DWX Compact - CZ meets 1911s!
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2023
- Dan Wesson makes awesome 1911/2011 style pistols and the DWX line of pistols mixes some of the bits of the CZ lineup of pistols into the mix!
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Having seen and given them a shot at the store, both Dwx models are really nice, but the lack of an optics cut at that price point is unfortunate.
The DWX would have dominated if it was released when they first planned to release it. Now it needs an optics cut. Both are nice
Optics Ready is a huge + for me . Have 0 clue why DW did not make a modern slide with optics cut . Its 2023 . They'll still sell rack of them because its cool AF but S2C O.R. is what id take every single time ..
You answered your own question. It seems pretty clear to me now that parent company CZ didn't want the DWX Compact directly competing with the Shadow 2 Compact, so they mandated that it be initially sold without rail or optics mount.
@@grafja Maybe . DWX actually debut in at SHOT in 2019 or 2020 . They teased this pistol for couple years. They took an extra 3 years to bring the DWX to market but failed to make OPTICS READY slide . Makes 0 sense to me .
Whether they did not want the DWX to compete the S2C O.R. or TS2 still does not make any sense . Why wouldn't you want a company you own to thrive with their new pistol series .
@@xtreme4stringbass That's awesome . I'm not one of those people . I ran irons for damn near 12 years . I switched to MRDS 8 years ago and have not looked back . I can still run irons pretty well but nowhere to the same level as I can MRDS .
I will more than likely never go back BUIS only on my go too pistols. The only time I shoot irons is on pistols that were given to me by my family and I'm keeping them in their stock form .
I prefer being target focused Vs front sight focused. I know you can be target focused on BUIS it just take way more time and training. My eyes prefer dot floating through space vs equal height / equal light
@@seanwhite304 nobody is one of those people. He's just a fud that probably can't even produce a consistent presentation and has to search out his dot, hence the "downgrade" comment. Optics are better in EVERY. SINGLE. AREA. of practical shooting. To call them a downgrade is laughable, nobody that can actually run a gun thinks that. The only downside (save open emitters possibly getting gunked up) is hardware failure...but that's why you keep lower 1/3 irons on defense guns.
Good Gun How much Indian price
I just picked up the cz shadow compact. Absolutely love it shoots like a champ
Got both, LOVE THEM!
I just brought home the DWX full size. I would probably get the DWX Compact if I can find the pic rail version in stock. I prefer single action over DA/SA.
I have CZ and Dan Wesson handguns so very familiar with both. I was going to buy the DWX compact, but now the CZ Shadow 2 compact edges it out. Optics ready and I really like and shoot the full size Shadow 2 well so going to buy it in compact when the prices settle down.
I'm going the other way DWX compact edges out the new shadow compact for me. I dont run or need a red dot on my EDC. And that constant straight pull single action trigger is great.
I already have the dwx compact, but I think I need to get a shadow2 compact as well. Damnit
How do you like it ?
I'm in the reverse situation from you. I have an S2Compact that I love and now I want a DWX Compact. But when you do it in this order, spending the extra $$ for the DWX Compact is an even more bitter pill to swallow. That may not however stop me. I felt the DWX Compact at a local gun shop and it felt sooo good in my hand.
@@gair1944 i got the s2c now…it seems hard to choose which one is my favorite, but I don’t have to because they are so different. The dwx def does feel more slick and streamlined but the s2c just begs to go fast.
The DWX certainly shoots a bit more accurately and smoother, however having to spend a few hundred to get the slide cut for an optic makes the optics ready Shadows a much better deal. After shooting both the DWX and Shadow2, I still opted for the DWX and sent it back to CZ Customs for an optic cut, very happy with it.
All of these guns are more accurate than shooters themselves. You may shoot one better than another, but practically one is not "more accurate." That's just your perspective. Another person may walk up and shoot the Shadow better than the DWX.
Which one is "more accurate" then?
If you are trying to improve accuracy, speed, whatever else it is MUCH CHEAPER to purchase staccato or Dan Wesson. You can buy Glock 19 for $500 dollars, which sounds “cheaper”, but the ammo cost, your time and effort which you spend getting similar results will easily surpass the price of DWX or staccato in few months.
CZ meant something releasing DWX compact for $1800-1900 and Shadow 2 compact for $1200-1300. I doubt that the main idea was to sell similarly shooting guns at a different price. 1911 style trigger is better than double/single action for accuracy. DWX is just a better made gun.
DWX with/when with an optic plate & pic rail and I will really consider one.
Have a Dwx compact on layaway . Can’t wait to shoot it .
I have a Tactical Sports Orange in 40 S&W, love that pistol...Shadow 2 is on my wish list as I want a DA/SA hammer pistol and honestly for the money the CZ's are hard to beat...with that being said, I could get both my Shadow 2 and a new CC pistol in one purchase...The Dan Wesson looks nice, but like others have pointed out, Pic rail and optic ready are significant considering the pistol is marketed for carry.
I don't understand why everybody makes such a big deal over everything needing to be optics ready with a rail. That's not the only configuration for a great gun.
You should review the full size dwx.
Well I picked the cz and very happy with it
I'd go for the shadow 2 compact from those two. Lower price point (when available, and not inflated) plus the rail and being optics ready are huge selling points. I've been enjoying my CZ TS2 for a while now (got the slide cut for an optic) so it wouldn't take much to transition. I would want to finger fondle one before laying out any cash though. Mostly over the DA aspect of the trigger. Pretty sure I'd carry it in condition 1, since I prefer SA triggers.
Oh man! Love this
I picked the S2C, I got it for 1250. I already have a DWX full size. The S2C is phenomenal.
I have a DWX Compact. LOVE IT. Incredibly accurate. 2nd best pistol I own.
What's the best?
I second that..what is the best
@@josephstenakaMy Beretta 92G Vertec Centurian is incredibly accurate. Its my "daily carry" as I trust my life with it.
I will get both and have the slide milled for an optic on the DWX.
Shadow 2comp for me. Checked out the DWX comp at Riflegear in Dallas but I didn’t care for the barrel wiggle. Haven’t seen the S2 comp yet but hoping it
is as tight as its big
brother. I’m a staccato convert beginning with C, graduating to a P and recently purchased a C2. Changed grip to the
Gen2. Had Vulcan GW install red dirt trigger, DLC the barrel and had them do the Vulcan optic cut for a Holosun 507c-GR. Best pistol I’ve ever owned. Soooo, S2 Comp has a high standard to meet or come close to 😅
People talk about Glock mag compatibility, but for the decerning gentleman, CZ 75 mag compatibility is amazing.
If I had to pick between the two, I'd say the Shawdow 2 compact. I don't actually care for DA/SA guns even though I own a few. However, I will not buy another new gun without optics compatibility. Also, I can't take a gun seriously for personal defense without a weapon light. If the DWX gets an optic plate, pic rail, and ambi safety, I would definitely consider it.
😂 really like your sense of humor, makes me laugh every time!
Shadow 2 compact for me, I like the optic capability. I'm sure the dwx is a great shooter, but seems like while they were doing all that precise machine work they could have put an optic cut in there. However I've seen on some pistols the internals do not allow for that. Might be the case for the dwx? Does the shadow 2 compact use a firing pin block? I've seen some videos that say yes, while other videos say it does not.
Call me old fashioned, but I prefer iron sights for a carry weapon. I carry a cajun P01, so the DWX is where I'd put my money for no other reason than it's a little more unique from my daily carry than the shadow compact.
Not old fashioned, wise.
Pistol dots are fun tools, but they're yet just one more piece of gear that requires care. I've had both an RMR and a Meprolight fail on me.
Glad you had a good experience with CGW, I'd never let them touch another of my firearms since they forgot to re-install an ejector after a trigger job.
Sorry, but if you install a new trigger, you go into the backyard and verify function.
@@JD-tn5lz Yikes! To clarify, i just ordered their parts and installed them myself. Stories like yours definitely make me wary of shipping firearms across the country.
Cz I never have shot the shadow two or the other pistol. I have shot a couple p10c's and p10 s's. Love how they feel in the hand and how well thy shoot. A real natural feel
You haven't shot a CZ until you've shot a CZ-75-series pistol😁 seriously, the cz75 has more copies out there than Glock for good reason. Next to 1911s, the 75 is the most pirated and copied gun out there.
The CZ, because being optics ready is important
as you said " im flush with cash and have to pick between the 2" - i want the DWX
Thanks for the video and info. Easy to pretend I hate money since my spending habits prove it; I'm picking the S2C for sure. Surprised but pleased you preferred the S2C over this dwx compact. I bet the dwx compact is good but no optic and more expensive makes it tough. I prefer a rail but carry without a light frequently, but rail version planned I think. Glad the "cheaper" S2C won you over but seems like we are going to have to wait for the S2C to come down to or under MSRP...
Thanks!
Welcome! thank you!
I'd go for the dwx compact the shadow compact I see no need as a p01 is my choice
Will there be the usual full range reviews of this and the S2C?
I picked the Shadow 2 Compact, gets here next week. :)
Do threaded barrels for the DWX compact exist?
Shadow 2 compact all the way. Optic ready, pic rail, costs less, most likely shoots just as well.
Yep I REALLY wanted one but after another version NOT optics ready, I guess I’m passing again Lol 🤷♂️ thanks DAD!! 👍😂
Yo! Loving the triggercon content.
DWX compact with rail and optic cut, just ordered.
I have both the DWX Compact and the Shadow 2 Compact. I've put 3,200 rounds through the former and 100 rounds through the latter (I picked it up 3 days ago). Both shoot and feel phenomenal. Personally, I like not having the rail on the DWX, as it is my CCW and it makes the pistol more streamlined. As for the optics issue, I have no experience with them, so I don't feel like I'm missing out on the DWX. That being said, I purchased a EPS Carry for my Shadow 2 Compact, so maybe I'll feel differently in a few thousand rounds.
How do u feel about the two now? Which is softer shooting?
I like them both. Due to the lack of a decocker on the CZ, I only run it in single action. Given that, the Dan Wesson has the better single actiom trigger and the better safety. Personally, I don't like pic rails on handguns and I don't like weapon mounted lights, so the DW suits my tastes more there. The CZ really turned me on to optics, however. So much so that my DW has been at Cajun Gun Works getting milled for an EPS Carry. Overall, I like them both a lot. I have 3200 rounds through the DW and 1500 through the CZ. As a carry gun, I'll stick to the DW.
I like them both. Due to the lack of a decocker on the CZ, I only run it in single action. Given that, the Dan Wesson has the better single actiom trigger and the better safety. Personally, I don't like pic rails on handguns and I don't like weapon mounted lights, so the DW suits my tastes more there. The CZ really turned me on to optics, however. So much so that my DW has been at Cajun Gun Works getting milled for an EPS Carry. Overall, I like them both a lot. I have 3200 rounds through the DW and 1500 through the CZ. As a carry gun, I'll stick to the DW.
I like them both. Due to the lack of a decocker on the CZ, I only run it in single action. Given that, the Dan Wesson has the better single actiom trigger and the better safety. Personally, I don't like pic rails on handguns and I don't like weapon mounted lights, so the DW suits my tastes more there. The CZ really turned me on to optics, however. So much so that my DW has been at Cajun Gun Works getting milled for an EPS Carry. Overall, I like them both a lot. I have 3200 rounds through the DW and 1500 through the CZ. As a carry gun, I'll stick to the DW.
I like them both. Due to the lack of a decocker on the CZ, I only run it in single action. Given that, the Dan Wesson has the better single actiom trigger and the better safety. Personally, I don't like pic rails on handguns and I don't like weapon mounted lights, so the DW suits my tastes more there. The CZ really turned me on to optics, however. So much so that my DW has been at Cajun Gun Works getting milled for an EPS Carry. Overall, I like them both a lot. I have 3200 rounds through the DW and 1500 through the CZ. As a carry gun, I'll stick to the DW.
Love my holosuns too much cant go back to irons so its CZ Compact all the way if I had to chose . Also with the $400 you save you can buy a 508T for it
Since I shoot an s2 already the compact is where I’d spend my money.
The CZ for sure.
Now that they offer the DWX compact with a rail and optics ready, I’ll be picking up the DWX for sure 🥳🥳🥳 I prefer the larger surface area on the slide that you get with the Dan Wesson, and the 1911 style trigger. Now that it’s light and optics ready, it’s a no brainer for me.
Even with my 67 year old eyes I have no problem hitting with iron sights (or fiber-optic), so I would go with the DWX. I have several reflex set-ups I play around with, but keep gravitating back to my traditionals. Maybe I’m just old and set in my ways, but I know what works and makes me happy 😉.
It’s a tough choice, but I’m with the Shadow 2 Compact crowd. It comes down to optic cut at a better price.
Hopefully DW offers the optic version soon.
What I truly, madly, deeply want is all the features and reliability of the Arex Zero, in the DWX compact frame& trigger. And as the tremendously large percentage of the market agrees, optic cut.
So i guess Shadow 2 compact? I dont know
Shadow 2 Compact. The mags are less expensive and it is already cut for an optic.
Hoping we see a full look at that new Kimber. Very curious to see your read.
They do offer the DWX compact with a rail. I called and asked if they plan on making an optic cut and they said' " they is no talk of it in the near future." I bought a C2.
Picked up the Shadow 2 compact. Sold it to me for $1188, which is $10 above dealer cost..... It doesn't disappoint. The screws on the optic cut cover are extremely easy to strip and just be careful removing them. Gun is DA/SA which helps this gun out tremendously because the safety is horrible.. Not a gun I'd carry cocked and locked!!
Which would I take? I’d go with the DWX Compact simply because I believe a DA/SA gun like the Shadow 2 Compact really isn’t suitable for carry without a decocker. The DWX Compact in Condition 1 (cocked and locked) is less of a risk/liability in an IWB holster than a pistol that requires the trigger to be pulled on a loaded chamber to carefully lower the hammer to the 1/4 cocked position for DA carry.
I really appreciate your comparisons between this and the Shadow 2 compact. I am an avid IDPA competitor and based on your comparison of both this and the Shadow 2 compact, which one do you think would be a better fit for use in the IDPA CCP division?
Did you ever come to a conclusion as to which is better for IDPA? DWX compact or Shadow 2 Compact?
welcome back
I purchased a cz shadow 2 compact out the door for $1272. I haven't had the pleasure of shooting a DWX as of yet. It would be hard to justify paying $650 more for a non optic or accessory rail ready carry gun.
CZ S2C definitely for me.
Lol “I’d take a Glock and $1000”
That’s actually a great idea 😂
The $1000 just may bring it up to "perfection". ;-)
Hopefully there will be a dwx 2 coming out soon thats built to today’s standard features at the same price. I nicer slide design wouldn’t hurt either.
is hard for cz shadow 2 orange vs dwx full size, but its easy for compact , CZ shadow 2 compact for sure
I’d take the CZ every day and twice on Sunday.
I'm a CZ boy, I'd have to take the S2 over the DWX. I really don't feel any need to upgrade from my P-01 though.
Man when the DWX full sized came out and used P10F mags I was so hopeful there’d be compact that shared mags with my P10c, but making it CZ 75 compact mags was a real head scratcher. I wonder why they did that
I was more confused why the full size didn't use cz 75 mags
@@gric111 the barrel on the full size is basically a P10 series barrel, chamber, and feed ramp with a different lug on the bottom for the slide release to slot through, maybe it was more reliable feeding from those magazines
@@S1deshowRob very reliable so far. 600 rounds with absolutely no issues at all. The DWX full size is awesome. I probably will get the compact or maybe be a Masterpiece Arms Commander size. Still torn on that !
@@S1deshowRob I just meant from its basically a shadow 2 and 1911 baby
So I expected cz75 mags not based on the barrel and such
Hmm. The very first thing I noticed was the lack of an optics cut. So, I guess I'd go with the Shadow 2C. Or the Kimber...
I think the better question is would you have a SAS II ULTRALIGHT 3.25” COMP over the dwx and that comes ready for optics
Yes the UL comp for sure
I would opt for the DWX as I prefer sa over da/sa.
I would take the Shadow 2 compact.
CZ S2 because I have enough small frame CZ parts to give it a really nice trigger.
It seems pretty clear to me now that parent company CZ didn't want the DWX Compact directly competing with their new project they've been working on for years, the Shadow2 Compact, so they mandated that it be sold without rail or optics mount. I don't mind getting it cut for optics but getting the rail cut seems too much. A big selling point of the DWX's are their DLC coating and rail modifications would undoubtedly make a mess of that.
Both look great. I’ll take the one that feels and shoots the most like the Shadow 2s I compete with, and get an optic on there, all up for about the same price as the other one. ;-)
I already own a DWX compact and then my LGS got in a shadow 2 compact. I was planning to buy it to, but changed my mind once I saw it. It was very nice, but I really like the wesson better. One big strike on the shadow 2 was the safety lever is so low profile that it is basically not functional. So much that I would not have carried cocked and locked. No way I could rely on that thing in stress. Just my two cents. I ended up buying a nighthawk delegate instead.
I posed on the DWX compact and a week or two later bought the Shadow 2 compact. Optics cut was the reason.
Baffled the DWX doesn’t have one.
😎🤘🍻. Another nice firearm
For sure
I want a DWX Compact with a Rail.
I would take the DWX and have some cut the slide for Optic.
CZ Shadow 2 Compact
Hey David, I was in that exact dilemma. The feel of the DW was nice and the slide slickness rivals my Bul SasII Tac 4.25. However the DW is not optic ready, the grip did not secure my hand and there is no pic rail. So I opted for the Shadow 2. Not sad at all, but I did eyebal a p320 Spectre Comp. OHHH YEAH, Might be my first 320. If I can get over my fear of carrying it, lol . Be Safe Brother, and "WATCHYOR6".
I prefer 1911 pattern pistols but DA/SA and a safety with options for optics and or a light make the CZ my choice. But if i had 3500 to spend i would get both. I dont like light and optics for carry as it makes it harder ro use that way for me. But at home yes want both.
Do you have concealed carry insurance and if you do who and why? Have you ever heard of attorneys on retainer it is a law firm not insurance. What is your thoughts?
DWX is a good gun for sure. It’s smaller and all its edges are rounded, which makes it very comfortable to carry. It has a perfect 1911 style trigger, do not get why so many people “need” to mount collimator on a gun which shoots perfectly. It’s not a competition gun, it’s a carry weapon.
If you don’t want optics it’s strong
I do not need collimator on my carry guns. If I cannot reliably hit the target at 5-10 yards then nothing will save me. Collimators just add bulk to the gun if I am carrying IWB. Speaking of reliability while using collimator… Each time I have to make sure that it’s sighted well, that the battery is not dead, that is not too sunny outside... to adjust the dot… etc! it’s way too much. I am talking about Holosun 407. DWX price tag is high, I agree but all D&W 1911s are priced very close to $2000. I think DWX worth it’s tag just the way it’s build. I purchased CZ p10c for $330 brand new, and it’s very good gun but I am still carrying DWX and Guardian cause I shoot them better. Can hit targets one-handed at 10-15 yards, which is also very important in a defensive type scenario. I do much worse with Glocks and other plastic guns. The carry gun should be your best shooting gun which is very often means more expensive.
Leaning towards Shadow 2 compact.
What do u think of the Girsan hi-power LW?😊
I'd love to find out - but I don't have one.
I got enough Glocks (for now),aesthetically I’d say Dwix but the optic and rail plus the cheaper price dictate I’d go w shadow .
Since you mentioned I had cash I’d buy DWX and have the slide milled for a red dot
I’ll still take the CZ, because it’s DA/SA!
Shadow, no hesitations.
What are the cool glasses you’re wearing?
Heatwave Visual
I think I'm going with the CZ Shadow 2 Compact. OR is a major plus, shame the DWX Compact didn't have it...
I bought a DWX Compact for IDPA. The gun shoots great, but P-01 and Shadow 2 Compact mags DO NOT work in it. The DWX has special thin base pads, and standard P-01 mag base pads are too thick to lock in. So, if you buy one, plan on another $20 per mag to buy the DWX proprietary pads. Or you can use larger CZ75 mags, but they won’t fit flush.
I need optics so I would take the Shadow 2.
I’ll vote for the DWX, only because DA/SA without a decocker is just so inconvenient. And it’s an interesting mutt.
Is the DWX compact also an aluminum frame or steel?
Yes both are alloy
@@TheHumbleMarksman
That wouldn't narrow it down. I'm guessing both have aluminum frames.
Both iron and aluminum 'alloys' exist.
Steel is an alloy of iron + carbon +xyz that usually has triple the yield strength of aluminum alloys and aluminum weighs a third of steel. Being not specific leads to the S&W 'Metal' being confused by some. In reviews maybe you can add if something is cut from billet, cast or forged.
CZ Shadow 2 compact for the win. Optics, rail, double action. If it had a decocker and a threaded barrel, it would be perfect. However, dropping the hammer to the half-cocked position isn't a problem. A threaded barrel is obtainable.
If the DWX has a firing pin block that's what I'd chose...if not then the Shadow 2 because I can thumb roll it into de-cock.
DWX is series 70 style 1911 action
I don’t understand the reason for making a pistol in 2023 without an optic cut or pic rail, esp for around 2K
Sure everyone doesn’t want a light and/or red dot but let them decide.
Bc of the price AND lack of accessories I’d take a shadow 2 compact
No optics cut? I guess I’m blowing my load on the shadow 2.
Honestly, I’d probably just get the BUL tac 4.25 at that price point.
DWX compact for me.
Not optiks ready ?
Have they been living under a rock
Dwx if I had no financial worries
My choice would be S2C. Much, much better value and it's optics ready. (I own a full-sized DWX and full-sized S2 OR so I'm basing my opinion on my experiences with both of those).
DWX!!!!!!!!
I'd take the DWX since you didn't say I couldn't sell it, HA! IF I have to keep it, I'll take the Shadow 2 Compact since I'm woefully low on DA/SA guns with Optics cuts and I've never owned a CZ pattern gun.