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So, when will any of Saburo Sakai's battles get this kind of treatment? One that would be interesting is the chase a Chinese biplane gave him. Time and again Sakai got the biplane in his sights, only to see it roll away before he could pull his trigger. But finally, the Chinese pilot screwed up, possibly from fatigue. He didn't turn fast enough, leaving the bottom of his plane presented. Sakai barely touched his trigger, firing just two rounds from each of his plane's guns. All four hit the Chinese plane beneath its cockpit and it went down. Another good one to see would be Sakai's first victory. He used all his ammunition but shot down one Chinese plane. His commanding officer was so furious he just turned his back on Sakai. The order was to *never use all your ammunition* because you might get jumped by the enemy on the way back to base. A third one would be when Sakai was attacked by a squadron of inexperienced American pilots in (IIRC) Corsairs. They kept wheeling around, taking turns lining up and shooting at Sakai. Every time he'd roll away, the same way every time. All it would've taken was for one of the Americans to aim just to the side where Sakai would roll and he'd have flown right into the bullets. Eventually the Americans broke off their attack. Was it boredom? Lack of ammunition? Low on fuel? Or were they just toying with a lone Japanese Zero-Sen they'd come across, not knowing they had the chance to shoot down one of Japan's few remaining top pilots?
Highly doubt the p-39 had altitude warning alarms... also, first thing the Russians did when they received the 39, was removing the wing .30 cals. Other than that, not bad of a scene. Better than red tails having the a P-51 turning like they have thrust vectoring.
Very few aircraft, allied or axis, could hope to reign in a Allison Airacobra or Mustang scared and wide open on the deck. The Allison was a wicked low altitude performer.
American pilots hated the P39 and gave it nicknames like the "iron dog" but from what I understand its problems came from the fact that during its acceptance trials the air force brass forced many performance destroying modifications on it. And the reason the company didn't fight back (which would have been normal) was because it was so close to bankruptcy just before the war. I suspect however that many of the fighters the Soviets used were sub par but in an existential war like the eastern front you do the best you can with what you've got.
The P-39 was not a bad aircraft by any means, it was utilized improperly early in the Pacific Theater. The P-63 was quite a monster and had one of the fastest climb rates of all piston fighters during WW2. The Russians utilized both with great success.
@@walterswarhistoryarchive The P39 was a piece of shit. All the Japanese had to do is fly above it at 15,000 feet and wait for it to run out of fuel then dive down and blow it away. Unlike the Russians, the Americans did not fight the Germans outside their front door and can't shake off 109s by flying under bridges. Instead, they were intercepting Japanese bomber formations at high altitudes over an ocean filled with hungry sharks or mosquitos infested jungles. So considering the P39 lack of a super charger and a gas tank a size of a coffee cup, every time an American pilot jumps into a P39 his time and life was wasted.
@@Zetler their misuse doesn't really make it a POS though, that's like saying the spitfire was crap as a whole because the seafire didn't work. The P39 has done well enough for itself on other fronts to gain its place.
Watch "Brest Fortress", when Hitler launches his attack on Soviet Union, Soilders hold on to a fortress for 3 months untill the last defenders gets killed except one.
@@SmedleyDouwright I also thought that the P39 had 2 of its 50's in the wings and 2 firing through the prop, this looks like they're firing all 4 from wing mounts
@@ivanthemadvandal8435 yeaha its cause it is the p39n variant if i recall or maybe k the thing is that onoly 2 on the side of the wings are 7.62mm and the 4 are 12.7 or 50 cals plus the 37mm
@@ivanthemadvandal8435 and also im not sure but i think the 37mm was used for ground targets maybe infantry or convoys or maybe other im not sure if it was used in dogfights but yeah
@@walterswarhistoryarchive I wanna see that too man check out my UA-cam page I got some cool dogfight videos I made and replaced all sounds effects I need feedback I wanna see what people think
Some of the best Soviet aces in the P-39 Airacobra were Alexander Ivanovich Pokryshkin, Grigoriy Andreevich Rechkalov, Nikolai Dmitriivich Gulayev, and even Alexander Fyodorovich Klubov.
The popularity of P-39 among Soviet pilots was somewhat unexpected for US leaders. However, after the Soviet Union began to purposefully demand continued deliveries of P-39 in ever-increasing quantities, the production of more and more new models of this fighter began specifically for the needs of the Eastern Front.
Great special effects. The thought of a P39 dogfighting a 190 and not getting slaughtered is pure sci-fi but there you are. When the 190 appeared over the Channel the RAF considered grounding their Spit Mk V's because they were so outclassed.
I mean it did and came out on top quite often. Up high fw190 almost always wins, but that's not where the fighting was taking place. At lower altitudes the p39 has better turn, speed, climb, and energy retention.
@@ZackSavage At high altitudes the FW 190's performance also tailed off. It's why BF109's were specifically employed for high-altitudes in an attempt to take on Allied fighter escorts while the 190's went straight for the bombers. At lower altitudes few planes in the west could out-turn it until '43. The fact that the P-39 could turn with it at lower altitudes is amazing to me (I had to look it up). I had no idea !
@@michaelforsythe4335 The 39 was unpopular with the Americans because of the altitude and fuel issues. those are massive factors over the ocean. the Russians didnt have those concerns, so the strengths of the 39 really came through for them.
Uhh.. what? This scene clearly shows the P39 superiour low altitude handling. There's a reason why the P39 was so liked by Soviet pilots and why they were using it even in 1945. Also, you can litteraly see P39's getting shot down in this scene, so what are you on about? Also, many soviet aircraft could easily outturn the Fw 190. Every single Yak fighter had a better turning rate. Fw 190 A-8 (1944) - Turning rate of 24.2 s at sea level Yak-9 (1944) - Turning rate of 17.5 s at sea level P39-N0 (Aircraft shown in the video) - Turning rate of 18 s at sea level Both the Yak and the P39 can easily outturn the 190, as could be seen in this scene. Fw 190 A-8 max speed: 653 km/h Yak-9 max speed: 698 km/h P39-N0 max speed: 641 km/h The 190 was faster than the P39, but the Yak-9 is faster than the 190. As you saw in the scene, the 190 went faster than the P39. The P39 and 190 still had similair speeds however and the superiour turning performance of the 39 meant it still had an edge in dogfights. Armament: P39-N0 - 1x 37mm cannon in the nose, 2x 50. cal machine guns in the nose + 4x 30. cal machine guns in the wings (Soviet pilots would often remove these) Yak-9 - Every variant had big differences in armament (with some having 3x 20mm or a 37mm gun along with a 50. cal). We'll go with the basic armament of 1x 23mm cannon and 2x 12.7mm machine guns which was mainly used in earlier Yak-9 variants. Fw-190 A-8 - 4x 20mm cannons and 2x 13mm machine guns. While the Fw 190 wins in this category, the additional armament meant worse flight performance. You can't use your guns if you can't get on the enemies six. Still, it's armament is quite devastating. The P39 could definitely stand up against the Focke Wulf 190, with similair top speed and a better turning performance the P39 had a huge edge in dogfights.
@@ZackSavage it had IFF equipment with early self-destruction unit in it. It was unusable for soviets, it was secret, so they didnt wanted germans to put their hands on it in the case of downing the plane and it was a dead weight, so its totally understandable that soviets removed it...
This movie is based on a true story, during nazi captivity in concentration camp, a downed Soviet pow fighter pilot manages to steals a (Hienkel-111) a German Bomber with 5 other pow inmates and flies back east....
There's only small mistake in the movie. The Soviets removed the wing-mounted .50cals and only relied on the nose-mounted guns, especially the 37mm cannon. Soviet pilots disliked wing-mounted stuff.
That's right, they usually yanked the wing guns to reduce rotational inertia and increase roll rate. Stripped Soviet Airacobras with just the dual .50's and the 37mm were some of the best of their breed.
Correction: the P39 shown here had .30 cal machine guns in the wings. The P39 never had 4 50. cals in the wings, but later variants did have 2 50. cals in the wings.
Because the 37 had very few shots compared to the 50s and 30s and was better used against bigger targets like bombers or ground targets. Frankly using the 37 on a fighter is not only overkill if it hits, but the shots could also be more difficult to hit due to the cannon’s slow rate of fire and limited ammunition, especially against a fast and nimble target. Better to use the much faster firing MGs that have way more ammo against fast, maneuvering fighters and reserve the cannon for when it’s actually needed.
@@zachboyd4749 again, you do not know how movies work, look up what a documentary is then realize that things that are not documentaries work differently
The problem was,that,because engine,located behind pilot's cockpit,P-39 had displaced center of weight,it affected P-39's maneuverability,and made "Airacobra" very unusual to handle for american pilots,that had no experience with such airplanes.Soviet pilots,on the other hand, didn't have such problems,because a lots of them had the experience of handling Polikarpov I-16,that,as much,as P-39,also had displaced center of weight,so,for soviet pilots,handling P-39 was like coming back to I-16,in its faster,and better armed version.
How many times have I ended up in this situation in warthunder in a Bf109E3. Except I die 80% of the time like they knew exactly how I move my throttle.
scenes from a blockbuster movie are not "historic" and can't be protected due to "historical significance" trying that to get away with copyright is not going to work. It amazes me how many people think that writing "fair use" or "for entertainment purpose" is going to magically keep them from getting a copyright strike.
3:25 Маневр "верхний йо-йо" - классика для подлова на вираже...... FW-190 пытался выполнить именно этот маневр - слишком предсказуемо, и именно поэтому первый самолет встал в вираж - причем предупредил заранее о том, что будет выполнять вираж, чтобы второй самолет мог подловить FW -190 именно на выполнении маневра "верхний йо-йо" - перехват на вираже.
"The "upper yo-yo" maneuver is a classic for catching on a turn ...... The FW-190 tried to perform exactly this maneuver - too predictably, and that is why the first plane went into a turn - and warned in advance that it would perform a turn , so that the second aircraft could catch the FW -190 precisely while performing the "upper yo-yo" maneuver - interception on a turn."
The P-39 had an "aerodynamically unstable design" with a rearward center of gravity, which provided excellent maneuverability. But this same property of the aircraft - aerodynamic instability, led to a great tendency to spin. Accordingly, such aircraft were preferred only by real air aces.
Some of the best Soviet aces in the P-39 Airacobra were Alexander Ivanovich Pokryshkin, Nikolai Dmitriievich Gulayev, and Grigoriy Andreevich Rechkalov. Alexander Ivanovich Pokryshkin and La-7 Ace Ivan Nikitovich Kozhedub we’re the only Soviet aces to be awarded Hero of the Soviet Union three times.
@@srcreeper02550 soviets pilots used 37mm, 23mm, 20mm etc on their Yak's against other aircraft, not just ground attack (although that was the reason the 37mm was mounted on Yak's) so it would make sense for the pilot in this scene to make use of the 37mm
At 1:29 the aeroplane model looks very much like one you'd find in Il-2 Battle of Kuban. Maybe the people that made the model for that video game got approached by the people that made this movie. Doesn't seem that odd considering they're probably both Russian.
Показан с некоторыми художествеными "украшательствами" бой звена с двумя Аэрокобрами в своём составе. Другие машины - советские истребители собственного производства. Теперь всё то же самое без радиосвязи и вертикальной маневрености Аэрокобры ? Поэтому быстрый перехват верхнего горизонта над тремя километрами был желателен и обязателен. Немцы, видя потери боестолкновения, быстро уходили вверх и атаковали практически беспригрышно из под Солнца. Этажерка учитывала этот приём двумя верхними горизонтами собственного построения. Так же Мессершмитты воевали даже с Мустангами, даже в конце войны. Но, из-за способности двигателей Мустангов не терять небходимую тягу даже при потере высоты и скорости, Мустанги "прижимались" к земле и "медленно" делали горизонтальные виражи на низкой высоте, что крайне затрудняло борьбу с ними. Этого не позволял делать с собой Гром P-47, из-за другой инженерии, сверхмощного вооружения и применения, столь низкую потерю высоты он бы не выдержал. Поэтому они действовали ниже Мустангов группами, которые их прикрывали непосредственно с верхних горизонтов, занимаясь штурмовкой и встречая потерявшего высоту или снизившегося пртотивника. P-47 и сам мог быть сверхманевренным средневысотным и высотным истребителем, просто в таких построениях важнее были его функции как штурмовика в группах с бомбардировщиками. Не стиль Этажерки, но принцип построения аналогичный.
I agree. Filmmakers don’t always do the best job of rendering realism, but at least they are getting younger generations interested in important historical events.
US had a totally different fighter doctrine than the Soviets. Most Dogfighting over the eastern front was at low altitude, in which the P-39 excelled with the Allison engine.
El P39 a baja altitud era mejor que los messerchmit y fue un avión apreciado por la cantidad de cosas que innovó y por su cañón de 37 que tanto admiraban los soviéticos. Stalin le pidió a Rooselvelt, que sólo quería Airacobras, hasta tal punto que Bell abrió una factoría en Moscú, y mejoró el avión a criterio de los pilotos soviéticos. El P 51, copió su forma.
@@MiG-31893 I'd still rather fly the p47. I prefer the rugged design and survivability ...better dive rate and higher altitude performance as well as the 8 .50's over the canon and the p39
@@davy1458 yes but just being survivable isn’t everything, I mean who are you fighting? Zeros and FW190s? They have 20mm that would shred the p-47. I would prefer to destroy what I hit in one shot and be maneuverable to evade shots. P-47 was also primarily ground attack remember
@@MiG-31893 yeah they say that but the p47 bore the brunt of the war in Eastern Europe until higher numbers of p51s made it to the European theater and there are plenty of p47 pilots from ww2 who say they wouldn't have wanted to fly any other plane....I think it just comes down to personal preferences and the talent and skills of a particular pilot. I think it comes down to being more about the pilot than the plane.
Yeah, they were called reflector sights. Later war ones were even fancier. They made a trail effect in the HUD that calculated and visually displayed bullet leading position and gravity. They were called gryo sights
@@pppppffffffmmmmmmmnn i think gyro sight dont calculate. They just react on to g force and direction of gravity... moreless like the virtual horizon instrument.
Based on what we’ve heard from American pilots at the outset of World War 2, one would think the P-39 is a complete deathtrap. The P-39 N and Q’s were actually on par with or better than 109’s and 190’s at low altitudes. The Russians removed the wing guns and some of the radio equipment to improve their performance. The P-39 also earned the distinction of having the highest kill count of all American allied fighters in World War 2.
@@walterswarhistoryarchive Looks like they'd be hard to bail out of, with the car style doors that hinge forwards and only one door having an inside latch handle. IIRC the car style doors had something to do with Nash building the cockpit sections.
The moment Allison (The P-39's engine manufacturer) sent out a note explaining that they could run the engines at around 60" of manifold pressure for the same fuel really changed all that. The Airacobra went from 1200 hp to 1600 hp with just that change.
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На P-39 воевал ЛУЧШИЙ АС СССР - Александр Иванович Покрышкин, ТРИЖДЫ Герой Советского Союза, лучший методист и теоретик воздушного боя! "Аэрокобра" - ПРЕКРАСНАЯ МАШИНА, благодарность ИНЖЕНЕРАМ США
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So, when will any of Saburo Sakai's battles get this kind of treatment? One that would be interesting is the chase a Chinese biplane gave him. Time and again Sakai got the biplane in his sights, only to see it roll away before he could pull his trigger. But finally, the Chinese pilot screwed up, possibly from fatigue. He didn't turn fast enough, leaving the bottom of his plane presented. Sakai barely touched his trigger, firing just two rounds from each of his plane's guns. All four hit the Chinese plane beneath its cockpit and it went down. Another good one to see would be Sakai's first victory. He used all his ammunition but shot down one Chinese plane. His commanding officer was so furious he just turned his back on Sakai. The order was to *never use all your ammunition* because you might get jumped by the enemy on the way back to base. A third one would be when Sakai was attacked by a squadron of inexperienced American pilots in (IIRC) Corsairs. They kept wheeling around, taking turns lining up and shooting at Sakai. Every time he'd roll away, the same way every time. All it would've taken was for one of the Americans to aim just to the side where Sakai would roll and he'd have flown right into the bullets. Eventually the Americans broke off their attack. Was it boredom? Lack of ammunition? Low on fuel? Or were they just toying with a lone Japanese Zero-Sen they'd come across, not knowing they had the chance to shoot down one of Japan's few remaining top pilots?
I've always loved the look of the P-39. Underappreciated, but a great fighter at low altitude.
Warthunder?
Ya and p40
Yeah that 37mm slaps hard af
One of the few aircraft that could outturn a BF-109 in a low-spees low altitude dogfight. Even the P-51 couldn't pull that one off.
Highly doubt the p-39 had altitude warning alarms... also, first thing the Russians did when they received the 39, was removing the wing .30 cals. Other than that, not bad of a scene. Better than red tails having the a P-51 turning like they have thrust vectoring.
this is indeed possible and was used by a real tuskegge pilot.
they used War Thunder for this brother lmao
@@srcreeper02550 I'm assuming that's sarcasm, but I don't even know anymore with people these days...
@@timothynguyen6244 hell naw
@@-Zevin- research redtails for 5 minutes and you will stop saying this nonsense
Best simulated air combat video with the P -39 ever. Bravo to the editor and xf people.
This movie "devataev"
The P39 could kick ass on the deck , the bad rap was only for high altitude. Down low she could hold her own.
Very few aircraft, allied or axis, could hope to reign in a Allison Airacobra or Mustang scared and wide open on the deck. The Allison was a wicked low altitude performer.
@@calebrambis1775 yes she was ! 👍
American pilots hated the P39 and gave it nicknames like the "iron dog" but from what I understand its problems came from the fact that during its acceptance trials the air force brass forced many performance destroying modifications on it. And the reason the company didn't fight back (which would have been normal) was because it was so close to bankruptcy just before the war. I suspect however that many of the fighters the Soviets used were sub par but in an existential war like the eastern front you do the best you can with what you've got.
And another factor is the Russians didn't fight at high altitude, the P39 was an excellent performing aircraft at low altitude
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The P-39 was not a bad aircraft by any means, it was utilized improperly early in the Pacific Theater. The P-63 was quite a monster and had one of the fastest climb rates of all piston fighters during WW2. The Russians utilized both with great success.
@@walterswarhistoryarchive The P39 was a piece of shit. All the Japanese had to do is fly above it at 15,000 feet and wait for it to run out of fuel then dive down and blow it away. Unlike the Russians, the Americans did not fight the Germans outside their front door and can't shake off 109s by flying under bridges. Instead, they were intercepting Japanese bomber formations at high altitudes over an ocean filled with hungry sharks or mosquitos infested jungles. So considering the P39 lack of a super charger and a gas tank a size of a coffee cup, every time an American pilot jumps into a P39 his time and life was wasted.
@@Zetler their misuse doesn't really make it a POS though, that's like saying the spitfire was crap as a whole because the seafire didn't work. The P39 has done well enough for itself on other fronts to gain its place.
Damn the Russians are making some kick ass action movies
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Watch "Brest Fortress", when Hitler launches his attack on Soviet Union, Soilders hold on to a fortress for 3 months untill the last defenders gets killed except one.
Strange how they're blazing away with 50's but didn't show off more unique 37mm cannon in the spinner
Ya, I was waiting for the pilot to use the cannon, and then a big boom!
@@SmedleyDouwright I also thought that the P39 had 2 of its 50's in the wings and 2 firing through the prop, this looks like they're firing all 4 from wing mounts
@@ivanthemadvandal8435 didnt it had 6 mgs
@@ivanthemadvandal8435 yeaha its cause it is the p39n variant if i recall or maybe k the thing is that onoly 2 on the side of the wings are 7.62mm and the 4 are 12.7 or 50 cals plus the 37mm
@@ivanthemadvandal8435 and also im not sure but i think the 37mm was used for ground targets maybe infantry or convoys or maybe other im not sure if it was used in dogfights but yeah
Best dogfight I’ve seen makes redtails look like a joke
Sure does! Most of the more recent hollywood WW2 movies have been disappointing.
@@walterswarhistoryarchive yes that’s true there not as good as they use to be
I’m looking forward to Masters of the Air. Currently, it’s set to be released in November.
@@walterswarhistoryarchive I wanna see that too man check out my UA-cam page I got some cool dogfight videos I made and replaced all sounds effects I need feedback I wanna see what people think
Just posted a new P-39 clip from the movie.
At least someone figured out how to make good use of P-39s.
As a maneuvering fighter, it is superior to many of its other american contemporaries. For the eastern front conditions, I would have it over a P-51
The P-39 was so underrated
We like P-39’s!
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Underrated lil workhorse
What is the name of movie?
This is stunning, excellent choreography all around, superb work!
Some of the best Soviet aces in the P-39 Airacobra were Alexander Ivanovich Pokryshkin, Grigoriy Andreevich Rechkalov, Nikolai Dmitriivich Gulayev, and even Alexander Fyodorovich Klubov.
The P-39 Airacobra wasn't very popular with the United States during WWII so the United States gave 5000 to 6000 P-39 Airacobras to the Soviet Union.
The popularity of P-39 among Soviet pilots was somewhat unexpected for US leaders. However, after the Soviet Union began to purposefully demand continued deliveries of P-39 in ever-increasing quantities, the production of more and more new models of this fighter began specifically for the needs of the Eastern Front.
Finally this underrated warbird getting some love!
Раньше союзниками были, а щас русским пакости делаете,причем чужими руками..
Almost feels like someone made cinematic montage of IL-2 great battles gameplay in some scenes.
Well that was ...AWESOME
Strange scene. On one hand there are alot of things they got right but on the other hand there are alot more things that they got wrong.
Great special effects. The thought of a P39 dogfighting a 190 and not getting slaughtered is pure sci-fi but there you are. When the 190 appeared over the Channel the RAF considered grounding their Spit Mk V's because they were so outclassed.
I mean it did and came out on top quite often. Up high fw190 almost always wins, but that's not where the fighting was taking place. At lower altitudes the p39 has better turn, speed, climb, and energy retention.
@@ZackSavage At high altitudes the FW 190's performance also tailed off. It's why BF109's were specifically employed for high-altitudes in an attempt to take on Allied fighter escorts while the 190's went straight for the bombers. At lower altitudes few planes in the west could out-turn it until '43. The fact that the P-39 could turn with it at lower altitudes is amazing to me (I had to look it up). I had no idea !
@@michaelforsythe4335 The 39 was unpopular with the Americans because of the altitude and fuel issues. those are massive factors over the ocean. the Russians didnt have those concerns, so the strengths of the 39 really came through for them.
Uhh.. what? This scene clearly shows the P39 superiour low altitude handling. There's a reason why the P39 was so liked by Soviet pilots and why they were using it even in 1945. Also, you can litteraly see P39's getting shot down in this scene, so what are you on about? Also, many soviet aircraft could easily outturn the Fw 190. Every single Yak fighter had a better turning rate.
Fw 190 A-8 (1944) - Turning rate of 24.2 s at sea level
Yak-9 (1944) - Turning rate of 17.5 s at sea level
P39-N0 (Aircraft shown in the video) - Turning rate of 18 s at sea level
Both the Yak and the P39 can easily outturn the 190, as could be seen in this scene.
Fw 190 A-8 max speed: 653 km/h
Yak-9 max speed: 698 km/h
P39-N0 max speed: 641 km/h
The 190 was faster than the P39, but the Yak-9 is faster than the 190. As you saw in the scene, the 190 went faster than the P39. The P39 and 190 still had similair speeds however and the superiour turning performance of the 39 meant it still had an edge in dogfights.
Armament:
P39-N0 - 1x 37mm cannon in the nose, 2x 50. cal machine guns in the nose + 4x 30. cal machine guns in the wings (Soviet pilots would often remove these)
Yak-9 - Every variant had big differences in armament (with some having 3x 20mm or a 37mm gun along with a 50. cal). We'll go with the basic armament of 1x 23mm cannon and 2x 12.7mm machine guns which was mainly used in earlier Yak-9 variants.
Fw-190 A-8 - 4x 20mm cannons and 2x 13mm machine guns.
While the Fw 190 wins in this category, the additional armament meant worse flight performance. You can't use your guns if you can't get on the enemies six. Still, it's armament is quite devastating.
The P39 could definitely stand up against the Focke Wulf 190, with similair top speed and a better turning performance the P39 had a huge edge in dogfights.
1:36 What is that blipping? :D Sounds suspiciously modern haha
The 39 was suprisingly modern. it even had IFF equipment in it. granted the Russians being Russians removed it for weight reasons.
@@ZackSavage it had IFF equipment with early self-destruction unit in it. It was unusable for soviets, it was secret, so they didnt wanted germans to put their hands on it in the case of downing the plane and it was a dead weight, so its totally understandable that soviets removed it...
Gotta love the P-39
Damn now I want to play some ll2 sturmovik games
There's no wing guns in the Soviet Airacobras
This movie is based on a true story, during nazi captivity in concentration camp, a downed Soviet pow fighter pilot manages to steals a (Hienkel-111) a German Bomber with 5 other pow inmates and flies back east....
Think the movie is called 'Escape from Hell'. on release in April next year...
The visuals are very well done and its a good film overall, but I think something more realistic would be greater
There's only small mistake in the movie. The Soviets removed the wing-mounted .50cals and only relied on the nose-mounted guns, especially the 37mm cannon. Soviet pilots disliked wing-mounted stuff.
that explains a lot
That's right, they usually yanked the wing guns to reduce rotational inertia and increase roll rate. Stripped Soviet Airacobras with just the dual .50's and the 37mm were some of the best of their breed.
@@calebrambis1775 yes, some kept them though. One of the Russian aces didn’t mind the .30cals
Correction: the P39 shown here had .30 cal machine guns in the wings. The P39 never had 4 50. cals in the wings, but later variants did have 2 50. cals in the wings.
The one time we can actually thank Russia for their war efforts
there were many more but you probably never heard of them since you are saying what you are saying.
@@urdnotwrex6969 you’re probably right
I'd like too see it if it ever has an English dubbed release but why put the P39 in and not show it using the 37mm?
Because the 37 had very few shots compared to the 50s and 30s and was better used against bigger targets like bombers or ground targets. Frankly using the 37 on a fighter is not only overkill if it hits, but the shots could also be more difficult to hit due to the cannon’s slow rate of fire and limited ammunition, especially against a fast and nimble target. Better to use the much faster firing MGs that have way more ammo against fast, maneuvering fighters and reserve the cannon for when it’s actually needed.
@@zachboyd4749 surely you know how movies work right?
@@robbybee70
It’s a movie based on history. They have to portray those people and planes as they would’ve behaved back then.
@@zachboyd4749 again, you do not know how movies work, look up what a documentary is then realize that things that are not documentaries work differently
Soviet pilotes quite loved the P 39
It was one of their favorites
As with many planes, there were pilots who lůoved P-39 but also such who hated it.
Soviet P-39s had no wing guns. The Soviet ground crew always removeed the wing guns to improve manoeuvrability first thing.
Any links where I can download the full movie?
The problem was,that,because engine,located behind pilot's cockpit,P-39 had displaced center of weight,it affected P-39's maneuverability,and made "Airacobra" very unusual to handle for american pilots,that had no experience with such airplanes.Soviet pilots,on the other hand, didn't have such problems,because a lots of them had the experience of handling Polikarpov I-16,that,as much,as P-39,also had displaced center of weight,so,for soviet pilots,handling P-39 was like coming back to I-16,in its faster,and better armed version.
How many times have I ended up in this situation in warthunder in a Bf109E3. Except I die 80% of the time like they knew exactly how I move my throttle.
If it was to a p39 then that checks out. p39 had a better turn rate the the 109
Of course my most favorite WWII fighter plane was the P-40 Warhawk
scenes from a blockbuster movie are not "historic" and can't be protected due to "historical significance" trying that to get away with copyright is not going to work. It amazes me how many people think that writing "fair use" or "for entertainment purpose" is going to magically keep them from getting a copyright strike.
Not sure the Russians are going to be claiming this copyright anytime soon tho.
What's the name of this movie please
Fantastic !!!!!!
wow!!!
3:25 Маневр "верхний йо-йо" - классика для подлова на вираже...... FW-190 пытался выполнить именно этот маневр - слишком предсказуемо, и именно поэтому первый самолет встал в вираж - причем предупредил заранее о том, что будет выполнять вираж, чтобы второй самолет мог подловить FW -190 именно на выполнении маневра "верхний йо-йо" - перехват на вираже.
"The "upper yo-yo" maneuver is a classic for catching on a turn ...... The FW-190 tried to perform exactly this maneuver - too predictably, and that is why the first plane went into a turn - and warned in advance that it would perform a turn , so that the second aircraft could catch the FW -190 precisely while performing the "upper yo-yo" maneuver - interception on a turn."
Soviet pilot : I dont understand why americans hate this plane
The P-39 had an "aerodynamically unstable design" with a rearward center of gravity, which provided excellent maneuverability. But this same property of the aircraft - aerodynamic instability, led to a great tendency to spin. Accordingly, such aircraft were preferred only by real air aces.
Some of the best Soviet aces in the P-39 Airacobra were Alexander Ivanovich Pokryshkin, Nikolai Dmitriievich Gulayev, and Grigoriy Andreevich Rechkalov. Alexander Ivanovich Pokryshkin and La-7 Ace Ivan Nikitovich Kozhedub we’re the only Soviet aces to be awarded Hero of the Soviet Union three times.
There are 29 Soviet pilots with 15 or more victories on the Cobra
That was totally decent
Nicely done. 👍
Thank you!
Name of the movie ?
Escape from Hell or девятаев
i almost thought this is war thunder trailer for Russian p-39 airacobra
Ah yes the p 39 definitely the best turn fighter of ww2
thats not what they said
I mean I wouldn't call it the best. It was a better turn fighter than anything Germany had though.
Turn rate P39-N0 at sea level: 18 s
Turn rate Fw 190 A-8 at sea level: 24.2 s
Where can I download the full movie with english subtitles? I have tried to find it for a long time and still nothing.
I have a copy, but youtube wouldn’t let me post it.
@@walterswarhistoryarchive From where did you download it?
@@kobac5282 If you managed to find it, please post a link, Ive been searching for ages!
I'm pretty sure the p 39 had like a 37mm cannon in the nose didn't it? I wonder why it's not shown here?
was only used for ground attack
@@srcreeper02550 soviets pilots used 37mm, 23mm, 20mm etc on their Yak's against other aircraft, not just ground attack (although that was the reason the 37mm was mounted on Yak's) so it would make sense for the pilot in this scene to make use of the 37mm
@@srcreeper02550 p-39 didnt use it the 37 for ground attack. it was used for bomber (mostly stuka) swatting.
Full movie please!
At 1:29 the aeroplane model looks very much like one you'd find in Il-2 Battle of Kuban.
Maybe the people that made the model for that video game got approached by the people that made this movie. Doesn't seem that odd considering they're probably both Russian.
IIRC either 777, Gaijin or both were involved in the sfx for this film.
Interesting svene
Показан с некоторыми художествеными "украшательствами" бой звена с двумя Аэрокобрами в своём составе. Другие машины - советские истребители собственного производства. Теперь всё то же самое без радиосвязи и вертикальной маневрености Аэрокобры ? Поэтому быстрый перехват верхнего горизонта над тремя километрами был желателен и обязателен. Немцы, видя потери боестолкновения, быстро уходили вверх и атаковали практически беспригрышно из под Солнца. Этажерка учитывала этот приём двумя верхними горизонтами собственного построения. Так же Мессершмитты воевали даже с Мустангами, даже в конце войны. Но, из-за способности двигателей Мустангов не терять небходимую тягу даже при потере высоты и скорости, Мустанги "прижимались" к земле и "медленно" делали горизонтальные виражи на низкой высоте, что крайне затрудняло борьбу с ними. Этого не позволял делать с собой Гром P-47, из-за другой инженерии, сверхмощного вооружения и применения, столь низкую потерю высоты он бы не выдержал. Поэтому они действовали ниже Мустангов группами, которые их прикрывали непосредственно с верхних горизонтов, занимаясь штурмовкой и встречая потерявшего высоту или снизившегося пртотивника. P-47 и сам мог быть сверхманевренным средневысотным и высотным истребителем, просто в таких построениях важнее были его функции как штурмовика в группах с бомбардировщиками. Не стиль Этажерки, но принцип построения аналогичный.
Eric Hartman says hello 👋
Как называется это фильм
Не могли бы вы прислать мне ссылку на фильм
Всегда хотел посмотреть этот фильм, но не получается получить доступ
Торрент в помощь
What movie is this from?
Девятаев
V2 Escape from hell
Does any one have the english subtitles for the full movie?
Russians make some pretty good war movies.
If the Germs were using their autocannons then the few hits they made would have been more impactful
*If a grandma had balls, she would be a grandpa, then.*
2 P39's were litteraly shot down in this scene.
i tried combine this scene with Anime ost and it's perfect
Video games have ruined filmmakers.
I agree. Filmmakers don’t always do the best job of rendering realism, but at least they are getting younger generations interested in important historical events.
Average rank 3 plane fight
War thunder footage is wild
english subs, spasiba?
If the P 39 flew as its presented here the U.S. would've made it their premier fighter.
US had a totally different fighter doctrine than the Soviets. Most Dogfighting over the eastern front was at low altitude, in which the P-39 excelled with the Allison engine.
DAMN!!!!
If I remember correctly Soviet WW2 fighter pilot, an Ace, Pokryshkin was flying a P-39 air cobra. I think he was 2nd highest ace in the Soviet Union.
There were 29 soviet pilots that had 15 or more victories that flew the Cobra
Now this is how you do a reallistic dogfight... since Enein Zero i did not watch such a beautiful and brutal dogfight.. fuk the battle of midway movie
Star Wars on the Eastern Front.
War thunder direct hit update will be so good 🥵🥵
Marmelada. Porém interessante. O p-39 é o fino da goiaba !!
War Thunder ?
Pokryshkin took off the wing guns for better roll.
Eric Hartmann laughed at this 😅😅
Do most russian ww2 movies use the same CGI company they all look so similar.
El P39 a baja altitud era mejor que los messerchmit y fue un avión apreciado por la cantidad de cosas que innovó y por su cañón de 37 que tanto admiraban los soviéticos. Stalin le pidió a Rooselvelt, que sólo quería Airacobras, hasta tal punto que Bell abrió una factoría en Moscú, y mejoró el avión a criterio de los pilotos soviéticos. El P 51, copió su forma.
id rather enter a dog fight in a p47 with a cylinder shot out and a shot up rudder than enter a dog fight in a brand new p39
Russians didn't really have that choice. They certainly made the best of what they were given.
P-39 is actually more maneuverable than P-47 plus it has a 37mm cannon
@@MiG-31893 I'd still rather fly the p47. I prefer the rugged design and survivability ...better dive rate and higher altitude performance as well as the 8 .50's over the canon and the p39
@@davy1458 yes but just being survivable isn’t everything, I mean who are you fighting? Zeros and FW190s? They have 20mm that would shred the p-47. I would prefer to destroy what I hit in one shot and be maneuverable to evade shots. P-47 was also primarily ground attack remember
@@MiG-31893 yeah they say that but the p47 bore the brunt of the war in Eastern Europe until higher numbers of p51s made it to the European theater and there are plenty of p47 pilots from ww2 who say they wouldn't have wanted to fly any other plane....I think it just comes down to personal preferences and the talent and skills of a particular pilot. I think it comes down to being more about the pilot than the plane.
They had digital HUD's in WW2??
Yeah, they were called reflector sights. Later war ones were even fancier. They made a trail effect in the HUD that calculated and visually displayed bullet leading position and gravity. They were called gryo sights
Audio Beeps.......? In 1942.,,,,, LMAO.. Assume for Cinema Effect.
@@pppppffffffmmmmmmmnn i think gyro sight dont calculate. They just react on to g force and direction of gravity... moreless like the virtual horizon instrument.
Let’s just not talk about how Russia has fallen horribly short of the forefathers of past wars…..
Hollo from Russia
Lmao...a p39 winning a dogfight from a FW-190???? Only in Russian videos...
Based on what we’ve heard from American pilots at the outset of World War 2, one would think the P-39 is a complete deathtrap. The P-39 N and Q’s were actually on par with or better than 109’s and 190’s at low altitudes. The Russians removed the wing guns and some of the radio equipment to improve their performance. The P-39 also earned the distinction of having the highest kill count of all American allied fighters in World War 2.
@@walterswarhistoryarchive Looks like they'd be hard to bail out of, with the car style doors that hinge forwards and only one door having an inside latch handle. IIRC the car style doors had something to do with Nash building the cockpit sections.
The moment Allison (The P-39's engine manufacturer) sent out a note explaining that they could run the engines at around 60" of manifold pressure for the same fuel really changed all that.
The Airacobra went from 1200 hp to 1600 hp with just that change.
Soviet aces , Mostly Flew Airacrobras. History Education is essential.
@@issacfoster1113 Some of those aces had some extremely high kill rates. Highest in any American made plane.
P-39N-Q VD JETS WAR THUNDER LIVE
A little bit of bull shit but entertaining cheers
*Bullshit now happens in Ukraine where Russian missile destroyed 5 Patriots.😎🤘 And that is a proof, that this movie is more than realistic, I'd say, it resembles a documentary.🤘*
@@NexTex-h6cno, ok
@@NexTex-h6cwhere is proof
Sorry, but why russians were flying an american fighther?
Google "ww2 lend-lease) we gave the russians thousands of P-39s. They loved them.
Funny seeing people actually praise this movie. Utter slop.
На P-39 воевал ЛУЧШИЙ АС СССР - Александр Иванович Покрышкин, ТРИЖДЫ Герой Советского Союза, лучший методист и теоретик воздушного боя! "Аэрокобра" - ПРЕКРАСНАЯ МАШИНА, благодарность ИНЖЕНЕРАМ США