Gen Thomas didn't get enough credit for this victory, because it was his men who assaulted Missionary Ridge without orders, against a strongly fortified, and nearly unassailable position and took the ridge forcing the entire Confederate army to retreat. Thomas had just previously been nicknamed the Rock of Chickamunga for the way he held the line, saving the rest of the Union Army during their retreat and holding up the Confederate advance.
@@dylannotsor6955 He destroyed his own recollections and correspondences from the war as I recall because he didn’t want future generations picking over his life. He was also viewed with great suspicion by his peers and superiors because of his origins; he was a native Virginian and came from an exceedingly wealthy family of slaveholding Plantation owners. As a result, he was often discriminated against and passed over for promotions and decorations despite his distinguished conduct and record. Probably didn’t help that his entire family to a man, except him of course, enthusiastically sided with the confederacy and remained diehard supporters of slavery and white supremacy, even long after the civil war ended. His family reportedly destroyed his pictures and correspondences they had of him when he sided with the union and basically cut all ties with him. Years later, when he learned of his sisters having fallen into severe poverty, he sent them money only for them to angrily refuse to accept it and steadfastly maintain that they had no brother, the whores… The hatred ran for so long and for so deep, none of his blood relatives even attended his funeral when he died. But honestly, maybe that was for the better. The presence of such filth would’ve despoiled his dignity. When his body was sent home east to be buried, thousands flocked to lay their respects. Grant, then the U.S. president, and many senior government officials attended a large public funeral at Thomas’s wife’s church in Troy, New York.
A young Wisconsin Lieutenant 18 years old who lead the charge on the ridge waving the flag of his regiment! That kids name was Arthur MacArthur JR he would be awarded the Medal of Honor. He was the Father of General Douglas MacArthur.
Arthur MacArthur was the most flamboyantly egotistical man I had ever seen, until I met his son. ~ Major General Enoch H. Crowder This quote was later cited by former President Harry S. Truman. ua-cam.com/video/ov7ggviCOWI/v-deo.html At 2:30
This key to this battle was set in place in October 1863 when Grant arrived in Chattanooga. A Union officer commented that before Grant arrived it was chaos and disorder. Once Grant arrived the chaos dissipated, and order and discipline was restored.
You know, I read this sort of thing over and over when it comes to Grant. It's a key facet that, while very mundane and not at all flashy, describes his genius. He seems to really understand the difficulties of reorganizing an army on the fly. Everyone else, every other general, seemed to have to pause and consolidate. Consider (on both sides) the aftermath of Gettysburg. Grant, by contrast, whether here or at Shiloh, reorganized his forces, sometimes _during_ battles, and went right on. There was no "give an order, wait a day and see" with Grant. It was "oh, this isn't working, tell General X to go there instead." Time after time. This is vastly underappreciated and consisted of something more than "will". It required him to see what was going on, and give competent orders to fix it.
His experience in the Mexican War as quartermaster gave Grant immeasurable hands-on experience in how important keeping a marching army supplied was. The Napoleon adage "An army marches on it's stomach." Reading Bruce Catton's account of Lookout Mountain George Thomas and his boys were looked upon as 'losers' for Chickamauga and a sweeping urge to prove everyone wrong and restore their beloved 'Pap Thomas' made them surge forward. As Catton summed up 'No power on earth could have held these veterans of Chickamauga back'. Grant sharply asked Thomas "Who ordered them to advance?" to which Thomas said he had no idea but I'm sure he was beaming on the inside with pride at his boys.
@@hoosieryank6731 One mortally wounded Union soldier near the top of Lookout Mountain kept repeating "Almost to the top.....almost to the top." It was also where Arthur MacArthur, Douglas' own father won the Congressional Medal of Honor.
Grant was furious at the Army of the Cumberland when they attacked. He actually tried to get Thomas to recall the men down from the heights, Thomas basically told him that would be impossible. The Army of the Cumberland were on a mission that day, they had been mortified over what happened to them at Chickamauga, Grant had been treating them horribly ever since he had arrived. Thomas had tried multiple times to get Grant to allow them to do even simple menial tasks, such as scouting and what-not, Grant refused every time. So when he finally ordered them to do something, they took it upon themselves to show him they were not the demoralized and useless force he thought they were.
Grant is said to have said to the General with him: "WHO ordered those men to attack up that hill?" The General replied: "I don't know General. It wasn't me!". It's said (words to the affect) "If that attack fails someone will be held accountable".
When I was a student at the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga, I had a small garage apartment on Missionary ridge. It was only a 2 and a half minute walk up to the top. At the top I could see all of the city below me. One of my professors also lived on the Ridge, and their neighbor actually had a cannon in their yard.
According to history records, unfortunately it doesn't look like he was a very good president but he was something else when it comes to commanding an entire army.
@@andrewapurcell He wasn't bad overall really. He created the justice department, got rid of the KKK, and was just generally good on civil rights. In his second term he couldn't do much because of congress, but still, not a bad president, especially compared to his direct predecessor Andrew Johnson, who really messed up everything for the long term. The division he created never really went away.
Grant's primary problem as president was a general overly trusting nature and political naivete. None of the scandals from his presidency were his, but rather his subordinates. He both trusted them implicitly and was flabbergasted when that trust was violated. Same thing happened in his private life, which led to him being bankrupted in his late years. But yes, on Reconstruction and Civil Rights he was solid. Both dismantled the KKK and used federal forces to enforce the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments in the southern states. Was also the first president to really show any respect at all for the rights of American Indians.
The fact that they had to wait days or even weeks to get communications from each other is absolutely insane and makes what Grant did even more impressive.
Grant didn’t give the order to advance but I gave him the credit for the victory. His leadership and victories had put his troops in a mindset that they would succeed if they went.
His leadership is what took a broken, battered Army of the Cumberland and in the space of 4 weeks turned it back into a fighting Army. It was said by a Union officer years after the war, that before Grant arrived on October 23rd, 1863, it was all chaos and disorder. Grant brought order and discipline and within days of his arrival, food, medicine, ammunition and reinforcements began to arrive. It helped that Grant had the full support of Lincoln and Stanton.
@@johnfleet235 It also helped that Grant knew how to do all that stuff. You read, over and over, how his army is supplied, sometimes in the nick of time, and the reinforcements seem to arrive, just in the nick of time. This happens too often when Grant is in charge to be accidental. He knew, comprehensively, what was needed and spent his time making sure it did. His army was surprised, once, at Shiloh. Never again. Even at Shiloh, he had ample men and materials, no small feat when ammunition wasn't really standardized. He reorganized forces on the fly there, a pattern we would see repeated. His troops were always provisioned and he had a knack for placing them in positions to win. The charge at Chattanooga shouldn't have happened, Grant didn't want it (at least not yet), but it is the thing that _can_ happen when you position your army with enough provisions and are occupying the right position on the battlefield.
@@curious968 He had been a quarter master in the Mexican wars as well You are 💯 correct Successful campaign in both western and eastern theaters of the civil war over more than three years is not by luck but by strategic genius. History records that only Goerge Washington and US Grant attainted the highest ranks the time of the civil war
It really was quite well done! I watched it only a whim and was pleasantly surprised, as it was a History Channel program. BTW, I just happened to see it shortly before a three day trip to the Shiloh Battlefield, which I also highly recommend.
On 23 November Grant ordered Thomas to probe Orchard Knob to see what Bragg was up to. Thomas moved in force, found the position was a glorified outpost screening the approaches to Missionary Ridge, pressed harder, and took the position. Grant afterward claimed that was his plan all along. On 24 November Grant ordered Hooker to make a diversion against Lookout Mountain while Sherman attacked the other end of the Confederate line. Hooker thought he could take the mountain and sought permission from Thomas, which Thomas granted. Hooker stormed the mountain in "The Battle Above the Clouds", a battle Grant afterward claimed scarcely qualified as a battle and was of no consequence, even though it flanked Bragg's position. In the meantime Sherman's attack had been completely stuffed and did not even reach Missionary Ridge in spite of being reinforced by two divisions from Thomas. On 25 November Sherman was to renew his attack while Thomas and Hooker provided diversions. Hooker moved down into the Chattanooga Valley and positioned his troops to hit Bragg's left while Thomas prepared to move against the center, but Sherman did not attack (Grant later claimed he ordered Thomas to attack in the morning, but Thomas failed to do so. There has never been any evidence of that order, nor was anyone ever found who heard it given.). After waiting most of the day for Sherman, Grant finally ordered Thomas forward at 1500 (The order was to take the rifle pits at the base of Missionary Ridge and wait, which given the Confederate guns on the Ridge, would have been Cold Harbor-grade suicide.). Hooker pressed the left, and Thomas took the rifle pits, but the troops knew the position was untenable and continued up the ridge. Hooker pressed harder on the left, and the Confederates on the ridge found themselves in a crossfire they could not withstand. Back down at Union HQ Grant demanded to know who had ordered the advance up the ridge and promised an official investigation. After the hurley burley was done, though, Grant claimed credit for ordering the attack because he knew Bragg had weakened his center to reinforce his right against Sherman. Apart from his actual reaction to the attack indicating that claim is false, there is no indication in the preattack planning records Grant knew or even thought any such thing. In fact Confederate General E.P. Alexander flatly stated there was no transfer of troops from the center, and Union General James Wilson reached the same conclusion in his investigation of the battle. And that's what the dispatches, orders, after action reports, and memoirs say about it.
One Union commander who was born in Germany is nearly forgotton in his german home town: Peter Joseph Osterhaus. Mary Bobbitt Townsend, a great great granddaughter of PJ Osterhaus wrote a biography about her famous ancestor, it's called "Yankee Warhorse". PJ Osterhaus was born in 1823 in Koblenz, Germany. As a second lieutenant of the prussian army he took part in the 1848 revolution in Germany and tried again to change the political system in Germany in 1849 in the Grand Duchy of Baden. But this uprising also failed so he had to leave Germany and moved the Belleville IL. During the Civil War he became a brigadier general and commander of the 1st division of the XV. corps of the Union Army. This division took part in the battle of Chattanooga. After the war he was promoted consul of the United States and was sent to France first before in 1877 he worked as a consul in Karlsruhe, the capital of Baden which was then a part of the new Germay Empire. This was a little bit absurd as 28 years before he returned to Baden he had been one of the leading commanders of the revolutionary troops there which had forced the Grandduke of Baden to flee. The university of Oldenburg, Germany runs a research project about the so called fortyeighters i. e. Franz Sigel, Carl Schurz, PJ Osterhaus and many others.
I worked on the north shore of the TN river in Chattanooga for years. We had a friend who was a very very knowledgeable historian and prankster. Every time the city would dig up a water or sewer line on the north shore be would walk out there and tell them to be careful because there was unexploded ordinance buried all over theplace from this battle or that battle. It would often stop rheir work for half a day while they tried to figure it out. They were looking for excuses not to work anyway. He laughed and laughed at that stuff.
The civil war was a senseless slaughter of men. Sorry liberal folks of the north, it was not worth it. Now the 13 Percent ruin the finances and safety of the US.
Thomas's troops were pissed because Grant treated them like second class soldiers. So after the other two armies stalled in their attacks, they just said to themselves we got this and charged up the hill.
Grant the everyday American hero . Looking at this man and knowing his life story , who would have said ' this is a hero " ? Proof that need creates the man .
He was a failure at everything he ever tried in his life, except saving the Union as a combat general. In other words, he never stopped getting back up.
Grant took the surrender of three Confederate armies in the ACW. This was and to this day IS magnificent. Further, he was humble to the point of shy, when off the battlefield.
Without Thomas there is no Chattanooga. And yet neither Thomas nor Grant can take any credit for the victory, the soldiers simply disobeyed their leaders and pushed ahead without regard to orders. And both Generals admitted it. The rest is history.
My distant relatives fought with 101st Illinois Infantry. Losing one man. The unit also fought with Gen. Hooker, who during one engagement "Called out "Go in, my Illinois boys."
Braxton Bragg was the most incompetent commander the confederates had but he was supported by Jefferson Davis. Bragg was an awful quibbler. Before the war he was responsible for the supply of a cavalry unit. Also he was the deputy of his commanding officer. During an absence of his commander he as the maintenance officer wrote a demand for new boots for the soldiers. A soldier took this demand from his office to the office of the commander. Later that day Bragg went to the commander's office to work as his deputy. There he oppened the letter he had written to his commander. He then rejected the request, wrote the rejection on the letter and ordered a soldier to return this demand back to his own office. Reporters became aware of this absurd behavior and half of Washington's newspaper readers shook their heads when reading about it.
@@trajan75Hood got promoted beyond his capabilities. Most seem to agree he was a good division commander but was simply unable to operate as an army commander. As can be seen by his performance at Franklin and Nashville.
As an unapologetic descendant of Confederates I am no fan of Bragg. While the Army of Tennessee had, I believe, an impossible mission, had Davis done in the west what Lincoln did in the east - change out commanders until he found someone who could succeed - I suspect the record in the west would have been less one-sided; that might have kept Grant in the west longer and changed the results in 1864. Fair arguments against my thesis would be the scarcity of Confederate officers with adequate experience to take a shot at leadership in the west, and that Sherman and Thomas were capable of taking over in the west even if the Confederate western campaign had been more successful. Why is there a fort named for Bragg? A number of bases in the south were named for well-known Confederate generals - Bragg, Lee, Pickett, Hill, Polk, Gordon - to encourage enlistment of Southern boys during the First World War. In retrospect they should have named one for Longstreet, but in 1918 he was still held in disrepute by the Lost Cause school.
@@houstonsam6163 that was a very great perspective. And of course in my studies on the Civil War I know that Bragg at times his senior staff was not very cooperative. Any Confederate commander in the west would have faced the same uphill struggles. A lot of it was the case of a clashing egos and has Samuel Watkins said he didn't think any soldier in that army ever said I loved him. But a very great analysis and getting Southern Boys to join the ranks again
I wonder when there will be a series called "Rosecrans" to celebrate how "The Union Army had move all the way through Tennessee, and captured Chattanooga!"
I don’t think Rosecrans gets the credit due him. He excelled at strategy, led his commands well and usually prevailed. An undeniable asset to the Union cause. Apparently he could be argumentative with other commanders, Grant and Stanton seem to have held a grudge. Sherman fumbled a number of times but Grant seems to have let it slide. Sherman may have been brave and tenacious, but……. After the war Rosecrans was U.S. Minister to Mexico until Grant became President, still holding a grudge.
Grant wasn't brought in to "fix" Chattanoga, he was named commander of the western theater and needed to see what was happening at Chattanoga. Most of the planning was already done before he arrived. Why no mention of the Browns Ferry attack?
If you look beyond the battles, it's clear that what Grant brought to the table was logistics, logistics, logistics. As someone else noted, the chaos stopped when Grant showed up. Armies coordinated that didnt' before, supplies arrived, got distributed in time. All that mundane stuff let his subordinate generals show _their_ stuff.
My personal opinion is that Grant was much better General than given credit for. Lee was so/so. He was a good offensive commander, but he didn't have but one resource, manpower. It was not renewable. Jackson other than his valley campaign was hit or miss.
I wanna see the Union army in 1864 that became equipped with breech-loading rifles like the trapdoor, the Joslyn "Joselle" rifle, and the Burnside rifles along with Spencer and Henry rifles as support fire rifles.
Scott was officially a Brevet Lieutenant General, essentially his Lt. Gen rank was simply for recognition of his long service and held no real authority as such. Grant's promotion was to a "full" Lieutenant General with all the pay and responsibilities that go with it, as such.
The men wrote their own orders such that they were willing to do for their leader Grant. The Rebels wrote their own orders too, retreat, because they hated Bragg.
Great content, but the way the guns shoot as a twopart boom throws me off a bit. That'd be fine for flintlocks, but percussion rifles have a characteristic single big boom
Nope. They did not have an order to attack the top of the ridge, nor was it ever the expectation. Grant simply wanted pressure on the middle of the confederate line to prevent Bragg from shifting forces to meet Sherman. He ordered the seizure of the rifle pits because he thought, erroneously, that Bragg was making such a shift.
I've stood at the top of Lookout Mountain. All of Chattanooga lies before you. It's remarkably unchanged from the 1863 pictures. Notwithstanding Bragg's mistake in occupying the Crest, rather than the Military Crest of the ridge, they were brave men that assaulted those ridges.
In my opinion, Thomas would have won at Chattanooga without Grant’s help. Hell, Thomas would have won at Chickamauga if Rosecrans hadn’t have retreated all the way to Chattanooga. Thomas’s soldiers new that when they kicked Bragg’s ass off of the ridge!
One significant reason the assault on Missionary Ridge didn't result in a massacre of the charging Union troops was that the Confederate lines were actually on the very top of Missionary Ridge; a major mistake by the Confederates. Properly, the lines should have been positioned a short distance down from the top to be more in line with the slope of the ridge. The Confederates did not have a clear field of fire, giving the Union troops shelter from the Confederate fire for a good distance up the ridge.
Promoting Grant to Lt. Gen. had to peeve the likes of Halleck & McClellan. Both, as well as others, had considered Grant useless when, after the trials by fire, they themselves proved they were “not up to the arithmetic” (Lincoln’s term for them).
Theres this scene i remember where grant along with his staff and army just stay still staring at the camera in a trench, could anyone help me with this one??
Something about this narrative NEVER made sense to me. The Union army retreated from Chickamauga to Chattanooga. Okay I get that. The confederate army followed and occupied the heights around Chattanooga. Huh? I DONT get that ! When the Union army retreated why didn’t they occupy the heights around Chattanooga? Were they in such disarray and panic that they forgot to dig in on the ridges and very large Lookout mountain around the city?
Fairly much, you named the reasons. The Union Army of the Cumberland was almost completely routed at Chickamauga. Only the rearguard action by Maj. Gen. George Thomas - combined by the fact the Confederate forces were commanded by Gen. Braxton Bragg - kept the Union army from being destroyed as it retreated into Chattanooga. By the time any semblance of military order was restored within the Union forces the Confederates had occupied the heights. In any case, the Union forces didn't have enough men to properly fortify the heights. As it was, the Confederates were spread thin.
3CBCO wrote "...against a strongly fortified, and nearly unassailable position..." What he left out is it's easy for Grant to look like a great leader when Thomas' men out-numbered the enemy 10 to 1 and most of the rifle-pits were empty. Grant won his campaigns because he was the only Union leader (bringing Sherman and Sheridan up the chain-of-command with him) who understood he had overwhelming numbers. The Union had an almost inexhaustible supply of soldiers; Grant described the South has having a thick crust but hollow on the inside. Grant used the advantage he had, and was willing to pay the butcher's bill - with other people's blood - to the point that in northern Virginia he gave the order to attack and his men refused. This eventually led to almost of year of trench warfare when he could have out-flanked Lee at any time; using those extra men he knew he had.
You think McClellan couldn't add? In the end, you fall into the trap of too many Civil War buffs. You assume there was a cheaper way to win the war. What do you think Grant's predecessors were doing? They were trying to find that cheaper way. They weren't bad men. They just couldn't face up to the war as it actually was. Nobody did really, not at first. It was unprecedented in scope. Grant could. Sherman could. As as result, they ended the war in a year. A very bloody year, but they _ended_ it. The others dithered and despite this, we still had lots of big battles with lots of casualties that lead nowhere. Did Grant have his failings? He did. Cold Harbor was a big mistake. But he also learned and adapted. Better than his predecessors who limped home after every defeat, which insured a lot of wasted lives. If you look at the overall numbers, Grant is much better than commonly supposed and often enough without overwhelming numbers, either. He did not simply throw away men to the degree commonly supposed. For the most part, he got _progress_ for the men he lost. Can't really say that for his predecessors -- or even for R. E. Lee in the end.
And did any of Grant's predecessors did any better ? Grant's predecessors are use to a pristine kind of war and try to dance daintly with Lee. This actually costed more time and lives lost unnecessarily. They would invade, lose a battle (or win like Gettysburg), then retreat and let Lee recuperate. They were too skittish and prudent. Grant meanwhile decided "F this shit" and hit Lee with his advantages. Grant often tried to flank Lee when he could but Lee has the benefit of being on the defensive. Lee may not be great strategically, but he still has some talent tactically. So it' idiotic for Grant to play to his opponent's advantage.
General Thomas was probably the most sound union General and Patrick Cleburne was for the sound Winfield Hancock was great many more like chamberlain and Alabama’s General Gordon
This is a much better story than is told here. Hooker's men had come in from the East. Sherman's men had come in from the West. Thomas's men were the ones who had just been defeated at Chickamauga and they had a chip on their shoulders. They were given the worst terrain to attack as not much was expected of them. The CSA leaders did not expect much either so they felt they could move troops away from this naturally defended area. Sometimes troops just take the bit in their teeth and do unexpected things. And a lucky general gets to take credit for it. No shade on Grant.
It's known as the 'scenic center of the south' and located where the Tennessee River, one of America's great inland rivers, flows south into northeast Alabama. As mentioned in the video, it is a strategic railroad junction necessary for commerce flowing back and forth across the Appalachian Mountains from the coasts to the interior.
This is misleading already and I'm less than 1 minute into it. They reference the union army moving into Georgia and then retreating as a "HUGE victory" for the confederates. However, it was a pyrrhic victory at best. The conferderacy lost a ton of guys at Chickamauga. Arguably, their desired outcome was damned after that battle. Historians just repeat what other historians say despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Chickamauga was not a victory for the union, but it damn sure wasn't one for the conferdates either. The Union went on to capture Atlanta. It was a lost cause for the confederates. We shouldn't worship Grant either. It was generals like Thomas and other lesser known Union generals that won that war.
Grant gets credit for one, important, forgotten thing. He made sure that the attacks were coordinated. Surprisingly enough, until Grant, some Union units attacked while others regrouped. Grant made sure everyone was engaged, pretty much all the time. This prevented the south from moving units around from theater to theater, making up in part for their smaller numbers. With Grant running things, this tactic simply stopped and it really mattered because every southern general now had to live or die with their regular commands, with no temporary reinforcements from elsewhere.
Well, is not all war pyrhic for the ones who grieve? Chickamaugua was so fierce because Longstreet hit so hard. The confidence in all southern arms with Lee's old war horse present for battle was overwhelming to all but Thomas's Corps. Thomas certainly gets credit from those who know just like Hancock is known but just not by those who can't tell the Johnston's apart🤣
It's known as the 'scenic center of the south' and located where the Tennessee River, one of America's great inland rivers, flows south into northeast Alabama. As mentioned in the video, it is a strategic railroad junction necessary for commerce flowing back and forth across the Appalachian Mountains from the coasts to the interior.
Hey History Channel, I’m gonna speak for a collective majority opinion. Please invest and make more documentaries and shows like this.
Yeah, could you also put less money into ancient aliens and or Bigfoot.
Idiocracy Michael......They need a wider audience so they can finance shows like this one....But I'm with you 100%@@MichaelClark-bd2sw
But what about idiots panning for gold in Alaska?
Yes...Same....In a scale from 0 to 10, idiots panning for gold is 0 and Ancient Aliens is Minus 10. @@limemobber
History Channel some 💩 now..
Gen Thomas didn't get enough credit for this victory, because it was his men who assaulted Missionary Ridge without orders, against a strongly fortified, and nearly unassailable position and took the ridge forcing the entire Confederate army to retreat. Thomas had just previously been nicknamed the Rock of Chickamunga for the way he held the line, saving the rest of the Union Army during their retreat and holding up the Confederate advance.
Thomas is the best general in this conflict. Grant is amazing. But Thomas is better.
Confederate incompetence. Missionary ridge was not properly fortified.
Thomas was an amazing general, but he also didn't want media attention, he was modest almost to a fault.
@@dylannotsor6955 He destroyed his own recollections and correspondences from the war as I recall because he didn’t want future generations picking over his life. He was also viewed with great suspicion by his peers and superiors because of his origins; he was a native Virginian and came from an exceedingly wealthy family of slaveholding Plantation owners. As a result, he was often discriminated against and passed over for promotions and decorations despite his distinguished conduct and record.
Probably didn’t help that his entire family to a man, except him of course, enthusiastically sided with the confederacy and remained diehard supporters of slavery and white supremacy, even long after the civil war ended. His family reportedly destroyed his pictures and correspondences they had of him when he sided with the union and basically cut all ties with him.
Years later, when he learned of his sisters having fallen into severe poverty, he sent them money only for them to angrily refuse to accept it and steadfastly maintain that they had no brother, the whores…
The hatred ran for so long and for so deep, none of his blood relatives even attended his funeral when he died. But honestly, maybe that was for the better. The presence of such filth would’ve despoiled his dignity. When his body was sent home east to be buried, thousands flocked to lay their respects. Grant, then the U.S. president, and many senior government officials attended a large public funeral at Thomas’s wife’s church in Troy, New York.
If what I read years ago is accurate, the unit that assaulted the summit had something to prove and nothing of reputation to lose.
A young Wisconsin Lieutenant 18 years old who lead the charge on the ridge waving the flag of his regiment! That kids name was Arthur MacArthur JR he would be awarded the Medal of Honor. He was the Father of General Douglas MacArthur.
ON WISCONSIN!
Arthur MacArthur is an awesome name
Im learning so much just from the comments in these videos! Fascinating stuff
Arthur MacArthur was the most flamboyantly egotistical man I had ever seen, until I met his son. ~ Major General Enoch H. Crowder
This quote was later cited by former President Harry S. Truman.
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@@enshk79 Arthur, son of Arthur.
This key to this battle was set in place in October 1863 when Grant arrived in Chattanooga. A Union officer commented that before Grant arrived it was chaos and disorder. Once Grant arrived the chaos dissipated, and order and discipline was restored.
You know, I read this sort of thing over and over when it comes to Grant. It's a key facet that, while very mundane and not at all flashy, describes his genius.
He seems to really understand the difficulties of reorganizing an army on the fly. Everyone else, every other general, seemed to have to pause and consolidate. Consider (on both sides) the aftermath of Gettysburg. Grant, by contrast, whether here or at Shiloh, reorganized his forces, sometimes _during_ battles, and went right on. There was no "give an order, wait a day and see" with Grant. It was "oh, this isn't working, tell General X to go there instead." Time after time.
This is vastly underappreciated and consisted of something more than "will". It required him to see what was going on, and give competent orders to fix it.
Rebel Generals: Ha! Union is weak! Who running them? Rebel soldier: Grant
Rebel Generals: Oh shit.
Basically speaking with all of the bad moves he made, aside from Cleburne holding off Sherman at Tunnel Hill, Bragg had no chance.
His experience in the Mexican War as quartermaster gave Grant immeasurable hands-on experience in how important keeping a marching army supplied was. The Napoleon adage "An army marches on it's stomach."
Reading Bruce Catton's account of Lookout Mountain George Thomas and his boys were looked upon as 'losers' for Chickamauga and a sweeping urge to prove everyone wrong and restore their beloved 'Pap Thomas' made them surge forward. As Catton summed up 'No power on earth could have held these veterans of Chickamauga back'. Grant sharply asked Thomas "Who ordered them to advance?" to which Thomas said he had no idea but I'm sure he was beaming on the inside with pride at his boys.
Pity they didn't mention that. Sometimes, the pride of soldiers wil carry a day.
Grant was an awesome dude 👏
@@hoosieryank6731 One mortally wounded Union soldier near the top of Lookout Mountain kept repeating "Almost to the top.....almost to the top." It was also where Arthur MacArthur, Douglas' own father won the Congressional Medal of Honor.
Grant was furious at the Army of the Cumberland when they attacked. He actually tried to get Thomas to recall the men down from the heights, Thomas basically told him that would be impossible. The Army of the Cumberland were on a mission that day, they had been mortified over what happened to them at Chickamauga, Grant had been treating them horribly ever since he had arrived. Thomas had tried multiple times to get Grant to allow them to do even simple menial tasks, such as scouting and what-not, Grant refused every time. So when he finally ordered them to do something, they took it upon themselves to show him they were not the demoralized and useless force he thought they were.
Grant is said to have said to the General with him: "WHO ordered those men to attack up that hill?" The General replied: "I don't know General. It wasn't me!". It's said (words to the affect) "If that attack fails someone will be held accountable".
The pride of soldiers...
When I was a student at the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga, I had a small garage apartment on Missionary ridge. It was only a 2 and a half minute walk up to the top. At the top I could see all of the city below me. One of my professors also lived on the Ridge, and their neighbor actually had a cannon in their yard.
I live off of Missionary Ridge. It’s so beautiful and historic here.
This made grant probably one of my favorite presidents ever
According to history records, unfortunately it doesn't look like he was a very good president but he was something else when it comes to commanding an entire army.
@@andrewapurcell He wasn't bad overall really. He created the justice department, got rid of the KKK, and was just generally good on civil rights. In his second term he couldn't do much because of congress, but still, not a bad president, especially compared to his direct predecessor Andrew Johnson, who really messed up everything for the long term. The division he created never really went away.
@@andrewapurcell You underestimate the impact US Grant's presidency. Please review one of the recent biographies on Grant.
Grant's primary problem as president was a general overly trusting nature and political naivete. None of the scandals from his presidency were his, but rather his subordinates. He both trusted them implicitly and was flabbergasted when that trust was violated. Same thing happened in his private life, which led to him being bankrupted in his late years.
But yes, on Reconstruction and Civil Rights he was solid. Both dismantled the KKK and used federal forces to enforce the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments in the southern states. Was also the first president to really show any respect at all for the rights of American Indians.
A good man in charge of a bad cabinet.
The morale that caused the charge was extraordinary and indicated the troop's absolute trust and support for their commander, General Grant.
An actual good History Channel show. My God.
Chattanooga was such a great victory and a great battlefield. It is well worth the visit.
The fact that they had to wait days or even weeks to get communications from each other is absolutely insane and makes what Grant did even more impressive.
Grant didn’t give the order to advance but I gave him the credit for the victory. His leadership and victories had put his troops in a mindset that they would succeed if they went.
Love it!!! I have so much respect and admiration for General Grant.
Yah.....after Sherman attacked the wrong hill....
His leadership is what took a broken, battered Army of the Cumberland and in the space of 4 weeks turned it back into a fighting Army. It was said by a Union officer years after the war, that before Grant arrived on October 23rd, 1863, it was all chaos and disorder. Grant brought order and discipline and within days of his arrival, food, medicine, ammunition and reinforcements began to arrive. It helped that Grant had the full support of Lincoln and Stanton.
@@johnfleet235 It also helped that Grant knew how to do all that stuff. You read, over and over, how his army is supplied, sometimes in the nick of time, and the reinforcements seem to arrive, just in the nick of time.
This happens too often when Grant is in charge to be accidental. He knew, comprehensively, what was needed and spent his time making sure it did. His army was surprised, once, at Shiloh. Never again.
Even at Shiloh, he had ample men and materials, no small feat when ammunition wasn't really standardized. He reorganized forces on the fly there, a pattern we would see repeated.
His troops were always provisioned and he had a knack for placing them in positions to win.
The charge at Chattanooga shouldn't have happened, Grant didn't want it (at least not yet), but it is the thing that _can_ happen when you position your army with enough provisions and are occupying the right position on the battlefield.
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He had been a quarter master in the Mexican wars as well
You are 💯 correct
Successful campaign in both western and eastern theaters of the civil war over more than three years is not by luck but by strategic genius.
History records that only Goerge Washington and US Grant attainted the highest ranks the time of the civil war
I’ve been there,the mountain is unbelievable!
Awesome 😮
Just finished this show.
Magnificent, very well done.
Would love to see more like this.
It really was quite well done! I watched it only a whim and was pleasantly surprised, as it was a History Channel program. BTW, I just happened to see it shortly before a three day trip to the Shiloh Battlefield, which I also highly recommend.
"They don't stop", I love that line.
On 23 November Grant ordered Thomas to probe Orchard Knob to see what Bragg was up to. Thomas moved in force, found the position was a glorified outpost screening the approaches to Missionary Ridge, pressed harder, and took the position. Grant afterward claimed that was his plan all along. On 24 November Grant ordered Hooker to make a diversion against Lookout Mountain while Sherman attacked the other end of the Confederate line. Hooker thought he could take the mountain and sought permission from Thomas, which Thomas granted. Hooker stormed the mountain in "The Battle Above the Clouds", a battle Grant afterward claimed scarcely qualified as a battle and was of no consequence, even though it flanked Bragg's position. In the meantime Sherman's attack had been completely stuffed and did not even reach Missionary Ridge in spite of being reinforced by two divisions from Thomas.
On 25 November Sherman was to renew his attack while Thomas and Hooker provided diversions. Hooker moved down into the Chattanooga Valley and positioned his troops to hit Bragg's left while Thomas prepared to move against the center, but Sherman did not attack (Grant later claimed he ordered Thomas to attack in the morning, but Thomas failed to do so. There has never been any evidence of that order, nor was anyone ever found who heard it given.). After waiting most of the day for Sherman, Grant finally ordered Thomas forward at 1500 (The order was to take the rifle pits at the base of Missionary Ridge and wait, which given the Confederate guns on the Ridge, would have been Cold Harbor-grade suicide.). Hooker pressed the left, and Thomas took the rifle pits, but the troops knew the position was untenable and continued up the ridge. Hooker pressed harder on the left, and the Confederates on the ridge found themselves in a crossfire they could not withstand.
Back down at Union HQ Grant demanded to know who had ordered the advance up the ridge and promised an official investigation. After the hurley burley was done, though, Grant claimed credit for ordering the attack because he knew Bragg had weakened his center to reinforce his right against Sherman. Apart from his actual reaction to the attack indicating that claim is false, there is no indication in the preattack planning records Grant knew or even thought any such thing. In fact Confederate General E.P. Alexander flatly stated there was no transfer of troops from the center, and Union General James Wilson reached the same conclusion in his investigation of the battle.
And that's what the dispatches, orders, after action reports, and memoirs say about it.
It's neat I'm dead center to this and Chickamauga, plenty of awesome history.
One Union commander who was born in Germany is nearly forgotton in his german home town: Peter Joseph Osterhaus. Mary Bobbitt Townsend, a great great granddaughter of PJ Osterhaus wrote a biography about her famous ancestor, it's called "Yankee Warhorse".
PJ Osterhaus was born in 1823 in Koblenz, Germany. As a second lieutenant of the prussian army he took part in the 1848 revolution in Germany and tried again to change the political system in Germany in 1849 in the Grand Duchy of Baden. But this uprising also failed so he had to leave Germany and moved the Belleville IL. During the Civil War he became a brigadier general and commander of the 1st division of the XV. corps of the Union Army. This division took part in the battle of Chattanooga. After the war he was promoted consul of the United States and was sent to France first before in 1877 he worked as a consul in Karlsruhe, the capital of Baden which was then a part of the new Germay Empire. This was a little bit absurd as 28 years before he returned to Baden he had been one of the leading commanders of the revolutionary troops there which had forced the Grandduke of Baden to flee.
The university of Oldenburg, Germany runs a research project about the so called fortyeighters i. e. Franz Sigel, Carl Schurz, PJ Osterhaus and many others.
I worked on the north shore of the TN river in Chattanooga for years. We had a friend who was a very very knowledgeable historian and prankster.
Every time the city would dig up a water or sewer line on the north shore be would walk out there and tell them to be careful because there was unexploded ordinance buried all over theplace from this battle or that battle. It would often stop rheir work for half a day while they tried to figure it out. They were looking for excuses not to work anyway. He laughed and laughed at that stuff.
He's a very clever general unconditional surrender Grant😊
The civil war was a senseless slaughter of men. Sorry liberal folks of the north, it was not worth it. Now the 13 Percent ruin the finances and safety of the US.
It's a real shame how sore losers smeared Grant after his death
Thomas's troops were pissed because Grant treated them like second class soldiers. So after the other two armies stalled in their attacks, they just said to themselves we got this and charged up the hill.
When i visited Missionary Ridge, there were monuments on top, most dedicated to New Yorkers.
This needs to be a movie guys.
its a 3 part series on the history special
Lieutenant General Grant ! Impressive !
Grant the everyday American hero . Looking at this man and knowing his life story , who would have said ' this is a hero " ? Proof that need creates the man .
He was a failure at everything he ever tried in his life, except saving the Union as a combat general. In other words, he never stopped getting back up.
Grant took the surrender of three Confederate armies in the ACW. This was and to this day IS magnificent. Further, he was humble to the point of shy, when off the battlefield.
US Grant. Even the name is memetic.
Without Thomas there is no Chattanooga. And yet neither Thomas nor Grant can take any credit for the victory, the soldiers simply disobeyed their leaders and pushed ahead without regard to orders. And both Generals admitted it. The rest is history.
I got interested when I saw a sign that said battle for Chattanooga tickets. Cause I’m In Chattanooga but I Do not live in Chattanooga
When the history channel had actual history as programming content
When we first got digital tv /History channel 😮 AWESOME, i watchers that channel everyday for years before it turned to 💩, great days great education.
We need a serie like this (With actoors, reenacting etc...) with Jeff Davis, Robert Lee and Nathan Forrest!
My distant relatives fought with 101st Illinois Infantry. Losing one man. The unit also fought with Gen. Hooker, who during one engagement "Called out "Go in, my Illinois boys."
I live slap in the middle of that battlefield . Well battle zone between Chickamauga and Chattanooga
Braxton Bragg was the most incompetent commander the confederates had but he was supported by Jefferson Davis. Bragg was an awful quibbler. Before the war he was responsible for the supply of a cavalry unit. Also he was the deputy of his commanding officer. During an absence of his commander he as the maintenance officer wrote a demand for new boots for the soldiers. A soldier took this demand from his office to the office of the commander. Later that day Bragg went to the commander's office to work as his deputy. There he oppened the letter he had written to his commander. He then rejected the request, wrote the rejection on the letter and ordered a soldier to return this demand back to his own office. Reporters became aware of this absurd behavior and half of Washington's newspaper readers shook their heads when reading about it.
John Bell Hood was a brave man but he may have been worse than Bragg.
@@trajan75Hood got promoted beyond his capabilities. Most seem to agree he was a good division commander but was simply unable to operate as an army commander. As can be seen by his performance at Franklin and Nashville.
I think you're right
@@sugarjumper45 I agree completely
Braxton Bragg was a good old boy and a friend of Jeff Davis
What docuseries is this?
I will never understand why General Bragg has a fort named after him anywhere
Do you mean Fort Liberty?
I totally agree out of all generals name of Ford after him he was a loser
Forget about it
As an unapologetic descendant of Confederates I am no fan of Bragg. While the Army of Tennessee had, I believe, an impossible mission, had Davis done in the west what Lincoln did in the east - change out commanders until he found someone who could succeed - I suspect the record in the west would have been less one-sided; that might have kept Grant in the west longer and changed the results in 1864. Fair arguments against my thesis would be the scarcity of Confederate officers with adequate experience to take a shot at leadership in the west, and that Sherman and Thomas were capable of taking over in the west even if the Confederate western campaign had been more successful.
Why is there a fort named for Bragg? A number of bases in the south were named for well-known Confederate generals - Bragg, Lee, Pickett, Hill, Polk, Gordon - to encourage enlistment of Southern boys during the First World War. In retrospect they should have named one for Longstreet, but in 1918 he was still held in disrepute by the Lost Cause school.
@@houstonsam6163 that was a very great perspective. And of course in my studies on the Civil War I know that Bragg at times his senior staff was not very cooperative. Any Confederate commander in the west would have faced the same uphill struggles. A lot of it was the case of a clashing egos and has Samuel Watkins said he didn't think any soldier in that army ever said I loved him. But a very great analysis and getting Southern Boys to join the ranks again
I wonder when there will be a series called "Rosecrans" to celebrate how "The Union Army had move all the way through Tennessee, and captured Chattanooga!"
I don’t think Rosecrans gets the credit due him. He excelled at strategy, led his commands well and usually prevailed. An undeniable asset to the Union cause. Apparently he could be argumentative with other commanders, Grant and Stanton seem to have held a grudge. Sherman fumbled a number of times but Grant seems to have let it slide. Sherman may have been brave and tenacious, but……. After the war Rosecrans was U.S. Minister to Mexico until Grant became President, still holding a grudge.
He was famous as ‘unconditional surrender’ Grant long before this I think they are overplaying it a bit
Grant wasn't brought in to "fix" Chattanoga, he was named commander of the western theater and needed to see what was happening at Chattanoga. Most of the planning was already done before he arrived. Why no mention of the Browns Ferry attack?
If you look beyond the battles, it's clear that what Grant brought to the table was logistics, logistics, logistics.
As someone else noted, the chaos stopped when Grant showed up. Armies coordinated that didnt' before, supplies arrived, got distributed in time. All that mundane stuff let his subordinate generals show _their_ stuff.
The first 3 star General at the time, since George Washington !
Say what you will, but the union NEEDED a man like Grant. And Sherman
Justin Salinger channels U.S. Grant not just portrays him. His is a seamless performance.
My personal opinion is that Grant was much better General than given credit for. Lee was so/so. He was a good offensive commander, but he didn't have but one resource, manpower. It was not renewable. Jackson other than his valley campaign was hit or miss.
"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth." What makes a great general is basically the same thing that makes a great boxer.
Grant and Sherman !! The goats 🐐 of the civil war 🙏🏆🙌🏾👏🏿❤️🇺🇸🔥👍🐐🥃
Grant went from Besieger at Vicksburg to Besieged at Chattanooga
I wanna see the Union army in 1864 that became equipped with breech-loading rifles like the trapdoor, the Joslyn "Joselle" rifle, and the Burnside rifles along with Spencer and Henry rifles as support fire rifles.
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What is the name of this doc? The last good one was ken burns’s. What is this?
Grant, a 3 episode short series from the History Channel
Prof Ethan Rafuse for the win!
Lee won victories, but never bagged whole armies. Grant did. Twice.
343k views... 3k likes... says more than it needs
My great great grandfather and great great great uncle both in the 32nd Tennessee Infantry CSA fought at Lookout Mountain and Missionary Ridge
My great great grandfather and his older brother were two of those guys coming up Missionary Ridge. 97th Ohio.
They Kept on going. Remember Chickamauga! The Army of the Cumberland
I thought Winfield Scott held the rank of (full)general between Washington and Grant?
Scott was officially a Brevet Lieutenant General, essentially his Lt. Gen rank was simply for recognition of his long service and held no real authority as such. Grant's promotion was to a "full" Lieutenant General with all the pay and responsibilities that go with it, as such.
Yeah sort of ,more fluff than anything else ,kinda like getting a gold watch ⌚️ for your service 😮
The men wrote their own orders such that they were willing to do for their leader Grant. The Rebels wrote their own orders too, retreat, because they hated Bragg.
Great content, but the way the guns shoot as a twopart boom throws me off a bit. That'd be fine for flintlocks, but percussion rifles have a characteristic single big boom
What's the title of this documentary?
The American Civil War.
Nope. They did not have an order to attack the top of the ridge, nor was it ever the expectation. Grant simply wanted pressure on the middle of the confederate line to prevent Bragg from shifting forces to meet Sherman. He ordered the seizure of the rifle pits because he thought, erroneously, that Bragg was making such a shift.
The troops who took the ridge had gotten criticized earlier for not standing their ground so they had something to prove.
I've stood at the top of Lookout Mountain. All of Chattanooga lies before you. It's remarkably unchanged from the 1863 pictures. Notwithstanding Bragg's mistake in occupying the Crest, rather than the Military Crest of the ridge, they were brave men that assaulted those ridges.
In my opinion, Thomas would have won at Chattanooga without Grant’s help. Hell, Thomas would have won at Chickamauga if Rosecrans hadn’t have retreated all the way to Chattanooga. Thomas’s soldiers new that when they kicked Bragg’s ass off of the ridge!
One significant reason the assault on Missionary Ridge didn't result in a massacre of the charging Union troops was that the Confederate lines were actually on the very top of Missionary Ridge; a major mistake by the Confederates. Properly, the lines should have been positioned a short distance down from the top to be more in line with the slope of the ridge. The Confederates did not have a clear field of fire, giving the Union troops shelter from the Confederate fire for a good distance up the ridge.
Promoting Grant to Lt. Gen. had to peeve the likes of Halleck & McClellan. Both, as well as others, had considered Grant useless when, after the trials by fire, they themselves proved they were “not up to the arithmetic” (Lincoln’s term for them).
Theres this scene i remember where grant along with his staff and army just stay still staring at the camera in a trench, could anyone help me with this one??
Siege of Petersburg, battle of the crater
Something about this narrative NEVER made sense to me. The Union army retreated from Chickamauga to Chattanooga. Okay I get that. The confederate army followed and occupied the heights around Chattanooga.
Huh? I DONT get that ! When the Union army retreated why didn’t they occupy the heights around Chattanooga? Were they in such disarray and panic that they forgot to dig in on the ridges and very large Lookout mountain around the city?
Fairly much, you named the reasons. The Union Army of the Cumberland was almost completely routed at Chickamauga. Only the rearguard action by Maj. Gen. George Thomas - combined by the fact the Confederate forces were commanded by Gen. Braxton Bragg - kept the Union army from being destroyed as it retreated into Chattanooga. By the time any semblance of military order was restored within the Union forces the Confederates had occupied the heights. In any case, the Union forces didn't have enough men to properly fortify the heights. As it was, the Confederates were spread thin.
@@alabamaal225 That seems to be a logical explanation.
The river of blood was the battle the union army lost before Chattanooga
3CBCO wrote "...against a strongly fortified, and nearly unassailable position..." What he left out is it's easy for Grant to look like a great leader when Thomas' men out-numbered the enemy 10 to 1 and most of the rifle-pits were empty. Grant won his campaigns because he was the only Union leader (bringing Sherman and Sheridan up the chain-of-command with him) who understood he had overwhelming numbers. The Union had an almost inexhaustible supply of soldiers; Grant described the South has having a thick crust but hollow on the inside. Grant used the advantage he had, and was willing to pay the butcher's bill - with other people's blood - to the point that in northern Virginia he gave the order to attack and his men refused. This eventually led to almost of year of trench warfare when he could have out-flanked Lee at any time; using those extra men he knew he had.
You think McClellan couldn't add?
In the end, you fall into the trap of too many Civil War buffs. You assume there was a cheaper way to win the war. What do you think Grant's predecessors were doing? They were trying to find that cheaper way. They weren't bad men. They just couldn't face up to the war as it actually was. Nobody did really, not at first. It was unprecedented in scope.
Grant could. Sherman could. As as result, they ended the war in a year. A very bloody year, but they _ended_ it. The others dithered and despite this, we still had lots of big battles with lots of casualties that lead nowhere.
Did Grant have his failings? He did. Cold Harbor was a big mistake. But he also learned and adapted. Better than his predecessors who limped home after every defeat, which insured a lot of wasted lives.
If you look at the overall numbers, Grant is much better than commonly supposed and often enough without overwhelming numbers, either. He did not simply throw away men to the degree commonly supposed. For the most part, he got _progress_ for the men he lost. Can't really say that for his predecessors -- or even for R. E. Lee in the end.
And did any of Grant's predecessors did any better ?
Grant's predecessors are use to a pristine kind of war and try to dance daintly with Lee. This actually costed more time and lives lost unnecessarily. They would invade, lose a battle (or win like Gettysburg), then retreat and let Lee recuperate. They were too skittish and prudent.
Grant meanwhile decided "F this shit" and hit Lee with his advantages. Grant often tried to flank Lee when he could but Lee has the benefit of being on the defensive.
Lee may not be great strategically, but he still has some talent tactically. So it' idiotic for Grant to play to his opponent's advantage.
Did Thomas' men keep attacking up the ridge so that they could get above the clouds and see who the hell they were fighting?
No. That was Hooker on the right flank attacking Lookout Mountain.
General Thomas was probably the most sound union General and Patrick Cleburne was for the sound Winfield Hancock was great many more like chamberlain and Alabama’s General Gordon
Huzzah!
Grant actor makes this watchable ...very difficult to get historical figure right in film 🎥 world ...congratulations team
This is a much better story than is told here. Hooker's men had come in from the East. Sherman's men had come in from the West. Thomas's men were the ones who had just been defeated at Chickamauga and they had a chip on their shoulders. They were given the worst terrain to attack as not much was expected of them. The CSA leaders did not expect much either so they felt they could move troops away from this naturally defended area.
Sometimes troops just take the bit in their teeth and do unexpected things. And a lucky general gets to take credit for it. No shade on Grant.
Nicely written. But, I think the story comes through even if it was under-told compared to your nice work here.
Give the credit where the credit is due … not to Grant, but to George Thomas!
*CHICKAMAUGA! CHICKAMAUGA! CHICKAMAUGA!*
They’re saying Chattanooga wrong and it is annoying me
It’s not as wrong as it could be but it could be better lol
Nobody cares about a random place in the middle of nowhere. If it makes you feel any better, people back then would've pronounced it wrongly too.
Your dad is also your uncle .
@@SStupendous what do you mean random place in the middle of nowhere 💀 half a million people live in the Chattanooga metro
It's known as the 'scenic center of the south' and located where the Tennessee River, one of America's great inland rivers, flows south into northeast Alabama. As mentioned in the video, it is a strategic railroad junction necessary for commerce flowing back and forth across the Appalachian Mountains from the coasts to the interior.
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What is that pronunciation of Chattanooga lol. As someone that lives there it isn’t great.
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How about a doc on General Hooker?😂
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This is misleading already and I'm less than 1 minute into it. They reference the union army moving into Georgia and then retreating as a "HUGE victory" for the confederates. However, it was a pyrrhic victory at best. The conferderacy lost a ton of guys at Chickamauga. Arguably, their desired outcome was damned after that battle. Historians just repeat what other historians say despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Chickamauga was not a victory for the union, but it damn sure wasn't one for the conferdates either. The Union went on to capture Atlanta. It was a lost cause for the confederates. We shouldn't worship Grant either. It was generals like Thomas and other lesser known Union generals that won that war.
Grant gets credit for one, important, forgotten thing. He made sure that the attacks were coordinated. Surprisingly enough, until Grant, some Union units attacked while others regrouped. Grant made sure everyone was engaged, pretty much all the time. This prevented the south from moving units around from theater to theater, making up in part for their smaller numbers.
With Grant running things, this tactic simply stopped and it really mattered because every southern general now had to live or die with their regular commands, with no temporary reinforcements from elsewhere.
Well, is not all war pyrhic for the ones who grieve?
Chickamaugua was so fierce because Longstreet hit so hard. The confidence in all southern arms with Lee's old war horse present for battle was overwhelming to all but Thomas's Corps. Thomas certainly gets credit from those who know just like Hancock is known but just not by those who can't tell the Johnston's apart🤣
Attacked without orders....just so damn American 😑
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Chattanooga resident here, it's pronounced Chatt-a-noo-ga not Chat-nooga
republicans love that middle name stuff
Yeah , confederates didnt win chickamauga at all. The union withdrew.
Are yall complaining about the pronunciation of some two horse town?
Two-horse town? It seemed important enough to the Union, didn't it, or did you bother watching the video?
It's known as the 'scenic center of the south' and located where the Tennessee River, one of America's great inland rivers, flows south into northeast Alabama. As mentioned in the video, it is a strategic railroad junction necessary for commerce flowing back and forth across the Appalachian Mountains from the coasts to the interior.
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