break this video up into 3. The gear, slacklining with the gear, highlining with the gear. I just talk a lot I guess haha. Thank you for the input though. I consider everyone's feedback while making videos.