I really appreciate when you walk the pasture and start identifying different plants. I don’t know how many times I’ve said “ oh, that’s what that is “. Thanks for sharing!
The back and forth with Jan is just golden! She asks the questions I want to ask. I think that format is just great! I'm becoming a big fan of sheep. They dont have my heart like cattle do, but they are pretty useful!
When I told you my sheep wouldn’t eat giant rag weed, they are eating it like candy now. I tightened them up a little tighter and BINGO! Your system works great! Thanks for the post I bought from you last week, and the Scott’s house was wonderful place to stay in! We loved our time at the house and the surrounding area is so beautiful. The videos are wonderful but seeing everything in person is so much better especially the Scott’s house! I can’t wait to come again for another stay at the house. Thanks again for all the videos! I got all up to date on the videos when I got home!
for some species of plants, there is a more desirable stage that stock will eat them. I noticed yesterday, that my replacement heifers are just now starting to strip the leaves off the giant ragweed (i call that one horseweed).
Greg, I don't know if it's already been suggested but try finding a recording of puppies whimpering and use a phone to play it within earshot of the new momma and normally she can't resist leading you to the pups.
I can’t thank y’all enough for this great information. You are a positive influence in our country!!! We need a lot more of it, plenty of nonsense to go a round. But as usual you and Miss Jan are the rock. God Bless
Here in town we have a similar situation with an invasive species, bush honeysuckle. Speaking as a Master Gardener, one thing we recommend is to wait for it to leaf out in the spring and immediately cut it down. The idea is that the plant puts the last of its winter reserve of energy into growing those leaves then it's deprived of any photosynthesis to replace that energy. If you want to knock down the autumn olive, grazing the sheep on that schedule might help. But, with your multi species pasture I can see there would also be other considerations.
Ive got 30 acres, 2 ponds, and 25 acres was logged 15 or 16 years ago. It was unmanaged after. Im contemplating managing it now with sheep. Do I need to thin first, then graze, or could I use goats or pigs to thin it for me?
Much Wildlife Are Edge Creatures. Especially deer. Makes really great Habitat. Nothing Better than a Finger of Brush/Trees growing out into a field or vise versa.
When you open up the canopy do you plant seeds or do you let it naturally grow up. If you are planting seeds how are doing it (ex.just broadcasting them)? Also what type of seed are you planting and at what rate?
He does plant seed however its certainly not what you would expect. In rough pasture, he would most likely graze it down or top it with a brush hog. Afterwards start unrolling good quality round bale's over it. Either letting it sit without animals or turning animals out on the rough pasture unrolling the bale's as you feed. Bale's have good seed but getting the carbon down from the bale's is what will really kick start the cycle. No broadcasting seed just unrolling and feeding from the bale swaths as you go. Pay attention to the bale quality, what's in the bale's will end up growing in your pasture.
Missouri Forestry Professor Coggeshall favorite Silvopasture tree is the Swamp White Oak. It grows well on all Missouri soil types. It begins dropping acorns at seven years of age and bears large consistent crops. It will not get as large as a White Oak and will have more branching, however it is a good valuable oak timber. This tree can provide shade in Summer which is helpful to the pasture grasses as well as provides covering relief to cattle on hot days. The low tannin acorns are deer and turkey's favorite white acorn. The annual bounty of acorns is a good food source to fatten lambs for market and condition Sheep for breeding season.
Thank you Greg. In some of our pastures we are having some issues with clumps of persimmon sprouts. As you might recall we don't own a tractor so this year I traded labor with a neighbor for use of his tractor and brush hog. Might you have any other management suggestions for reducing or eliminating the persimmon sprouts? Might feeding hay on them help?
8:00 Greg Judy speaks about how thick the forest was when they began clearing with chainsaws. A Spring Proscribed controlled burn is recommended every five years to release phosphorus and other minerals, as well as reduce tick, rodent and pit viper populations. I can imagine it could have made wading through the brambles a little easier. A low intensity fire in April or May helps reduce undergrowth.
so i was looking into maybe buying woodland and transitioning it into pasture land but with a shade canopy once i flip my property i had bought last year due to the housing market if it happens it happens. But my big idea was to use animals to create a rotational grazing system for (goats and cows) and ocasionally picking a tree to cut down for fire wood / post material with an auger wouldnt be too bad to set up over time i dont think. Granted could be looking at 100 to 300 acres or so on getting transitioned to the next chapter in life.
What's the process for clearing the woods? Chainsaws or machinery? I'm thinking chain saws is a lot of labor input. That looks a lot like what I have here in Texas. Oak canopy with cedar and yaupon underneath. Need to open it up some, and I was thinking goats might start the process and bit.
It's a matter of "grazing days" per acre. He runs high stock density, short duration. I'ld say he has more grazing days on that farm than someone would running a set stock program.
While producing more nutritious food for humans is always a welcome endeavor, one has to keep in mind that forests more optimal ecological processes, such as nutrient, water and energy cycling. So clearing too much forest could also be a disadvantage in other regards.
I really appreciate when you walk the pasture and start identifying different plants. I don’t know how many times I’ve said “ oh, that’s what that is “. Thanks for sharing!
The back and forth with Jan is just golden! She asks the questions I want to ask. I think that format is just great! I'm becoming a big fan of sheep. They dont have my heart like cattle do, but they are pretty useful!
When I told you my sheep wouldn’t eat giant rag weed, they are eating it like candy now. I tightened them up a little tighter and BINGO! Your system works great! Thanks for the post I bought from you last week, and the Scott’s house was wonderful place to stay in! We loved our time at the house and the surrounding area is so beautiful. The videos are wonderful but seeing everything in person is so much better especially the Scott’s house! I can’t wait to come again for another stay at the house. Thanks again for all the videos! I got all up to date on the videos when I got home!
Marvin Baier - the Scotts house, how did that work ?
Do you pay for ea night’s Stay ? Or is that part of buying equipment or livestock.
for some species of plants, there is a more desirable stage that stock will eat them. I noticed yesterday, that my replacement heifers are just now starting to strip the leaves off the giant ragweed (i call that one horseweed).
Greg,
I don't know if it's already been suggested but try finding a recording of puppies whimpering and use a phone to play it within earshot of the new momma and normally she can't resist leading you to the pups.
Mike I am going to try that sequence, thanks for the tip!!
I can’t thank y’all enough for this great information. You are a positive influence in our country!!! We need a lot more of it, plenty of nonsense to go a round. But as usual you and Miss Jan are the rock. God Bless
You'll like asters even more when you get bees. Asters flower kinda between the summer flow and the fall nectar flow.
Here in town we have a similar situation with an invasive species, bush honeysuckle. Speaking as a Master Gardener, one thing we recommend is to wait for it to leaf out in the spring and immediately cut it down. The idea is that the plant puts the last of its winter reserve of energy into growing those leaves then it's deprived of any photosynthesis to replace that energy. If you want to knock down the autumn olive, grazing the sheep on that schedule might help. But, with your multi species pasture I can see there would also be other considerations.
We would like to see your sawmill work sawing the cedar ..😃 Great information about your Silva-pasture.
I agree that would be neat
Ive got 30 acres, 2 ponds, and 25 acres was logged 15 or 16 years ago. It was unmanaged after. Im contemplating managing it now with sheep. Do I need to thin first, then graze, or could I use goats or pigs to thin it for me?
Much Wildlife Are Edge Creatures.
Especially deer. Makes really great Habitat.
Nothing Better than a Finger of Brush/Trees growing out into a field or vise versa.
Great video with some really good useable info. Thanks to you and Jan for taking the time to share your knowedge. Paul from Texas
She truly is your Better half
When you open up the canopy do you plant seeds or do you let it naturally grow up. If you are planting seeds how are doing it (ex.just broadcasting them)? Also what type of seed are you planting and at what rate?
He does plant seed however its certainly not what you would expect.
In rough pasture, he would most likely graze it down or top it with a brush hog. Afterwards start unrolling good quality round bale's over it. Either letting it sit without animals or turning animals out on the rough pasture unrolling the bale's as you feed.
Bale's have good seed but getting the carbon down from the bale's is what will really kick start the cycle.
No broadcasting seed just unrolling and feeding from the bale swaths as you go. Pay attention to the bale quality, what's in the bale's will end up growing in your pasture.
Missouri Forestry Professor Coggeshall favorite Silvopasture tree is the Swamp White Oak. It grows well on all Missouri soil types. It begins dropping acorns at seven years of age and bears large consistent crops. It will not get as large as a White Oak and will have more branching, however it is a good valuable oak timber. This tree can provide shade in Summer which is helpful to the pasture grasses as well as provides covering relief to cattle on hot days. The low tannin acorns are deer and turkey's favorite white acorn. The annual bounty of acorns is a good food source to fatten lambs for market and condition Sheep for breeding season.
Greg I’m so sad we couldn’t make grazing school this year. This is exactly what we want to do!
Thank you Greg. In some of our pastures we are having some issues with clumps of persimmon sprouts. As you might recall we don't own a tractor so this year I traded labor with a neighbor for use of his tractor and brush hog. Might you have any other management suggestions for reducing or eliminating the persimmon sprouts? Might feeding hay on them help?
Yes by feeding hay on them, you are turning the soil more bacterial and moving away from fungal soil which trees love.
8:00 Greg Judy speaks about how thick the forest was when they began clearing with chainsaws. A Spring Proscribed controlled burn is recommended every five years to release phosphorus and other minerals, as well as reduce tick, rodent and pit viper populations. I can imagine it could have made wading through the brambles a little easier. A low intensity fire in April or May helps reduce undergrowth.
so i was looking into maybe buying woodland and transitioning it into pasture land but with a shade canopy once i flip my property i had bought last year due to the housing market if it happens it happens. But my big idea was to use animals to create a rotational grazing system for (goats and cows) and ocasionally picking a tree to cut down for fire wood / post material with an auger wouldnt be too bad to set up over time i dont think. Granted could be looking at 100 to 300 acres or so on getting transitioned to the next chapter in life.
What's the process for clearing the woods? Chainsaws or machinery? I'm thinking chain saws is a lot of labor input.
That looks a lot like what I have here in Texas. Oak canopy with cedar and yaupon underneath. Need to open it up some, and I was thinking goats might start the process and bit.
A good chainsaw and grapples that go on a tractor or skid steer.
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Here’s Greg with his tractor and grapples.
@@gregjudyregenerativerancher Thank you! Hope ya'll are doing well!
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"...80 acres of timber .." George Washington used to complain he didn't know what he had. They would go searching once a year, gather 'em up.
How do you plan your grazing?
Is it worth while to leese the farm if your only on it for 16 days a few times a year?
They are rotating about every 45 days. So they hit that pasture probably 8x a year
It's a matter of "grazing days" per acre. He runs high stock density, short duration. I'ld say he has more grazing days on that farm than someone would running a set stock program.
Mark, every day that you can graze your herd on another piece of land and let your pastures rest, that is worth a ton!!
Sounds like there is hope for my overgrown field. Do sheep eat wild strawberries?
They definitely will.
How about a "like" for this smart man?
While producing more nutritious food for humans is always a welcome endeavor, one has to keep in mind that forests more optimal ecological processes, such as nutrient, water and energy cycling.
So clearing too much forest could also be a disadvantage in other regards.
Whats your sea level?
the eat any thing ! but cant the taste of them
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