I dug around and found some of his old interviews and clips from some of his other work and he is actually a solid actor and seemingly a really nice guy. So I blame the writers for not making his character what it should have been. They fumbled the bag on that one.
@@themightypen1530 It's more 'modern audiences' nonsense. The brotherhood of steel can't be good or smart. They have to be shades of stupid-evil. Getting pretty tired of jaded Gen X morality, tbh. Good vs evil was the best story for thousands of years before gen x came along, and will be again once we retire.
"rooting for her" is a great way of finding out if your main character is any good in any tv show and if it has any chance of longevity. I'm definitely looking at you, rings of power!
Lucy giving her resumé in ep1 was a pretty clever way of keeping her from being a Mary Sue. It means that we know that she is a trained fighter even though that contrasts with her personality, and she hasn't seen any real violence, and provides some limits to exactly what is in her skillset. Without those few minutes showing what the character is trained to do it would come as a shock that the "1950s housewife" is able to fight off raiders, handle blades and guns, know detailed pre-war history, or repair machinery. None of that fits preconceptions for the "1950s housewife" trope, so if the character were able to pick up a gun and hit confidently without any explanation, it would set off alarms for the audience. We don't need to be told that the veteran gunslinger or trainee soldier know something about fighting, but if you want a character who is introduced focussing on her wedding and future family to also be a fighter, you need to tell us what exactly she can do, and keep her within those limits.
They did well having them know these things, but not be masters of them too. Lucy has the martial arts skills of a normal person who's taken some classes.
@@BlazingOwnager yes, exactly. They not only set up that she had trained, but then they kept her skill set realistic. They didn’t use her training as an excuse to make her OP.
@@GeorgiaCav furthermore I felt it was actually reasonable in how it handled the portrayal of martial violence. Lucy, even with some training, couldn't just put down any many in her path, it was clear she got physically dominated by the Ghoul and other men would definitely pose a threat to her. And the show makes it clear that it's her taking up of arms that equalizes that a bit for her and she's better able to protect herself, though she still retains an unwillingness to use violence unless absolutely required which I liked as it preserved some of her innocence despite her maturing into the realization of the wasteland.
Yes, this also was well shown in the bridge scene with the 2 fiends where she froze while maximus was just waiting for when things would go wrong. While in vault 4 where she thought she was gonna be experimented on, she took action and put those hand to hand skills to use, she got overwhellmed but put up an excelent fight.
She also gets her ass handed to her hard in some cases and she learns and grows just look at how she enters the medical research building she enters like a cop as well. she also doesn’t beat max or whatever his name was they threw each other around the room anything else she would have easily won
@@kylestoddard2881 It was come as no surprise to you that you did not miss anything other then the pain of watching a train wreck strung out over two seasons. Count yourself lucky!😂
They did handle Lucy perfectly. Like you said.. she's very competent without being a Mary Sue, actually has flaws and actually has character development. They let her make mistakes, sometimes BIG ones, too..
Exactly not being a Mary-Sue, which all recent female leads has been, makes her very interesting and likable. The evolution from being a vault-dweller to becoming a surface-dweller or at least learn the ways on the surface was clear and interesting. And helped make all episodes interesting too. What Hollywood don't seem understand is that basically it's the development what makes us wanna watch not the end goal or the complete character.
Yeah she fails due to ignorance and innocence a lot. We also see the strength she has in her convictions as well as her growth in character throughout the season
Lots of the characters felt like they were actually RPG characters with stats. Lucy looked up a guide for character creation to make a solid vault dweller build. Maximus dumped every point he ever got into luck and guns 😂
Maximus was written for a teenager, the actor cast was much too old. If you envisioned him as a teenage child soldier it would've made him make FAR more sense.
To me it actually makes sense if he was raised in an environment like that. He’s basically in a middle school environment. He’s stunted on a social level because of that.
I guess my biggest criticism is for the Brotherhood of Steel. In the games, the Brotherhood is comprised of well-disciplined and capable zealots that treat each other very well, but despise everything in the wasteland that isn't 100% human while coveting all the tech. But in the show, they're cruel and not very loyal or competent, especially the 4 characters we're introduced to: Max, Dane, Titus and Thaddeus, though Thad gets a pass because he's actually a pretty good character.
reddit had a solid theory that might explain it. notice all their names. Roman. Including the elder cleric Quintus. BOS in the show might be either merged with Ceaser's legion or requited heavily from. and most are only recent BOS additions.
@@Cassandra112 And that may be, but it is a horrible first look at the faction. Any new viewers will be given the wrong impression of the faction unless a purge happens.
I think they will elaborate on that in the next season(s). I'm left with the impression that the Brotherhood of Steel is corrupted and very much in a state of decline at this point in the timeline. The first hints of this has to do with the flashbacks that Maximus has. I think the Brotherhood that Maximus grew up idolizing became something much less honorable and virtuous as he aged, but he didn't see it clearly until Knight Titus burst that bubble for him. Titus demonstrated cowardice, impatience, weak leadership, callous egocentricity, and zero accountability. Of course Maximus failed in his duty as squire, but Titus' expectation of loyalty, having earned none whatsoever, would inevitably collapse as trust could not grow between them if Titus continued the pattern he'd established. We also have Elder Cleric Quintus, someone that seems resentful of how the Brotherhood has changed, but also very power hungry with designs on rebuilding the order to meet his vision. There are little puzzle pieces like this scattered throughout the Brotherhood scenes, but I think a picture will start forming early to mid-season 2 that will bring some clarity.
The current group of Brotherhood characters are 3rd rate. This could make sense if they massively expanded and I've taken riff raff the fact that they have training camps For disposable squires Indicates that they have a surplus of people
@@DarthPoyner oh, absolutely. it was something I talked about in my primary post on this. nothing is explained. who are the BOS? what is a ghoul? what is a raider? whats the difference between a fusion core, and cold fusion? theres a TON of things presented with no explanation at all.
I really enjoyed it. Personally, I think the scenes with Norm and the unravelling mystery of Vault 31 were the best, there was a lot of sinister undertones/tension mixed in with dashes of dark humour. The same feeling I had when exploring creepy Vaults in the game itself. The dual stories of the actor/ghoul were a very close second, Goggins hit it right out of the park. As for Maximus, I'm not sure what the Leader of the Brotherhood, or Lucy, see in his excellent depiction of the idiot savant.
As a big fan of the FO games, and Walter Goggins from the Justified show, loved his reaction to the bombs falling and even moreso his heartbreaking reaction to hearing the evil plotting of his wife (beautifully portrayed by Turner). Purcell is terrific, as are Betty and the rest of the vault-dwellers. The brotjerhood is ok, hope it gets fleshed out in S2. Maximus is fine eventually, the love story is ok. Writing is excellent, lot of quirky humor. The revelations about the dad were very good. Magnificent, hope it doesn't fall off in quality like Westworld. Plan a rewatch soon.
Like you, I was a bit concerned about where the writers were going with Lucy. I'm glad to see this has really turned out to be a great series. I've put my fair share of time into playing the game. That being said, I appreciate the artistic license that has been taken in order to enrichen the story and the characters without sacrificing the framework. I'm really looking forward to season 2.
She also gets her ass handed to her hard in some cases and she learns and grows just look at how she enters the medical research building she enters like a cop as well. she also doesn’t beat max or whatever his name was they threw each other around the room anything else she would have easily won
It's a great, fun show. I am happy they are a big beacon in the darkness of entertainment right now, I hope their example inspires some change. Thanks Paul.
Yeah, gotta agree. Goggins and Parnell are outstanding, and Maximus is very blah. The world design is excellent and the story is as good as many video game stories are.
Huzzah! I'll have to check this out, I've been waiting for someone of whom I trust their insight. Thanks, Paul, I'm glad this one wasn't too painful for you!
Amazon... Every show does NOT have to have LGBTQIABCDEFG+ Characters. It is OK if they are there, but do not shove it in our face and force it down our throats.
Here`s the thing about the show that most gamers misunderstood was the fall of Shady Sands and it`s timeline between Fallout 1 and New Vegas. The producers admit that they should have explained better, but it was not changed. The Fall of Shady Sands as per the chalkboard just meant the begging of the end of it`s influence and not it`s actually destruction. The destruction of the town happened just after the New Vegas game and the show`s timeline is very close after whatever happened to New Vegas that we saw in the end of this season. The producers on interviews made sure to point out that all the games are in fact canon in the show!
@@BoojayDeeth Shady Sands being nuked before the start of New Vegas is pretty hard to cover up as well the vanishing of the boneyard. It a pure retconned with only two good characters both of them not human
@@southcoastinventors6583 Many a true nerd did a good video on the subject and he mentioned the same things. I wouldn't claim to be an expert on Fallout lore, but my sentiment still stands. I think it's a middling show with some good fun bits. It's almost impossible to not have continuity conflicts on a TV show like this. Compared with other shows I think the offences are minor and could be rounded over (or made much worse) in future series. It's no surprise that some people hate the series, people have their sacred cows. It's hard not to chuckle at some of the more hysterical gamer gatekeeping though.
The sense of relief is realizing that you can do diversity quite well without beating the user over the head with equity and social statements that preempt the story
Was honestly shocked at how much I enjoyed this show. Like everyone I was super sceptical about this because as we know video game adaptations don't have the best track record. But I have to give it to them they actually did a really good job recreating the Fallout universe in my opinion. Everything looked the way it was supposed to, the CGI looked good, story and characters were interesting and decently acted. All in all I'm happy with how it turned out and I'm looking forward to hopefully more seasons.
He literally explains it and even seems remorseful and makes sure the dog can breath, but having the dog was a hindrence to his quest. It made sense. He put the quest before the dog.
wow that's awesome. I would love a breakdown of the props and how they work. As a software engineering student I was amazed by how realist all the computers and systems looked.
And Poe should be like the Goul, half criminall, half hero, all survivor. A roguish rebel instead of goody-two-shoes soldier. A more mature version of Leia, Luke and Han, basically.
I've been a massive fan of fallout starting when fallout 3 trailers started coming out. I thought the show nailed it. The world of fallout may not go in the direction I always want it to but I thought they did an incredible job with putting the world of fallout to a TV format
I think having Bethesda involved in the show made a big difference, and unlike other game adaptations like Halo, they had a lot of respect for the unique world of Fallout.
That's bullshit and you know it. Bethesda never cared about Fallout's lore; if they did, they wouldn't let that pretentious crybaby Emil Pagliarilo stick around as creative lead. All they ever cared about was the "50's retropunk" aesthetic and how much mass appeal they could shove in.
I've been forming my opinion on Emil and his dogshit writing since FO3, after he complained that players kept destroying his carefully-laid narratives and resolved to just give players the simplest, most dishwater-dull shit He could. Fuck Emil, and fuck anyone who tries to convince me against my own eyes.
@@disconcerningcitizen2224 Except that you know I'm right and are just gaslighting me. Emil Pagliarilo bemoaned how players would just take his lore, rip the pages out, and make paper airplanes out of it: that's why he resolved to only write the most basic, dishwater-dull crap he could pass off as "lore" to support whatever sandboxy crap the devs had cooked up. Josh Sawyer was the last, best hope of Fallout's chronology; Amazon and BGS dragged his work out back and put a bullet in its head out of spite. No amount of your Wormtongue nonsense will ever convince me otherwise.
Love the show, agree on all point you brought up. I also did not connect with Maximus's character it felt not very believable at times. The art direction of the show is outstanding and lots of details from the game are a joy. 10/10 especially in light of the crap we usually get.
My favorite line of the episodes I’ve seen this far, and I don’t expect any lines will top it: “The wasteland has its own golden rule. Thou shalt get sidetracked by bullsh*t every godd**n time!” It’s so well integrated in the scene and so true to playing the game.
@@MurderMostFowl She's dying and couldn't reflect that in the way she delivered her dialogue. Ragged, labored breathing. Little gasps. Something was needed there.
As I said on his other video I've been playing Fallout since the first game was released. I have a lot of gripes about the show, some big, some small and nit-picky but over all I liked it. It looks like Ella Purnell is going to be the face of the franchise now, which I am okay with. I appreciate that she took the time to play at least one of the games. It just shows you how having even a little respect for the source material will go a long way. Halo, The Witcher, I'm lookin` at you two.
@@Warhaawk Enjoying both character portrayals from them, as well as Goggins' and Frances Turner's (Barb Howard) in the pre-war scenes. They work well together. =)
Lucy is fun to watch. She's actually the kind of character I would make in the game. No girl boss detected...she's a vault dweller. Maximus was terribly cringe.
I agree. I think they set her up well. I HATED that actress in Army of the Dead (But I also HATED Army of the Dead) but she was great here. The character was shown to have developed skills from training. She was the daughter of a respected leader, and so learned diplomacy skills, that weren't very hand, as it turned out. She's a good character. I hope they allow her to keep her character's growth in the 2nd season, and don't reset her.
Knew nothing about "Fallout" prior to the series. Loved it... (even my wife loved it). Just 'off center' enough to be unpredictably predictable-ish... loose ends tied up... lots of futute plot points dangled... beautifully filmed to have a video game vibe... tons of details. More please...
The soundtrack is wonderful too. I loved it -never played the game and came to it just a dying man in a desert of shite. And it was GOOD! I haven’t seen better character driven drama since ‘Slow Horses’ - and that is high praise indeed. Bravo!
Great review Chato. For me the show improves a lot as it progresses, I wasn't convinced after the first 2 eps. Perhaps this is why they chose the dump rather than weekly. Walton Goggins masterful performance is just the best, some pre-war scenes are convincing as proper drama. I wonder how accessible it is for the non-gamers. I've been just as entertained watching the self appointed gatekeepers throw their toys about and berating all and sundry for not agreeing with them. All told, I think it was good and would be surprised not to see another series (in 2 years time probably).
I've only played a bit of the third game, and I like how it's been translated onscreen. I didn't hate the first two episodes. Actually, they had me eager to watch more episodes.
Whatever valid criticisms there are, you can't deny that it's 100% a Fallout show. The look, the sounds, the characters, the types of stories - dark conspiracies by evil corporations, are all there.
@@jamesanthony8438 I THOUGHT I wanted that music all along. But I kinda liked that they saved it for a big moment later. Any Fallout fan would have sat up immediately and recognized that it was an important moment for the show, and that's clever.
@@BlazingOwnager I think was more of a reaction to the '50s era McCarthyism that they were trying to portray since the Fallout world does seems to be a corporatocracy. Anti-corporate rhetoric is a bit ironic from 2 of the biggest companies in the west: Amazon and Microsoft.
I watched it right through yesterday and thought it was the best thing I’d watched for a long time. Definite Westworld reminders in there. But that’s a plus. Good characterisation. Convincing performances. Engaging storyline. I’m up for more
I played the original Fallout as an RPG and created a character with an Intelligence of 1 all the way through. I hope that they can capture that kind of character depth, for me it was and still is the best part of the Wasteland-Fallout series.
I hated episodes 1 and 2 but after talking to my son who said it was reasonably well received I went further and I am glad I did, I still have trouble with societies too stupid to survive so I had to turn that bit of my brain off. But as the episodes went on, I warmed up to it, looking forward to the last 2.
The only thing that put me off was the whole pro-Communist message and how they tried to claim the rebooted NCR was Communist (they were a capitalistic democratic society, what made them unique in FO)
That's what has kept me from engaging when considering the long line of butchered IPs in recent years. The show description vomits up front "it's a story about haves and have-nots" which is typical marxist language.
They were called commies because they hated corporations. She wanted a free market, so her cold fusion wouldn't have been bought and buried by vault tech so they could protect their dooms day intrests.
@@rucker69 Those sorts of stories don't have to. You can critique out of control corporatism and capitalism (See: Robocop) without going full Communist. Here, they literally do that.
Did I miss the communism? Or are you talking about that one line from Moldaver to Cooper Howard? I must have missed where they said the NCR is communist now.
I was really surprised by the hacking of the overseer's terminal later in the season. It was identical to how players hack terminals in Fallout 4. It happens really quick though, i wonder how many people noticed.
It really depends on how much of an OG Fallout fan you are, in my experience. The normies in the house found it to be mostly entertaining, but with some dull spots and iffy writing that was nonsensical at times. But okay, 5-6 out of ten with the brain switched off. For me, a fan of the series since the first 97 game, it was pure torture other than the visual design, set dressing, and mostly good acting from the leads. 2 out of 10 from me personally.
@@BobSmith-kk4kp See I don't have a problem with people unfamiliar with Fallout enjoying it. What I DO have a problem with is Todd preaching to all the world it's canon. That's lumping two vastly different audiences with each other and expecting everything to go peachy.
@@RedStar441 Agreed. The director even came out and said it was not for fans, and he was not lying - it is not. My biggest issue is people claiming to be serious Fallout fans saying that it is 'great' and 'faithful', when it is neither. And Todd calling it canon is quite rich, when he and Hines have destroyed the series canon for years and mocked people for caring when they did. Most of these people do not seem to understand what canon really is, and who decides what is and is not . Lucas and Disney never understood either, and it has made their work worse and worse over the years.
@@BobSmith-kk4kp I've been a fan of Fallout since 98, in my experience the ones that hate the show are tourists determined to hate the show. They've yet to give a good reason for their claims of 'ReTcOn' that isn't hilariously easy to explain away. Beware people who just peruse the wiki then claim to be big fans of the lore.
Check out the games. They're all super cheap right now. FO1 & 2 are amazing in a different kind of way but if you're just jumping in, honestly, start with 4. It's the most modern even though I think FO2 is the best.
@@BlazingOwnager : 3's more the distilled feel that people are bemoaning it didn't follow. I'm guessing they followed 4's rough lead in the design of the show from the sounds of things. 4 was adjusted to make it fit more casual gamers.
I stopped gaming before the Fallout games shipped. I truly missed out. I loved the show and I went and pulled the trigger on Fallout 4 for $5 on Steam, installed the high resolution textures and got it going in 4K UHD on an Nvidia RTX-4090 and it's glorious! I am completely hooked.
Thanks for the vidja. I am so very, very pleased to hear that whatever reservations you had to your green-light video the series managed to come through in the end. I waited until I got enough reviews to convince me that I would not just be hate-watching another show. I do not have enough time for that anymore. ALL I ASK is to be entertained by the idiot-box.... THAT IS ALL. (Well... to start at least...) I played Wasteland and then when they came out the Fallout series. All of them. This is distinct from them but I am not going to whine or get angry because different is not bad per se. I liked this adaptation and as you point out they got some REALLY good talent and the script was not too shabby. I did enjoy Westworld the first season but fellout (hah) from the rest of the series when they got brain-worms or whatever happened to the writers. Pleasantly surprised and looking forward to more seasons. Peaceful Skies.
I'm glad you ended up enjoying the show. I haven't played the games, so I had none of the baggage, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. The worldbuilding is soectacular and, as you say, the potential for great stories is endless.
There absolutely is DEI in the show, but it’s implemented like it was back in days, organically and never at the cost of the story and characters… Lucy is likeable and believable and all characters had smart intelligent writing. The show actually revived my love for fallout and I’ve been on a lore and gaming binge since I’ve finished the show. And there’s no “retconning” that’s just people that haven’t paid attention to what is said in the show. New Vegas canon is fine. Shady sands got nuked later than 2277, mostly likely 2284. We’re also talking about information written on a whiteboard by characters in-universe not the show runner telling us…
It brings back memories of a similar series with a western science fiction look: Firefly / Serenity. It's a shame that this series was never continued.
5:26 But they ended fine!? I played many gory and inproparate games as kid and teenager, ended up just fine! I don't thing parents should ban kids from playing such games, maybe give guidance like - hey that's not good beating up innocent bystanders in something like Grand Theft Auto etc
@@mikcnmvedmsfonoteka We did that when the kids were playing Simpsons Road Rage, pointing out that no, you can NOT drive your car on the sidewalk and knock people over, etc..
My favorite part is all the memes of the Maximus character having the ‘idiot savant’ perk.
Haha, forgot that skill, he is a perfect idiot savant;)
He absolutely does 😂
While that's funny and all, my God is he an insufferable wet blanket for a lot of the show.
@@alecstewart2612 some people are like that, in shows and real life.
@@KeytarArgonian doesn't mean I want to see them be an annoying wet blanket in a TV show.
I like that the main actress went out of her way to play the games and learn more about the lore.
@reilly-vc1rm LOL. Well, basic research. But far more than the average writer or actor is willing to do these days for their craft.
Lucy and the Ghoul pair up is classic buddy cop dynamic and it works.
Rather it was Dogmeat and the Ghoul.
I saw someone say their characters have a: ‘She nudges him one way, he yanks her the other’ kind of dynamic and it’s a great description.
Someone should have given the "Never go full ret*rd" speech, to the guy who plays Maximus.
I like to think he's taken the Idiot Savant perk.
@@BoojayDeeth You beat me to it. 👍
I dug around and found some of his old interviews and clips from some of his other work and he is actually a solid actor and seemingly a really nice guy. So I blame the writers for not making his character what it should have been. They fumbled the bag on that one.
or just tell him to act like a rational person at least once
@@themightypen1530 It's more 'modern audiences' nonsense. The brotherhood of steel can't be good or smart. They have to be shades of stupid-evil. Getting pretty tired of jaded Gen X morality, tbh. Good vs evil was the best story for thousands of years before gen x came along, and will be again once we retire.
"rooting for her" is a great way of finding out if your main character is any good in any tv show and if it has any chance of longevity. I'm definitely looking at you, rings of power!
Rooting for Lucy
RoP is garbage
"There is a tempest in me!!" *rat face intensifies*
World ends, 'women most affected'.
Awesome.
They actually would be
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@@jabrockobiden9434 no
@@jabrockobiden9434 You! 🤔Uhp!! 🤔 ... Touche.
Black denim? Are you going to a Canadian funeral?
Thank you for making me laugh lol
I needed that today.
LOL
I LOL'd as well.
Haha!
Wow! The Canadien Tuxedo on full center. Its either a funeral or Chuck Norris’s 3rd wedding.
It was nice to see so many real sets built and locations filmed in for the show. They looked fantastic, so huge credit to all involved!
"I don't have to look at Bethesda's game engine..." AMEN
All I can say about Lucy is "Oky Doky!"
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@@Lordoftheapes79 I removed mine to keep it there, LoL
Lucy giving her resumé in ep1 was a pretty clever way of keeping her from being a Mary Sue. It means that we know that she is a trained fighter even though that contrasts with her personality, and she hasn't seen any real violence, and provides some limits to exactly what is in her skillset.
Without those few minutes showing what the character is trained to do it would come as a shock that the "1950s housewife" is able to fight off raiders, handle blades and guns, know detailed pre-war history, or repair machinery. None of that fits preconceptions for the "1950s housewife" trope, so if the character were able to pick up a gun and hit confidently without any explanation, it would set off alarms for the audience.
We don't need to be told that the veteran gunslinger or trainee soldier know something about fighting, but if you want a character who is introduced focussing on her wedding and future family to also be a fighter, you need to tell us what exactly she can do, and keep her within those limits.
They did well having them know these things, but not be masters of them too. Lucy has the martial arts skills of a normal person who's taken some classes.
@@BlazingOwnager yes, exactly. They not only set up that she had trained, but then they kept her skill set realistic. They didn’t use her training as an excuse to make her OP.
@@GeorgiaCav furthermore I felt it was actually reasonable in how it handled the portrayal of martial violence. Lucy, even with some training, couldn't just put down any many in her path, it was clear she got physically dominated by the Ghoul and other men would definitely pose a threat to her. And the show makes it clear that it's her taking up of arms that equalizes that a bit for her and she's better able to protect herself, though she still retains an unwillingness to use violence unless absolutely required which I liked as it preserved some of her innocence despite her maturing into the realization of the wasteland.
Yes, this also was well shown in the bridge scene with the 2 fiends where she froze while maximus was just waiting for when things would go wrong.
While in vault 4 where she thought she was gonna be experimented on, she took action and put those hand to hand skills to use, she got overwhellmed but put up an excelent fight.
She also gets her ass handed to her hard in some cases and she learns and grows just look at how she enters the medical research building she enters like a cop as well. she also doesn’t beat max or whatever his name was they threw each other around the room anything else she would have easily won
Woman to mushroom cloud: "But I'm a girl." She's instantly vaporized. The Universe shrugs.
When does that happen?
The dog in the fridge was sort of callback to the game, you meet up with Dogmeat at a Red Rocket station very early on in Fallout 4.
Westworld season 1 was a masterpiece.
Westworld season 2 was a dumpster fire.
Love how you did not mention seasons 3 and 4 where they poured gasoline on the dumpster fire!🤣🔥
Yup!
Agreed
@@doberski6855 I personally stopped watching after season 2.....
@@kylestoddard2881 It was come as no surprise to you that you did not miss anything other then the pain of watching a train wreck strung out over two seasons. Count yourself lucky!😂
Patrolling the Mojave Almost Makes You Wish For a Nuclear Winter
Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for an arrow in the knee.
They did handle Lucy perfectly. Like you said.. she's very competent without being a Mary Sue, actually has flaws and actually has character development. They let her make mistakes, sometimes BIG ones, too..
Exactly not being a Mary-Sue, which all recent female leads has been, makes her very interesting and likable. The evolution from being a vault-dweller to becoming a surface-dweller or at least learn the ways on the surface was clear and interesting. And helped make all episodes interesting too. What Hollywood don't seem understand is that basically it's the development what makes us wanna watch not the end goal or the complete character.
@@sebulbathx Growth is what story telling has been for ages.
U are all Mary Sue's
Yeah she fails due to ignorance and innocence a lot. We also see the strength she has in her convictions as well as her growth in character throughout the season
Lots of the characters felt like they were actually RPG characters with stats. Lucy looked up a guide for character creation to make a solid vault dweller build.
Maximus dumped every point he ever got into luck and guns 😂
I felt Norm was the audience perspective. Norm was willing to ask questions, in my eyes was not a coward.
Maximus was written for a teenager, the actor cast was much too old. If you envisioned him as a teenage child soldier it would've made him make FAR more sense.
To me it actually makes sense if he was raised in an environment like that. He’s basically in a middle school environment. He’s stunted on a social level because of that.
Good point.
@@AnthonyPompa Excellent point.
@@AnthonyPompa Good point.
Finding a teen at equal level of acting as someone twice his age is a LOT harder.
There is a reason you cast older the actors get better with age
Episode 1 title cards:
LUCY = THE GOOD
MAXIMUS = THE BAD
THE GHOUL = THE UGLY (cue warbling vocals theme and Western shootout)
"Feo, fuerte y formal"
I guess my biggest criticism is for the Brotherhood of Steel. In the games, the Brotherhood is comprised of well-disciplined and capable zealots that treat each other very well, but despise everything in the wasteland that isn't 100% human while coveting all the tech. But in the show, they're cruel and not very loyal or competent, especially the 4 characters we're introduced to: Max, Dane, Titus and Thaddeus, though Thad gets a pass because he's actually a pretty good character.
reddit had a solid theory that might explain it. notice all their names. Roman. Including the elder cleric Quintus. BOS in the show might be either merged with Ceaser's legion or requited heavily from. and most are only recent BOS additions.
@@Cassandra112 And that may be, but it is a horrible first look at the faction. Any new viewers will be given the wrong impression of the faction unless a purge happens.
I think they will elaborate on that in the next season(s). I'm left with the impression that the Brotherhood of Steel is corrupted and very much in a state of decline at this point in the timeline.
The first hints of this has to do with the flashbacks that Maximus has. I think the Brotherhood that Maximus grew up idolizing became something much less honorable and virtuous as he aged, but he didn't see it clearly until Knight Titus burst that bubble for him. Titus demonstrated cowardice, impatience, weak leadership, callous egocentricity, and zero accountability. Of course Maximus failed in his duty as squire, but Titus' expectation of loyalty, having earned none whatsoever, would inevitably collapse as trust could not grow between them if Titus continued the pattern he'd established.
We also have Elder Cleric Quintus, someone that seems resentful of how the Brotherhood has changed, but also very power hungry with designs on rebuilding the order to meet his vision. There are little puzzle pieces like this scattered throughout the Brotherhood scenes, but I think a picture will start forming early to mid-season 2 that will bring some clarity.
The current group of Brotherhood characters are 3rd rate. This could make sense if they massively expanded and I've taken riff raff the fact that they have training camps For disposable squires Indicates that they have a surplus of people
@@DarthPoyner oh, absolutely. it was something I talked about in my primary post on this. nothing is explained. who are the BOS? what is a ghoul? what is a raider? whats the difference between a fusion core, and cold fusion? theres a TON of things presented with no explanation at all.
As the local fiend dope dealer, I support this new documentary of my hood.
I loved it. Good thing for Maximus that the ghoul didn't remember about that weak weld in the power armor until the last episode!
I really enjoyed it.
Personally, I think the scenes with Norm and the unravelling mystery of Vault 31 were the best, there was a lot of sinister undertones/tension mixed in with dashes of dark humour. The same feeling I had when exploring creepy Vaults in the game itself. The dual stories of the actor/ghoul were a very close second, Goggins hit it right out of the park.
As for Maximus, I'm not sure what the Leader of the Brotherhood, or Lucy, see in his excellent depiction of the idiot savant.
As a big fan of the FO games, and Walter Goggins from the Justified show, loved his reaction to the bombs falling and even moreso his heartbreaking reaction to hearing the evil plotting of his wife (beautifully portrayed by Turner). Purcell is terrific, as are Betty and the rest of the vault-dwellers. The brotjerhood is ok, hope it gets fleshed out in S2. Maximus is fine eventually, the love story is ok. Writing is excellent, lot of quirky humor. The revelations about the dad were very good. Magnificent, hope it doesn't fall off in quality like Westworld. Plan a rewatch soon.
Like you, I was a bit concerned about where the writers were going with Lucy. I'm glad to see this has really turned out to be a great series. I've put my fair share of time into playing the game. That being said, I appreciate the artistic license that has been taken in order to enrichen the story and the characters without sacrificing the framework. I'm really looking forward to season 2.
She also gets her ass handed to her hard in some cases and she learns and grows just look at how she enters the medical research building she enters like a cop as well. she also doesn’t beat max or whatever his name was they threw each other around the room anything else she would have easily won
It's a great, fun show. I am happy they are a big beacon in the darkness of entertainment right now, I hope their example inspires some change. Thanks Paul.
Yeah, gotta agree. Goggins and Parnell are outstanding, and Maximus is very blah. The world design is excellent and the story is as good as many video game stories are.
Huzzah! I'll have to check this out, I've been waiting for someone of whom I trust their insight. Thanks, Paul, I'm glad this one wasn't too painful for you!
Dear Amazon, More FALLOUT, REACHER, THE MAN IN THE HIGH CASTLE, and THE EXPANSE. Less RINGS OF POWER and THE WHEEL OF TIME.
And more The Tick!
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More Expanse, yes!
The Expanse is thoroughly done. I think it was right to move on when they did. But certainly more great shows.
Amazon... Every show does NOT have to have LGBTQIABCDEFG+ Characters. It is OK if they are there, but do not shove it in our face and force it down our throats.
The music from the games was mixed with other pieces that were period appropriate, so they didn’t blow through all the game music in the first season.
The Brotherhood is a caricature of the Brotherhood
Always was. Even in the very first game, it was so obvious they were cribbed off of 40k Space Marines.
Here`s the thing about the show that most gamers misunderstood was the fall of Shady Sands and it`s timeline between Fallout 1 and New Vegas. The producers admit that they should have explained better, but it was not changed. The Fall of Shady Sands as per the chalkboard just meant the begging of the end of it`s influence and not it`s actually destruction. The destruction of the town happened just after the New Vegas game and the show`s timeline is very close after whatever happened to New Vegas that we saw in the end of this season. The producers on interviews made sure to point out that all the games are in fact canon in the show!
Canon*
@@reezlaw 👍
I always thought that every successive game managed to change some lore from the previous ones.
When games have multiple endings how solid can the lore really be.
@@BoojayDeeth Shady Sands being nuked before the start of New Vegas is pretty hard to cover up as well the vanishing of the boneyard. It a pure retconned with only two good characters both of them not human
@@southcoastinventors6583 Many a true nerd did a good video on the subject and he mentioned the same things. I wouldn't claim to be an expert on Fallout lore, but my sentiment still stands. I think it's a middling show with some good fun bits. It's almost impossible to not have continuity conflicts on a TV show like this. Compared with other shows I think the offences are minor and could be rounded over (or made much worse) in future series. It's no surprise that some people hate the series, people have their sacred cows. It's hard not to chuckle at some of the more hysterical gamer gatekeeping though.
The sense of relief is realizing that you can do diversity quite well without beating the user over the head with equity and social statements that preempt the story
Was honestly shocked at how much I enjoyed this show. Like everyone I was super sceptical about this because as we know video game adaptations don't have the best track record. But I have to give it to them they actually did a really good job recreating the Fallout universe in my opinion. Everything looked the way it was supposed to, the CGI looked good, story and characters were interesting and decently acted. All in all I'm happy with how it turned out and I'm looking forward to hopefully more seasons.
Same so surprised I loved it
My favorite character is still the dog.
I don't know why that one guy stuffed him in a machine he couldn't escape. That was so awful. Without plot armor, it'd had a bad death.
He literally explains it and even seems remorseful and makes sure the dog can breath, but having the dog was a hindrence to his quest.
It made sense. He put the quest before the dog.
@@James_Bee So he put him in an inescapable death trap?
Dog doesn't do anything the entire show.
@@Spoopy_man exactly.... Dogmeat is his own man.
Fun fact, the screens on the Pip Boys are iPhones with some good programming to ad in scan lines and the grainy green phosphor monitor effect.
wow that's awesome. I would love a breakdown of the props and how they work. As a software engineering student I was amazed by how realist all the computers and systems looked.
I assumed it was just pure CGI.
The main point was they had respect for the fans and source material, it’s a simple but important lesson.
This is how the Star wars sequels should have been, Rey like Lucy and Finn like Maximuss
And Poe should be like the Goul, half criminall, half hero, all survivor. A roguish rebel instead of goody-two-shoes soldier.
A more mature version of Leia, Luke and Han, basically.
@@carloshenriquezimmer7543 coulda, woulda, shoulda. All gone now though. Star Wars is dead to me.
@@vulpinemachine YES WE GET IT, the comment is good though and I agree
To finish our last conversation... I'm glad you liked it.
It’s been a long time since I’ve seen a female character done really well
I feel the same about subject-verb agreement. ;)
Don't give up hope. One day, it might happen.
Well... this encourages me to watch it. Thanks!
I've been a massive fan of fallout starting when fallout 3 trailers started coming out. I thought the show nailed it. The world of fallout may not go in the direction I always want it to but I thought they did an incredible job with putting the world of fallout to a TV format
I’m surprised there wasn’t a promo spot for ‘California Pines’.
Obscure, but many will get it…….
I hope.
"Not a Mary Sue, nor a girlboss"
I guess I will be checking this show out
I think having Bethesda involved in the show made a big difference, and unlike other game adaptations like Halo, they had a lot of respect for the unique world of Fallout.
That's bullshit and you know it. Bethesda never cared about Fallout's lore; if they did, they wouldn't let that pretentious crybaby Emil Pagliarilo stick around as creative lead. All they ever cared about was the "50's retropunk" aesthetic and how much mass appeal they could shove in.
@chesterstevens8870 ehh, that's not true. You need to learn to form your own opinions and not let others do it for you.
I've been forming my opinion on Emil and his dogshit writing since FO3, after he complained that players kept destroying his carefully-laid narratives and resolved to just give players the simplest, most dishwater-dull shit He could. Fuck Emil, and fuck anyone who tries to convince me against my own eyes.
@@chesterstevens8870 idk where you got that idea 😭
@@disconcerningcitizen2224
Except that you know I'm right and are just gaslighting me. Emil Pagliarilo bemoaned how players would just take his lore, rip the pages out, and make paper airplanes out of it: that's why he resolved to only write the most basic, dishwater-dull crap he could pass off as "lore" to support whatever sandboxy crap the devs had cooked up.
Josh Sawyer was the last, best hope of Fallout's chronology; Amazon and BGS dragged his work out back and put a bullet in its head out of spite. No amount of your Wormtongue nonsense will ever convince me otherwise.
I was pleasantly surprised. As I am not a gamer, I had no expectations.
I greatly enjoyed the first season of fallout. My wife found the written dialogue to be a bit... 'stupid'. So that's how my house splits on Fallout.
Your wife has wisdom.
Maximus is literally a sociopath and I can't stand him.
Maybe it was just me but i always saw the brotherhood of steel as a bunch of gatekeeping douches
What we seen was not the whole brotherhood but only one small base.
One thing I love about this series is that the humans have five fingers!
Even Warhammer 40k goes woke with female Adeptus Cstodes.... there's nothing sacred out there anymore. EVERYTHING HAS TO BE QUEER AND FEMALE.
Put a chick in it and make her gay! Make it lame!
"Put a chick in it and make it lame and gay"
.....AND LAME!
Dammit. Beat me to it@@spiderjeranimo4992
And Trans too
I'm not a gamer but loved it. Especially loved Rappaport getting offended by a mutant bear 😂
Love the show, agree on all point you brought up. I also did not connect with Maximus's character it felt not very believable at times.
The art direction of the show is outstanding and lots of details from the game are a joy. 10/10 especially in light of the crap we usually get.
My favorite line of the episodes I’ve seen this far, and I don’t expect any lines will top it:
“The wasteland has its own golden rule. Thou shalt get sidetracked by bullsh*t every godd**n time!”
It’s so well integrated in the scene and so true to playing the game.
Maximus and Moldaver are both portrayed by people who cannot act. Moldaver's ending was flat as hell.
The ending was bad.
Was it ever explained how both Hank, Moldaver and Betty all lived for 200+ years?
Weirdly I didn’t think she was bad… what didn’t you like specifically about her role at the end?
@@heroineburghHank was frozen in a vault 31 cryo pod. How Moldaver survived is never explained but I assume she had access to her own cryo pod.
@@MurderMostFowl She's dying and couldn't reflect that in the way she delivered her dialogue. Ragged, labored breathing. Little gasps. Something was needed there.
As a fan of the games , for me , it was perfect. They got the dark humour and ambience of the world spot on.
As I said on his other video I've been playing Fallout since the first game was released. I have a lot of gripes about the show, some big, some small and nit-picky but over all I liked it. It looks like Ella Purnell is going to be the face of the franchise now, which I am okay with. I appreciate that she took the time to play at least one of the games. It just shows you how having even a little respect for the source material will go a long way.
Halo, The Witcher, I'm lookin` at you two.
Purnell and Goggins were both excellent.
@@Warhaawk Enjoying both character portrayals from them, as well as Goggins' and Frances Turner's (Barb Howard) in the pre-war scenes. They work well together. =)
I liked it. Over all a pretty decent drama character arc. Good lore and building
Lucy is fun to watch. She's actually the kind of character I would make in the game. No girl boss detected...she's a vault dweller.
Maximus was terribly cringe.
Maximus is actually a non perfect character. He's extremely flawed and the cringe is warranted.
I agree. I think they set her up well. I HATED that actress in Army of the Dead (But I also HATED Army of the Dead) but she was great here. The character was shown to have developed skills from training. She was the daughter of a respected leader, and so learned diplomacy skills, that weren't very hand, as it turned out. She's a good character. I hope they allow her to keep her character's growth in the 2nd season, and don't reset her.
Never played the game, but I had a blast bingeing this on Saturday!
Hilarious opening, I spit my coffee, very good.
Knew nothing about "Fallout" prior to the series. Loved it... (even my wife loved it). Just 'off center' enough to be unpredictably predictable-ish... loose ends tied up... lots of futute plot points dangled... beautifully filmed to have a video game vibe... tons of details. More please...
The soundtrack is wonderful too.
I loved it -never played the game and came to it just a dying man in a desert of shite.
And it was GOOD!
I haven’t seen better character driven drama since ‘Slow Horses’ - and that is high praise indeed.
Bravo!
I really liked the show!
Ahh begrudging approval.
Great review Chato.
For me the show improves a lot as it progresses, I wasn't convinced after the first 2 eps. Perhaps this is why they chose the dump rather than weekly.
Walton Goggins masterful performance is just the best, some pre-war scenes are convincing as proper drama.
I wonder how accessible it is for the non-gamers. I've been just as entertained watching the self appointed gatekeepers throw their toys about and berating all and sundry for not agreeing with them.
All told, I think it was good and would be surprised not to see another series (in 2 years time probably).
I've only played a bit of the third game, and I like how it's been translated onscreen.
I didn't hate the first two episodes. Actually, they had me eager to watch more episodes.
Never played the games, enjoyed the show, wished it was more than 8 episodes.
Never played the game. Binge-watched this thing over two days. Loved it.
Whatever valid criticisms there are, you can't deny that it's 100% a Fallout show. The look, the sounds, the characters, the types of stories - dark conspiracies by evil corporations, are all there.
I loved the use of the "Fallout" game music when Lucy held up the NCR flag. It should've been in the show all along. =)
@@jamesanthony8438 I THOUGHT I wanted that music all along. But I kinda liked that they saved it for a big moment later. Any Fallout fan would have sat up immediately and recognized that it was an important moment for the show, and that's clever.
The games didn't openly shill for Communism, though. That was the thing that annoyed me the most, in particular since the NCR was like 1950s America.
@@BlazingOwnager I think was more of a reaction to the '50s era McCarthyism that they were trying to portray since the Fallout world does seems to be a corporatocracy.
Anti-corporate rhetoric is a bit ironic from 2 of the biggest companies in the west: Amazon and Microsoft.
the look is fantastic. LOVE the vault and " filly" looked great
"Until the Earth is really nuked".......got real right at the end there. 🤔
I watched it right through yesterday and thought it was the best thing I’d watched for a long time. Definite Westworld reminders in there. But that’s a plus. Good characterisation. Convincing performances. Engaging storyline. I’m up for more
I played the original Fallout as an RPG and created a character with an Intelligence of 1 all the way through. I hope that they can capture that kind of character depth, for me it was and still is the best part of the Wasteland-Fallout series.
I hated episodes 1 and 2 but after talking to my son who said it was reasonably well received I went further and I am glad I did, I still have trouble with societies too stupid to survive so I had to turn that bit of my brain off. But as the episodes went on, I warmed up to it, looking forward to the last 2.
I was intrigued by the first episode. I’ll see how it goes.
The only thing that put me off was the whole pro-Communist message and how they tried to claim the rebooted NCR was Communist (they were a capitalistic democratic society, what made them unique in FO)
they let Cooper get in the truth when he said it beats everyone ending up in bread lines
That's what has kept me from engaging when considering the long line of butchered IPs in recent years. The show description vomits up front "it's a story about haves and have-nots" which is typical marxist language.
They were called commies because they hated corporations. She wanted a free market, so her cold fusion wouldn't have been bought and buried by vault tech so they could protect their dooms day intrests.
@@rucker69 Those sorts of stories don't have to. You can critique out of control corporatism and capitalism (See: Robocop) without going full Communist. Here, they literally do that.
Did I miss the communism? Or are you talking about that one line from Moldaver to Cooper Howard?
I must have missed where they said the NCR is communist now.
That was a glowing review. Almost makes me want to play the games in retro.
I was really surprised by the hacking of the overseer's terminal later in the season. It was identical to how players hack terminals in Fallout 4. It happens really quick though, i wonder how many people noticed.
Thanks for the review Paul. I hadn't gotten around to watching it yet, but I'll be checking out the series now.
Could they have actually got something... right?!
I remain suspicious.
It really depends on how much of an OG Fallout fan you are, in my experience. The normies in the house found it to be mostly entertaining, but with some dull spots and iffy writing that was nonsensical at times. But okay, 5-6 out of ten with the brain switched off.
For me, a fan of the series since the first 97 game, it was pure torture other than the visual design, set dressing, and mostly good acting from the leads. 2 out of 10 from me personally.
@@BobSmith-kk4kp See I don't have a problem with people unfamiliar with Fallout enjoying it. What I DO have a problem with is Todd preaching to all the world it's canon. That's lumping two vastly different audiences with each other and expecting everything to go peachy.
@@RedStar441 Agreed. The director even came out and said it was not for fans, and he was not lying - it is not. My biggest issue is people claiming to be serious Fallout fans saying that it is 'great' and 'faithful', when it is neither.
And Todd calling it canon is quite rich, when he and Hines have destroyed the series canon for years and mocked people for caring when they did.
Most of these people do not seem to understand what canon really is, and who decides what is and is not . Lucas and Disney never understood either, and it has made their work worse and worse over the years.
Of you're a fallout fan, and can tolerate one tranny... you'll love it.
@@BobSmith-kk4kp I've been a fan of Fallout since 98, in my experience the ones that hate the show are tourists determined to hate the show. They've yet to give a good reason for their claims of 'ReTcOn' that isn't hilariously easy to explain away.
Beware people who just peruse the wiki then claim to be big fans of the lore.
The first 3/4 of season one of Westworld was promising, then it just rapidly turned to rust and disintegrated. And, Walton Goggins...
Never played the games. Don't know the lore. I've watched the entire series and still don't know what's going on. And I'm glued. I can't get enough.
Check out the games. They're all super cheap right now. FO1 & 2 are amazing in a different kind of way but if you're just jumping in, honestly, start with 4. It's the most modern even though I think FO2 is the best.
You can also just watch gameplay videos, if you'd rather not play the game yourself. =^[.]^=
@@BlazingOwnager : 3's more the distilled feel that people are bemoaning it didn't follow. I'm guessing they followed 4's rough lead in the design of the show from the sounds of things. 4 was adjusted to make it fit more casual gamers.
@@BlazingOwnager I would have recommended he jump in at any game EXCEPT Fallout 4. 1, 2, 3, and New Vegas are all fantastic entry points.
I like that they went out of their way to show the thumbs up vault poster that said " Don't Lose Your Head 👍" 🤣🤣
Todd’s involvement stopped when they spelled his name right on the check.
Probably a good thing.
@@Silenthero66 Definitely a good thing.
It was great to see Vault Boy turn into a villian and then go on a kind of redemption path.
I give it a good, solid “okay.”
😉😂
That's almost "a splendid 'meh'."
Best genre entertainment I’ve seen since Picard S3.
The series needed a CBBE body and armor mod... other than that, thumbs up...
Chemical butt butt energy?
I stopped gaming before the Fallout games shipped. I truly missed out. I loved the show and I went and pulled the trigger on Fallout 4 for $5 on Steam, installed the high resolution textures and got it going in 4K UHD on an Nvidia RTX-4090 and it's glorious! I am completely hooked.
Thanks for the vidja.
I am so very, very pleased to hear that whatever reservations you had to your green-light video the series managed to come through in the end.
I waited until I got enough reviews to convince me that I would not just be hate-watching another show. I do not have enough time for that anymore.
ALL I ASK is to be entertained by the idiot-box.... THAT IS ALL. (Well... to start at least...)
I played Wasteland and then when they came out the Fallout series. All of them. This is distinct from them but I am not going to whine or get angry because different is not bad per se.
I liked this adaptation and as you point out they got some REALLY good talent and the script was not too shabby. I did enjoy Westworld the first season but fellout (hah) from the rest of the series when they got brain-worms or whatever happened to the writers. Pleasantly surprised and looking forward to more seasons.
Peaceful Skies.
I'm glad you ended up enjoying the show. I haven't played the games, so I had none of the baggage, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. The worldbuilding is soectacular and, as you say, the potential for great stories is endless.
I actually liked it.
It wasnt inkeeping with the lore but it was fairly decent.
Thanks for your review Chato. I'll have to admit that I loved the thumbnail for this video! 🤣😂
"...'til when the Earth is really nuked."
So, next week?
Yeah what Thaddeus chose to do with Dogmeat, that was inexcusable.
There absolutely is DEI in the show, but it’s implemented like it was back in days, organically and never at the cost of the story and characters…
Lucy is likeable and believable and all characters had smart intelligent writing. The show actually revived my love for fallout and I’ve been on a lore and gaming binge since I’ve finished the show.
And there’s no “retconning” that’s just people that haven’t paid attention to what is said in the show. New Vegas canon is fine. Shady sands got nuked later than 2277, mostly likely 2284. We’re also talking about information written on a whiteboard by characters in-universe not the show runner telling us…
They moved Shady Sands to the Bone Yard, so Yeah, no retconning there.
It brings back memories of a similar series with a western science fiction look:
Firefly / Serenity.
It's a shame that this series was never continued.
On the plus side, there's always anime. Starting to just watch that instead.
I've been there for about 5 years now. Its so much better.
Ok I have to give a watch now. Chato AND The Critcal Drinker say it's good!
After viewing Episode 1, my husband and I questioned why we ever let our kids play the Fallout games as teenagers. Lots of gore in the fight scenes!
5:26 But they ended fine!? I played many gory and inproparate games as kid and teenager, ended up just fine! I don't thing parents should ban kids from playing such games, maybe give guidance like - hey that's not good beating up innocent bystanders in something like Grand Theft Auto etc
@@mikcnmvedmsfonoteka We did that when the kids were playing Simpsons Road Rage, pointing out that no, you can NOT drive your car on the sidewalk and knock people over, etc..
They will be playing GTA.
Well the game even comes with a bloody mess perk which makes your enemies even bloodier in combat.
There was only one “they/them“ character. Dane is the bone thrown to the DEI mob. Hopefully, that will be kept at a bare minimum.