There is a vid on UA-cam where a WW2 Japanese Pilot in Japanese is introduced to a restored Zero. He walks to it and bows in reverence. Former enemy or not, it was a touching moment to watch.
@@peternewman7940We call the official name “Yonn-Shiki Senn-tohki,” which means the Fourth Generation Army Aircraft Fighter. Sometimes, Hayate or Shippoo (疾風)
@@pac1fic055 your assertion that the Ki-84 would still be flying if it hadn't left PoF has nothing to support it. This aircraft could have crashed at any time or have been grounded for countless other reasons.
@@ricardocorbie6803 Well that is the British Museum position on the Elgin marbles. Its really the same thing. In my humble opinion there is no moral case for retaining another country's cultural icons. Not when they are unique. The only case you could make is that the country of origin had negligent hands. The argument with the marbles is that they would have been corroded by Greek air-pollution - at least in former times. You would be aware that the Hayate is now preserved in the Chiran Peace Museum.
They were very good. Towards the end, they suffered from shortages in supplies, fuel and experienced pilots. In the beginning they were better than most of the machines that they encountered in the skies
Another Japanese WWII fighter with the speed and altitude to intercept the B29 was the Mitsubishi J2M Raiden fighter. Also named "Lightning Bolt ". ( 雷電 ). But like the Hayate, it was also a case of " too little, too late ".
Another awesome bite sized documentary as always. We consistently enjoy your videos and really appreciate the time and effort put forth each and every time we watch them. Thanks a ton from the Howard family :)
So true! Despite respecting Japanese reasons. Still whenever I see a Subaru I still regard it as a Nakajima. And just like with "Kawasaki" you are always looking for (and receiving) something stylish with that brand - something EXTRA - a touch of class!
Nakajima Ki-84 was a very good airplane powered by the Homare 21 direct-injection version of the engine, using water injection to aid the supercharger in giving the Ki-84 a rated 2,000 hp and well armed but as you stated the engine was plagued with defective parts and it was difficult to maintain not helped by increasingly few veterans. Nevertheless it was an excellent airplane! Good job 👍 👍👍
Another example that shows that good technology is only part of the winning formula. In fact, it's hard to say one aircraft is better than another. We can say "faster" but then the question is "at what altitude?" and so on. Is the aircraft fit for the role, theatre of operation, maintenance to keep it airworthy and available in sufficient numbers, etc are equally important if less exciting points to consider. Without trained, experienced pilots and an entire well-run logistical supply chain of techs, mechanics, parts and munitions the aircraft is worthless as a weapon of war. And timing is everything. "If this plane was available a year earlier it could have changed the war" Sure. But like the ME262, there were many reasons why they arrived in theatre too late for the game...
@@Mike-eq4ky well said and I agree with you as both are very good airplanes that simply arrived too late to make any difference and were built in too little numbers. But with fuel available and good pilots they made the difference....
@@paoloviti6156 Yes, forgot about the fuel issue which was HUGE for both the Germans and Japanese. We regularly flew 100/130/150 octane fuel to their maybe 85 octane. We could run smaller engines at higher manifold pressures then later adding water methanol injection. The Germans made good use of water methanol injection, which was actually a NACA idea from the US but the Germans made first use of it... I met a British test pilot at Duxford 20 years back who told me while testing Axis fighters if the Germans had the fuel we did they'd have had a much more level playing field power wise. You forget the importance of such a seemingly unimportant detail...
I remember reading that in Japan the Ki-84 was put to compete with the Ki-100 and the german FW 190 A5, that was delivered to Japan by submarine, and while the Ki-100 was the supirior aircraft at the end of the test, the Ki 84 was a equal to the Fw 190, in that regard the Ki 84 was a excelent aircraft
The Ki-100 was an emergency response to the failure of the Japanese inline, liquid cooled engine program. Production of the Japanese copy of the Db-605 never got of the ground due to technical issues and B-29 bombing raids. The Fw-190A that had a relatively narrow fuselage, was helpful in adapting the Ki-61 to radial engine power, thus creating the Ki-100.
You have to be joking. Ki-100 is good for this weight class, but its weak engine just cannot deliver the same perforce to match the Ki-84 or Fw190A5. I’m not sure why the Japanese will consider the Ki-100 superior.
@@thomaszhang3101 The problem to you is, that I´m not joking, the coment I did was based in something I readed a while ago, where?, I believe in wikipedia, so maybe is a 60/40 true/false information, but, unless you find can data that can rebuke that information, you must acept what is in it, also in a war plane speed is not the most important, in a race aircraft, yes, but in a combat situation not so much, agility, maneuverabilityy, climb rate, turn rate, roll rate, dive and weapons, are more important, more if you are in a dogfight, or in a zoom and boom situation, and the Ki 100 was good at that
@@ricardobeltranmonribot3182 from what I learnt in IL2 sim and in WWII pilot interviews. Speed, speed in a dive and energy retention/rate of climb are the most important. They allow you to boom and zoom, then spend more time at higher energy so you yourself won’t be boomed and zoomed. Even the Spitfire was not flown as a dogfight, but loved for its rate of climb. Turning ability was used more as a defensive measure. Maybe the Japanese pilots who loved Ki-100 used to fly Ki-43 or Ki-61, in which case, I understand their love for Ki-100, especially given its diving characteristics. I still don’t think, however, that pilots who got used to the Ki-84 will be willing to fly against similar opponents while they themselves are in a Ki-100.
Its a shame so few of these aicrafts still remain. The KI-84 could potentially have been the best japanese fighter of ww2 but in reality, the KI-100 was. Much more reliable and it could actually dive with allied planes and keep up, unlike most japanese aircrafts.
And that Mitsubishi Kasei radial, when equipped with a 2nd stage turbocharger gave the variants of Ki 100 that got that motor plus the J2M the altitude capability to approach B29s from above where their top turret guns wouldn't reach. It took a very experienced pilot to do that and those were short on the ground by then. We bombed the turbocharger plant and the shortage and often poor quality of materials of those variants of that motor meant most of the best of those left would go to Mitsubishi's own J2M which was a good point defense interceptor whose 4 20mm cannons could make the pressurized interior of a B29 a vulnerability. Problems with shortages of turbocharged variants of the Kasei affected J2Ms as well. Le May didn't know what they had or didn't have in the way of reaching B29s altitude and his decision to go on low altitude nighttime incendiary raids for several other reasons, at least, made it a moot point. My dad was in on the occupation and said they had an underground assembly plant near Osaka putting out J2Ms.. Don't know if they were to get tubo second stages or not but our submarine blockade would've made the necessary alloys hard to come by.
Only one remains - on display in Japan. It was a rollercoaster of emotion finding out only one survived, that it was restored to flying condition, and after neglect is no longer flyable.
I’m not sure why people think the Ki-100 is remotely superior to the Ki-84. Ki-100’s engine is much too weak to keep up with most late war fighters and its armament is also somewhat lacking. Ki-100 was no doubt a very fine “accident” that punched way above its weight class, but it’s not comparable to most high performance late war fighters, Ki-84 included.
@@thomaszhang3101 The KI-84 SHOULD have been the better fighter no doubt. But in reality? Nope. You know which aircraft is better? The one that will actually takeoff and that you can fully open the throttle without exploding. In this case, its the Ki-100. Forget the theory. We are talking about what happened here. The Ki-84 on paper was far different from those on airfields in 45. Not close. Also, fuel quality was a problem. That's why many people claim the Ki-100 was the best fighter. Because of historical facts, not theory.
0:27 of course 1911. If I got a nickel every time I heard that date in any history-based video and in history class I would have enough nickel to make a Volta-made battery which would be able to replace a car battery. It appeared in Russian, American, Hungarian, German, etc. history as an important date.
Not saying much, as when this bird got operational the B29s were flying at less than 10,000 feet because of the jet stream affected accuracy above that level.
Not sure every bombing mission by b29s at 10k ft not forgetting atomic bombing x2 at 30+k ft. Did b29s fly all the way to Japan at 10k ft unlikely they must have decended to that altitude over target and were at 30k ft before and after ìm guessing anyone have answer
Yeah.. the US radar guys would see these flying off and after seeing the US fighters flying out to meet them called out "Forget it, its a Frank!" and the fighters were called back as they had no chance catching them where they were based !
The Americans had code names for all Japanese warplanes. Male names for fighters, female for bombers. The only nickname not used much was Zeke, as the Allies used the Japanese name Zero instead, most often.
"Zero" for the "A6M" makes sense since the plane's name, by the Japanese naming system for the Navy at the time, was the "Type 00" since the year was 2600 on the Japanese calender.
A Ki84 piloted by Sergeant Mixunori Fukuoka shot down Thomas McGuire's wingman, Major Jack Rittmayer in a head-on against the P38 on the same AAF mission in the Philippines that saw the second leading American Ace. Mcguire crash while maneuvering at low altitude with his drop tank attached. Fukuoka must've had some confidence in the Frank's armor to be doing a head-on against the multi .50 cal P38. Don't know the type of ammo they had but reportedly the Frank's pair of relatively low velocity 20 mm just disintegrated Major Rittmayer's Lightning.
He was lucky. Kaneyoshi Muto an outstanding japanese navy ace did the same manoeuver against corsairs and hellcats in 1945 while piloting a Kawanishi N1K the navy equivalent of the Ki84. He got hit in his engine and had to waterland over a lake, he drown in it. Head-on attacks were prefered by US pilots because hitherto they had much sturdier planed but in any case it was a really dangerous game. I heard some testimonies of surviving japanese pilots and most of them had never attempted head-on attacks which stroke me as a reason why they survived at all. Fukuoka was lucky his rounds hit anything at all which without a doubt saved him on that day.
@@vlad78th Well, actually 20mm on the Hayate was very fast firing, up to 900 rounds a minute and had a longer range than Zeros 20mm cannons. It all depends at which distance they started to engage each other. The 50 cal on the other hand that was used by the Japanese was dogshit from any distance further than 200 meters.
@@kenneth9874 Maybe more an Angle when two or more of the P38s were abreast ? I'm guessing of course. Rittmayer had 4 kills with three in a day so I'm wondering why none of the three could get guns on him sooner.
@@vlad78th They both used versions of that amazing little Nakajima Homare radial. It got it's power from relatively fast RPM and relatively high compression with pretty much the manifold pressure of single stage supercharged contemporaries. But the IJN seemed to hoard whatever high octane fuel got through our submarine pickets and that probably mitigated the Homare's failure odds. The "Franks" had pretty roomy water / methanol / alcohol injection tanks as they even used it for intercept takeoffs.. . . alcohol being for cylinder head cooling and the others for the anti-knocking Don't know as much about the N1K2-J version since it goes by different nomenclature. Seems a big fighter for such a small diameter radial whereas a tight package in a Ki84.
The title of this video claims the Ki-84 was able to intercept B-29's. So...how many B-29's did they intercept? The only number I've ever heard is 74 "lost" B-29's. Anyone out there have a more accurate number?
And at the same time the Americans were developing fighters to match and surpass them. As the war approached its inevitable and certain end, new piston- powered aircraft were no longer a priority. At the end of the day, their losses exceeded ours.
I was getting stuck on the terminology when the narrator kept calling the 疾風 (Ha-Ya-Te) Hates. Particularly kind of pluralizing them with an s that seemed like it should be HA-YA-TE-SU but I digress. Most of the pronunciation is sort of figured out. HaYaBuSa was another name that sounded a little off. Just not as bad as the HaYaTe somehow pronounced like Hates Strange sounding. It's not KiYoTo closer to how British seem to say line up in queue only with an 'O' so Just KyoTo same goes for ToKyo not ToKiYo
I'm surprised that any Japanese planes had armor or self sealing fuel tanks If the frank had replaced the zero, things might have worked differently for them It sounds like it was the Japanese version of the ME 262
The later versions of the zero had self sealing fuel tanks and armor as well. The A6M line started seeing things added to it constantly which reduced it's range. People seem to forget self sealing tanks were a luxury when the zero was designed and even at the start of the war they weren't a standard yet. Even then they were omitted due to weight restraints as the zero had the best fighter range of the war owing to keeping the weight as low as possible. Besides there would be no way to replace the Zero, a carrier aircraft with the Ki84, a land based aircraft created by the army. Japanese army aviation and navy aviation were seperate and one could even say deliberately kept apart as the navy and army didn't get along. Also Japan had a jet fighter program with the Kikka. It was developed mostly indigenously by the Japanese aviation industry with only minor help from Germany like sending an engine to reference from the me262 wich helped but was not copied for the kikkas design as the kikka was made to be a bit smaller.
Well, they learned pretty quickly and airplane that could outturn anything was useless if a few .50 cal rounds would light it up... losing an experienced pilot was a far greater loss than an airframe. The Germans and Japanese had plenty of good, viable, competitive fighters at the end war - but no pilots left to fly them.. In fact, for the Japanese the better use of their limited resources were Kamikaze attacks by pilots who could barely fly. Tragic.
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My grandfather escorted B-29's up high in P-39s, using zoom and boom attacks and that centerline firing gun that like AT&T, could really reach out and touch someone. If I was on the other Japanese side with some Ki-84's, I'd shred them all. You just side step and dance around those bullets, I did it for 5 years. Most all of the pilots back then were amateurish.
It's pronounced Ha-ya-te. ( はやて ). Not Hi-yah-tay. Certainly NOT as in " day ". The syllables are evenly pronounced with no stresses. But short and clipped.
Nakajima in 1912: Man im gonna go to the U.S.A to study Aviation and design planes and fly aircraft! 29 Years later in 1941: Hey dude, remember that guy named Nakajima that came from Japan to design aircraft? Yea man, i remember him what about him? Well uhh he designed planes for the army and now there uhhh Their what? *Their attacking Pearl Harbor*
Interesting video on Japanese WWII fighter aircrafts. As far as the Chinese Communist, Republican Chinese, and Indonesian Air Forces using captured Japanese fighters I do not know if this has any basis in reality. The Japanese made these aircrafts so the Japanese can keep these high performance fighters in operation. Neither the Chinese nor the Indonesians are industrially developed countries. They simply cannot make the spare parts needed to keep these airplanes in operation, so it is unlikely if not impossible for the Communist Chinese, Chinese Republicans, or Indonesians to use these captured Japanese fighter planes. Given this information is false I wonder what else in this video is also made up and have no basis in reality.
Well, American crew feared the B-29 itself even more. The B-29 was overengineered and rushed into production. More B-29's were downed by construction failures and engine fires than by enemy fighter planes or flak.
Ki-84 is more comparable to a… hmm, a longer ranged low alt version Spitfire? It’s too light and nimble to be compared to a P-47, plus it’s high alt performance is not the best. Actually, Ki-84 is somewhat comparable to the FW-190A5. Just a bit slower with perhaps worse linear energy retention, but more maneuverability and better maneuver energy retention. Rate of climb also better. In the real world Ki-84 and FW-190A/D will be comparable fighters due to their speed and climb performances, but in WT, where merges and dogfights are more common, Ki-84 reigns supreme.
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5:25 Love how that pilot bowed to the aircraft before climbing into the cockpit!
There is a vid on UA-cam where a WW2 Japanese Pilot in Japanese is introduced to a restored Zero. He walks to it and bows in reverence. Former enemy or not, it was a touching moment to watch.
The Ki-84 was the "Hah-Yah-Teh", NOT "Hate"'
Ah, a fellow corrector. I see your corrections are just as vain and useless as my own! Hahahahaha!!
Thanks
It's not Hah-Yah-Teh. It should be Ha-ya-te ( はやて ). The syllables are short and the last sound is clipped.
@@reynaldoflores4522 Not sure how you say Ki-84 in Japanese? Key ... ?
@@peternewman7940We call the official name “Yonn-Shiki Senn-tohki,” which means the Fourth Generation Army Aircraft Fighter. Sometimes, Hayate or Shippoo (疾風)
If the Ki-84 had stayed at Planes of Fame, it would still be flying today. What a loss.
If only the real world was a simple. No, it would have been destroyed in a [insert cause of destruction here].
@@neiloflongbeck5705 the PoF Zero is still flying.
@@pac1fic055 your assertion that the Ki-84 would still be flying if it hadn't left PoF has nothing to support it. This aircraft could have crashed at any time or have been grounded for countless other reasons.
Big Facts!! I understand why it was given back to it’s parent nation,, but
in the end it would’ve been better served being in the museum in America!!
@@ricardocorbie6803 Well that is the British Museum position on the Elgin marbles. Its really the same thing. In my humble opinion there is no moral case for retaining another country's cultural icons. Not when they are unique.
The only case you could make is that the country of origin had negligent hands.
The argument with the marbles is that they would have been corroded by Greek air-pollution - at least in former times. You would be aware that the Hayate is now preserved in the Chiran Peace Museum.
Love Japanese fighter aircraft, absolute gorgeous machines.
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They were very good. Towards the end, they suffered from shortages in supplies, fuel and experienced pilots. In the beginning they were better than most of the machines that they encountered in the skies
@@zillsburyy1 Average US person.
They made awesome flares......
@@zillsburyy1 eventhough they shit on the early US fighters with cardboard armor, let alone more improved planes of later designs lmao
Another Japanese WWII fighter with the speed and altitude to intercept the B29 was the Mitsubishi J2M Raiden fighter. Also named "Lightning Bolt ". ( 雷電 ). But like the Hayate, it was also a case of " too little, too late ".
That’s a good looking plane and it performed well.
Another awesome bite sized documentary as always. We consistently enjoy your videos and really appreciate the time and effort put forth each and every time we watch them.
Thanks a ton from the Howard family :)
Glad it was interesting! Thank you Howard family🙏
We also had a B-29 and P51 Mustang killer, the Fifith Generation Army Aircraft fighter.
They should never have renamed the company!
Wouldn't you love to drive a Nakajima Impreza WRX?
So true! Despite respecting Japanese reasons. Still whenever I see a Subaru I still regard it as a Nakajima. And just like with "Kawasaki" you are always looking for (and receiving) something stylish with that brand - something EXTRA - a touch of class!
Never heard of this plane but it’s pretty badass
My favorite piston engine plane of WW2. The Nakajima Ki-84 Hayate (Gale)!
Totally!
This fighter mixes lean with machine. smart looking.
Nakajima Ki-84 was a very good airplane powered by the Homare 21 direct-injection version of the engine, using water injection to aid the supercharger in giving the Ki-84 a rated 2,000 hp and well armed but as you stated the engine was plagued with defective parts and it was difficult to maintain not helped by increasingly few veterans. Nevertheless it was an excellent airplane! Good job 👍 👍👍
Thanks for watching 😉
@@MilitaryHistoryChannel1 yes, I'm really enjoying it as after I know not much about this airplane.
Another example that shows that good technology is only part of the winning formula. In fact, it's hard to say one aircraft is better than another. We can say "faster" but then the question is "at what altitude?" and so on. Is the aircraft fit for the role, theatre of operation, maintenance to keep it airworthy and available in sufficient numbers, etc are equally important if less exciting points to consider. Without trained, experienced pilots and an entire well-run logistical supply chain of techs, mechanics, parts and munitions the aircraft is worthless as a weapon of war. And timing is everything. "If this plane was available a year earlier it could have changed the war" Sure. But like the ME262, there were many reasons why they arrived in theatre too late for the game...
@@Mike-eq4ky well said and I agree with you as both are very good airplanes that simply arrived too late to make any difference and were built in too little numbers. But with fuel available and good pilots they made the difference....
@@paoloviti6156 Yes, forgot about the fuel issue which was HUGE for both the Germans and Japanese. We regularly flew 100/130/150 octane fuel to their maybe 85 octane. We could run smaller engines at higher manifold pressures then later adding water methanol injection. The Germans made good use of water methanol injection, which was actually a NACA idea from the US but the Germans made first use of it... I met a British test pilot at Duxford 20 years back who told me while testing Axis fighters if the Germans had the fuel we did they'd have had a much more level playing field power wise. You forget the importance of such a seemingly unimportant detail...
Ed's Ki-84 was restored on Orangethrpe in Orange County after he did an A6M. I watched it happen. The sales financed the original Chino POF operation
This channel is awesome!
I remember reading that in Japan the Ki-84 was put to compete with the Ki-100 and the german FW 190 A5, that was delivered to Japan by submarine, and while the Ki-100 was the supirior aircraft at the end of the test, the Ki 84 was a equal to the Fw 190, in that regard the Ki 84 was a excelent aircraft
That's right, we should not have given it back to those fools.
The Ki-100 was an emergency response to the failure of the Japanese inline, liquid cooled engine program. Production of the Japanese copy of the Db-605 never got of the ground due to technical issues and B-29 bombing raids. The Fw-190A that had a relatively narrow fuselage, was helpful in adapting the Ki-61 to radial engine power, thus creating the Ki-100.
You have to be joking. Ki-100 is good for this weight class, but its weak engine just cannot deliver the same perforce to match the Ki-84 or Fw190A5.
I’m not sure why the Japanese will consider the Ki-100 superior.
@@thomaszhang3101 The problem to you is, that I´m not joking, the coment I did was based in something I readed a while ago, where?, I believe in wikipedia, so maybe is a 60/40 true/false information, but, unless you find can data that can rebuke that information, you must acept what is in it, also in a war plane speed is not the most important, in a race aircraft, yes, but in a combat situation not so much, agility, maneuverabilityy, climb rate, turn rate, roll rate, dive and weapons, are more important, more if you are in a dogfight, or in a zoom and boom situation, and the Ki 100 was good at that
@@ricardobeltranmonribot3182 from what I learnt in IL2 sim and in WWII pilot interviews. Speed, speed in a dive and energy retention/rate of climb are the most important.
They allow you to boom and zoom, then spend more time at higher energy so you yourself won’t be boomed and zoomed. Even the Spitfire was not flown as a dogfight, but loved for its rate of climb. Turning ability was used more as a defensive measure.
Maybe the Japanese pilots who loved Ki-100 used to fly Ki-43 or Ki-61, in which case, I understand their love for Ki-100, especially given its diving characteristics. I still don’t think, however, that pilots who got used to the Ki-84 will be willing to fly against similar opponents while they themselves are in a Ki-100.
Great fighter plane this one
This plane helped Indonesia defend its independence from the Dutch invasion in 1946
Some excellent images there!
What a great "Informational Video" versus other Them VS. Them Videos!
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Between this plane and the N1K2J which one is the better plane?
0:51drafting the first paper mentioning terror bombing. ...that's one hell of a thing to have as part as your legacy!
Why does the channel have to run the Abrams Tank clip ten times a hour? It’s driving everyone nuts!
We should have kept the plane and in a safe place.
Its a shame so few of these aicrafts still remain. The KI-84 could potentially have been the best japanese fighter of ww2 but in reality, the KI-100 was. Much more reliable and it could actually dive with allied planes and keep up, unlike most japanese aircrafts.
And that Mitsubishi Kasei radial, when equipped with a 2nd stage turbocharger gave the variants of Ki 100 that got that motor plus the J2M the altitude capability to approach B29s from above where their top turret guns wouldn't reach. It took a very experienced pilot to do that and those were short on the ground by then. We bombed the turbocharger plant and the shortage and often poor quality of materials of those variants of that motor meant most of the best of those left would go to Mitsubishi's own J2M which was a good point defense interceptor whose 4 20mm cannons could make the pressurized interior of a B29 a vulnerability. Problems with shortages of turbocharged variants of the Kasei affected J2Ms as well. Le May didn't know what they had or didn't have in the way of reaching B29s altitude and his decision to go on low altitude nighttime incendiary raids for several other reasons, at least, made it a moot point.
My dad was in on the occupation and said they had an underground assembly plant near Osaka putting out J2Ms.. Don't know if they were to get tubo second stages or not but our submarine blockade would've made the necessary alloys hard to come by.
Only one remains - on display in Japan. It was a rollercoaster of emotion finding out only one survived, that it was restored to flying condition, and after neglect is no longer flyable.
@@briantien7146 Yep, I've read the story about that one.
I’m not sure why people think the Ki-100 is remotely superior to the Ki-84.
Ki-100’s engine is much too weak to keep up with most late war fighters and its armament is also somewhat lacking.
Ki-100 was no doubt a very fine “accident” that punched way above its weight class, but it’s not comparable to most high performance late war fighters, Ki-84 included.
@@thomaszhang3101 The KI-84 SHOULD have been the better fighter no doubt. But in reality? Nope. You know which aircraft is better? The one that will actually takeoff and that you can fully open the throttle without exploding. In this case, its the Ki-100. Forget the theory. We are talking about what happened here. The Ki-84 on paper was far different from those on airfields in 45. Not close. Also, fuel quality was a problem. That's why many people claim the Ki-100 was the best fighter. Because of historical facts, not theory.
The plane at 6:15 is Ki-44 Shoki -Tojo, isn't it?
what about the Ki-61? What service used that? just wondering
"Eleven Hates attacked US airfields on Okinawa"
Oh Murica...
0:27 of course 1911. If I got a nickel every time I heard that date in any history-based video and in history class I would have enough nickel to make a Volta-made battery which would be able to replace a car battery. It appeared in Russian, American, Hungarian, German, etc. history as an important date.
Great video, just a teeny point though. It's pronounced "Haya-tay" not "Hate".
Still a great aircraft along with the Zero, Hayasusa and Shinden
Not saying much, as when this bird got operational the B29s were flying at less than 10,000 feet because of the jet stream affected accuracy above that level.
Not sure every bombing mission by b29s at 10k ft not forgetting atomic bombing x2 at 30+k ft. Did b29s fly all the way to Japan at 10k ft unlikely they must have decended to that altitude over target and were at 30k ft before and after ìm guessing anyone have answer
Yeah.. the US radar guys would see these flying off and after seeing the US fighters flying out to meet them called out "Forget it, its a Frank!" and the fighters were called back as they had no chance catching them where they were based !
I just noticed that a lot of Japanese ww2 planes have an Americanised nick name.
The Americans had code names for all Japanese warplanes. Male names for fighters, female for bombers. The only nickname not used much was Zeke, as the Allies used the Japanese name Zero instead, most often.
"Zero" for the "A6M" makes sense since the plane's name, by the Japanese naming system for the Navy at the time, was the "Type 00" since the year was 2600 on the Japanese calender.
Haven't we seen this video before?
A Ki84 piloted by Sergeant Mixunori Fukuoka shot down Thomas McGuire's wingman, Major Jack Rittmayer in a head-on against the P38 on the same AAF mission in the Philippines that saw the second leading American Ace. Mcguire crash while maneuvering at low altitude with his drop tank attached. Fukuoka must've had some confidence in the Frank's armor to be doing a head-on against the multi .50 cal P38. Don't know the type of ammo they had but reportedly the Frank's pair of relatively low velocity 20 mm just disintegrated Major Rittmayer's Lightning.
He was lucky. Kaneyoshi Muto an outstanding japanese navy ace did the same manoeuver against corsairs and hellcats in 1945 while piloting a Kawanishi N1K the navy equivalent of the Ki84. He got hit in his engine and had to waterland over a lake, he drown in it. Head-on attacks were prefered by US pilots because hitherto they had much sturdier planed but in any case it was a really dangerous game. I heard some testimonies of surviving japanese pilots and most of them had never attempted head-on attacks which stroke me as a reason why they survived at all. Fukuoka was lucky his rounds hit anything at all which without a doubt saved him on that day.
@@vlad78th Well, actually 20mm on the Hayate was very fast firing, up to 900 rounds a minute and had a longer range than Zeros 20mm cannons. It all depends at which distance they started to engage each other. The 50 cal on the other hand that was used by the Japanese was dogshit from any distance further than 200 meters.
It wasn't quite head on
@@kenneth9874 Maybe more an Angle when two or more of the P38s were abreast ? I'm guessing of course. Rittmayer had 4 kills with three in a day so I'm wondering why none of the three could get guns on him sooner.
@@vlad78th They both used versions of that amazing little Nakajima Homare radial. It got it's power from relatively fast RPM and relatively high compression with pretty much the manifold pressure of single stage supercharged contemporaries. But the IJN seemed to hoard whatever high octane fuel got through our submarine pickets and that probably mitigated the Homare's failure odds. The "Franks" had pretty roomy water / methanol / alcohol injection tanks as they even used it for intercept takeoffs.. . . alcohol being for cylinder head cooling and the others for the anti-knocking Don't know as much about the N1K2-J version since it goes by different nomenclature. Seems a big fighter for such a small diameter radial whereas a tight package in a Ki84.
Is it a feature of your voice-to-text software that the Ki-84 aircraft is pronounced KEE-84, instead of Kay Eye-84?
That is the correct pronunciation in Japanese, I think. We anglicize it to K-I- 84.
The pronunciation of Ki-84 or any of the planes named using the Ki naming system or (キ) is KEE as it is a single phonetic character in Japanese.
That IS the correct pronunciation! Not Kay Eye. Ki ( き ). Pronounced with a short, clipped sound.
@@reynaldoflores4522 Thank you
The title of this video claims the Ki-84 was able to intercept B-29's. So...how many B-29's did they intercept? The only number I've ever heard is 74 "lost" B-29's. Anyone out there have a more accurate number?
500 b29 lost ww2 to all causes 74 lost to e/a attacks seems very low
If it looks right, it flies right.
And at the same time the Americans were developing fighters to match and surpass them. As the war approached its inevitable and certain end, new piston- powered aircraft were no longer a priority. At the end of the day, their losses exceeded ours.
I was getting stuck on the terminology when the narrator kept calling the 疾風 (Ha-Ya-Te) Hates. Particularly kind of pluralizing them with an s that seemed like it should be HA-YA-TE-SU but I digress. Most of the pronunciation is sort of figured out. HaYaBuSa was another name that sounded a little off. Just not as bad as the HaYaTe somehow pronounced like Hates Strange sounding.
It's not KiYoTo closer to how British seem to say line up in queue only with an 'O' so Just KyoTo same goes for ToKyo not ToKiYo
I'm surprised that any Japanese planes had armor or self sealing fuel tanks
If the frank had replaced the zero, things might have worked differently for them
It sounds like it was the Japanese version of the ME 262
you mean the Nakajima Kikka
The later versions of the zero had self sealing fuel tanks and armor as well. The A6M line started seeing things added to it constantly which reduced it's range. People seem to forget self sealing tanks were a luxury when the zero was designed and even at the start of the war they weren't a standard yet. Even then they were omitted due to weight restraints as the zero had the best fighter range of the war owing to keeping the weight as low as possible. Besides there would be no way to replace the Zero, a carrier aircraft with the Ki84, a land based aircraft created by the army. Japanese army aviation and navy aviation were seperate and one could even say deliberately kept apart as the navy and army didn't get along. Also Japan had a jet fighter program with the Kikka. It was developed mostly indigenously by the Japanese aviation industry with only minor help from Germany like sending an engine to reference from the me262 wich helped but was not copied for the kikkas design as the kikka was made to be a bit smaller.
Well, they learned pretty quickly and airplane that could outturn anything was useless if a few .50 cal rounds would light it up... losing an experienced pilot was a far greater loss than an airframe. The Germans and Japanese had plenty of good, viable, competitive fighters at the end war - but no pilots left to fly them.. In fact, for the Japanese the better use of their limited resources were Kamikaze attacks by pilots who could barely fly. Tragic.
NO the FW 190 g
Nakajimi?? Multiple times??
Nakajima. 中島 ( なかじま ) Pronounced Na-ka-ji-ma. In English it means something like " middle island ".
Not pronounced hate, it's broken down in syllables.Ha - Ya- Te.
No info on armament or number of B-29s they shot down?
It varied between variants but the original one had 2x 20mm and 2x 12.7mm
Edi Wibowo -> BW30
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My grandfather escorted B-29's up high in P-39s, using zoom and boom attacks and that centerline firing gun that like AT&T, could really reach out and touch someone.
If I was on the other Japanese side with some Ki-84's, I'd shred them all.
You just side step and dance around those bullets, I did it for 5 years.
Most all of the pilots back then were amateurish.
Hyate. I think it's pronounced "Hi-yah-tay (as in "day"). Carry on.
It's pronounced Ha-ya-te. ( はやて ). Not Hi-yah-tay. Certainly NOT as in " day ". The syllables are evenly pronounced with no stresses. But short and clipped.
The name Hayate got butched hard in this video
Rare bird.
Not as rare as the TBD Devastator, which many more were made lol...it's amazing really.
It looks like a cross between a P47 and an F4F Wildcat
Nakajima in 1912: Man im gonna go to the U.S.A to study Aviation and design planes and fly aircraft!
29 Years later in 1941: Hey dude, remember that guy named Nakajima that came from Japan to design aircraft?
Yea man, i remember him what about him?
Well uhh he designed planes for the army and now there uhhh
Their what?
*Their attacking Pearl Harbor*
Ironic
Wakka knocka jeema socka
😀 Yaah, beautiful nice looking birds !!!
too little too late
It would be nice of you can put some effort into at least pronouncing the name correctly. You know rhere is at least google.
I know but I can't complain because my own English pronunciation is not so very good , either.
Interesting video on Japanese WWII fighter aircrafts. As far as the Chinese Communist, Republican Chinese, and Indonesian Air Forces using captured Japanese fighters I do not know if this has any basis in reality. The Japanese made these aircrafts so the Japanese can keep these high performance fighters in operation. Neither the Chinese nor the Indonesians are industrially developed countries. They simply cannot make the spare parts needed to keep these airplanes in operation, so it is unlikely if not impossible for the Communist Chinese, Chinese Republicans, or Indonesians to use these captured Japanese fighter planes. Given this information is false I wonder what else in this video is also made up and have no basis in reality.
B29s only had to worry about enemy flak then fighters because Japan did not have a fighter intercept the B29s because of their high altitude.
Well, American crew feared the B-29 itself even more. The B-29 was overengineered and rushed into production. More B-29's were downed by construction failures and engine fires than by enemy fighter planes or flak.
This video takes butchery of the Japanese language to new heights. Pun intended!
Yes. But I can't complain because my own English pronunciation is not very good, either!
Sounds like an attempt to manufacture a P47.
Their attempt to build a thunderbolt
The role seems different.
@@peternewman7940 is it? They were both built for high altitude performance with heavy armament and radial engines...
@@kenneth9874 So?
@@robertbuchin455 so what fool?
It is pronounced Kay Eye….not kee !
no it isn't. Ki is an abbreviation of hikoki.
It seems the Ki-84 is Japan’s answer to the Republic P-47.
Yes. The specs are comparable to a P47.
Ki-84 is more comparable to a… hmm, a longer ranged low alt version Spitfire?
It’s too light and nimble to be compared to a P-47, plus it’s high alt performance is not the best.
Actually, Ki-84 is somewhat comparable to the FW-190A5. Just a bit slower with perhaps worse linear energy retention, but more maneuverability and better maneuver energy retention. Rate of climb also better.
In the real world Ki-84 and FW-190A/D will be comparable fighters due to their speed and climb performances, but in WT, where merges and dogfights are more common, Ki-84 reigns supreme.
@@thomaszhang3101 Ki-84 Hayate is really comparable with F4U Corsair
this is a waste of time,FALSE information
What was false in this video exactly?
Looks like an FW
Japanese jug