This was a surprisingly good video, thanks to great commentary and EQ graphs. I would love to see this revisited with the new DiMarzio Mirage pickups in the mix (the newest Jake Bowen model, naturally)
I must have spent 20 minutes jumping from each pickup in the ABCD comparison. I have a JBM27 with the Titans I picked up last year that completely shattered my inner die hard schecter guy mind set. Mishas demo of the juggernaughts make them sound like the best pickup I could ever want. So I have been gunning for them for a long time. This demo really makes me feel like Rags - Titans - THEN juggs, which makes me no longer want juggs haha! I have two guitars I am lookin to swap pickups in and this helped me settle of rags so thank you for your hard work!
Great job reviewing them without making any of them sound unappealing. I'm really considering the AO set for my 7 string now because I like that deathcore sound. I also, have the Titans in a 6-string and they sound amazing too.
@gilernt haven't tried marks newer ones. You like em? I ordered an Ibanez JBM 10FX today. It comes with Jakes Titans, so..... I'm def excited to get it.
I don't do djent. And tonally for the gain tone I generally use in a 6 string. The rags probably would be my choice. I generally hover around drop c# tuning wise. And I like a bit of a fat bottom end tonally. I haven't played much 7 string so I don't have as firm an opinion there. I tend to like ambient metal like distant dream on 7s. So the juggernauts probably would get the nod there simply because of their versatility and voicing.
I liked the Juggernauts the most in this comparison, the fact they're a mixed magnet set (specifically the bridge being mixed magnet alone) really sets them apart. The Ragnarok is a nice contrast but not too radical, sounds huge without sacrificing the clarity. I liked the Titan and the Alpha Omega in this comparison the least, yet I tried the Alpha Omega IRL and liked them. So my order: Juggernaut and Ragnarok tied, then Alpha Omega and then Titan
Thanks for doing this video. I have been playing guitar for a LONG time and have been on a tone quest for most of it. I got the amp sound but need neck, middle and bridge pickups to top it off. I want to replace the original pickups in my 93 Ibanez RG470.
We’ll done! I have all 3 guitars. I find they are all great, however Marks SD pickups sound pokey on their own but in a mix they sound great. It’s definitely something you will notice when practicing alone.
man, great video with savage playing and editing. I just wondering that which of these can reach the tone from the song passenger, juggernaut i guess？anyway, subscribed, really looking forward for ur new videos.
Dude this is an excellent comparison. I think what is missing in a lot of comparisons is the description of how it feels in terms of dynamics and compression. As someone who loves the compression of EMGs, that kind of feedback is super helpful. Still a little skeptical since they're all in different guitars, though. Im surprised at all the love for the Juggs... they're kinda thin and that cocked wah spike in the high mids is kind of grating to me. Maybe Im sensitive to it because Im tired of my Fluence Moderns, though. The Juggs sound similar to that to me. I think I'd take the Titans and Rags first, then the Omega and then the Juggernauts. Titan > Ragnarok > Omega > Juggernauts
Frankly most of the time when you record you're going to end up cutting out the bass anyway. Most newbies think that the jam/practice tone is the same as the recording tone. What they don't realize is that what they're hearing on a song is the bass and the guitar together.
Hey what's man Thanks for make this video, helped me a lot to take a decision before to buy my new set of pickups. I'm going for the titans 😎 My reasons, good sound in a good price 🙂
I'd probably go for the Juggernauts in the Bridge and Ragnarocks in Neck. I'd use the Juggernauts for the Distorted tunes and the Ragnarocks for cleans. And they'd suit my Invective :P. But I also play in open B and have quite a diverse taste in what I play. Congratulations on creating a video that's concise yet detailed as hell. There's no bloat and I love that!!.
i got the juggernauts, the omega, the Titan and the custom sh5, for me, the best modern metal pickup ever its the Titans, sooo tight, articulated but chunky for old metal too, its the perfect pickup ever, then the omega, then the sh5 and last the juggernauts (sounds amazing but its so expensive for what it gives to you)
I also went for the Juggernauts. Never looked back. If they are to harsh for you, just roll back the tone a tad. Also in a parallel configuration the two coils sound just phenomenal. Similar to a beefy strat sound, but with all the benefits of noise cancelling. :)
eBay from a seller: "NextAcoustics" about 5 years ago now. They are no longer selling. At the time it was like $30 and I bought 2 kits with bass traps for the corners.
In personal experience, Jugg, Titan, A/O, Rag for me. The Juggernaut is just the nicest combination of clarity and overall tonal balance, with the Titan very close behind (hardly at all). The A/O is great for a more snarling midrange and brutal tremolo picking haunted shores type of riffs, and they are still far and away good enough that I don't need to swap them out of the SE Holcomb models to get a good sound. The Rags, in my experience, were extremely dull sounding and had a really hairy bloom to chords which I was not a fan of whatsoever. They didn't have that special sauce that I usually love about BKPs.
@@diazzsama the only guitar I have at the moment that does not align properly is the SE Holcomb with the A/O set. It has a trembucker (53mm) string spacing and a regular 50mm pickup in the bridge by default which is kind of dumb, but the only strings out of alignment are the high A and E. Low side lines up. As for the others, I'd tried Juggernauts and Ragnaroks in the same guitar a couple years ago (Jackson HT6) which has since been sold and replaced with a mayones duvell 6, which also has juggernauts now. I still have my titans but they aren't actively installed in a guitar at the moment.
@@thedudeofficial69 Yeah that's weird. Idk why PRS uses regular spacing Omega instead of Trembucker version on their SE Holcomb. I saw Seymour Duncan's websites and they sell the trembucker version. I was gonna get the Alpha-Omega set for my Washburn Solar Evertune since so many people sell Used Alpha Omega sets for really cheap here, but the string spacing on the Omega really annoys me.
@@diazzsama yeah, unfortunately the entire used market of A/O sets is all ones people pulled out of their SEs. I'd highly recommend the titan (around $90 each for basic looking ones from dimarzio's website) if you want the "periphery" sound. Best relative price to performance out of these 4 imo. I love BKPs (including other sets like the aftermath, and nailbomb, which I also use), but it's very hard to justify the price considering there are options that get 95% of the way there for much less. Also the DiMarzio d-activator can be good. The titan is kind of a dialed back version of it (less output, less presence basically).
Really? I mean they're definitely similar, but if you cant hear the honk the juggs have compared to say the Omega (B vs D) then I dont know what to tell you. It's not huge, but I can totally hear a difference and Im usually the first one to say these differences dont matter and are insignificant.
You are comparing 4 guitars. And not 4 pickups. This is a huge difference and basically makes this video redundant if you are looking for a new set of pickups
Not really. The type of wood and all that has almost no effect on what it will sound like in a high gain setting. Under high gain it’s all about output levels and what frequency range that output of the pickup accentuates. Now if we’re talking about clean tones or tones at the edge of breakup then that matters more. But provided the source (amp) is the same there is no noticeable audible difference from one guitar to another even if you put the same exact pickups in multiple guitars in a high gain setting. Especially when you’re talking about the tone in a mix.
@@jedivolt nah, I’m an audio engineer and I primarily work with metal music. A distorted channel in an amp is nothing more than a specifically tuned limiter. What a limiter does is limit the amount of signal that’s able to pass through. At a certain point if the signal will exceed the parameters of the limiter and since a limiter doesn’t fluctuate like a compressor, it cuts the top of the waveform off making the end signal incomplete waveforms thus creating the sound we call distortion. So all of the variations in waveform peaks that are introduced by the vibrations that occur in the material the guitar is made of is literally cut off and does not make it to the end of the amps internal signal chain that then goes to the speaker. The level of saturation of distortion (typically adjusted by the gain knob) is literally how open the limiter is (no/low gain) or how closed the limiter is (medium/high gain). The higher the gain, the more the signal is limited, more of the wave form is cut off, the more distortion you get. And in high gain settings the only tonal difference you will hear between guitars is the difference in how much signal is being fed into the amp (high output/low output). A way to test this is to take two guitars, one set of pickups, get a high gain setting for the amp, record one guitar, then put those same pickups in the second guitar and record it without adjusting the amp settings then get someone to play both recordings back to back without you knowing which track belonged to which guitar. There will be no audible difference. Spectre Sounds Studios did this very experiment on his UA-cam channel if you don’t want to do it yourself and you need an example. Again, clean tones or low gain tones is an entirely different story because the signal is not being limited. So those variations in the signal that are caused by the different types of materials in the guitar comes through. But in high gain settings, the only tonal shifts that are audible, are when you change output level of the pickups and the speakers themselves.
DiMarzio TITANS + 1:27 3:34 radio clean 4:42 clean neck 5:24 split coils 5:29 Leads 6:22
BareKnuckle JUGGERNAUTS + 2:09 3:39 4:46 5:34 5:39 6:28
BareKnuckle RAGNAROCK + 2:53 3:44 4:51 5:43 5:47 6:34
Seymour Duncan ALPHA OMEGA + 3:19 3:49 4:56 5:51 5:56 6:40
i am like them all equally. i am shall use them all in a single guitar. Oops! i could only fit five. oh well.
I'd agree on that order: Juggs - Titans - Rags - A&O
Great video! Really shows the differences between the pickups in a useful context. Keep it up
This was a surprisingly good video, thanks to great commentary and EQ graphs. I would love to see this revisited with the new DiMarzio Mirage pickups in the mix (the newest Jake Bowen model, naturally)
I actually was surprised to pick Dimazio Titans as #1, then Ragnarok. Liked # 3.
Titans suck in real life.
I think you deserve 1 million + of subscribers man!
Thank you 1 million + times!
I must have spent 20 minutes jumping from each pickup in the ABCD comparison. I have a JBM27 with the Titans I picked up last year that completely shattered my inner die hard schecter guy mind set. Mishas demo of the juggernaughts make them sound like the best pickup I could ever want. So I have been gunning for them for a long time. This demo really makes me feel like Rags - Titans - THEN juggs, which makes me no longer want juggs haha! I have two guitars I am lookin to swap pickups in and this helped me settle of rags so thank you for your hard work!
the A&O set sounds so evil....
Great job on this comparison.
Great job reviewing them without making any of them sound unappealing. I'm really considering the AO set for my 7 string now because I like that deathcore sound. I also, have the Titans in a 6-string and they sound amazing too.
sweet! did you ever end up getting the AOs? im considering getting them for a 6 string build
@@gilernt I had them. They're just meh....the Fishman fluence moderns are better imo.
But boy, the titans are sick
@@williamdistasio9358 gotchu gotchu, i ended up going with the scarlet/scourge over AO. was def considering the titans tho, theyre sick ur right
@gilernt haven't tried marks newer ones. You like em?
I ordered an Ibanez JBM 10FX today. It comes with Jakes Titans, so..... I'm def excited to get it.
@@williamdistasio9358 i havent either, they've just been sitting uninstalled in my new body lol 💀 but that's dope, such a beautiful guitar man
This video is excellent. Thank you dude
I don't do djent. And tonally for the gain tone I generally use in a 6 string. The rags probably would be my choice. I generally hover around drop c# tuning wise. And I like a bit of a fat bottom end tonally. I haven't played much 7 string so I don't have as firm an opinion there. I tend to like ambient metal like distant dream on 7s. So the juggernauts probably would get the nod there simply because of their versatility and voicing.
I liked the Juggernauts the most in this comparison, the fact they're a mixed magnet set (specifically the bridge being mixed magnet alone) really sets them apart. The Ragnarok is a nice contrast but not too radical, sounds huge without sacrificing the clarity.
I liked the Titan and the Alpha Omega in this comparison the least, yet I tried the Alpha Omega IRL and liked them.
So my order: Juggernaut and Ragnarok tied, then Alpha Omega and then Titan
Thanks for doing this video. I have been playing guitar for a LONG time and have been on a tone quest for most of it. I got the amp sound but need neck, middle and bridge pickups to top it off. I want to replace the original pickups in my 93 Ibanez RG470.
We’ll done! I have all 3 guitars. I find they are all great, however Marks SD pickups sound pokey on their own but in a mix they sound great. It’s definitely something you will notice when practicing alone.
idk if it's just me but i've always loved mark's tones when playing alone, i just think they stand out so well
Hopefully buying my first 7 string soon and the pickups Periphery uses is what I waiti change the pickups out with. I'm just not sure which ones.
man, great video with savage playing and editing. I just wondering that which of these can reach the tone from the song passenger, juggernaut i guess？anyway, subscribed, really looking forward for ur new videos.
all of them if you want mine opinion.
Thank you so much for the kind words! For the song Passenger, your guess is my best guess as well. The Juggernauts would do very well with that sound.
@@TheBedroomGuitarist1 thanks for ur reply bro
@@zAvAvAz appreciated man
I decide based on the low mutes because that's the hardest sound to excel at. They are all good here but the Rags take it for me.
Dude this is an excellent comparison. I think what is missing in a lot of comparisons is the description of how it feels in terms of dynamics and compression. As someone who loves the compression of EMGs, that kind of feedback is super helpful. Still a little skeptical since they're all in different guitars, though.
Im surprised at all the love for the Juggs... they're kinda thin and that cocked wah spike in the high mids is kind of grating to me. Maybe Im sensitive to it because Im tired of my Fluence Moderns, though. The Juggs sound similar to that to me. I think I'd take the Titans and Rags first, then the Omega and then the Juggernauts. Titan > Ragnarok > Omega > Juggernauts
Frankly most of the time when you record you're going to end up cutting out the bass anyway. Most newbies think that the jam/practice tone is the same as the recording tone. What they don't realize is that what they're hearing on a song is the bass and the guitar together.
Hey what's man
Thanks for make this video, helped me a lot to take a decision before to buy my new set of pickups.
I'm going for the titans 😎
My reasons, good sound in a good price 🙂
I'd probably go for the Juggernauts in the Bridge and Ragnarocks in Neck. I'd use the Juggernauts for the Distorted tunes and the
Ragnarocks for cleans. And they'd suit my Invective :P. But I also play in open B and have quite a diverse taste in what I play. Congratulations on creating a video that's concise yet detailed as hell. There's no bloat and I love that!!.
Would like to know how’s the experience for juggernaut/Ragnarok combined
Love the shoot out! I think I have to give it to the Titans for this one.
i got the juggernauts, the omega, the Titan and the custom sh5, for me, the best modern metal pickup ever its the Titans, sooo tight, articulated but chunky for old metal too, its the perfect pickup ever, then the omega, then the sh5 and last the juggernauts (sounds amazing but its so expensive for what it gives to you)
I also went for the Juggernauts. Never looked back. If they are to harsh for you, just roll back the tone a tad.
Also in a parallel configuration the two coils sound just phenomenal. Similar to a beefy strat sound, but with all the benefits of noise cancelling. :)
Where did you get your foam in the background ?!?!
eBay from a seller: "NextAcoustics" about 5 years ago now. They are no longer selling. At the time it was like $30 and I bought 2 kits with bass traps for the corners.
Good video 👍 thanks mate!
God bless you sir
The juggernauts are the definition of definition 🐐
I shred. These super tight pickups are usually are not grate in that territory. I need some ripping for these.
The titans are savage!
Funny. For me I hear quite a good bunch of similarity between the Titans and Juggs as well as Rags and A&O
And what does your octopuss think?
In personal experience, Jugg, Titan, A/O, Rag for me. The Juggernaut is just the nicest combination of clarity and overall tonal balance, with the Titan very close behind (hardly at all). The A/O is great for a more snarling midrange and brutal tremolo picking haunted shores type of riffs, and they are still far and away good enough that I don't need to swap them out of the SE Holcomb models to get a good sound. The Rags, in my experience, were extremely dull sounding and had a really hairy bloom to chords which I was not a fan of whatsoever. They didn't have that special sauce that I usually love about BKPs.
do your bridge pickup's pole pieces align perfectly with the strings?
@@diazzsama the only guitar I have at the moment that does not align properly is the SE Holcomb with the A/O set. It has a trembucker (53mm) string spacing and a regular 50mm pickup in the bridge by default which is kind of dumb, but the only strings out of alignment are the high A and E. Low side lines up. As for the others, I'd tried Juggernauts and Ragnaroks in the same guitar a couple years ago (Jackson HT6) which has since been sold and replaced with a mayones duvell 6, which also has juggernauts now. I still have my titans but they aren't actively installed in a guitar at the moment.
@@thedudeofficial69 Yeah that's weird. Idk why PRS uses regular spacing Omega instead of Trembucker version on their SE Holcomb. I saw Seymour Duncan's websites and they sell the trembucker version.
I was gonna get the Alpha-Omega set for my Washburn Solar Evertune since so many people sell Used Alpha Omega sets for really cheap here, but the string spacing on the Omega really annoys me.
@@diazzsama yeah, unfortunately the entire used market of A/O sets is all ones people pulled out of their SEs. I'd highly recommend the titan (around $90 each for basic looking ones from dimarzio's website) if you want the "periphery" sound. Best relative price to performance out of these 4 imo. I love BKPs (including other sets like the aftermath, and nailbomb, which I also use), but it's very hard to justify the price considering there are options that get 95% of the way there for much less. Also the DiMarzio d-activator can be good. The titan is kind of a dialed back version of it (less output, less presence basically).
@@thedudeofficial69 thank you for the recommendation man
Great comparison. Juggernauts killed the others.
I've had both the rags and juggs. I think the rags are best for 6 string guitars and the juggs are better for 7 strings.
Why is that?
Why so?
Titans are my Jam
Can’t believe I’m the only one who thinks the ragnoroks killed the others
You’re not the only one - tbh I love the Rags
titan 7.
More like guitar comparison
AO > Titans > Ragnarok > Juggernaut
Please noone get titans they suck. Nice chug but flat af
They all sound the same.
Really? I mean they're definitely similar, but if you cant hear the honk the juggs have compared to say the Omega (B vs D) then I dont know what to tell you. It's not huge, but I can totally hear a difference and Im usually the first one to say these differences dont matter and are insignificant.
@@KyleP133 yeah, certainly not enough difference to warrant owning all of them though, just pick the one you like the look of the best lol
bruh everything you played sounds so offset and unclean i cant even
You are comparing 4 guitars. And not 4 pickups. This is a huge difference and basically makes this video redundant if you are looking for a new set of pickups
Not really. The type of wood and all that has almost no effect on what it will sound like in a high gain setting. Under high gain it’s all about output levels and what frequency range that output of the pickup accentuates. Now if we’re talking about clean tones or tones at the edge of breakup then that matters more. But provided the source (amp) is the same there is no noticeable audible difference from one guitar to another even if you put the same exact pickups in multiple guitars in a high gain setting. Especially when you’re talking about the tone in a mix.
@@myronmosley2167 oh wow you have to learn a lot about guitars
@@jedivolt No one has ever proved the existence of tonewood in electric guitars. You won't be any different
@@jedivolt nah, I’m an audio engineer and I primarily work with metal music. A distorted channel in an amp is nothing more than a specifically tuned limiter. What a limiter does is limit the amount of signal that’s able to pass through. At a certain point if the signal will exceed the parameters of the limiter and since a limiter doesn’t fluctuate like a compressor, it cuts the top of the waveform off making the end signal incomplete waveforms thus creating the sound we call distortion. So all of the variations in waveform peaks that are introduced by the vibrations that occur in the material the guitar is made of is literally cut off and does not make it to the end of the amps internal signal chain that then goes to the speaker. The level of saturation of distortion (typically adjusted by the gain knob) is literally how open the limiter is (no/low gain) or how closed the limiter is (medium/high gain). The higher the gain, the more the signal is limited, more of the wave form is cut off, the more distortion you get. And in high gain settings the only tonal difference you will hear between guitars is the difference in how much signal is being fed into the amp (high output/low output). A way to test this is to take two guitars, one set of pickups, get a high gain setting for the amp, record one guitar, then put those same pickups in the second guitar and record it without adjusting the amp settings then get someone to play both recordings back to back without you knowing which track belonged to which guitar. There will be no audible difference. Spectre Sounds Studios did this very experiment on his UA-cam channel if you don’t want to do it yourself and you need an example.
Again, clean tones or low gain tones is an entirely different story because the signal is not being limited. So those variations in the signal that are caused by the different types of materials in the guitar comes through. But in high gain settings, the only tonal shifts that are audible, are when you change output level of the pickups and the speakers themselves.
terrible video