It’s never about volume. It has never been about volume. There are some penalties that are relatively inconsequential, and there are some penalties that are game changing.
If thats true then why are people talking about these penalties? One was on the chiefs second drive in the 1st quarter the other of was late 3rd quarter😂 The Texans had the ball 3 times after that in the 4th quarter and did NOTHING . So the timing literally did nothing at all.😂😂😂
@@MangaVation But KC was able to overcome those 47 penalties! Their opponents weren't able to overcome their 48 penalties! What could that possibly be evidence for other than an NFL-wide conspiracy to make KC a dynasty?!?
@@SchulzEricT You would have to explain wym by overcome. If you mean win, that’s different because I doubt those 47 penalties really affected the LITERAL outcome of a game. Which isn’t the case in over 90% of the chiefs games the past two years. I’m not sure if it would even work for points either. But you’d have to provide some data for that ig. But basically, the chiefs knows how to capitalize on mistakes their opponents makes more than the opponents do for the chiefs. That’s not rigged it’s just being better
Imagines how mad these clowns would be if Allen won as much as mahomes with all the flopping Allen does...but he's not a true winner so nobody cares that he does it all the time
He didn’t get the flag on the flop. It was obvious and dumb. Let’s not pretend like the Texans giving up 8 sacks and missing extra points and field goals were ever going to win. Cry harder.
What Ryen fails to mention what penalties are being called. If half are mysterious personal fouls vs half being false starts, thats where KC gets the advantage.
@@Anthony-ow8kd u get it. Also when the penalty is called as well. Personal foul early in 4th quarter doesn't hold same weight as a personal foul on last drive. Both are 15 yards but aren't remotely the same
Yeah just ignore the facts that don't support your argument and say some nonsense that can't Ever be disproven Or Proven because it's so arbitrary.... be better guys Find Facts that support your conclusions Not how you feel Don't take Facts and say oh well throw that out because I know for a Fact even tho I can't prove this with Facts that the Chiefs are getting the better of this deal somehow
@@conceited2.0 The BIG calls against HOU took place in the 1st qtr, the 3rd qtr... and then Mahomes flopping didn't even draw a flag. But I guess why let facts get in the way of pooping in your diaper and crying like a baby?
Chiefs get drive saving flags all the time while opponents get drive ending flags all the time I saw the Texans get flagged like 3 times in one drive and 2 of them were definitely questionable and they somehow still overcame like 1 and 20 twice I believe it was the first drive of the second half
A flop is when you're barely touched. He was shoved. The field was frozen. Do you skate or take a flop? All I know is, he didn't look for a flag, one wasn't called, and it had zero effect on the game. Y'all reaching.
@@chieframbo1” allowed contact?” Dude was going out of sideline, got shoved in the back. Not saying anything about the flop, but saying he allowed contact is false.
@ right.. he was going out. Then he let up a bit right before going out of bounds, thus allowing some contact(the shove) in an attempt to draw the foul.
It's not the number of penalties it's when the penalties are called and what penalties are called. Huge difference between a false start and a pass interference or a roughing the passer!
The same people who hate on mahomes and the chiefs are the same people praising tom brady now currently even tho the game also changed a lot due to brady, also the tuck rule? Deflate gate? The steelers td that wasnt called a td for some reason, mysteriously having 0 flags called against them versus the jags in AFC champ game, myles jack apparently being down? But now y’all wanna treat tom brady likes hes jesus?
Before you investigate the conspiracy….why not investigate your own personal problems like why your kids hate you or why you have been married several times?!
@@JosephShepherd-h3t I did watch the game. I was referring to the flop out of bounds. If they get every call, they would’ve gotten that call. You are complaining about two calls, one on the Chiefs first offensive drive and the second at the beginning of the fourth quarter. Both of them completely comply with their respective rules.
@@duchessofdissent5728not to mention one of those calls was on 3rd & 8. It was 3rd & 8 because the chiefs had just been flagged the play prior. These people's arguments make no sense
Mahomes flopped and it wasn't called. Brady deflated the damn ball. Who cares? We all saw the ref go over to Josh on the bench and apologize. Let's go KC!
@@mattturner5750Not people just haters flopping has been around a long time I've seen Brady flop Peyton flop and especially Allen flop but now that mahomes does 1 it needs to become outlawed ok that'll change nothing
@mattturner5750 all criticism isn't hate complaining about one or two calls or seven through out a whole season is ridiculous it ignores the history of the league and it's just factually untrue all these people complaining about the refs had a chance to beat the Chiefs and through their own mistakes were unable to do it almost the definition of excuse making
The consequences of the flags is a huge difference though. Chiefs get flagged on plays that don’t matter. The other team gets flagged when the Chiefs don’t convert a 3rd down or when there’s a turnover.
@@tacotom3492this is not hard the announcers see it everyone but some random ass dude on tick tock sees it. I wouldn't put too much stock in what this guy says anyway
@@KBergsthat's what I'm thinking, I believe they are going to pass the tourch to Jayden Daniels soon tobe Superbowl mvp Washington beats KC in the Superbowl
Why is everyone so wound up about Mahomes flop? No flag was thrown so who cares? On top of that, it's a known fact that Josh Allen flops way more than Patrick. Give it a rest.
Nobody said a damn thing when Brady was winning other than ohh he is so good the best to ever do it. He got calls too but for commentators to complain about it is insane, I think people hate us because they can't call our city or team irrelevant anymore 😢😢😢😢GO CHIEFFFSSSS!!!!
@@michaelmoorekingmoore4391Tell me you don't know ball without telling me you don't know about if you don't think Tom Brady and the Patriots were talked about in the same way you must have just start watching ball 3 years ago
The roughing the passer penalty came on a 3rd and 8. Guess why it was 3rd and 8. The play before, everyone's favorite right tackle Taylor got flagged for a false start when it was 3rd and 3. So the refs called a penalty on the Chiefs to cover up the following drive-extending call? lol
The situation you just brought up is exactly the case people are complaining about. If you just look at number of penalties in that situation it’s 1 to 1 but one of those penalties is 5 yards and one is 15 and an automatic first down.
@@SolidShepard I mean of course I hate the chiefs winning who doesn’t dislike other teams winning. The chiefs are obviously a great team but some amount of their success is lucky and ref influenced. They obviously have to be in a position to capitalize on a couple calls that go their way and they do doesn’t mean that those calls don’t exist.
It’s not the amount of times it’s when the other teams have been flagged. I bet the chiefs have gotten more calls on 3rd down than the other teams by a mile
Mahomes has mastered the art of bending the rules to favor him. He took what they do in basketball and applied it to football. You may hate it but it’s absolutely genius. His ability to think quick and improvise is why he is the best in the game today.
There's a study by Gary Clark that addresses penalties in high-leverage situations. Turns out, very close both ways with a slight advantage to Chiefs OPPONENTS. Might want to check your confirmation bias.
The Texans put up 12 points. Name a penalty that kept them from scoring. You aren’t going to beat the chiefs in the divisional scoring 12 points. And how they reacted, blaming the refs was embarrassing.
Fr. Everyone talks about the refs but never mention the fact that their special team and oline played terrible. Let up 8 sacks. Missed field goals let the chiefs block one. As well as let up massive kick/punt return yards. The chiefs drives got saved by a penalty maybe once or twice. That still wouldn’t have been enough to beat the chiefs
no its the kind of penalties. those phantom PI calls that wipe out a late INT. or the phantom holding calls that keep drives alive. THATS what the chiefs get away with.
These guys have never watched a KC game in the 4th quarter of a close game. No holding calls, no false starts even though their right tackle jumps back early on pass plays 1/3 of the time.
Yep, were all sick of it.. for me, I've been over it since the Brady era, however we all know, football has been this way for a long time. I just don't understand why sports can't just be left alone and these athletes compete properly.
This is irrelevant…if one team has 10 penalties they committed then they should get 10 penalties.. if one team has 1 penalty they didn’t commit then we have a problem. I’ve watched too many chiefs games where phantom penalties go one way. Period.
The only time I root for an injury is when a player flops. It would have been awesome if Mahomes broke his wrist because he landed on it after flopping. Maybe it would have taught him not to flop.
When a team becomes successful this is what happens. The 80's had the 49ers, the 90's had the Cowboys, the 2000's had the Patriots for nearly 2 decades. If it's not your team then you get butt hurt. 😂
Shocking that a HoF coach, HoF defensive coordinator, a HoF Quarterback, an All-Pro DT, and a HoF Tight End play well in the biggest moments... Weird stuff😂
A lot of y'all not watching the games I remember week two in Atlanta and the Red zone with a chance to win the game and Kansas city's defender hugs the receiver before the ball gets there and it's not called but I guess that's a defense doing their job
@nottodayimbusy7146 unfortunately that wouldn't have won the game. even if they called it a touchdown, there was like four minutes left on the clock. I also guess your blaintly forgetting on the final drive of the game Atlanta was awarded THREE first downs from KC penalties. KC still stop them on a 4th down run. Oh and KC had more penalty yards in that game as well. So that argument is invalid ALL over the place
Josh Allen has been consistently called the worst flopper of all time!! Where’s the outrage for that statistic? But y’all want him the win this weekend simply because the chiefs win too much???
Yeah... Brady, Allen, Burrow.... all the greats flop occasionally. They'll draw penalties as a way of keeping opponents on their toes and to throw them off their game.
I love how he gets throughout numbers and didn't have any contexts to go with these numbers didn't say what was called and when they were if you're stupid you will believe this and fall for it if you have any critical thinking skills you will realize he really didn't actually give you any evidence against what they're saying because no one saying they get less penalties than everyone else they're saying that they seem to get penalties in big moments when there is no penalty being committed
In 3 SB wins not 1 offensive holding has been called on the Chiefs. Thats ridiculous. Tom Brady has had less INT's called back in his entire career (reg season/playoffs) than Mahomes in his. Thats ridiculous.
Those interceptions he gets called back are due to him seeing the flag get thrown on a defense jumping offsides and him taking a "free shot" at a high risk big play that he normally wouldn't take. Receivers are taught to just run a deep route when they see it. Aaron Rodgers does this better than anyone.
For all the people saying it’s not about how many times penalties, they also are 7th worse in penalty yard differential in the 4th q and ot of one score games. So you can’t act like it’s just a bunch of 5 yard penalties compared to a little less 15 yard penalties like you all are saying. Bottom line is, you guys just cherry pick every call that goes the chiefs way and put it on blast, while ignoring every penalty that goes against them.
Allen flops cause he never gets the call lol. So he's trying. Mahomes gets every call because he cries every time. Seems like you're the only clown on this thread. 😂😂
@@arob7759so you calling that guy a clown because he's bringing up facts. Every game there's controversial calls that are stupid. You guys all are just butt hurt your team sucks. Get better. Maybe you can be the one that everybody's complaining about in 10 years.
@@arob7759are you just dumb? There is literally not one stat that shows Mahomes gets more RTP calls than Josh Allen. Josh had more career RTP calls in pass attempts, career, 3rd down percentage. Like the numbers are staggering how many more RTP call Josh gets compared to ALL other QBs. Mahomes isnt even top 5 currently. Haha. So kindly STFU
Agree 100%, if Mahomes and others wanna keep playing on the sidelines, make sure they stay there; put him out of the game. Coaches need to tell their players to stop letting up, actually hurt him because he's hurting the game with this nonsense.
Wanna know a great stat… Mahomes leads the NFL all time in reversed INTs due to defensive penalties with 17 all since entering the league… Tom Brady had 16 overturned INTs due to defensive penalties in his ENTIRE 22 YEAR CAREER! 1 less than Mahomes who has only been playing for 8 seasons 🥴
What this omits are all the times Mahomes and Brady KNEW they had a free play because of offsides. Do you always spout stats without context? I'm sure you do 😂
TBF as long as we have human refs who get to decide when to call and when not to, that’s part of the game; and someone who can “act” better (like Homie) are at an advantage. There’s really no reason not to imo. I don’t love it, but complaining about someone playing the game is wild
People just aggregate penalty stats. You need to consider the situation. 15 yard PF after an UNSUCCESSFUL 3rd down? MASSIVE. That is different than being flagged in a lot of other score down successful play scenarios. People are watching Chiefs games a lot. Remember the bang bang that was on the Bengals? Have that same energy when a Falcons WR gets mauled in the end zone on 4th down at the end of the game. Until people do that analysis this aint going away even in the less ignorant circles. No one cares that the Chiefs got hosed from a bogus hold on 1st down up by 7 or whatever
I find it odd that these two were shocked at the flop. He has been doing this for 3 years. It’s pathetic and moved me from being a Chief’s fan, which I was for over 25 years.
That's a total lie. No chance you have been a Chiefs fan for half that time and bailed on them because Mahomes flops. He's not even close to the worst offender in that area not to mention the fact that he f-ing AMAZING at the position and he has delivered real Chiefs fans more success than they could ever dream of. So stupid.
Chiefs fan? And Patrick 'flopping' caused you to walk away. But here you are. BS on you being a fan but I totally agree with your point about you being an idiot.
@@jld593 awesome, thanks for showing depth in your comment beginning with your unfounded assertion that I wasn’t a Chiefs fan previously and then your childish insult. Mahomes is pathetic, a baby, and ruining the sport. Kelce is arrogant, a prick, and a premadonna. The only good thing about the team is the coach.
Just take the damn penalty and put him out of the game.. it's really that simple... What's 30 yards when mahomes isn't in the game to take advantage... It's not dirty when the other side is manipulating the rules and refs... Take the shot.. full force
Right but look at the yards gained for the cheifs in penalties and the yards lost for the chiefs. Compare those numbers to the other team. All season long. Not to mention their waterboy calls timeouts for the team in crucial moments. It’s not even close.
Yeah, do something dirty and pay the fine and possibe suspension as well as if that player you did dirty gets hurt you now have a target on your back next year that most likely will cost you the season as players will be gunning for your knees!!
Just admit those two 15 yard penalties for hitting Mahomes were nonsense. He slid was too late and he wasn’t hit forcibly in the head. QBs take worse hits every game with no flag. He get two on very consequential moments in the game that resulted in points. Admit that and we can move forward. Maybe they win anyway, but the refs gifted the Chiefs quite a bit last week.
Don't stand on the tracks when the trains coming thru. And it's coming through kansas city next Sunday. With a number 17 on the locomotive. It's time !
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Josh Allen flops as well. 😂
No he doesn't
@koolkitties8552 yes he does
@@koolkitties8552 i would love to show you proof by sharing a link, but youtube keeps deleting it. Lucky you.
All the time
He got up and ran back to the huddle without any flags or any complaints ! What is the problem?
He flopped
It’s never about volume. It has never been about volume. There are some penalties that are relatively inconsequential, and there are some penalties that are game changing.
If thats true then why are people talking about these penalties?
One was on the chiefs second drive in the 1st quarter the other of was late 3rd quarter😂
The Texans had the ball 3 times after that in the 4th quarter and did NOTHING . So the timing literally did nothing at all.😂😂😂
This. Volume isn't a factor but find the number of penalties called that have created automatic first spend for the Chiefs and it's probably 30 to 2
@@MangaVation But KC was able to overcome those 47 penalties! Their opponents weren't able to overcome their 48 penalties! What could that possibly be evidence for other than an NFL-wide conspiracy to make KC a dynasty?!?
@@SchulzEricT
You would have to explain wym by overcome. If you mean win, that’s different because I doubt those 47 penalties really affected the LITERAL outcome of a game. Which isn’t the case in over 90% of the chiefs games the past two years.
I’m not sure if it would even work for points either. But you’d have to provide some data for that ig.
But basically, the chiefs knows how to capitalize on mistakes their opponents makes more than the opponents do for the chiefs. That’s not rigged it’s just being better
Yeah that’s what people, and Russillo who has used this argument a number of times, don’t understand. Momentum calls
it’s not volume, it’s the key moments of “no calls” against the chiefs more so than calls in their favor that end up
Imagines how mad these clowns would be if Allen won as much as mahomes with all the flopping Allen does...but he's not a true winner so nobody cares that he does it all the time
Chiefs derangement syndrome in these comments
You got chief glazing syndrome
@Yutsudama only a beta uses glazing
@Yutsudama only a beta uses glazing
11 post season games with less penalties than their opponent... 0 games with more. It's been obvious for years now
@J_head432 Usually, the less disciplined team commits more penalties, so the Chiefs are better. Thanks for that
Well disciplined team. Don't be jealous. Do better!
He didn’t get the flag on the flop. It was obvious and dumb. Let’s not pretend like the Texans giving up 8 sacks and missing extra points and field goals were ever going to win. Cry harder.
What Ryen fails to mention what penalties are being called. If half are mysterious personal fouls vs half being false starts, thats where KC gets the advantage.
@@Anthony-ow8kd u get it. Also when the penalty is called as well. Personal foul early in 4th quarter doesn't hold same weight as a personal foul on last drive. Both are 15 yards but aren't remotely the same
Yeah just ignore the facts that don't support your argument and say some nonsense that can't Ever be disproven Or Proven because it's so arbitrary.... be better guys
Find Facts that support your conclusions
Not how you feel
Don't take Facts and say oh well throw that out because I know for a Fact even tho I can't prove this with Facts that the Chiefs are getting the better of this deal somehow
@@conceited2.0 The BIG calls against HOU took place in the 1st qtr, the 3rd qtr... and then Mahomes flopping didn't even draw a flag. But I guess why let facts get in the way of pooping in your diaper and crying like a baby?
Then prove it. Do the work to show this is a reality instead of baselessly claiming it to be so
Chiefs get drive saving flags all the time while opponents get drive ending flags all the time I saw the Texans get flagged like 3 times in one drive and 2 of them were definitely questionable and they somehow still overcame like 1 and 20 twice I believe it was the first drive of the second half
A flop is when you're barely touched. He was shoved. The field was frozen. Do you skate or take a flop? All I know is, he didn't look for a flag, one wasn't called, and it had zero effect on the game. Y'all reaching.
Nah that was a flop, no question about it. He allowed contact and tried to sell it. Glad there was no call on it.
@@chieframbo1” allowed contact?” Dude was going out of sideline, got shoved in the back. Not saying anything about the flop, but saying he allowed contact is false.
No flag No foul move on
@ right.. he was going out. Then he let up a bit right before going out of bounds, thus allowing some contact(the shove) in an attempt to draw the foul.
It's not the number of penalties it's when the penalties are called and what penalties are called. Huge difference between a false start and a pass interference or a roughing the passer!
Watch Josh Allen flop, bro. This is bitting the apple again.
Its not how many penalties...its about the timing of the penalties 🙄
Like in the 4th quarter and overtime?
The same people who hate on mahomes and the chiefs are the same people praising tom brady now currently even tho the game also changed a lot due to brady, also the tuck rule? Deflate gate? The steelers td that wasnt called a td for some reason, mysteriously having 0 flags called against them versus the jags in AFC champ game, myles jack apparently being down? But now y’all wanna treat tom brady likes hes jesus?
Cope harder. Your little flopping swifty Kermit the frog could never even hold Tom Bradys jock strap.
Before you investigate the conspiracy….why not investigate your own personal problems like why your kids hate you or why you have been married several times?!
What he said at the end is how I was thinking as well might as well make it worthwhile f-it
The checks keep clearing. How hard is that to understand?!
Bigfoot is real! How hard is that to understand?
For you as hard as knowing a thesaurus isn't a dinosaur.
So talk about Allen flipping around, he does the same thing!
It wasn't called. The team that gets all the calls didn't get that call.
Did you watch the game? He got 2 flags right before that. Which is why he expected that call.
@@JosephShepherd-h3t I did watch the game. I was referring to the flop out of bounds. If they get every call, they would’ve gotten that call. You are complaining about two calls, one on the Chiefs first offensive drive and the second at the beginning of the fourth quarter. Both of them completely comply with their respective rules.
@@duchessofdissent5728not to mention one of those calls was on 3rd & 8. It was 3rd & 8 because the chiefs had just been flagged the play prior. These people's arguments make no sense
@@SolidShepard yes a BS holding call on Trey Smith. Oops maybe I did watch the game. 🤣🙄
Mahomes flopped and it wasn't called. Brady deflated the damn ball. Who cares? We all saw the ref go over to Josh on the bench and apologize. Let's go KC!
@Aminah6623, Good point, and you have a good name..👍
People obviously care
@@mattturner5750Not people just haters flopping has been around a long time I've seen Brady flop Peyton flop and especially Allen flop but now that mahomes does 1 it needs to become outlawed ok that'll change nothing
@@petergalindo6867 No, people care. The idea that all criticism is "just haters" is childish.
@mattturner5750 all criticism isn't hate complaining about one or two calls or seven through out a whole season is ridiculous it ignores the history of the league and it's just factually untrue all these people complaining about the refs had a chance to beat the Chiefs and through their own mistakes were unable to do it almost the definition of excuse making
The consequences of the flags is a huge difference though. Chiefs get flagged on plays that don’t matter. The other team gets flagged when the Chiefs don’t convert a 3rd down or when there’s a turnover.
Do you have proof of that? Stats?
@ no bro. I don’t get paid to pull stats and keep a record of each play. I have watched enough games though to recognize the disparities.
@@robbycatalina226source: trust me bro
Actually, Gary Clark DID a study on that, and turns out there has been a slight advantage for Chiefs opponents. Confirmation bias much??? 😂🤡
@ great story buckaroo! Cute emojis too.
It’s the timing of the calls for the chiefs that is the problem
1st qtr, 3rd qtr! The most KEY QUARTERS!!!
They literally said the quarter where it matters most and you're still crying
@@tacotom3492this is not hard the announcers see it everyone but some random ass dude on tick tock sees it. I wouldn't put too much stock in what this guy says anyway
Moving the goalpost. It’s the amount, then the timing, then the yardage… what’s your next baseless claim?
Points count the same every quarter
The Bills vs Chiefs will be really good this weekend
I bet the zebras back off for this one. Under too much heat for that Texan tragedy.
@@KBergsthat's what I'm thinking, I believe they are going to pass the tourch to Jayden Daniels soon tobe Superbowl mvp Washington beats KC in the Superbowl
Why is everyone so wound up about Mahomes flop? No flag was thrown so who cares? On top of that, it's a known fact that Josh Allen flops way more than Patrick. Give it a rest.
So I'm sure you guys day that Brady didn't get any calls on his favor
Plz talk about alllllllll the times Josh Allen flops aswell 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Its not the number of penalties its when they are called and how severe. IQ 70
Wwhhaaaaaaaaa.... so tighten up your team and stop crying
Nobody said a damn thing when Brady was winning other than ohh he is so good the best to ever do it. He got calls too but for commentators to complain about it is insane, I think people hate us because they can't call our city or team irrelevant anymore 😢😢😢😢GO CHIEFFFSSSS!!!!
@@michaelmoorekingmoore4391people said this about Brady since they got docked a first round pick in 2005 for cheating
@@michaelmoorekingmoore4391Tell me you don't know ball without telling me you don't know about if you don't think Tom Brady and the Patriots were talked about in the same way you must have just start watching ball 3 years ago
Everyone flops. I’ve seen linemen flop to RB and CB. It’s about trying to see how much you can get away to get an advantage
Punters flop most of the time..
It's hard to beat The Chiefs and Refs at the same time.
Imagine if he would have gotten hurt by flopping 😂
The roughing the passer penalty came on a 3rd and 8. Guess why it was 3rd and 8. The play before, everyone's favorite right tackle Taylor got flagged for a false start when it was 3rd and 3. So the refs called a penalty on the Chiefs to cover up the following drive-extending call? lol
This. People just can't handle their teams own failures, and the chiefs success, and are grasping for excuses
The situation you just brought up is exactly the case people are complaining about. If you just look at number of penalties in that situation it’s 1 to 1 but one of those penalties is 5 yards and one is 15 and an automatic first down.
@DominicSchrecengost you are full of it. Just admit you hate the chiefs winning
@@SolidShepard I mean of course I hate the chiefs winning who doesn’t dislike other teams winning. The chiefs are obviously a great team but some amount of their success is lucky and ref influenced. They obviously have to be in a position to capitalize on a couple calls that go their way and they do doesn’t mean that those calls don’t exist.
@DominicSchrecengost I will give you luck. Every team is subject to luck. But the ref thing is just an excuse losers use.
It's about 5 yard penalty or a 10 or 15 yard penalty. And we're on the field!
Mahomes if he keeps acting like this he's going to get LIT-UP.
The guy doesn’t deserve an Oscar if you can tell he is acting. Rewards go for the opposite
The amount of penalties is irrelevant when they happen is what’s relevant
Only problem, he was clearly out of bounds when shoved , clearly unnecessary roughness
He was remaking LeBron and James harden flops
It’s not the amount of times it’s when the other teams have been flagged. I bet the chiefs have gotten more calls on 3rd down than the other teams by a mile
As bad as the flop was, it resulted in no flags. Did nothing to change the game.
Thoughts on Josh Allen flopping his whole career
So you all get mad about mahomes doing it but Josh Allen does it like crazy
It about WHEN they throw the flag. Always at the right time
Mahomes has mastered the art of bending the rules to favor him. He took what they do in basketball and applied it to football. You may hate it but it’s absolutely genius. His ability to think quick and improvise is why he is the best in the game today.
Chiefs Stan’s going crazy with this
I’m more then happy you drop your luxury chip dip
That’s because you’re a sad person
Those flops are what got Trevor lawrence drilled in the head but no one wants to admit it.
Not all penalties are accepted or result in automatic 1st downs . This stat is mostly worthless
It's when the penalties occur!!
It’s about the situation and when the chiefs get flagged it’s the correct call
There's a study by Gary Clark that addresses penalties in high-leverage situations. Turns out, very close both ways with a slight advantage to Chiefs OPPONENTS. Might want to check your confirmation bias.
The Texans put up 12 points. Name a penalty that kept them from scoring. You aren’t going to beat the chiefs in the divisional scoring 12 points. And how they reacted, blaming the refs was embarrassing.
Fr. Everyone talks about the refs but never mention the fact that their special team and oline played terrible. Let up 8 sacks. Missed field goals let the chiefs block one. As well as let up massive kick/punt return yards. The chiefs drives got saved by a penalty maybe once or twice. That still wouldn’t have been enough to beat the chiefs
Not all flags are equal.
Patty crying to the ref on the first roughing the Passer could be a poster
No one's biting an apple they are watching important games not the whole season stat pad during biggest games
no its the kind of penalties. those phantom PI calls that wipe out a late INT. or the phantom holding calls that keep drives alive.
THATS what the chiefs get away with.
These guys have never watched a KC game in the 4th quarter of a close game. No holding calls, no false starts even though their right tackle jumps back early on pass plays 1/3 of the time.
Saw that
Yep, were all sick of it.. for me, I've been over it since the Brady era, however we all know, football has been this way for a long time. I just don't understand why sports can't just be left alone and these athletes compete properly.
This is irrelevant…if one team has 10 penalties they committed then they should get 10 penalties.. if one team has 1 penalty they didn’t commit then we have a problem. I’ve watched too many chiefs games where phantom penalties go one way. Period.
The only time I root for an injury is when a player flops. It would have been awesome if Mahomes broke his wrist because he landed on it after flopping. Maybe it would have taught him not to flop.
When a team becomes successful this is what happens. The 80's had the 49ers, the 90's had the Cowboys, the 2000's had the Patriots for nearly 2 decades. If it's not your team then you get butt hurt. 😂
If I’m being honest. I was not expecting the cowboys to be on that list
Ryen defending the status quo--what a surprise.
Shocking that a HoF coach, HoF defensive coordinator, a HoF Quarterback, an All-Pro DT, and a HoF Tight End play well in the biggest moments... Weird stuff😂
A lot of y'all not watching the games I remember week two in Atlanta and the Red zone with a chance to win the game and Kansas city's defender hugs the receiver before the ball gets there and it's not called but I guess that's a defense doing their job
@nottodayimbusy7146 unfortunately that wouldn't have won the game. even if they called it a touchdown, there was like four minutes left on the clock. I also guess your blaintly forgetting on the final drive of the game Atlanta was awarded THREE first downs from KC penalties. KC still stop them on a 4th down run. Oh and KC had more penalty yards in that game as well. So that argument is invalid ALL over the place
It's been like this for 20 years now you want start crying about it
Cherry picked stats. We know how favourable the calls the chiefs get in critical situation , specifically in the playoffs.
Josh Allen has been consistently called the worst flopper of all time!! Where’s the outrage for that statistic? But y’all want him the win this weekend simply because the chiefs win too much???
Yeah... Brady, Allen, Burrow.... all the greats flop occasionally. They'll draw penalties as a way of keeping opponents on their toes and to throw them off their game.
I love how he gets throughout numbers and didn't have any contexts to go with these numbers didn't say what was called and when they were if you're stupid you will believe this and fall for it if you have any critical thinking skills you will realize he really didn't actually give you any evidence against what they're saying because no one saying they get less penalties than everyone else they're saying that they seem to get penalties in big moments when there is no penalty being committed
In 3 SB wins not 1 offensive holding has been called on the Chiefs. Thats ridiculous. Tom Brady has had less INT's called back in his entire career (reg season/playoffs) than Mahomes in his. Thats ridiculous.
Those interceptions he gets called back are due to him seeing the flag get thrown on a defense jumping offsides and him taking a "free shot" at a high risk big play that he normally wouldn't take. Receivers are taught to just run a deep route when they see it. Aaron Rodgers does this better than anyone.
@kyleoliver3871 Yeah ok buddy, do some research. Flags are thrown afterwards, not offsides
Ok stop it ever quarterback in the league does the same thing to try to get a flag
Everyone talks about the flop, but no penalty came from it. Though there ought to be a bad acting flag!
There absolutely IS flopping in football. That comment was ludicrous!
Disciplined teams win games - you know that - so stop throwing your own credibility under the bus - seriously - really
For all the people saying it’s not about how many times penalties, they also are 7th worse in penalty yard differential in the 4th q and ot of one score games. So you can’t act like it’s just a bunch of 5 yard penalties compared to a little less 15 yard penalties like you all are saying. Bottom line is, you guys just cherry pick every call that goes the chiefs way and put it on blast, while ignoring every penalty that goes against them.
Apparently these two clowns haven’t seen the Josh Allen flop video
Allen flops cause he never gets the call lol. So he's trying. Mahomes gets every call because he cries every time.
Seems like you're the only clown on this thread. 😂😂
@@arob7759so you calling that guy a clown because he's bringing up facts. Every game there's controversial calls that are stupid. You guys all are just butt hurt your team sucks. Get better. Maybe you can be the one that everybody's complaining about in 10 years.
@@arob7759Allen has more penalties called for him then Mahomes with one less year played. Try looking up stats before taking out of your ass
@@arob7759are you just dumb? There is literally not one stat that shows Mahomes gets more RTP calls than Josh Allen. Josh had more career RTP calls in pass attempts, career, 3rd down percentage. Like the numbers are staggering how many more RTP call Josh gets compared to ALL other QBs. Mahomes isnt even top 5 currently. Haha. So kindly STFU
All flags aren't the same.
Agree 100%, if Mahomes and others wanna keep playing on the sidelines, make sure they stay there; put him out of the game. Coaches need to tell their players to stop letting up, actually hurt him because he's hurting the game with this nonsense.
Wanna know a great stat… Mahomes leads the NFL all time in reversed INTs due to defensive penalties with 17 all since entering the league… Tom Brady had 16 overturned INTs due to defensive penalties in his ENTIRE 22 YEAR CAREER! 1 less than Mahomes who has only been playing for 8 seasons 🥴
What this omits are all the times Mahomes and Brady KNEW they had a free play because of offsides. Do you always spout stats without context? I'm sure you do 😂
If your constantly being accused of doing something you might as well do it
TBF as long as we have human refs who get to decide when to call and when not to, that’s part of the game; and someone who can “act” better (like Homie) are at an advantage. There’s really no reason not to imo. I don’t love it, but complaining about someone playing the game is wild
Why are you restricting it to those circumstances? What’s the total count? Did the refs help them get into a position to make it a one score game??
So kc gets flagged as much as their opponents but thats an argument that theyre favored by the nfl?
Cuz penalties only matter in the 4th… what about the other 3 quarters? I’d love to hear those stats…
People just aggregate penalty stats. You need to consider the situation. 15 yard PF after an UNSUCCESSFUL 3rd down? MASSIVE. That is different than being flagged in a lot of other score down successful play scenarios.
People are watching Chiefs games a lot. Remember the bang bang that was on the Bengals? Have that same energy when a Falcons WR gets mauled in the end zone on 4th down at the end of the game.
Until people do that analysis this aint going away even in the less ignorant circles. No one cares that the Chiefs got hosed from a bogus hold on 1st down up by 7 or whatever
Did you have the same energy when no PI flag vs the packers last year that cost the chiefs the game? Doubt it
I find it odd that these two were shocked at the flop. He has been doing this for 3 years. It’s pathetic and moved me from being a Chief’s fan, which I was for over 25 years.
That's a total lie. No chance you have been a Chiefs fan for half that time and bailed on them because Mahomes flops. He's not even close to the worst offender in that area not to mention the fact that he f-ing AMAZING at the position and he has delivered real Chiefs fans more success than they could ever dream of. So stupid.
@ Well, Mahomes flopping and a baby and Kelce being an arrogant premaddona. The coach is great, but the players are trash people.
Chiefs fan? And Patrick 'flopping' caused you to walk away. But here you are. BS on you being a fan but I totally agree with your point about you being an idiot.
@@jld593 awesome, thanks for showing depth in your comment beginning with your unfounded assertion that I wasn’t a Chiefs fan previously and then your childish insult. Mahomes is pathetic, a baby, and ruining the sport. Kelce is arrogant, a prick, and a premadonna. The only good thing about the team is the coach.
Just take the damn penalty and put him out of the game.. it's really that simple... What's 30 yards when mahomes isn't in the game to take advantage... It's not dirty when the other side is manipulating the rules and refs... Take the shot.. full force
I bet all these Haters have a wall full of participation trophies on the wall .
You don't understand the rough starts calling flags on them once the game is over is look that statistic
Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining
anyone who can’t see sports are not fairly played is either blind or bought off
The NFL/ref's got KC another W, if it wasn't for the Ref's thy wouldn't be in the playoffs
LMAO...It's not the quantity. It's the quality of the penalty. Run another program, game altering penalties! We'll wait...
Right but look at the yards gained for the cheifs in penalties and the yards lost for the chiefs. Compare those numbers to the other team. All season long. Not to mention their waterboy calls timeouts for the team in crucial moments. It’s not even close.
Yeah, do something dirty and pay the fine and possibe suspension as well as if that player you did dirty gets hurt you now have a target on your back next year that most likely will cost you the season as players will be gunning for your knees!!
Anybody seen the Josh Allen flop montage. It’s epic. Mahomes is a rank amateur compared to Josh😂😂😂
Just admit those two 15 yard penalties for hitting Mahomes were nonsense. He slid was too late and he wasn’t hit forcibly in the head. QBs take worse hits every game with no flag. He get two on very consequential moments in the game that resulted in points.
Admit that and we can move forward. Maybe they win anyway, but the refs gifted the Chiefs quite a bit last week.
This stat doesnt say shit. KC gets fhe drive extending, turnover negating, outcome changing calls. It isnt a matter of opinion.
Nope. Studies have been done that do not support this. Sorry. Guess you're just a loser, then 😂
It would have been hilarious if he had gotten hurt from that flop. Not career ending but season.
The Kansas City Refs want that three peat.
Don't stand on the tracks when the trains coming thru.
And it's coming through kansas city next Sunday.
With a number 17 on the locomotive.
It's time !
It's the Swiefs now