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  • @linnstensson3808
    @linnstensson3808 2 місяці тому +53

    Sall Grover is a hero

    • @RealFarknMcCoy
      @RealFarknMcCoy 2 місяці тому

      Sall Grover is a loser and a bigot. She lost because she was breaking the law.

    • @GrahamBorland-cz8cx
      @GrahamBorland-cz8cx Місяць тому +1

      ​@@RealFarknMcCoyThe law's an ass.

  • @haitch2676
    @haitch2676 2 місяці тому +66

    You can’t win an argument against the insane

    • @Anna-vl4ju
      @Anna-vl4ju 2 місяці тому +1

      How true

    • @michelledavis2604
      @michelledavis2604 Місяць тому

      You mean Helen is insane. Some of the things dhe claims are blatantly not true.

    • @Anna-vl4ju
      @Anna-vl4ju Місяць тому +3

      @@michelledavis2604 Exactly what thing ?

    • @Michelle-Davis
      @Michelle-Davis Місяць тому

      @@haitch2676 are you insane?

    • @hospitalsgivingpatientsdan8894
      @hospitalsgivingpatientsdan8894 Місяць тому

      @@haitch2676 some people do not like biological facts because they believe feelings matter more

  • @ktwashere5637
    @ktwashere5637 2 місяці тому +90

    I didn't think it was possible to be angrier about this issue but here we are. I am ashamed to be Australian.
    This is why we need to push back against birth certificates being reissued and trans women being given a passport that says "woman". There are certain situations in the world where the truth matters, identification documents are one of them.

    • @scotswumin5502
      @scotswumin5502 2 місяці тому +7

      Oh lordy, there are so many things going through my mind and I could say.... or suggest. I agree that birth certificates should not be altered. Changing name by deed poll is possible of course. Perhaps people with dsds could eg once puberty kicks in or whenever it comes to light, apply if they wished, with eg dna testing, to change it.(I'm open to further points there). Regards driving licences and passports, with the holographic tech (passports) It could have, at each agency's data held on the person/all of us, the actual birth sex and name along with other info eg new/ name without revealing birth sex actually on the licence or passport.
      I can imagine meetings with gov depts and trans lobbyists discussing all the parameters to have their 'identity' markers hidden.
      There was a part of me that was supportive of people with 'gender dysphoria' but that has waned with all the issues impacting on female's rights now.

    • @biancawilloughby9980
      @biancawilloughby9980 2 місяці тому

      Suck it up princess lol

    • @marydaly-e7i
      @marydaly-e7i 2 місяці тому +4

      i cant see how this ruling is going to be overturned or see some new legislation being brough in to change it. the damage is already done i fear and women's safe space no longer exist in Australia as of now. i hope im wrong .

    • @ShoppingEmail-dr1fs
      @ShoppingEmail-dr1fs 2 місяці тому

      changing a birth certificate is ludicrous.

    • @Michelle-Davis
      @Michelle-Davis Місяць тому

      Truth is a subjective, ideological belief.

  • @janeandclementine
    @janeandclementine 2 місяці тому +54

    Helen Joyce for Queen of the world.

    • @Jannette-mw7fg
      @Jannette-mw7fg 2 місяці тому +5

      No, that is Kellie Jay Keen! But respect for Helen Joyce.

    • @michelledavis2604
      @michelledavis2604 2 місяці тому +3

      Helen is your cult leader

    • @michelledavis2604
      @michelledavis2604 2 місяці тому

      @richardshortall5987 are you saying neuroscience is a cult?
      I've not said anything in support of miss tickle.

    • @michelledavis2604
      @michelledavis2604 2 місяці тому +2

      @richardshortall5987 because gender identity has a basis in neuroscience.
      Helen is an economist and a feminist. Neither have anything to with trans issues.

    • @michelledavis2604
      @michelledavis2604 2 місяці тому

      @richardshortall5987
      No it doesn't isn't an argument.

  • @dcitennison5911
    @dcitennison5911 2 місяці тому +28

    It’s just great that you always have such informed and intelligent guests on your show. Dublin listener.

    • @biancawilloughby9980
      @biancawilloughby9980 2 місяці тому

      What the same two bigots Helen Joyce and Kelly Jay 🤣

    • @GrahamBorland-cz8cx
      @GrahamBorland-cz8cx Місяць тому

      ​​​​@@biancawilloughby9980 Running out of steam with anything approaching a cogent
      argument?
      Here are a few more suggestions for everyone to ignore if you're struggling:-
      Transphobe.. Weirdo ..Nazi....Pedo
      the list goes on.
      Happy to help 😊

    • @Michelle-Davis
      @Michelle-Davis Місяць тому

      Who, where?

    • @GrahamBorland-cz8cx
      @GrahamBorland-cz8cx Місяць тому

      ​@@Michelle-Davis Who, where what?

    • @Michelle-Davis
      @Michelle-Davis Місяць тому

      @@GrahamBorland-cz8cx who is the informed and intelligent guest?

  • @waynemcauliffe-fv5yf
    @waynemcauliffe-fv5yf 2 місяці тому +25

    Australia has dropped the ball here. My country is woke as now💩😈

    • @ChibbiYumi
      @ChibbiYumi 2 місяці тому +8

      Julia Gillard change the sex discrimination act to include trans women and that has a huge impact on the outcome of this court case.

    • @waynemcauliffe-fv5yf
      @waynemcauliffe-fv5yf 2 місяці тому

      @@ChibbiYumi Disgraceful

  • @Susan.D
    @Susan.D 2 місяці тому +20

    Up is down, down is up...absurd.

  • @wendydonnelly1881
    @wendydonnelly1881 2 місяці тому +14

    Those people have taken the HYPOCRITIC oath

  • @madelinebock6469
    @madelinebock6469 2 місяці тому +20

    I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person. Brava for wading into the shite for us normals.

  • @UteHeggenTranswidowHeals
    @UteHeggenTranswidowHeals 2 місяці тому +27

    More on behavior of "Roxy Tickle" types towards their families, ex-wives, children they fathered: Lime Soda Films yt chan, premier Friday, Aug 30 (7pm BST, 2pm EST) Behind the Looking Glass, a documentary on trans widows. Data on trans widows at channel in the handle name here. It's real, it's exactly as odious and disturbed as you might imagine.

  • @robws007
    @robws007 2 місяці тому +12

    Now the cat is out of the bag at the BMA; since the TRAs are so good at "taking names", maybe some intrepid journalist could tell us who organized the opposition to the Cass Report? That is the source of the rot...

  • @paulrout
    @paulrout 2 місяці тому +10

    These doctors have resigned because they’re embarrassed of what they’ve been doing

    • @tommycee3721
      @tommycee3721 2 місяці тому +6

      They have been given an out...and have taken it. Quite telling

    • @GrahamBorland-cz8cx
      @GrahamBorland-cz8cx Місяць тому +1

      @paulrout
      Not sure where you're coming from here.
      Large numbers of the BMA's membership resigned in protest at the actions of the constitutional committee, in taking a private vote to oppose the Cass review, without consulting their members.
      The committee are entrusted to conduct ballots on a clinical, not a political basis.

    • @lornocford6482
      @lornocford6482 17 днів тому

      They're not embarrassed. They're getting out before they're held accountable for what they've done to people including children.

  • @hospitalsgivingpatientsdan8894
    @hospitalsgivingpatientsdan8894 2 місяці тому +25

    Great lm identifying 30 years younger. And want the government to pay my transition

    • @carltaylor6452
      @carltaylor6452 2 місяці тому +3

      Identify as a pensioner a few days a week, as well, and claim SRP pro rata as a bit of extra income!

    • @hospitalsgivingpatientsdan8894
      @hospitalsgivingpatientsdan8894 2 місяці тому +1

      @@carltaylor6452 why not have two identities get double the pension

    • @michelledavis2604
      @michelledavis2604 Місяць тому

      @@hospitalsgivingpatientsdan8894 transition how?

    • @GrahamBorland-cz8cx
      @GrahamBorland-cz8cx Місяць тому +2

      ​@@michelledavis2604 By having a deeply held inner feeling that you are 30 years younger.
      Job done......simple!

    • @Michelle-Davis
      @Michelle-Davis Місяць тому

      ​@GrahamBorland-cz8cx what's the scientific basis for that?

  • @patriciao.4442
    @patriciao.4442 Місяць тому +2

    one thing it's important to mention is that the Australian WOMAN Sally Grover had to pay for her legal expenses (over half million dollar) and the "the other part" had the legal expenses paid by tax payers. This whole circus is absolutely unacceptable.

  • @ApacheMagic
    @ApacheMagic 2 місяці тому +7

    He should have been called Tess Tickle

  • @jasper7803
    @jasper7803 2 місяці тому +11

    What planet is TICKLE ON? Men are from Mars and women from Venus

    • @F.Free-hv3wv
      @F.Free-hv3wv 2 місяці тому

      Woman think with their head
      Men think with their penis.

    • @beatatz
      @beatatz 25 днів тому

      And anyone else is from Uranus.

  • @alanstewart6895
    @alanstewart6895 Місяць тому +4

    Dr. Jordan Peterson: ‘Ideologues know they are lying but eventually believe their own lies.’

    • @Michelle-Davis
      @Michelle-Davis Місяць тому

      That would be Helen joyce and her cohorts.

  • @plushiespoochesandgpigs1805
    @plushiespoochesandgpigs1805 2 місяці тому +2

    the tickle /giggle case is a terrible joke woke is broke

  • @MMaria77777
    @MMaria77777 Місяць тому

    Why? Roxy originally hoped for $200 000 in damages .....

  • @NickMan365
    @NickMan365 Місяць тому +2

    “Why did he bring the case?”
    Might he just be a grifter looking for a pay out and free legal representation, no win no fee type deal. My understanding is he hasn’t to put his own money in to pursue this case, unlike Sal Grover. It’s not even like he used the site before he got kicked off according to one interview I saw with Sal Grover who said “ he just wanted to swap recipie etc with women but he hadn’t been doing that before he was kicked off the site”
    Got grifter written all over it in my opinion, wouldn’t surprise me if after someone likes this, if they win a big pay out, they won’t be “gender confused” in 12 months time and would be a plain old man (just like they are now, even if they are wearing a dress). Biology doesn’t lie.

  • @paulrout
    @paulrout Місяць тому

    There’s big money in trains that’s what’s about the worry about that their own pocket

  • @carltaylor6452
    @carltaylor6452 2 місяці тому +9

    I wouldn't wish to contradict Helen Joyce - she's a hero - but my understanding of UK law is that it's only better than Oz law in this regard because UK law has the Gender Recognition Act. The fairly recently Haldane judgment - that For Women Scotland took to court - ruled that a man with a GRC is a woman for 'all purposes'. Presumably, this means that the few thousand men with a GRC in the UK *are* treated as women under the Equality Act, and that the single sex exemption would not apply to them. So, if Roxy Tickle had a UK GRC, and Giggle was a UK app, the law would apply exactly here as it does in Oz. The Oz law is based on self-ID, as I understand it, which means that a man doesn't even need a GRC to invade women's spaces. Sex Matters - of which Helen is a director - is still trying to get the Equality Act clarified so that sex means sex (and not gender identity). Until this happens, British men like Roxy, who want to spoil women-only spaces, are legally protected in doing so, so long as they have a GRC. Someone please tell me if I have this all wrong.

    • @davidhughes8795
      @davidhughes8795 2 місяці тому +12

      You've gone into a fair bit of detail laying this out, so I expect you probably know significantly more than me about the law on this in Australia versus the UK, so take whatever I say with a huge pinch of salt, but:
      Doesn't a lot of it come down to the individual judge and how they themselves interprit a specific case and the laws surrounding it, depending on the country? We've had a couple of court cases in the UK relating to gender identities (delusional men trying to impose their nonsensical identities on women), and in most of them the law has thankfully sided with the women. Essentially saying that they have every righ to be gender critical and that this is a protected belief.
      The thing that was so shocking to me was the Australian judge saying that 'sex is changable' or something a long those lines... What?!

    • @magpiegirl3783
      @magpiegirl3783 Місяць тому +5

      The Australian Sex Discrimination Act was amended in 2013 to include the term gender identity and remove the definitions of male and female. Sally Grover is arguing that this is wrong and will be part of the appeal process. The changes to this Act were made by our first female Prime Minister (famous for her mysoginy speech in parliament) and Australians were not informed of these changes nor voted or agreed to them.

    • @Michelle-Davis
      @Michelle-Davis Місяць тому

      Transwomen aren't men, they are women.

    • @GrahamBorland-cz8cx
      @GrahamBorland-cz8cx Місяць тому +1

      ​@@Michelle-Davis Trans identifying men think they're women.
      No problem with wishful thinking.

    • @lornocford6482
      @lornocford6482 17 днів тому

      The GRC still excluded males from female only spaces. If there was anything different in Scotland, it will be because the laws in Scotland can be different to those in England and Wales.

  • @janebennetto5655
    @janebennetto5655 Місяць тому +1

    I love Sex Matters and Helen but can’t listen to Julia talking for 99% of the interview! I understand Sex Matters has to be seen so no blame, no shame on your part. ❤🇬🇧❌❌

  • @Oceanfoxy
    @Oceanfoxy 2 місяці тому +5

    It cost her 1.2 million and counting

    • @scotswumin5502
      @scotswumin5502 2 місяці тому +1

      What cost who 1.2 million what?

    • @biancawilloughby9980
      @biancawilloughby9980 2 місяці тому

      Waste of time and money. The Australian High Court is not to be laughed at. I wonder how many will be sucked into fund the high court appeal. 🥴🤔

    • @Wendyj55
      @Wendyj55 2 місяці тому

      ​@@biancawilloughby9980Count me in for that !!

    • @GrahamBorland-cz8cx
      @GrahamBorland-cz8cx Місяць тому

      ​@@biancawilloughby9980 That's the issue the Australian High Court has made itself a laughing stock worldwide.

  • @Matti-iu2eb
    @Matti-iu2eb Місяць тому

    LGBTQ+makesmewanttopuke

  • @Michelle-Davis
    @Michelle-Davis Місяць тому +1

    Everyone watching this video should do some research and proper study of the subject.
    Otherwise it's an echo chamber and confirmation bias.
    Just because you agree with a social media influencer doesn't make it true. Go and find out ftom external credible independent sources. Then have an informed opinion, not a biased misinformed opinion.

    • @GrahamBorland-cz8cx
      @GrahamBorland-cz8cx Місяць тому +1

      Helen Joyce misinformed?
      If she's got the wrong end of the stick we're all in trouble!

    • @Michelle-Davis
      @Michelle-Davis Місяць тому

      @@GrahamBorland-cz8cx about some things, yes.

    • @lornocford6482
      @lornocford6482 17 днів тому

      You're just attention seeking, so there you go. You can thank me later.

    • @Michelle-Davis
      @Michelle-Davis 17 днів тому

      @@GrahamBorland-cz8cx she's your cult leadet

  • @michelledavis2604
    @michelledavis2604 2 місяці тому +1

    Triggered.

    • @lornocford6482
      @lornocford6482 17 днів тому

      Look up breathing exercises. It will help you when you're triggered.

  • @michelledavis2604
    @michelledavis2604 Місяць тому +1

    What's the point of making claims you can't back up, unless you're just causing trouble. Grow up ms Joyce.

    • @GrahamBorland-cz8cx
      @GrahamBorland-cz8cx Місяць тому +1

      False claims?

    • @Michelle-Davis
      @Michelle-Davis Місяць тому

      ​@GrahamBorland-cz8cx she's full of them.

    • @GrahamBorland-cz8cx
      @GrahamBorland-cz8cx Місяць тому +1

      ​@@Michelle-Davis E.G.

    • @Michelle-Davis
      @Michelle-Davis Місяць тому

      @GrahamBorland-cz8cx that genderbis binarycand you can't change sex etc. That transwomen are men not women. Thst transgender is an ideology.

    • @GrahamBorland-cz8cx
      @GrahamBorland-cz8cx Місяць тому +1

      ​@@Michelle-Davis Presumably you would understand that not everyone agrees with you.
      HJ is far from being a lone voice.
      "Transwomen are women " is just a claim.
      Nobody has yet been able to explain what they mean by that claim.
      What type of women?
      Are they women all the time or just in public?
      Do they stop being women when they require sex dependent medical care?
      What happens if some bloke tries to chat them up. Do they put him in the picture?
      You can see why the public are confused with so many perplexing questions.

  • @biancawilloughby9980
    @biancawilloughby9980 2 місяці тому

    Trans women are not cis men or cis women.

    • @oliverhug3
      @oliverhug3 2 місяці тому +2

      They are men.

    • @stephanieroth16
      @stephanieroth16 2 місяці тому +1

      It's just men and women. Don't put labels on people. Wearing a wig and makeup doesn't turn a man into a woman., just as wearing blackface doesn't make you a person of color.

    • @stephanieroth16
      @stephanieroth16 2 місяці тому +7

      No labels, please.

    • @helenablavatsky9136
      @helenablavatsky9136 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@stephanieroth16The word cis is absurd. It's just a way to make it seem women are a subset of woman in their own sex class.

    • @mariaf4396
      @mariaf4396 2 місяці тому +2

      i am NOT a cis woman, my husband is NOT a cis man. i refuse to be a subset in my own sex category. there is only MAN or WOMAN. pretenders are no longer welcome.

  • @elizabethteeling4297
    @elizabethteeling4297 2 місяці тому +1

    2 whinging people

    • @siobhannoble8545
      @siobhannoble8545 2 місяці тому +2

      1 ignorant child. 🖕

    • @akashajones6079
      @akashajones6079 2 місяці тому +3

      The more you ignore the horrendous affect gender ideology is having on people and society, the more people will turn against your cause.

    • @ktwashere5637
      @ktwashere5637 2 місяці тому +33

      who? You and yourself?

    • @robertmarshall2502
      @robertmarshall2502 2 місяці тому +20

      ​@@ktwashere5637 I think his wig is the brains of the outfit.

    • @jerrygregor
      @jerrygregor 2 місяці тому +17

      1 confused man.