Rockstar pastor is not an appropriate title in the body of Christ. So glad this guy was removed from a position of influence & power. Sadly, too many churches allow this behavior to infect their congregation.
Well, I'm glad he's still in the faith. Being a minister doesn't make you immune to needing the Lord on a personal level. The essence of our faith is to reach the lost, and sometimes, the lost is active in church. May Pastor Carl grow in intimacy with God because, as a child of God, he's enough, with or without title. May this resonate with every believer!
Christ is enough, not sinful humanity who deserves absolutely nothing good from God. Nobody is ENOUGH. This is completely man centered and not Christ exalting.
Too many pastors and “Christians” hiding their flaws pretending they don’t struggle at all, fighting silent battles and repressing trauma out of fear to truly heal - all I can say is, thanks Carl for providing a space to be human - in desperate need of his Grace and Mercy
That’s not being human that’s being selfish & weak. We call it carnality a “carnal christian.” Not practicing what you preach. One foot in the kingdom, one in the world. It’s lust of the eyes, lust of the flesh, and the pride of life…” comes not from The Father but of the world. [1John 2:16]. Matthew “If anyone causes one of these little ones-those who believe in me-to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
@@chaoticgood.. There is no objective reference to which we might point to determine when one human's so-called "normal" personality proceeds into narcissism. Every human naturally references himself, his own perceptions and feelings, as the final arbiter of reality. To relate to others, we naturally reference ourselves and then impose our sensibilities upon others, this, by blind faith that others are somehow like us. We are naturally selfish. And should we find ourselves in poor circumstances, we are naturally selfish to the most wicked and unnatural degree. Everything is about us, even when we make sacrifices for others. This is our natural state. We are all narcissists. Indeed, I find that those who leap to condemn others as narcissists, tend to be incorrigibly self-focused.
We have to be careful with passing judgment...because David was called a man after God's own heart and if you read the Bible, he did some very dark things. But repentance was key to his standing with God. Be well and be at peace.
The only difference between him and many of us is he got caught while the rest are still in the darkness of their own secrets. Pastor Lentz is free. Be careful how you judge lest you yourself fall.
I am not a rehab/addiction recovery expert but I do know that they tell you to own your stuff. He frequently uses verbiage like "When you are lying" instead of "When I was lying". Own it. "I was a sex addict". "I was a drug addict". According to the one woman he had an adulterous relationship with alcohol was part of his adulterous lifestyle experiences. Feels like there is still more healing and humility that needs to happen.
@@shaysceneftl That's just the ideological bs people like him know they have to say if they're ever going to get some naive and gullible folks to believe he's a changed man. He's nothing but a twisted lying wolf in teenage sheep's clothing.
I object to the part where he explains he was not responsible for his behaviour because he was broken or had addiction predilection. Very easy to turn to God with your brokenness, or addiction issue's. Hes always there to help. Maybe he's not owning his choices because, he made knowing it was sin, and not wanting to admit that. Such a terrible thing to do to a wife and family. Feel so bad for them. And he's not owning these things, that means he's not sincerely repenting of them with God.
The fact he still can't admit he's a sex addict is crazy and shows he's not even begun to come to terms with himself and the pain he's caused. Blaming his infidelity on past trauma is a cowardly copout.
That part. He's not an addict. He's just a communal narcissist. He is more interested with the notion to be seen as a good person rather than actually living his life as a good person. When he can't do that, then the deep work still is missing. He is still being enabled by the media. ABC must really be in need of content. Nothing to profile here. He doesn't need ABC news or the media to affirm his salvation. If he's a changed man then that should be enough for him. Why the broadcast? Why does he need more attention and for everyone to cheer? He should put his head down and go do the work as well as do the deep work so he isn't still addicted to attention. There are so many people out there that he can help.
Actually started a podcast, he has admitted to being a drug addict in the second episode so it’s possible he has admitted privately to her and will publicly
@@eoinMB3949To be fair, how can we properly judge someone when we don’t know their heart position. It’s kind of unfair to say you don’t believe his words when it’s possible that He truly means them.
We don’t know what he said to his wife or if he has admitted everything else. It’s not our job to throw stones at a brother in Christ. What I’m taking away from this that I’m just as guilty of my own sins and he just got caught being in the public eye how many of us are doing crap behind closed doors. We need to learn from this interview and not be holier than thou. This is why David would have rather been judged by God than the people.
It's not okay to commit adultery. It's a commandment of God which is fact. If a person sincerely repents then that sin is put into remission. But if the person doesn't repent, than that sin is on him. In order to repent, first you have to admit your sins. He had to because he got caught.
@@ENTERTAINMENT-th6cheh did you all the sudden forget David was also repentant because HE was caught by Nathan 🌚 please let’s stop being biblically illiterate 😭
@@ENTERTAINMENT-th6choh let me also remind you: the woman caught in adultery and the woman at the well… caught and they repeated. They didn’t confess their sins and repent out of their own selves. Please please again let’s not run with our own understandings and make a theology of that. It’s dangerous
@KrimsonRose87 My comments were based on statements made by God in Scripture. There was nothing interpreted. There was nothing misunderstood. We cannot add or take away from God's word. He judges by our desires, and our actions. He sees if our remorse is sincere or not.
He is blaming ‘trauma’ for his sinful choices. He was drunk with pride, fame and fortune. He needs to humble himself and accept the fact that pride comes before the fall. The only trauma in this scenario is the trauma he inflicted to his wife and children.
4:52 I remember watching this in 2014 and thinking it was fake. Lentz says, “I’m not that good” and he’s right-that’s why it came across as totally inauthentic.
ABC must really be in need of content. Nothing to profile here. He doesn't need ABC news or the media to affirm his salvation. If he's a changed man then that should be enough for him. Why the broadcast? Why does he need more attention and for everyone to cheer? He should put his head down and go do the work as well as do the deep work so he isn't still addicted to attention. There are so many people out there that he can help.
Yes. It should be a journey of redemption done between him and God but because he’s probably trying to jumpstart his “career “ and get back to the good money, he needs ABC. Otherwise, true change takes time and does not need all this broadcasting.
Interviewer: "How many affairs were there?" Lentz: "I'm not going to get into numbers, my kids have been through too much..." - he says this while doing a nationally broadcasted interview before millions! 🙄
Agreed! I so respect that they are sharing their story openly and publicly, even when they know people will judge and throw stones. God bless them. This will help lots of Christians with hidden sin.
@@HPCsma the non Christian public needs to see more Christians taking full accountability- they also need to see what it looks like when God redeems a broken story! We all need to see it!
He dresses that way to express his sexuality. Anyway, he’s going to make even more money with a new business model. He’s not a moral leader, but a social influencer using religion and celebrity to advance himself for money.
He dresses that way because that’s his style and makes him relatable to a certain demographic…my dad is a minister and dresses nice and is a handsome man…not a sin last time I checked!
7:15 “told her the truth… which wasn’t the whole truth…” - that would be accurate called a lie, not “the truth” …this is the mentality that needs transformation.
FULL STOP… this is a HORRIBLE way to show you’ve changed. This guy literally does everything to make sure he’s in the like light. Has nothing to do with Jesus
Tattoos are sketchy to begin with, but his say "make em pay?" That says it all. One man should never embody or be the focus of a ministry except Jesus. Obviously, he's paying more attention to his style than he knows about the Divine and spiritual realities. Can't even speak meaningfully about the Holy Spirit with Oprah.
@albinosh4dow it bad enough when kids scribble on the walls, but when grownups draw on their skin with permanent ink many who.later regret it, it's sketchy and resembles poor life choices of youth.
Your personal growth and relationship with God should not be announced to the world like “hey, look at me, I’m changing!” He’s desperate for attention. Keep a low profile in society and keep growing without having to announce it to the world. It’s like he wants to convince the world that he’s a good person. Worry about God knowing the truth of who you are and the rest will come naturally without having to scream it for others to notice.
Definitely agree. All the bible does say that the leader has to be of good reputation. In the eyes of men reputation is kinda important in leadership in even a practical way . I don't personally see this in such a harsh way cuz people are going to people at the end of the day and desire and sexual desire is a constant of the body so it's really only a matter of what the wife decides on this .
The reporter is awesome and I love that he's been interviewing Carl over a 10-year span so he can really ask the hard questions. I was very saddened when the news broke but not surprised. The guy is a sinner who was not surrounded by a team of people willing to reprove him and escalate when he went dark. Everyone can not handle fame, money, influence.
People out here judging Carl Lentz like even Jesus wouldn’t do. Yes sure, he broke his life but as Jesus said, “ I’m not here for the well but for the sick.” I hope he truly finds forgiveness and acceptance in Jesus.
It's insensitive and rude to say, "Why couldn’t you keep it in your pants" when Carl is opening up in such a genuine way. We shouldn't throw stones because we're all guilty of sin one way or another. I appaud his effort to rebuild his relationship with God, his wife, and family. Prayers for God's grace, mercy, and favor. 🙏
Do you think ABC reached out to him or he found a way to get an interview and back in the spotlight? Probably a mix of both. He could have not done this interview and just disappeared found the Lord but nah, gotta be in the spotlight.
He's been in Hollywood trying to get back in the limelight since he got canned in 2020. Trying to line up a reality show about people recovering after their downfalls.
Don't like his teaching but I pray that his marriages endure ,praying for his wife kids...and pray that he finds Jesus and develops a relation with God
He make himself a victim!!!! Well you reap what you sow!!! He was a celebrity pastor that what he likes to be address!!! Jesus said go and sin no more!!!!
I argued with this dude on Instagram ages ago. Called him out on wearing $1200 t-shirts from Rick Owens but somehow pretending to be a man of God LOL He couldn't even defend himself
when I think about these religious/cult types using their followers 10% tithing $$$ to fund their lifestyles ... and then have a multitude of affairs while preaching goodness from the pulpit... I vacillate between sheer disgust and anger
Not too shocking. Personalities are usally elected to high places ,not qualified people. As a young millennial working in corporate who would consider him extremely knowledgeable in theology and most biblical doctrine and church history. I see in both church and not that people doing the talking don't have much to say usally and they are not the strongest people among them. But unfortunately most people hearing are not really listening and so the most charismatic person is picked rather than the most qualified which is this not what the prophet said lest they hear with their ears and see with their eyes and come to me and be healed . But ofcourse we are like our ancestors although we are too stubborn to admit it because we call ourselves " Christian " as if that mean anything; we want a king and a prophet to go and hear for us because we haven't the dedication to to it ourselves. So God gave moses as mediator as it says and then the people wanted to see a leader ,so God gave Sual to show isreal thar it's dumb to want an imperfect man to lead u over God and warned ahead of time what he would do but God gave anyway. This is most people in church and as Solomon. (The people rejoice when there is a righous leader and the people morn when there is a wicked one). Put this is the fault of all believers. Man has ego ,so then why do we push them into high places to represent so many of us ? We block him from the humility that God uses to speak to us though. Ofcourse Carel had to be that way ,he had an image to keep up how could he be judged by a non pastor or admit fault to a no body? This is why we gotta stop this people worship and hierarchical stuff. It's setting all of us u0 to fail
His wife is going to stay with him until that last child leaves home and then she is going to leave that marriage! The fact that she has to ask him whether a certain subjects is safe to talk about means she's not ready to take her power back and stand on her own two feet. I don't think she even cares if he cheats again, she's literally holding on trying to keep it all together until the day all of her kids are gone.
I don't think the clip is clear about what's going on here. Carl and his wife have launched a new podcast. There are two episodes out on the B-Side channel. It gives context to what their intent is and why they are talking now. For example, he publicly states he has no intention of preaching the way he did before. Whatever you think of them, it is an interesting insight into how they dealt with it as a family.
Why do folks loathe him? We are all sinners! Prayers are important, and he brought people together with songs! What happened to forgiveness and redemption?
Because somehow, some way, a lot of us forget that the Lord's loving-kindness leads us all to repentance. We also tend to forget that we all have sinned and continue to sin and fall short of God's glory. Be well and be at peace.
Predictor on vulnerable people and calling it addiction - call it being unfaithful. It’s cruel to abuse others wherever it is done, and find buzzwords to describe harmful acts.
He's straddling the fence. You can't be luke warm. What's in the heart comes out the mouth. He's already trying to jump back in and be back to where he was before. Stop it. No excuses. If you've truly repented then go and sin no more. I understand that no one is perfect but don't make excuses. You were looking for sex. You looked and you found. Accept full responsibility.
Adverse Childhood Experiences, Sexual Abuse especially alter a child and the damaging impact to the child stays hidden because it is not safe, no way to process it, or understand it, or make it make sense. Often times a child is threatened and told "don"t tell" So much sadness and harm to So Many innocent victims. 😭
He’s no longer a child. He could have gone for counseling. He had the resources and access to the best the world has to offer. He chose to commit adultery, among other things, instead.
Where is the evidence that he was abused? Hillsong leadership has a long history of abusing and dismissing the vulnerable so it's a bit convenient that he's suddenly interested in supporting victims.
He represents most of the world noone and I mean NOONE is perfect no matter who they are or what position they hold I respect him for being able to now sit in his truth no matter how ugly it is. This is what the church is actually missing God bless him
In all due respect and out of a place of nothing but love, I have to ask..... how do you know? The Bible says all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. Did the man do wrong? Absolutely. Will He stand accountable before God? There is no doubt. Whether he knew or knows Jesus is another story. Remember Matthew chapter 7 verses 1-3. Matthew chapter 12 verses 36-45 tells us that we will be judged by the words of our mouth. You just said a mouthful in that post. You might want to think about it.
The church supports abuse 😂. The real issue here. A women who stays with a cheating man is dumb. Sorry but not sorry. Forgiveness doesn't mean stay in the picture. Humans are not God we don't have that kind of grace nor are we even called to . God is already faithful, a cheater doesn't need to tire a woman around by following him in whatever he does. It says nothing against the faith of a woman nor her ability to forgive if she leaves. Unlike God, she has only so many days and so much energy to spend .
If you're still a sinner, I pray that you will give your life to Christ before it's too late. Jesus died to save us from sinners to the righteousness of God i Christ Jesus. God bless you 🙏
Stone throwers? This is a UA-cam comment section. You are comparing this to real life people being stoned??? God's people will give counsel, advice, correction. He should accept all and be humbled.
When a man is given power, fame and money, they don’t know how to handle it. I am not generalizing. But, self control and setting boundaries are difficult to have. It’s a sad reality that most men/women have to deal with. Even if one is religious, it still happens. Infidelity in all forms is like a disease that can be contagious and difficult to treat or prevent….The betrayed spouse ultimately carries the burden of trauma and pain..😢 Been there, done that 😢
The only way someone like this will ever truly get past their issues is to abandon the spotlight forever and live a quiet life. You can’t just spend a few years healing and then jump right back into the same types of things that causes your issues to begin with. He needs absolutely zero attention for the rest of his life.
Hey let’s be Christians, love on that man, and pray for him. We’ve all messed up and what would we find in our hidden closets yk? We’re all broken but the beautiful thing about God is He loves us where we are and loves Carl where he is.
True. Everyone deserves grace. The reporter is a christian too, I think that's cool. Tbh, I think Carl is sincere, but the only thing I don't agree with is him going on to pastor another megachuch (Transformation Church) very soon after he got fired from Hillsong for misconduct and sexual infidelity. Of course, Transformation Church leadership invited him so it's not all on him but I question the wisdom in that decision so soon after the hillsong fallout
God can be here for him....I won't be. On this Earthly Plane, he gave his word and kept breaking it until he got caught, so It's a no for me. in that next plane of existence...maybe
@@kjdnyhmghfvbare u someone close to him in real life? Cause why would it matter if you are not there for him? I mean No one will know about it, no one will suffer because of it and most importantly no one cares about you not bein there for him!
Some comments about Carl and we don't know his heart. Sure, but Carl is going to great lengths to tell you his heart by doing this interview, many podcasts, etc. Yes he's still growing and having trouble owning all of this, I agree, his image is still really important to him, yes .. But how do his real friends support his growth right now and in the next season? Is it best for him to be back into the spotlight? God is never done healing us, and I'm sure his plan for Carl is FIRST to heal his heart. Identity doesn't come from being important. God can only and truly fill us -- but we have to be able to lay it ALL down. I hope he continues on his journey pursuing after a connection with God.
This interview (and Carl's pending 'comeback' to "celebrity church culture") reminds me of the final scene of "Devil's Advocate" (1997): "Vanity, definitely my favorite sin." Let this be a caution to us all. Don't run and call your sin "a flaw". Don't blame your actions on "brokenness". Run to God with repentance immediately. I promise you the attention of the world is NOT worth your soul. My hearts with his wife and family.
Lord restore I won't judge him we all capable of coming to in the glory of God but he wasn't in this alone we need more spiritual leaders willing to help our leaders stay strong Delilah spirits are still amongst us jezebel too
Right, but um…he’s completely unfit for public consumption and needs to throw himself into a prayer closet indefinitely. It the first words out of his mouth aren’t I am a sinning ass sinner then boy, bye! But amen!
And not everything is those two Biblical whoring spirits, he knew what he was and took his position, role and RING without even a thought to try and clean himself up and heal this “trauma”- God is mercifully giving him a chance to roam in the same spheres and to salvage his marriage but he has to practice humbleness- like actually 😢
We cannot judge this guy . We all have our walk with God . He is right, trauma manifests in all different craze ways , need to work on deliverence from trauma and so on. Praying for you Carl Lentz.
His words ring true. Sex addiction is about trauma and when you are lying, when you get caught…full blown truth is always resisted. You feed them on a need to know basis
Bravo on this worldwide privacy tour. Spotlight lovers are gonna seek the spotlight. He talks a good talk. 😅 He knows what to say and which manipulative buttons to push.
Mannnn...the guy doing the interview is really good. He can ask hard and straight questions! Now that's a reporter 😮
I like it that the reporter, as a Christian, wasn't going to give him a pass.
I know! I am surprised!!! He is very direct.
if he could just stop talking with his hand all over his face all the time tho
He is rude!
He use to work for CBS before he got picked up by ABC.
Rockstar pastor is not an appropriate title in the body of Christ. So glad this guy was removed from a position of influence & power. Sadly, too many churches allow this behavior to infect their congregation.
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Amen to that
And idolizing
YUP
He's already found another paid position within a church here where I live in Tulsa, OK..
Well, I'm glad he's still in the faith. Being a minister doesn't make you immune to needing the Lord on a personal level.
The essence of our faith is to reach the lost, and sometimes, the lost is active in church. May Pastor Carl grow in intimacy with God because, as a child of God, he's enough, with or without title. May this resonate with every believer!
Perfect response!
This comment. 🩵
Amen
Christ is enough, not sinful humanity who deserves absolutely nothing good from God. Nobody is ENOUGH. This is completely man centered and not Christ exalting.
@@DavidBradford-cw2fl in Christ, we're enough. He paid the price and made us worthy.
Too many pastors and “Christians” hiding their flaws pretending they don’t struggle at all, fighting silent battles and repressing trauma out of fear to truly heal - all I can say is, thanks Carl for providing a space to be human - in desperate need of his Grace and Mercy
girl! all he's doing is chucking up his mistakes to excuses and not taking any kind of real accountability. MEA CULPA!
That’s not being human that’s being selfish & weak. We call it carnality a “carnal christian.”
Not practicing what you preach. One foot in the kingdom, one in the world.
It’s lust of the eyes, lust of the flesh, and the pride of life…” comes not from The Father but of the world. [1John 2:16].
Matthew
“If anyone causes one of these little ones-those who believe in me-to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
Stop giving these narcissists any more attention.
Seriously
We are all narcissists - every single one of us.
@oscarbenigsen4538 incorrect. We're not all walking around with personality disorders.
@@chaoticgood.. There is no objective reference to which we might point to determine when one human's so-called "normal" personality proceeds into narcissism. Every human naturally references himself, his own perceptions and feelings, as the final arbiter of reality. To relate to others, we naturally reference ourselves and then impose our sensibilities upon others, this, by blind faith that others are somehow like us.
We are naturally selfish. And should we find ourselves in poor circumstances, we are naturally selfish to the most wicked and unnatural degree. Everything is about us, even when we make sacrifices for others. This is our natural state. We are all narcissists. Indeed, I find that those who leap to condemn others as narcissists, tend to be incorrigibly self-focused.
@@chaoticgood.. super weird to go around acting like narcissist don't exist This guy shows every single sign and he's probably actually a psychopath
“It’s not like I was out looking to have sex.”
Dude, be real. You’re only lying to yourself.
He’s only sorry he got caught
It’s so weird how you people stay judging when you have zero clue what’s going on
@@dwaynethomas4622 I promise you they'll get bit by their own judgement if they haven't been already.
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Naive anyone? Man.. wake up. Just because you can’t see it. It’s called reframing.
@@elitemindset9581 you’re pretending to be a mind reader. You’re a gossiping fake Christian who judges from afar when you don’t know anything
Who asked for this interview???
He needs to sit down & live a quiet life... period.
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We don't need to hear another word from this man.
I did! It has 600+ likes so I must not be the only one and his podcast is doing great too. If you don’t like him. You have a choice to not watch it.
Read your Bible✝️😊God forgave David. It’s called forgiveness 😊✝️
@@soniairak80 of course... people love being manipulated & finessed.
Mr. Lentz was, clearly, not a pastor after God's own heart.
We have to be careful with passing judgment...because David was called a man after God's own heart and if you read the Bible, he did some very dark things.
But repentance was key to his standing with God.
Be well and be at peace.
Just like David?
The only difference between him and many of us is he got caught while the rest are still in the darkness of their own secrets. Pastor Lentz is free. Be careful how you judge lest you yourself fall.
Amen.
@@dz7a756 wrong. We are called to righteously judge.
He is so quick to excuse himself, make excuses and minimize what he has done
that's what charlatans do
thats the same thing i got from this
Narcissism
Kicking off redemption tour?
So after God forgives him how does God look at him?
I am not a rehab/addiction recovery expert but I do know that they tell you to own your stuff. He frequently uses verbiage like "When you are lying" instead of "When I was lying". Own it. "I was a sex addict". "I was a drug addict". According to the one woman he had an adulterous relationship with alcohol was part of his adulterous lifestyle experiences. Feels like there is still more healing and humility that needs to happen.
Why are the first words out of his mouth “I am a sinning ass sinner” period bye
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That's just the ideological bs people like him know they have to say if they're ever going to get some naive and gullible folks to believe he's a changed man.
He's nothing but a twisted lying wolf in teenage sheep's clothing.
I object to the part where he explains he was not responsible for his behaviour because he was broken or had addiction predilection. Very easy to turn to God with your brokenness, or addiction issue's. Hes always there to help. Maybe he's not owning his choices because, he made knowing it was sin, and not wanting to admit that. Such a terrible thing to do to a wife and family. Feel so bad for them. And he's not owning these things, that means he's not sincerely repenting of them with God.
@@shaysceneftl Did he say that?
The fact he still can't admit he's a sex addict is crazy and shows he's not even begun to come to terms with himself and the pain he's caused. Blaming his infidelity on past trauma is a cowardly copout.
That part. He's not an addict. He's just a communal narcissist. He is more interested with the notion to be seen as a good person rather than actually living his life as a good person. When he can't do that, then the deep work still is missing. He is still being enabled by the media. ABC must really be in need of content. Nothing to profile here. He doesn't need ABC news or the media to affirm his salvation. If he's a changed man then that should be enough for him. Why the broadcast? Why does he need more attention and for everyone to cheer? He should put his head down and go do the work as well as do the deep work so he isn't still addicted to attention. There are so many people out there that he can help.
He's getting in touch with his pain,...the beginning of healing and changing
I don't think he is a sex addict. He is just a selfish man that likes fooling around and lying about it
Read The Body Keeps the Score by Van der Kolk.
Actually started a podcast, he has admitted to being a drug addict in the second episode so it’s possible he has admitted privately to her and will publicly
None of us are perfect, but I see this guy as a wolf in sheeps clothing. I personally don’t trust him at all.
Infidelity was the fruit. Pride was the root...as it is in so many things.
Agree pride played a big role
Man that's deep
I don’t believe a word he says…
Its not for you to believe. Worry bout your own sins, how bout that?
@@KeeplaYousa Silly and ill informed response. We are called to judge each other within the church. So it is for us to believe or not.
doesn’t really matter though does it
@@eoinMB3949To be fair, how can we properly judge someone when we don’t know their heart position. It’s kind of unfair to say you don’t believe his words when it’s possible that He truly means them.
@skalias815 Eh I never said I didn't believe his words, that was the op. I said "believe or not"
I can’t stand the way he tries to downplay his hypocrisy. Just sickening!
This interviewer is good at grilling him
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“Why couldn’t you keep it in your pants” 🤔 Great reporting I guess 🤷🏾♂️
@@Realityrantbut notice he denies that was the problem he just made some lame excuse
@@RealityrantNo, that was a straight shooter question.
@@trustnoone3007 but a lame answer
We don’t know what he said to his wife or if he has admitted everything else. It’s not our job to throw stones at a brother in Christ. What I’m taking away from this that I’m just as guilty of my own sins and he just got caught being in the public eye how many of us are doing crap behind closed doors. We need to learn from this interview and not be holier than thou. This is why David would have rather been judged by God than the people.
It's not okay to commit adultery. It's a commandment of God which is fact. If a person sincerely repents then that sin is put into remission. But if the person doesn't repent, than that sin is on him. In order to repent, first you have to admit your sins. He had to because he got caught.
@@ENTERTAINMENT-th6cheh did you all the sudden forget David was also repentant because HE was caught by Nathan 🌚 please let’s stop being biblically illiterate 😭
@@ENTERTAINMENT-th6choh let me also remind you: the woman caught in adultery and the woman at the well… caught and they repeated. They didn’t confess their sins and repent out of their own selves. Please please again let’s not run with our own understandings and make a theology of that. It’s dangerous
@KrimsonRose87 My comments were based on statements made by God in Scripture. There was nothing interpreted. There was nothing misunderstood. We cannot add or take away from God's word. He judges by our desires, and our actions. He sees if our remorse is sincere or not.
How do you know he's a brother, I don't see his love of Christ at all.
He still sounds like a con artist.
I pray for him and his wife and children 🙏🏼 we are supposed to be praying for them.😔
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I agree with you
We’re also to be marking wolves.
This is one of the most sensible comments 👏. I agree wit you 🙏
I hope he and his family can continue to move forward and heal.
When Christian’s try to keep up with fashion trends & looking cool! You know it’s a sign to watch out for , especially as a pastor
Praise God for His grace and mercy. Only God knows Carl's heart and I pray that Carl and his wife continue to heal and bring glory to God.
Excuses is all I heard 💀
Characterizing his infidelity as an illness… not sure there’s a lot of ownership in that.
the church is a place for sick people.
He is blaming ‘trauma’ for his sinful choices.
He was drunk with pride, fame and fortune.
He needs to humble himself and accept the fact that pride comes before the fall. The only trauma in this scenario is the trauma he inflicted to his wife and children.
4:52 I remember watching this in 2014 and thinking it was fake. Lentz says, “I’m not that good” and he’s right-that’s why it came across as totally inauthentic.
ABC must really be in need of content. Nothing to profile here. He doesn't need ABC news or the media to affirm his salvation. If he's a changed man then that should be enough for him. Why the broadcast? Why does he need more attention and for everyone to cheer? He should put his head down and go do the work as well as do the deep work so he isn't still addicted to attention. There are so many people out there that he can help.
Then why did Lentz agree to sit for the interview?
Yes. It should be a journey of redemption done between him and God but because he’s probably trying to jumpstart his “career “ and get back to the good money, he needs ABC. Otherwise, true change takes time and does not need all this broadcasting.
Or Carl did the interview because he misses his fame and hopes this will get him back on that path
Totally agree!!
Bingo!
THE WAY SOME PEOPLE PLAY WITH GOD IS SO DISCUSTING!
I’m sure you do too but no one is judging you because you do it in secret. 😅
DISGUSTING!!!! You got that right!! Wolves everywhere.. Lord have mercy on thr babes!!!
@Lolmos11 she hasn't professed to be a leader or teacher. His standard was higher.
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@@Lolmos11you think she's like Carl? Maybe you are.
Excellent interviewer! Give this guy a raise!
Interviewer: "How many affairs were there?" Lentz: "I'm not going to get into numbers, my kids have been through too much..." - he says this while doing a nationally broadcasted interview before millions! 🙄
Exactly. Manipulation and lies
What I see is a man who has owned his brokenness and has been humbled, by God's mercy. No need for the peanut gallery to keep throwing stones.
Why talking to the non Christian public?
Agreed! I so respect that they are sharing their story openly and publicly, even when they know people will judge and throw stones. God bless them. This will help lots of Christians with hidden sin.
@@HPCsma the non Christian public needs to see more Christians taking full accountability- they also need to see what it looks like when God redeems a broken story! We all need to see it!
I see the opposite.
He dresses that way to express his sexuality. Anyway, he’s going to make even more money with a new business model. He’s not a moral leader, but a social influencer using religion and celebrity to advance himself for money.
I know, so obvious.
He dresses that way because that’s his style and makes him relatable to a certain demographic…my dad is a minister and dresses nice and is a handsome man…not a sin last time I checked!
”For God hath not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness.“
1 Thessalonians 4:7 KJV
Real title “Carl Lentz still has connections and we’re stupid enough to try and help”
7:15 “told her the truth… which wasn’t the whole truth…” - that would be accurate called a lie, not “the truth” …this is the mentality that needs transformation.
FULL STOP… this is a HORRIBLE way to show you’ve changed. This guy literally does everything to make sure he’s in the like light. Has nothing to do with Jesus
This is not religion, ridiculous.
Relijunk
Tattoos are sketchy to begin with, but his say "make em pay?" That says it all. One man should never embody or be the focus of a ministry except Jesus. Obviously, he's paying more attention to his style than he knows about the Divine and spiritual realities. Can't even speak meaningfully about the Holy Spirit with Oprah.
How are tattoos sketchy?
@albinosh4dow it bad enough when kids scribble on the walls, but when grownups draw on their skin with permanent ink many who.later regret it, it's sketchy and resembles poor life choices of youth.
Your personal growth and relationship with God should not be announced to the world like “hey, look at me, I’m changing!” He’s desperate for attention. Keep a low profile in society and keep growing without having to announce it to the world. It’s like he wants to convince the world that he’s a good person. Worry about God knowing the truth of who you are and the rest will come naturally without having to scream it for others to notice.
Definitely agree. All the bible does say that the leader has to be of good reputation. In the eyes of men reputation is kinda important in leadership in even a practical way . I don't personally see this in such a harsh way cuz people are going to people at the end of the day and desire and sexual desire is a constant of the body so it's really only a matter of what the wife decides on this .
The reporter is awesome and I love that he's been interviewing Carl over a 10-year span so he can really ask the hard questions. I was very saddened when the news broke but not surprised. The guy is a sinner who was not surrounded by a team of people willing to reprove him and escalate when he went dark. Everyone can not handle fame, money, influence.
People out here judging Carl Lentz like even Jesus wouldn’t do. Yes sure, he broke his life but as Jesus said, “ I’m not here for the well but for the sick.” I hope he truly finds forgiveness and acceptance in Jesus.
It's insensitive and rude to say, "Why couldn’t you keep it in your pants" when Carl is opening up in such a genuine way. We shouldn't throw stones because we're all guilty of sin one way or another. I appaud his effort to rebuild his relationship with God, his wife, and family. Prayers for God's grace, mercy, and favor. 🙏
Hillsong had problems.
He was one of them…
So so glad you grilled him on his media press tour for his podcast!
This is one of the reasons why many people leave the Church. Periodt.
True
5:17 not even the reporter believed him by that hmm
Do you think ABC reached out to him or he found a way to get an interview and back in the spotlight? Probably a mix of both. He could have not done this interview and just disappeared found the Lord but nah, gotta be in the spotlight.
He's preaching soon. Genuinely. He's trying to come back.
Because he wants back in the spotlight. Mike Todd already has him in position in his church. It's a mess.
He's been in Hollywood trying to get back in the limelight since he got canned in 2020.
Trying to line up a reality show about people recovering after their downfalls.
@@FoursWithin WOooowww...these types just don't change
Don't like his teaching but I pray that his marriages endure ,praying for his wife kids...and pray that he finds Jesus and develops a relation with God
I have a feeling "trauma" is used too loosely now a days.nowadays
sexual abuse being referred to as trauma is not a "loose" reference
““If you love me, obey my commandments.”
John 14:15 NLT
He make himself a victim!!!! Well you reap what you sow!!! He was a celebrity pastor that what he likes to be address!!!
Jesus said go and sin no more!!!!
I argued with this dude on Instagram ages ago. Called him out on wearing $1200 t-shirts from Rick Owens but somehow pretending to be a man of God LOL He couldn't even defend himself
when I think about these religious/cult types using their followers 10% tithing $$$ to fund their lifestyles ... and then have a multitude of affairs while preaching goodness from the pulpit... I vacillate between sheer disgust and anger
Me too. lol
@@ImDahDude he followed me afterwards to pretend like he's the bigger man. He unfollowed me two days later. Total fraud
Not too shocking. Personalities are usally elected to high places ,not qualified people. As a young millennial working in corporate who would consider him extremely knowledgeable in theology and most biblical doctrine and church history. I see in both church and not that people doing the talking don't have much to say usally and they are not the strongest people among them. But unfortunately most people hearing are not really listening and so the most charismatic person is picked rather than the most qualified which is this not what the prophet said lest they hear with their ears and see with their eyes and come to me and be healed . But ofcourse we are like our ancestors although we are too stubborn to admit it because we call ourselves " Christian " as if that mean anything; we want a king and a prophet to go and hear for us because we haven't the dedication to to it ourselves. So God gave moses as mediator as it says and then the people wanted to see a leader ,so God gave Sual to show isreal thar it's dumb to want an imperfect man to lead u over God and warned ahead of time what he would do but God gave anyway. This is most people in church and as Solomon. (The people rejoice when there is a righous leader and the people morn when there is a wicked one).
Put this is the fault of all believers. Man has ego ,so then why do we push them into high places to represent so many of us ? We block him from the humility that God uses to speak to us though. Ofcourse Carel had to be that way ,he had an image to keep up how could he be judged by a non pastor or admit fault to a no body? This is why we gotta stop this people worship and hierarchical stuff. It's setting all of us u0 to fail
@@komlat253interesting. Thanks for the inight
His wife is going to stay with him until that last child leaves home and then she is going to leave that marriage! The fact that she has to ask him whether a certain subjects is safe to talk about means she's not ready to take her power back and stand on her own two feet. I don't think she even cares if he cheats again, she's literally holding on trying to keep it all together until the day all of her kids are gone.
I enjoyed my time there but it wasn't real and I left years before the fall of Hillsong
Did you join another religious cult?
The lack of accountability is sad. You can’t blame your actions on brokenness. Own whet you did and do better.
I don't think the clip is clear about what's going on here. Carl and his wife have launched a new podcast. There are two episodes out on the B-Side channel.
It gives context to what their intent is and why they are talking now.
For example, he publicly states he has no intention of preaching the way he did before.
Whatever you think of them, it is an interesting insight into how they dealt with it as a family.
A sensible comment....
Why do folks loathe him? We are all sinners! Prayers are important, and he brought people together with songs! What happened to forgiveness and redemption?
Because we like to loathe. It's easier to see the speck in another's eye than the log in our own... or something like that.
Secular songs bring people together as well...not sure what your point is
A lot of people are over celebrity pastors. The 💰, the fame, the tats, the sensuality, the designer clothes, etc
Because somehow, some way, a lot of us forget that the Lord's loving-kindness leads us all to repentance.
We also tend to forget that we all have sinned and continue to sin and fall short of God's glory.
Be well and be at peace.
@@dz7a756 We can extend grace and mercy as we all need it. But the man's going back to money and fame, root issues with him.
He absolutely had control of this "celebrity" status. He made choices.
Predictor on vulnerable people and calling it addiction - call it being unfaithful. It’s cruel to abuse others wherever it is done, and find buzzwords to describe harmful acts.
He's straddling the fence. You can't be luke warm. What's in the heart comes out the mouth. He's already trying to jump back in and be back to where he was before. Stop it. No excuses. If you've truly repented then go and sin no more. I understand that no one is perfect but don't make excuses. You were looking for sex. You looked and you found. Accept full responsibility.
I heard someone say (maybe cs lewis) that satan owns the fence.
Still attempting to stay relevant, clout chasing! Hasn't learned much from his failures!
Liars...God always expose sheep in Lamb's clothing.
You mean a wolf in sheep's clothing
He talks about his flaws in the past tense. Yeah, right.
And you are flawless I suppose...Yeah, right.
Publicity hound, he can't wait for his next piece 😅😂😅
when he's been exposed to adultery you mean he committed it. Big difference. And stop giving him a platform
I can remember David’s story. The man after Gods own heart. Praying for this man and everyone who struggles and repented.
Adverse Childhood Experiences, Sexual Abuse especially alter a child and the damaging impact to the child stays hidden because it is not safe, no way to process it, or understand it, or make it make sense. Often times a child is threatened and told "don"t tell" So much sadness and harm to So Many innocent victims. 😭
He’s no longer a child. He could have gone for counseling. He had the resources and access to the best the world has to offer. He chose to commit adultery, among other things, instead.
Where is the evidence that he was abused? Hillsong leadership has a long history of abusing and dismissing the vulnerable so it's a bit convenient that he's suddenly interested in supporting victims.
@@yesimemoin0935 Unsure.
He represents most of the world noone and I mean NOONE is perfect no matter who they are or what position they hold I respect him for being able to now sit in his truth no matter how ugly it is. This is what the church is actually missing God bless him
He was lying then. He was sorry BECAUSE HE WAS CAUGHT. So what makes it different now? Hypocrite is what he is.
Some guys don’t know when to shut up and exit the stage. He’s not humble and never has been.
No matter what you do in ministry God always exposes the sins of the leadership 🙏
HE WAS NO PASTOR! HE CARED ABOUT BEING POPULAR.. HE NEVER KNEW JESUS PERSONALLY!!
In all due respect and out of a place of nothing but love, I have to ask..... how do you know?
The Bible says all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. Did the man do wrong? Absolutely. Will He stand accountable before God? There is no doubt. Whether he knew or knows Jesus is another story. Remember Matthew chapter 7 verses 1-3. Matthew chapter 12 verses 36-45 tells us that we will be judged by the words of our mouth.
You just said a mouthful in that post. You might want to think about it.
@@sheilatt9589 and remember the Lord turns ppl over to a reprobate mind! And HIS FRUIT STINKS! YOU WILL KNOW THEM BY THEIR FRUIT!
if i were his wife, i would have left him
Well you are not
The church supports abuse 😂. The real issue here. A women who stays with a cheating man is dumb. Sorry but not sorry. Forgiveness doesn't mean stay in the picture. Humans are not God we don't have that kind of grace nor are we even called to . God is already faithful, a cheater doesn't need to tire a woman around by following him in whatever he does. It says nothing against the faith of a woman nor her ability to forgive if she leaves. Unlike God, she has only so many days and so much energy to spend .
Me-too.
That's why you are not
@@soniairak80thank GOD. Barf
I remember you & glad to see you again. We are all broken. I’m 77 and I’m still a sinner. Keep your head up. You aren’t fake.
If you're still a sinner, I pray that you will give your life to Christ before it's too late. Jesus died to save us from sinners to the righteousness of God i Christ Jesus.
God bless you 🙏
what a great interview. God bless you all. mercy
A con man till the end!
Wow. Tough crowd. Lots of perfect stone throwers here.
Please have mercy on all of us, Lord. We’re all sinners in desperate need of our Saviour 🙏🙏
Stone throwers? This is a UA-cam comment section. You are comparing this to real life people being stoned???
God's people will give counsel, advice, correction. He should accept all and be humbled.
I heard nothing but excuses
When a man is given power, fame and money, they don’t know how to handle it. I am not generalizing. But, self control and setting boundaries are difficult to have. It’s a sad reality that most men/women have to deal with. Even if one is religious, it still happens. Infidelity in all forms is like a disease that can be contagious and difficult to treat or prevent….The betrayed spouse ultimately carries the burden of trauma and pain..😢 Been there, done that 😢
The only way someone like this will ever truly get past their issues is to abandon the spotlight forever and live a quiet life. You can’t just spend a few years healing and then jump right back into the same types of things that causes your issues to begin with. He needs absolutely zero attention for the rest of his life.
Agree. Damage control
The interviewer is spot on in his questions. Thank you for calling it like we are all screaming at our screens
Hey let’s be Christians, love on that man, and pray for him. We’ve all messed up and what would we find in our hidden closets yk? We’re all broken but the beautiful thing about God is He loves us where we are and loves Carl where he is.
True. Everyone deserves grace. The reporter is a christian too, I think that's cool. Tbh, I think Carl is sincere, but the only thing I don't agree with is him going on to pastor another megachuch (Transformation Church) very soon after he got fired from Hillsong for misconduct and sexual infidelity. Of course, Transformation Church leadership invited him so it's not all on him but I question the wisdom in that decision so soon after the hillsong fallout
God can be here for him....I won't be. On this Earthly Plane, he gave his word and kept breaking it until he got caught, so It's a no for me. in that next plane of existence...maybe
@@kjdnyhmghfvbare u someone close to him in real life? Cause why would it matter if you are not there for him? I mean No one will know about it, no one will suffer because of it and most importantly no one cares about you not bein there for him!
Humble and honest. Good for him. He's definitly in the right way
Some comments about Carl and we don't know his heart. Sure, but Carl is going to great lengths to tell you his heart by doing this interview, many podcasts, etc.
Yes he's still growing and having trouble owning all of this, I agree, his image is still really important to him, yes ..
But how do his real friends support his growth right now and in the next season? Is it best for him to be back into the spotlight?
God is never done healing us, and I'm sure his plan for Carl is FIRST to heal his heart. Identity doesn't come from being important. God can only and truly fill us -- but we have to be able to lay it ALL down.
I hope he continues on his journey pursuing after a connection with God.
Remember when he was too busy hanging out with Justin Bieber, instead of at the church. They all dropped that poser
This interview (and Carl's pending 'comeback' to "celebrity church culture") reminds me of the final scene of "Devil's Advocate" (1997): "Vanity, definitely my favorite sin." Let this be a caution to us all. Don't run and call your sin "a flaw". Don't blame your actions on "brokenness". Run to God with repentance immediately. I promise you the attention of the world is NOT worth your soul. My hearts with his wife and family.
He needs to repent and live a life out of the pulpit. Hes forfeited that right.
Title : Opens up about infidelity
Thumbnail : *smiling as if it's a photoshoot
When people hurt they hurt others close to them. The world system don’t understand forgiveness and they never will because of their mindset.
If you are judging Carl by this interview, go watch his podcast. He takes full accountability for his actions at length.
This is the first fallen preacher that has really taken responsibility. Most just brush it aside.
If you consider blame, blame, blame, responsibility, blame, blame, blame, responsibility full accoutability.
Sounds like making excuses. Follow God, not man.
Narcissistic.
Lord restore I won't judge him we all capable of coming to in the glory of God but he wasn't in this alone we need more spiritual leaders willing to help our leaders stay strong Delilah spirits are still amongst us jezebel too
I will he needs to go away
Right, but um…he’s completely unfit for public consumption and needs to throw himself into a prayer closet indefinitely. It the first words out of his mouth aren’t I am a sinning ass sinner then boy, bye! But amen!
And not everything is those two Biblical whoring spirits, he knew what he was and took his position, role and RING without even a thought to try and clean himself up and heal this “trauma”- God is mercifully giving him a chance to roam in the same spheres and to salvage his marriage but he has to practice humbleness- like actually 😢
so...blame women? and if you need leaders for leaders... then how are you ready to lead?
We cannot judge this guy . We all have our walk with God . He is right, trauma manifests in all different craze ways , need to work on deliverence from trauma and so on. Praying for you Carl Lentz.
His words ring true. Sex addiction is about trauma and when you are lying, when you get caught…full blown truth is always resisted. You feed them on a need to know basis
I don't understand why they would do this. Or even why it's news worthy.
Why are we still talking about this guy?
Bravo on this worldwide privacy tour.
Spotlight lovers are gonna seek the spotlight.
He talks a good talk. 😅 He knows what to say and which manipulative buttons to push.
Anyone else notice he can't even admit it was about an affair.
Kudos to this interviewer!
Ewww he needs to go quietly! He doesn't sound remorseful. He sounds like he's making excuses.