Rageaholic Cinema: PUNISHER WAR ZONE (R.I.P. Ray Stevenson)
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
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R.I.P. Ray Stevenson
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As much as I love Thomas Jane as the Punisher I felt Ray Stevenson really brought that vengeful factor to Frank Castle.
Thomas Jane was very vengeful, it's just that he's very subdued and it's mostly in his actions rather than his performance. After all, the guy is coping with the recent loss of his ENTIRE family.
Thomas knew how to express a mournfull empty Frank Castle.
But Ray showed us a Cold blooded ruthless Frank Castle.
Both are good, just that the circumstances were different.
I liked the Thomas Jane movie, but it wasn't Punisher. The Punisher doesn't manipulate a bad guy into killing his wife and best friend. PWZ was truer to the Punisher, but it was ridiculous and tonally uneven (especially with the weird comedic turn of Jigsaw and LBJ). I didn't love it, but I loved Stephenson. To date, I don't think anyone has done the Punisher real justice (no pun intended), but PWZ was the closest we got.
I really liked Jane, too.
That Thomas Jane movie felt like the admonisher.I mean pretending to torture a guy with a popsicle was kinda dumb
Fun fact: this was directed by a female director, Lexi Alexander.
She was a former professional stuntwoman & competitive Karate champion, before becoming a director/producer.
And get this, the studio wanted to tone down the violence, but she fought tooth & nail to have all the ultra-violence & gore in it.According to an Interview, her concept for the movie was to make it a live-action MAX Punisher film.
Nowadays she works mostly on tv-series as a producer/director.
R.I.P. Ray Stevenson, may Mars look favorably upon you!
And can barely find any fucking work because I bet she doesn't bend to the worms in hollywood.
The female equivalent to a giga Chad. Girl knows her shit.
If my memory serves (which it very well may not here, things get foggy after 40)she directed American Psycho.
@@coltonwhite2518 A Chadette, if you will.
I guess its the closest we will ever have to a true MAX Punisher movie.
Interrogator: "Do you know what you've done?!"
Punisher: "All I did was kill a bunch of scumbag criminals."
Interrogator: "You also killed one of our federal agents!"
Punisher: "...Yeah, like I said, a bunch of scumbag criminals."
I wish we had Punisher in real life.
@@mrscruffles801 why?
@@awoogaaah8597 Look around you! So much corruption and filth that needs to be cleansed.
BASED!
@@awoogaaah8597depending on what Punisher he is talking about we will get someone who will actually keep our countries violent dirtbags 6ft under
War Zone was awesome. Totally ridiculous.
Exactly what a Punisher movie should be...and I liked the Thomas Jane flick.
It's the most comic accurate punisher film but not a very good film, entertaining as fuck though.......
I avoided this movie because of the ratings but thanks to your video I watched and man it was awesome. I think its the best Punisher adaptation ever. I have seen a few movies that you recommend like Cobra and Commando and enjoyed them a lot so far, I think im gonna start following your film recommendations.
Yeah just watched it again on disney plus recently and I loved how goofy it was
@@shawklan27 I watched on Disney plus as well, one of the few reasons to have that app
Thomas Jane brought the depression, the brokenness, the survivors guilt. Ray Stevenson brought the vengeance, the blood soaked violence, the carnage. Both were good in their own right.
Don't forget Jon Bernthal brought the rage and anger
@@muazazman3999unnecessary overacting more likely
Thoma was supposed to do a sequel. Ray replaced him
The, "Squeeze. Don't pull." scene is a great showing of the depression and survivor's guilt
Dolph Lundgren bringed death. He wore punishers scull on his face, not t-shirt)
In my mind, Ray Stevenson will always be remembered as Titus Pullo.
Legio XIII for life.
Thirteen! ✊
@ZoomerStasi
Forget bringing down the house, Titus Pullo brought down the Roman Republic!
THIRTEEN!!!
Thirteenth!
THIRTEEN!!!
It's funny that The Punisher: Warzone was a bad movie became a cult classic years later thanks to Ray Stevenson's portrayal as the Punisher. His version was in fact the most comic book accurate.
R.I.P. Ray Stevenson. ♥️
I never thought it was a bad movie. I got to say though, I like the original more.
I was one of the few people who enjoyed this movie from jump. I knew Jigsaw was hammy and over the top, agent budianski was pretty wack. But Soap and Micro were played well and Ray Stevenson as the Punisher was a dream. Dude was tall, he looked like Frank and just kicked ass. This movie is a bloodbath from start to finish. Wish they would have stuck with him.
Easily the best portrayal of an on screen punisher, and the best marvel film made.
The fact it was panned and had no budget for advertising is a crime.
And Dominic west is having the time of his life as jigsaw.
It also stands as a testament that a female director can in fact make a film overdosed on testosterone.
It's also batshit crazy (in a good way)...so fucking good lol...the soundtrack in it is fire too, can't tell me you don't get hyped when they play Psycho-social at the end
I'd say the guy playing James was having the most fun
@Anoneemus Noename have the movie as well although it's not a very good movie it's the most comic accurate adaptation of the character. I liked Bernthals Punisher as well but only in the Daredevil series. The punisher Netflix show was absolute garbage. Would prefer the 80s Lundgren version over it lol.
@funtourhawk I mean this film had SLIPKNOT in it. That's a testament to how goated this film's soundtrack was.
And with his dying breath, Ray Stevenson blessed the masses with a Marvel movie in the Rageaholic Cinema!
Godspeed into the hereafter, Ray.
Amen
Fun Fact: Did you know that kidneys and applesauce are a delicacy in Sweden?
Im gonna get my apple saws bahk.
Did you know dat?
Coming up on a year of Ray's passing, going to rewatch this, Rome and the Outpost.
Damn! I didn't even know Ray had died. What a shame. He was an absolute badass.
he died a couple of days after he was anopunced to be part of Star wars
@@weybye91 Fucking hell! Didn't know about that (don't even know what he actually died of), maybe another reason to avoid this dead franchise which now carries a death curse to some.
@@theblocksays cant remember the cause of death, but he didnt became that old.
I misspoke, he died after the star wars celebration, where the show he was in was shown
He died in a motorcycle accident.
Edit: Actor Treat Williams died from a motorcycle accident, Ray died of a heart attack, possibly exacerbated by The Poke.
@@weybye91He caught an unidentified illness!
Dude, i've been saying for years that this is THE best Punisher ever. Ray Stevenson fitted like a glove as the Punisher, this movie was truly an ode to 80's action movies and a love letter to the Punisher comics, a once in a life time thing, amazing how Pedowood allowed a movie like this to happen.
It's not amazing. This film is nothing that unusual. And ironic to your last sentence, the character James refers to the little girl as jailbait.
"What do you call 500 dead people?"
"A work in progress..."
The parkour guy getting hit with an rpg mid flip when he's just doing parkour and not doing anything else is always hilarious
I actually had the privilege of meeting Mr Stevenson. He was super chill and really genuine. Rest In Power Ray.
The night this film came out, Garth Ennis was doing a signing at a comic shop across from my apartment complex in Florida. Unfortunately, 20 year old me was too preoccupied with trying to hit on the girl behind the counter, and it wasn't until about 8 years later that I finally watched it. I remember feeling giddy because FUCKING FINALLY, Frank was on screen doing what he does best. Ray's presence in character finally felt right and, while bits of "War Zone" teeter precariously into schlock territory, the film as a whole still occupies a slot as my highest ranked adaptation.
Fuck you, Marvel, you've effectively killed off the only character that brought me to give you assholes money.
@Gyrfalcon312damn straight! I still go back and read my old X-Men, Hitman, Spider-Man, and yes Punisher.
Also worth noting is the entire Thomas Jane movie was an origin story. We never got to actually see Thomas Jane at 100% Punisher levels till the end. Conflating the two is very difficult if not impossible. Both men loved the character and tried to get a second film for themselves because they had something to prove, let's just leave it at that.
That was the best live action punisher. My only critique is about the ridiculous parkour gang, but that wasn't Ray's fault.
Worth it to see a parkour tweaker getting smote mid air with an RPG. 😂
@@treehugger7976 ROCKET LAUNCHER!
@@Ziomaletto ROCKET LAWN-CHAIR!
I mean, that's how Doom-guy pronounces it.
The Best Punisher.
The Punisher doesn't cry.
The Punisher is a Monster that hunts Monsters
Agree Jane's too soft
@@cudaconv70Pink Flop Flops Soft
@metalarmada7148 He cried when he saw his family dead in the comics, what do you mean? Jane had that stoic sadness, the music was perfectly both depressing and heroic, Thomas Jane’s punisher was smart and got John Travolta to kill his own wife and best friend! He KILLS Kevin Nash!
@@GunthersLoyalSoldier1307 I love both movies to death, Janes is more a Punisher origin story from normal guy to Punisher. Stevenson is just Punisher full stop
Well, it was an origin story. If we got Punisher 3 with Jane he would be more like Welcome Back Frank.
Those guys hiding out in the room is my favorite scene.
"Quiet fool!" 💥 *BOOM* 💥
😂 Way to go, Frank.
Really surprised to hear ray had passed. He was often the highlight in otherwise mediocre to crap films and tv shows. And war zone is honestly my favourite punisher film, topping the netflix one.
I still have a soft spot for Dolph Lundgren's The Punisher (1989) .
I just watched it for the first time. It’s the superior punisher on film.
Forget bringing down the house, Ray Stevenson brought down the Roman Republic!
Finally, the (probably) best Rageoholic Cinema has arrived to UA-cam!
And Godspeed to Ray, may he rest in peace.
Also, let's not forget about Wayne Knight, who gave us probably the best incarnation of Microchip.
I am actually sad that he gets killed in the movie.
Best Punisher ever cast, and the first one to die? This sucks. Rest in peace, Ray Stevenson.
Two vids in one day? Man Terran must have had a *really* good week under the Queensborough bridge!
You beat me to it
What kind of a world is this when Ray passes 🔆 Best punisher. Wanted more from this production crew.
Ray Stevenson was an underappreciated actor. He pulled of every role well.
WarZone and Dredd 3D two great movies that were underappreciated.
THIS is how you make a Punisher movie. Ray Stevenson should've gotten to make a couple more of these.
That Madonna gag was PERFECT.
The best review of the best Punisher adaptation!
This is why I love this channel.
I don't know why Punisher fans don't respect this movie more. Maybe Jigsaw's more cartoonish antics, but for me, it's worth it for such a spot-on Punisher in a way we'll probably never see again.
The villains were terrible, that's why imo. They should've just made straight up gangsters be the villains, it would've felt better. The villains felt like shitty 2 bit idiots (they were) so it never felt like Punisher had a serious or competent threat to deal with. They should've used the "I killed a fed" angle to actually play into corruption inside the government more, working with the mobs, and punisher dishing out justice to all flavours of criminals while they try to hold the spouse of the good guy he killed hostage rather than some random minor lackey who got made ugly.
Other than the really, really poor villain plot, the movie absolutely kicks ass. Every action scene is awesome. The banter scenes with Punisher are awesome.
If they tightened the overall plot up into something a little more tense and leaned into even more morally grey territory (where the Punisher isn't just shooting cartoonishly evil people, but for example, corrupt officials who facilitate them, too) - it would've been an absolute 10/10 banger.
Saw it in the theater and wasn't expecting much. It turned out to be one of the most entertaining movies that ever existed. So good.
I remember when I finally found this movie on Blu-Ray just in January this year, was so glad to see it again after all these years and it was amazing to watch. Couldn't believe it only had 29% Rotten Tomato score. My heart sank to hear of Stevenson's passing just after getting to finally see this movie again. God rest his soul.
2 razor videos in 1 day ALL HAIL THE FIST
I never knew of Punisher: War Zone until Jon Barton (the ICE Agent arresting Jigsaw in the movie), recommended it to me. Jon and I served in the Marines together. But this movie is very under rated. R.I.P. Mr. Stevenson. I always enjoyed your movies.
RIP Blackbeard. You were a really good actor. (Please do more Rageaholic Cinema videos. They're hilarious 💛!)
Thought I was the only one who watched Black Sails
@@Megatron_95 Black Sails was awesome! 5 out of 5 stars. Best TV Series EVER! I'm not torn about it like I am with what happened to Game of Thrones.
@@Megatron_95 Fantastic show! I was sad that it ended, but it was a fun ride!
I keep hearing good things about Black Sails.
@hitmanmonaghan6633 it's a good series even though it's a prequel to Treasure Island
Before there was John Wick there was The Punisher!
Agreed! They finally got the Punisher correct with this movie. However, the short film "Dirty Laundry," with Thomas Jane as Frank, is a very close runner-up!
Thomas Jane's 2004 Punisher is worth a watch too! Would love to see a Rageaholic Cinema on that one someday! All of the Punisher movies are super underrated and deserve more attention despite their obvious flaws, it's a shame they never were critically and commercially well received.
He acted more like the count of Monte Cristo than the punisher in that movie. I really didn't like it as a result even though it wasn't a terrible movie on its own. However, it did give us the best punisher logo.
@@BlazingOwnagerit also gave us Jane voicing the Punisher in one of the greatest comic book pieces of vidya ever made
@@Gokiza His best bet of voice acting was from the video game. Now that game is perfect in every way...
No.
And Fuck No.
Man on Fire > The Punisher
They both came-out the exact same time and MOF was more Punisher than Marvel Studios atempt
Finally this is on UA-cam. Great film and RIP to the big man
yes 2 razor vids in one day. A splendid treat indeed.
Christmas came early and it's not even July yet
@@Megatron_95lmao, I did turn 20 last month, I'll consider this my late birthday gift.
I ain't heard no planets alignin' this evening...?
When this movie came out on DVD I rented it while I was spending the night at my great-grandparents' house. My great-grandma insisted on watching it with me even though I told her she wouldn't like it at all. At the end of it she said she absolutely loved it. R.I.P Mimi I miss you.
Yes! Absolutely the Punisher from Marvel Knights and best Cinema Frank!
RIP Ray Stephenson - XIII!
This was a great movie. IMO, the best Punisher has ever been on screen. It is unfortunate that not many people seemed to have seen it since people only seem to know about the movie's most ridiculous moment, the chandelier scene.
Too bad we never got a sequel. And R.I.P. to Ray Stevenson. The man deserved to be a much bigger star than he ended up being.
Him and Tom Jane, loved both their takes on The Punisher. But the Punisher video game will always hold a high place in my heart, so much fun!
The game was criminally underrated. It could get a little repetitive, but it was always fun to kick in a door, grab a human shield, and get to work.
YES. Loved that f'ing game. Spent months on that thing.
@@jbellflower83my classmate had it back in the day he said it was pretty badass getting to interrogate the bad guys too in the game
"This is just the beginning..."
Gives me chills every single time. RIP Ray Stevenson
Loved Ray Stevenson. He was so good in “to kill the Irishman”. He’ll be missed. Really enjoyed his punisher
Aw that's such an underrated film. Good call
@@Gilroysmash86 it’s great
I should probably pick up the movies he has been in that I don't own
Loved him in Accident Man (2018)
Great f'ing movie. Amazing it was based on a true story.
I loved how unapologetically brutal punisher was in this movie.
Its a better punisher than what the comics run aanymore
This is the best Punisher movie for me and Ray Stevenson's portrayal of Frank Castle is superb. Everything looks real and natural the way he portrays the Punisher. You can even see in his eyes the way he focus on how to kill his enemies, that he is thinking whats gonna his next move after his current kill like playing billiards, after taking the shot, how and where he needs to place himself to be on the advantage for his next kill and so on until he finishes everyone. You can see and feel from his face to his body language and even the way he holds his weapon and the way he squeezes the trigger the anger and rage inside him against criminals but in a quiet manner but not with the satisfaction and joy just for the sake that he killed someone. You can tell that he is doing it for a reason. That there is a story deep inside him why is he doing it. That no matter how many he kills it wont be enough as a retribution for what happened to his family which leads him to become who he is. And you can feel that every shot he fires, every muzzle flash emitted whenever he pulls the trigger he gets flashbacks of his family, flashbacks of the day they were mercilessly murdered. He wa able to perform all those formula in being the Punisher in a natural and most of the time in a silent way.
The Punisher, BlackBeard, Titus Pullo, Danny Greene.... He was such a great actor. Loved everything I saw him in - and seemed like a great guy off the screen too.
I remember salivating during the title and credits whilst watching this movie in the theater.
Salivating.
Ray was PERFECT as Frank Castle.
Perfect.
Let's not forget that the late great Romita Sr. co-created this character😁
War Zone was always my favorite Punisher movie.
Ray is the best and most accurate version of the Punisher.
He should have gotten more movies as Punisher.
RIP
I was thinking of the War Zone comic and Romita Jr.'s work on it as I was watching your video on his father earlier. Romita Jr. nailed the Punisher's dark, gritty nature through his art and Ray Stevenson brought that to the screen.
The rocket meets Parkour is one of the best movie deaths ever.... each time I see it I laugh out loud at the ridiculousness/awesomeness. RIP Ray, what a legend, best Punisher hands down, the opposite of modern vomit inducing marvel output.
I have said for the longest time that WAR ZONE is the only Punisher movie that truly captures Frank Castle.
R.I.P. Ray Stevenson, I will still sing your praises for this movie, until the day I am also in a grave, or incinerated, whatever.
A worthy review for an amazing film. The Punisher must be one of the easiest characters to write for but they seem to be afraid or unwilling to do it correctly, with the exception of this movie.
PWZ is the closest we'll ever get to a Punisher movie straight from the collective unconscious.
I remember seeing it with a couple of friends and one lone fellow in an otherwise empty theater. Totally worth it.
Remember Ray Stevenson this way. Remember The Punisher this way.
Ray Stevenson was such a brilliant actor and personality. I still love him most for his work in HBO’s sensational “Rome” series. Still the SECOND best thing HBO has made, after “ Deadwood”, of course! Thank you for giving us this, Razor! Ray will be missed!
My personal favourite Punisher!!! So close to the comics!! Rest in peace Ray… you were taken from us a thousand times too soon.
Great video Razor!!!
I love him. I had a crush on him for years since I saw Rome. Loved him in Dexter too. He was a great Punisher! RIP handsome.
He was awesome in Dexter, a real threat.
He's still always going to be Titus Pullo to me!!!
Punisher Warzone didn't hit with me as a young teen but after being a Marine and living that life, warzone became a much better film for me also the punisher video game when griefing the mob was like his side hobby.
Honer to the XIII, May Elysium shine upon Ray's face.
I remember when this came out on DVD, I purchased it on a whim. NO RAGRETS
I was like, "THIS is the Punisher."
I went and saw this in the theater, I've always thought this one was underrated.
Left the theatre laughing hysterically at how they finally made a real Punisher movie. Such an over the top joy.
GabrielBelloMusic recommended this to me and it's the catharsis I needed. I loved this movie when it came out. Rageaholic has been a beacon of truth and righteous fury on UA-cam for years. These two coming together to create this video is a masterpiece of UA-cam. Thank you, sir. This is why I'm here. You're doing the Lord's work.
When the good entertainers die too young, R.I.P. Ray Stevenson!
I pissed myself laughing at the parkour thugs scene! This movie is like the best kind of junk food; the kind you're still burping up the next day and remembering how good it tasted.
I don't know which was better, seeing the best of Punisher War Zone or listening to Razorfist's commentary. Both are awesome. Do it more!
As a gun nerd I appreciate the detail of what model of guns was used to make a third hole in a mafioso’s meatball
Saw this in theaters with my brother and we’re both life long punisher fans. Still to this day one of my fav movies I ever saw in theaters. It was so fucking epic dude. I remember we both thought it was a little campy at times but felt like a punisher comic. Def one of my fav memories I have with my brother.
Thank you for this and congrats on fighting the BS copyright. RIP Ray Stevenson.
Of course Marvel will never give him his due considering they have effectively retired the character for the same politically correct reasons.
Those Mafioso's were clearly drinking Bud Light.
The Best Punisher ever! I loved Ray Stevenson in that movie!
"Wait till I get my hands on Castle."
"Sorry, I don't speak vampire. "
Best quotes
RIP To Stevenson, he was the Best Punisher in live action so far and War Zone is a underrated gem, often getting hate because people don’t understand what the Punisher is!
If War Zones came out today, people would love it. We were truly spoiled. This is what the show should've done.
This was the GREATEST review I have ever watched in my life. Ray Stevenson was the only reason I was going to watch Asohka, now I'm not so sure I will. He was a great actor and he will be missed terribly by me.
I loved this movie, and even saw it in theaters twice. Ray was incredible as Frank Castle, The Punisher. Rest in peace to a fantastic and awesome actor.
I always thought Warzone had a strong Garth Ennis vibe to it with the ultra-violence and dark humor. And Ray Stevenson looked like a Tim Bradstreet cover come to life.
This reminded me of the Punisher's inspiration Mack Bolan THE EXECUTIONER!!! Razor should do a video on his 70s books that sparked a whole genre of men's action novels like the Destroyer, the Penetrator, the Butcher and many more. Razor would dig them I'm sure.
I recently had a movie night with my old man. I grew up watching superhero movies and tv shows with him, even when we didn't have anything else in common. I rarely see him laugh so hard that he sounds like an old lady, but the rocket/parkour guy shit had him laughing and replaying it for 15 minutes. Great time
He was a legend. And this is my favorite Punisher too. HBO's Rome is one of the greatest series ever made. He was great in Dexter too.
Rest In Peace Frank Godspeed! Great underrated classic!
Ray Stevenson’s punisher is an absolute legend… I wanted a sequel.. RIP sir 💐
The RPG parkour and Goddamnit Castle scenes are two of my favorite moments in any action movie ever.
Most comic accurate Punisher ever!
This was a great punisher movie and Ray Stevenson had the look and the acting chops to make it work. Sadly it never spawned a series of movies. R.I.P, Ray I hope where ever you are the beer is cold and the ladies aren't
The ballistic collar Punisher has in this movie is one of the best additions ever made to his outfit, IMO. Wish it carried on in other versions of the character!
Ray Stevenson embodied Frank Castle better than any other actor. He looked the part, and acted the part perfectly. It's too bad we never got another outing with him in the title role.
R.I.P. Ray Stevenson.
Terrific analysis, as always! I forgot how violently-brilliant WAR ZONE is (having seen it in theaters back in '08). RIP, Ray...
I was one of many surprised to find a new punisher flick. Let alone one that was as good as this one. RIP Mr Stevenson. You will be remembered! I remember thinking "Holy shit! Straight to the good stuff!" when the shootout started.
"Strife is good... Strife makes a man strong. For if man is capable of confronting death daily, functioning in the face of it, there is no telling what else that man can do, and a man whose limits cannot be known is a difficult man to defeat in battle."
RIP Ray- haven't seen him in this madhouse showcase, but one of my favorite characters in everything he is cast in that I have seen.
Thank you for the work!
Love the movie and game reviews the most
Danny Greene can never die! RIP Ray, I always loved you brother, keep Heaven entertained big homie 👊🏻
Thank you so much for this, RF! I loved this film! Couldn’t make it today. RIP Ray Stevenson, you champion.
One of my favorite movies and I'm truly saddened to hear of his passing.
He was a talented big man and man could he act as well as kick arse.
He will be missed.
God Bless...
This is my favorite portrayal of The Punisher as well. Definitely appreciate that it was as violent as The Punisher should and needs to be. It also felt like the perfect marriage of a campy comic book movie and action movie.
Can tell Razor is into this one, just tears right in! Good to see another Rageaholic Cinema, it’s definitely got Robot Jox and Scorpion beat...
Been a while since we had a trip to the cinema. Always love when you do these. It’s what got me into your channel