Our Tomato Trellising Methods - How to Prune Single Stem Tomatoes
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- In this episode we will discuss our 2 methods of choice when it comes to trellising tomatoes, identifying tomato suckers, and how we prune tomatoes to single stem them. We will also talk about pruning vs. no pruning and the pros and cons of each.
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This single stem thing works! This has increased my tomato yield twofold! It's September 2nd, and my plants are covered in large tomatoes with no signs of blight. Unbelievable.
Thanks so much!!
"I'm aloud to change my choice" That's right! Gardening is about experimentation and adaptation to conditions. Appreciate the video.
I learn something new with each video! My gardening situation could not be more different. I'm living in NYC with a rooftop garden that poses its own unique challenges. However I always learn something useful to add to my gardening knowledge each time I watch a video by MI Gardener! Keep up the good work. Thanks!
"Simple," but SO helpful! I'm an experienced ornamental Master Gardener who's beginning her first foray into vegetables. Thanks!
This year I’m trellising as much as I can, using found resources-I’m super happy you’re teaching me how to trellis tomatoes!
Luke, thank you so much! I really enjoy your videos. Even though I have gardener on and off for years, I always learn something from you. I appreciate the time and information you give viewers like me!
Just started my first garden and your videos are EXACTLY what I need. Thanks for the info!
how about a comparison video at harvest time to show the fruit from trellis weave, free range tomatoes to your single stemmed larger tomatoes?? Could be interesting.
I love cordoning my indeterminate tomatoes for exactly the reason you said, I can grow more varieties in less space. I also like the way it looks!
Great information! I grew a tomato bush last year, it was so hard to keep it upright & pick the tomatoes
Thanks for the video, I am new to the high density gardening and learned a lot from all of your videos. Our family love the amount of food we are getting. Grow big or go home...
Actually starts talking about single stemming at 5:54 --- FYI.
All your videos are so useful and engaging. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Awesome stuff Luke. Thanks for the tips!
So excited to see you doing this. I'm growing my tomatoes up a string trellis for the first time. I wanted more varieties and have a limited space. Interested to see how they do single stemmed!
First time gardening vegetables here, im starting with cucumber, tomatoes and pepper. Im thinking of starting my tomatoes on a single stem as well to manage them better, well see how that goes. Great vids, thanks for sharing
I've seen the single stemming technique before and it does allow more plants in less space, but I use a little different approach. I put some cattle fencing along the long side of my garden beds (6 ft tall fencing) to train the tomato vines up the fencing. i give each plant 2 square feet, and I prune them to 4 main vines and remove any suckers from those vines. they grow up the fence which supports the plants and all the weight of the fruit, and i've never had better success with tomatoes than this method! with the tomatoes only on the east side and north of my beds (beds 8x3 and I get 5 tomato plants (10 sq feet total) in along that fence), i can use the space in front of them to grow carrots, beets, anything that is shorter and is a good companion plant for tomatoes in the remaining 14 square feet.
I cannot wait to try this growing method! Looks like I can even plant the plants closer together (12" apart?) Hopefully I can plant 6 plants in my 4x4 ft beds.
I do sq ft gardening and I think in 4x4 bed you can do 16 tomato plants. One plant per sq ft. Works great!
Great video. Thanks for the tips. Now it's time to get busy. My tomato plants are flopping over an definitely needing some support! Also I'm going to be watching your weaving video because that term you used is a new one to me. (I garden in Manitoba, Canada)
Love the videos. Keep them coming!
I’d like to see video on stake install. How far deep etc..
That would depend on your soil condition and how tall the variety grows. I bang mine in until I am sure it will not lean or fall over, generally about 8-10 inches.
Wow! I didn't know about furring strips! Thank you.
Nothing wrong with trying different methods, especially if they both work :-)
I would put the wood strips further along the sides of the bed not only can u secure them down there so they don't lean but mostly because you would guide the tomatoes to grow a bit further out from each other being less crowded with better air flow and sun exposure....
This looks to be a good way to grow tall tomatoes.. Can't wait to see the larger fruiting happening. I don't grow very large tomatoes because most of the time it takes way to long for it to fried and ripen. So I grow early boy and girl, husky cherry tomatoes and sweet 100. I think I may have gotten another variety this year/ orange and small but sweeetttttt.. yum. I put tall cages around my plants and if necessary tall stakes if the get to tall. I cut away large long leaves to have good air flow and to allow the stems to move in the wind to pollinate - good luck trying this and can't wait to see what you do next!
Hi Mid .. this is good video for tomatos trellising .. I liked it .. thanks
Wish you had actually showed how you installed the furring strips. How do you get them to stay upright?
I kept waiting for him to address this as well. Sadly, it does not appear he replies to comments.
It’s in another tomato video. He literally just hammers them into the ground.
ua-cam.com/video/MO5D1Y3sBoI/v-deo.html additional video showing this
Hammering them in, just how they are? No trying to make the bottom pointy?
getting ready to go out and do mine
don't take it personal ....butr you 're not a rookie ...you're just a nerd on agricultural skills. i apppreciate your efforts.
Say that 10 times fast, eh? Lol. Another great video Luke, excellent information!
Great stuff, Luke. Thank you!
Thanks for the new info! I love your wood chip paths. I did the same thing. New sub from Spokane WA.
You remind me of 'Brains' from 'Thunderbirds'. Similar delivery, and great stuff.
Have a sub mate ☺
Have you ever grown sugar snap peas... I don't have a big yard so I'm also going to have to grow them in a 5 gallon bucket...
Thank you in advance!
I would put the wood strips further along the sides of the bed not only can u secure them down there so they don't lean but mostly because you would guide the tomatoes to grow a bit further out from each other being less crowded with better air flow and sun exposure....
Fantastic tips. Thanks!
@MiGardener you guys give great info, thank you!
Actual instruction at 8:45
Trellising style, Its all about context!
Here in the sub-tropics of Brisbane Australia we can grow tomatoes all year round although I get the best yield and taste if I grow from late winter through Spring. I don't bother to grow in the heat of Summer as we get fruit fly and I would have to cover the fruit so it didn't get stung. I started growing on a single stem (sometimes on two stems) last year and my yield has skyrocketed.
The furring strips you can get at Home Depot, are they already cut in order to stake them into the ground or do you have to ask them to cut in order to drive it to the ground?
This is an off-the-wall question on an old video, but I'm curious how you get a 10 foot firing strip (1x2) in the ground 2 feet without standing on a 10 foot ladder with a hammer? Inquiring minds would like to know, since I want to try this system this year.
METHOD 1: 1. Dig hole with post hole digger several feet deep. 2. Insert stake. 3. Throw dirt into hole. 4. Take a separate strip and tamp earth around stake.
METHOD 2: 1. stand on a ladder and pound a stake into the ground. 2. Using a power screwdriver, screw another stake onto the stake in the ground, extending the upward reach of the spliced stakes. 3. Repeat step 2 for as high as you want the stakes to go.
wait til you've had a bunch of rain?
I am interested in knowing more about single stemming tomatoes. I am using the square-foot gardening method and would like further information. You showed removing the stems on either side of the main stem up to the buds. You did the same thing on the side shoot and then topped it. But as you went further up the main stem, you only talked about the suckers. My question is how do you know when to remove stems and not remove? Shouldn't the other stems have been removed too that were below the other buds? If you keep removing stems with leaves where will the plant get its energy to put into the fruit? I look forward to reading your answers to those two questions.
How does that method of single stemming work in a high wind location? I tried the lowered and lean method last year pruning to a single leader but I suffered many broken growth point.
ty for sharing.
How old do your tomato plants have to be before you can use this method on them? When the first flower buds appear?
How do you get the stakes to stay in the ground and not fall as the tomato grows up it and puts weight on the stake?
Good stuff! One question; If you pluck off all the shoots between the main stem & leaves, how do you get any tomatoes?
Useful to know, for if I grow tomatoes.
Andrew Lockwood you might get a bigger main kolas, but you'd likely have a higher total yield letting them bush
Depends on the type.
hey luke im in south texas was wondering if I could dedicate one of my beds to you. Our weather is really hot 100's all next week so if there is anything you have always wanted to grow in this type of weather i can test stuff out for you. its an old abandoned empty trailer home (unlivable) but i got room to plant.
I did some of that but I rooted the sucker's and got more plants. Less seeds to buy.
Just asked myself what am I going to do when they reach out the top of the 4foot cage??? thanks for the help.
How far down do those strips go? It looks like they would eventually fall over from the weight. Would you tie two of them together at the top forming a sorta teepee type support?
They are pushed into the ground more than a foot. They hold no problem under even 50+ pounds of tomatoes.
I always single stem and use tomato spools from greenhouse supply. Plastic ring clips snap onto the string to support the single stem and are use at every group of fruit. You can lower the string as the plants grow since they fruit from the bottom up.
I don't have much use for indeterminate plants or slicers, but Ace 55 is a very tasty tomato.
I've been trying to get an answer to this and hope you can help. If I single sten a tomato plant will tomatoes continue to grow once I have picked off the original tomatoes or do I need a sucker to grow new flowers that will grow into tomatoes? If I don't let suckers grow and pick the tomatoes off the plant is it essentially done and I might as well compost the plant?
How do you know what is a determinate and indeterminate variety of tomatoes?
MI gardener. I live in southern MI. We have some cold nights this week. I am trying used milk jugs filled with water at the based of my tomatoes to assist with heating them during the night. I think you might have heard of this before. Do you have any other economical methods for assisting our plants in this ever changing Michigan weather? Just trying to keep those nightshade plants healthy.
Hey there! I am trying the single stem method for my tomatoes this year. I have a really small garden.
My question is, do you have to wait until the plants have a bloom grouping before you start pruning?
I wanted to train my tomatoes up their supports from the beginning so I have already pruned back some of the lower leaves and tied the main stem to the supports. Is this ok to do it this way?
I don't understand why to remove side stems lower than the first set of fruit. Could you please help me understand. My first set of fruit is12" up the main stem.
I keep trying to memorize. Indeterminate will keep growing and Determinate are all at once?
Just think of determinate as decided on a size and indeterminate as undecided on a size.
cool, thanks!
How do you plant suckers to produce née plants Luke
Hi, can you tell me the size of your raised box? Also how far apart are your planting the tomatoes plants, thanks
Can you single stem grape or cherry tomatoes?
How do the 8ft stakes hold up if you have a tall tomato plant and if you get high winds, I usually get 1-4 days of high winds here in Utah and I worry the stakes will get blown over.
Can I use pieces of bamboo for the tomatoes to climb up?
For sure, any stick. I used old broken broom sticks last summer as that's all I had and could afford 😄
MIgardener: Hey Luke, I am growing indeterminate heirloom tomatoes indoors (San Marzano and Principle Borghese) in Kratky hydroponic buckets...would you recommend single-stemming those, or letting them bush out? I can't let them grow too high or they will hit the lights; they are in a shower and ceiling is only 8'.
I didnt see any cages on your tomatoes i have some pretty large tomatoes like the pink brandywine. Do recommend using a cage, not the cheap ones you use for your onions, a better quality one, or would just staking and single stemming be fine?
How tall and what size width are the sticks?
He talks to much but explains clearly. Don t want entertainment just methods. thanks for the information.
I'm planning my 2018 garden and bought indeterminate tomato varieties. I'm planning on using this method. How much space between plants should I leave for most tomatoes if using this method?
Luke Baker I have the same question!
From India, I have planted lemon
Tree, what fertilisers should I give?
I think single stemming works better in the south where we can get blight really bad due to humidity
Show all the methods and let people decide. I think you should do one raised bed of back to Eden method to show. You said you get slugs when you tried back to Eden yet I live close to you doing back to Eden method and have had zero slug damage so not sure why I'm not and you said you had...
how do you know that a sucker wont turn into flowers? if you just want stem and leaf then where do flowers come from??
Can you use these furring strips to single stem cucumbers also?
At what point do you quit taking off branches and let the suckers form fruit stems?
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Was wondering if you have smaller stakes what to do when they get to big and start to bend down my stakes are only 6 foot - the amount in soil Thanks any info
Hey Luke, I'm learning a ton from you! Thanks so much. Already signed up, subscribed and placed my first order on your online store. Quick question: where do you get your stakes that are not treated with toxic chemicals? (I live in NJ) Thanks a lot for all the knowledge you share with us, for the enthusiasm and also for making it so bite size and easy to follow, digest and implement. Truly a joy to learn from you!
how deep into the soil are the stakes? Did you start with 10 ft stakes and hammer them 2 feet down?
Do you have any thoughts or experience on single stem string grown tomatos vs furring stip method?
So, what happens when the stem reaches the top of the post? Does it get trimmed back, or do you let it fall over? I appreciate your videos! :)
If it's close enough to the end of the year that any tomatoes or puts on from new flowers will never mature then you can snip off the growing end or just let it flop over. Mine will get a couple feet higher than the support then slump over and if they don't pinch themselves off they will climb back up again then fall over again.
How big is the plant when you start single-stem pruning it?
Hey Migardener, I want to grow tomatoes and have to create my own soil from scratch in my garden bed. Will 1 part topsoil, 1 part peat moss, and one part compost work alright?
Peter D I'd add some perlite and or playsand for better drainage
Now you spark a question. I live in Northern Virginia, and unfortunately I rent my home so I have to abide by the wishes of my landlady. She will not allow me to have an inground Ggarden, not even raised beds. Being the determined woman that I am, I have been attempting to do all of my gardening in 5 gallon buckets. Which brings me to my question. Which method should I use in growing my tomatoes in these five gallon buckets?
I don't know if you'll see my response after waiting so long for one, but you'd want to go and look at the videos on the Rusted (not rustic) Garden channel. The host Gary on that channel demonstrates how to grow stuff in many different styles including 5 gallon buckets. He also seems to provide more information in less time than Luke.
Hello!
I bought my tomato seeds from you this year and am wondering how to tell if I bought indeterminate or determinate varieties. Is it written on the package somewhere?
You can either Google the variety or go to the tomatos page on migardiner amd it will say under the seed count.
So with the single stem method, I can fit more tomato plants in the bed?
How to tell the difference between 'determinate' and 'indeterminate' tomato plants?
Mary Brouillette on the label
Can this (single stemming) be done with indeterminate cherry tomato plants? I have yellow pear, sweetie, and black cherry varieties.
Helena Byers you could do this with indeterminate cherries, but you'd have increased yields letting them go a bit.
Hi
Do you single stem the Orange Roussolini?
We are yes.
MIgardener | Simple Organic Gardening & Sustainable Living great I did mine last week and wasn't sure if I should of lol
I noticed that you have planted marigolds in the tomato beds. Other than discouraging deer, does it serve another purpose?
Betharoot marigolds will help prevent root nock nematodes as well as insects that would otherwise get your fruit
What sizes are the furring strips?
I'm not sure which one to buy.
8 ft. high.
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Someone please explain to me when I add the steak, before I plant when the steak is actually needed to hold up the plant idk
I always add the stake at planting and about 4 inches from the plant. That way you are not disturbing a newly developed root system.
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8’ furring strips? Is that what you call them? I don’t want to go to the hardware store & have them laugh at me?! 😂
seems like you are taking out potential fruit-bearing stems?
if you double stem you can have same amount of fruit with only half the plants..
I often find free strings and save my money = $$$