*Update* PATCH TU15.1 Explained - It depends on how you levelled up with each level. If you donated 99% of a level and then killed npcs for the last percent, then you received 2 points instead of 1. That extra point is removed.
Hey hello I'm new to td2 do you know if they fix this issue all I could find was the cap is pose to be 23 if you could help me find out that would be dope
Step 1. Get 2k SHD. Make a new character and boost to 30. Complete new York. 2 Have 1200 SHD materials use em to max vague weapons/ exotics and things you don't use.
We do have a cap as per the devs it has been in all the pts patch notes and in the TU15 patch notes. It says 20. The problem is your expertise level is raised by items rank not strictly the number of items proficient. How they got to this level (21+) was by upgrading everything to rank 9 with printer filament and then making a donate all donation once for all items and since everything is rank 9 it all becomes proficient at once giving a large amount of expertise levels pushing you past the soft cap. Since there is no hard cap, because new items will most likely enter the pool at some point, it takes all the proficiency experience and dumps it into your expertise. Giving you 10+ levels instantly, now the system is obviously broken over all because not everyone ends up with the same expertise level even if two people both start from 0. So the best thing to do is not max out anything all at once and slowly progress to rank nine on as many pieces as possible. Wether by donating or farming it makes no difference. Though if you did tombs you may be fucked. As an unintended consequence maybe that your max will be lower compared to someone else’s, as you stated. I have only use one GS and two brand sets two weapons and 2 skills I have been donating and have not made anything but my one build proficient and I am lvl 4 right now that shouldn’t be the case I should be half way around level 3. I have friends that have saved all of there donations and sold items for credit to buy mods and brake them down. They are at the expected level 3 1/2. I expect to be at the max next weekend as I don’t play often. But if the theory is correct I will be 21+. Unless there is some underlying bug that is not being shared. Though if you have a discord you know things like that usually spread like wild fire. GGs great explanation overall. Vibes did mention the rank exp issue as well. I’ve just looked into it as many hardcore players would. Hopefully though they can fix this and everything I said becomes invalid.
I did tombs for all brand and gear sets. I’m now doing countdown for weapons just finished smg’s and some AR, I also have six skills maxed out. I have most of the names gear as well. I am level 16 and I have a lot to grind for but I’ve been donating all weapons and did tombs for gear. I should be over 20 when I get done. So it’s broken for sure but I did the numbers and based on the items to be leveled up and the amount of levels it’s takes to get one expertise level it’s sums up less than 20??? I’m sure they are gonna fix it and have a cap later on a patch. Who ever is way over the cap will be brought down to the cap.
We did the tombs for an hour and I got max proficient in so many things. You don’t have to keep killing yourself. Just get to the wave right before keener jumps down. Kill all adds, but leave keener alive in the towers. Place yourself between bravo and Charlie and someone else between delta echo…..and you can jam pulse all towers. Keener will disappear and reappear over and over and over.
@@DivisionAddiction yea he means theo lol. it does look like you capped yourself for sure with donating, i know people with almost the same level expertise and have damn near 1/2 as much stuff proficient. your level 12 would be level 18 for them
Really? Gonna have to try this, cause levelling up weapons at Tombs is excruciatingly slow. Gear is ok cause you can put six same brands on at a time. I'm still confused on why different people have different Expertise level for same Proficiency level. Does 'Kill XP' bypass the cap?
@@deliman7203 the devs intention is for players to actually play and put time in, the donating .. specifically with players with really high shd level.. they can just purchase credits and donate away with weapons from vendors x 20, but the power creep is significantly better for those who actually play through and gain xp with gear and weapons. some folks can have the same amount of items proficient but some are literally 4-9 expertise higher because they actually played with the gear/weapons equipped. when folks start hitting max 344/344 tons of people gonna be looking stupid when they are level 20 something expertise while others are literally pushing 35-40
@@coolbydefault So are you saying you can gain Expertise points from open world XP? I know you gain Proficiency points from open world XP, but once that item(s) becomes proficient, which equates to 10 Expertise points, you, in theory, stop gaining Proficiency points for that item. So still confused?
I don’t think donating is a bad idea, the only catch is to keep changing the loot and donating, the sweet spot is to be proficient only till Rank 6/7, and not to be fully proficient. I am expertise level 10 and I am proficient only in 43/344.
Im finding the quickest way to farm materials like steel etc is having the global setting on heroic and constantly doing open world tasks, control points aswell as joining other peoples missions via matchmaking..this is half the battle. My SHD is 780 taken me 4 months
It won’t cause you’re not donating, you’re just levelling. Donating system is bugged rn, that’s why I made this video. They are fixing it on the 31st 🤞🏾
One thing no one seems to say is how hard i find myself to collect all the materials to upgrade your weapons, gear sets, brand sets etc once proficent. It takes 1000s and 1000s of everything, steel, fabrics, titanium etc to upgrade each level.
It seems when you level up items the normal way an not donate you get 1 prof level for regular items per level 2 prof level for named items per level and 3 prof levels for exotic items per level. Donating is 1 level no matter the item.
Making a gun proficient increases your expertise. It doesn't matter if it's through donations or gameplay. And you're going to hit the cap no matter how you do it.
as far as i know, the expertise is bug due to the expertise is increase based on the amount of proficiency item if you increase by donating, it increase by one(normal supposed way) if you increase by using and killing(including this exploits) it increase by 2 so assume that when they fixed this proficiency problem, your expertise will reduce by about half if what you do is just doing tomb. Currently the fastest way I think doing legit is just doing countdown and donate. those that already max proficiency, deconstruct it to get resources to donate Please keep in mind that your mod resources increase extremely fast with limited pool you can carry so it max out fast as you CANNOT donate it and just deconstruct. To help with resource donate when you done all basic weapon and gear proficiency, some named gear especially DZ exclusive gear that wont be drop by hunter are extremely hard to farm and exotics and most people just donate resource to level up proficiency. what you can do is to target loot gear set in countdown. deconstruct gear set give back more blue resources to help with donate. if you do countdown with your fiend, especially towards hunting hunter for named gear, try to communicate with your countdown player. if you have named gear that already max, try to give it to other player so they may give you named item that you have not max out yet.
@@DivisionAddiction so that Tuxedo youtuber was just live streaming he is Expertise Level 7 same as me, but with only 22 items Proficient - 22 fewer but same level.
So spoke to a few Clan members who said these types of exploits were considered banned offences a few years back. One guy had his progress rolled back. Did Ubisoft adjust their TOS or should we be cautious.
is my expertise table broken or glitched cause when i click on donate junk the button just circles like its working but nothing happens and the crap i marked as junk just stays in my inventory....am i doing something wrong?...is there another way to level up expertise other than donating?....dont tell me grinding cause i been grinding for months and im stuck at level 1 expertise.....help please lol
My dad figured out that each prof level on an item gained through donations will give you 1 point towards expertise level, but for each level gained without donations will give you 2 points towards the next expertise level. If you only level through donations you may end up short of the max expertise level.
I am grinding (combating) to level up my proficiency rank on the weapons/gears in my loadout but I also donate junks that I picked up along the way. I am at expertise level 6 with 30 items being proficient. Please tell me I am still ok, i.e. not fucked. I'll be in this game for eternity since some weapons are not optimal. I really don't want to waste resources to optimize these weapons much because I most likely won't ever use them again once I am done with this expertise thingy.
One thing I'm confused on is how the bonus armour from the expertise works. Does the percentage go towards the base 80k from the brand set or does it go towards the 170k in the main attribute?
@@loon0783 Yeah if they reduce the costs or make like proficiency where using the item will level it then that's like the only way it's really worth it. For the time being their no reason to take armor above level 10 as you'll start needing exotic components beyond that.
@@Shishomuru ya I wasn't going to. I'm expertise 14 right now. I'm gonna make everything proficient but only upgrade my armour to 10 and max my main weapons. Not gonna do anything else unless it changes
This Whole expertise shit is bullshit being forced to use gear sets and weapons I don't use and probably never will after it being proficient. I'd rather had more missions etc etc.
No, your not really force to used other gear. You can just be running around collecting random gear and donating it to what you don't use. A thing I do I collect all of the purple gear that I find and I deconstruct to get a good amount of materials and max out the resources and then use it to upgrade the level up on the expertise on the the gear/weapon you want. That method turns into a cycle but it really works on working on your expertise level faster.
I think the maxed for expertise lvl is 30... my commander is currently expertise lvl 28. And the only things he needed to be proficient are his skills.
@@DivisionAddiction yup! But you're not wrong on the "donate all junk" as they have said they would fix it. Hopefully mine never had trouble because I have been doing it for days hahah
Damn. Only have one more gear set to max to proficient in that category. All Brand sets are already maxed out. If the max cap swing is that wild then the devs messed up. Thats not the fault of the community.
Are you saying to just repeat the Tombs from beginning to the boss part and lull ourselves after the first pulse jam? Jumping the wall over and over is going to take years but just repeating a 60 second cycle.
In the SMG section of the expertise bench towards the bottom there's a UMP45. Not UMP-45 or any variant, just UMP45, white text, nothing special. I've run dozens of countdowns, some with SMG targeted, and have been donating everything. I'm at 0 proficiency on the UMP45. Does this gun exist?
Am a expertise 22-n my skill build is st expertise 15+-my armor is stuck at 1- million i don't kno why,,but it's askin for 3 exotic components,,witch is hard to farm, so am stuck,,
If you grind countdown you can get points for exotic caches so you can just deconstruct the exotic weapons. That’s what I been doing but yeah I guess at your level it asks for a lot of components.
@@DivisionAddiction ,much appreciated your input,,but i hav been doin so but it's a struggle,,it's askin for 4-5 exotic components now,,at expertise 13 for sills,to move up we need a exotic components craftin table,,,
Yup keep doing it man. I’ve been doing it, the tombs and now weapons on countdown. After I’m done with like three runs I donate everything and I’ve been leveling up bro. I should be past 20 way past I have a lot of named gear, exotics and weapons plus skills and I am about to be 16 lol
@@DivisionAddiction I subscribed bro good job of finding that problem because I had been donating.. never knew that problem even existed.. I started using printer filaments to upgrade gear because I would have a ton of gear marked as junk for donation but when I did so it wasn't adding up.. 50 peices oh gear donate them all and the count go up by like 10.. I had a feeling something was wrong..
lol this game is a very big problem!!! all this shite to do just 2 level up now just 2 keep u playing an old old dead game!!! Div3 we need asap but looks like at least 2025 lol!!
@@DivisionAddiction I haven't seen anything confirming they're fixing it. All I seen is they're fixing the donate all feature and I don't think that's causing it. It seems to me people are getting more XP than others
@@kingslayerz1874 It has been addressed on twitter to the devs and they are very aware of this bug. They are currently looking into, i got the confirmation from 2 devs. If its not fixed on the 31st of may then I will follow it up again!
@@DivisionAddiction that's all I seen aswell, I hope it's fixed by the 31st but I fear it's a larger issue they'll have to figure out how to address it fairly
@@DivisionAddiction Did it this morning and it literally was not giving any XP with me pulsing Theo. I'm SHD 13,390. Why level Expertise to keep playing the same content over and over. It just seems like a desperate attempt to keep people roped in on the same grind, just a different perspective. Same end result...same aged content.
Okay so when you reach max proficiency on a weapon… lets say an exotic. You level up the weapon but then find a better version of it later. Do you keep that level up on all drops of that specific exotic? Or do you need to relevel…
If the devs actually treated their player base with respect, I might give a shit, seeing as they dont and fail at making the game good or worth playing, I just cant be bothered. Division 1 is still GOAT.
This video is OLD news .. Ubisoft is changing how the expertise level has been working so far and roll-back will take place for all/most players (expertise level and their proficiency level for all their gear) .. my advice, stop doing anything until at least tomorrow 31-May EoD.
On my ps5 why I can’t hold the donation button at one I have to do it one at the time. How can I put so I could hold the button on my ps5 so I don’t have to it one by one? Any body know thank you.
most effective way to see it working is have at least 50 or so items to donate as junk, once done, u back out of expertise screen and can see briefly its all done!
Crazyyy man, loads of bugs I’ve seen in this game it’s mad but hey I’m still here man, ain’t found no 3rd shooter that I like better then this, it always beats it🙏🏾
Remember guys like I said the complaining is only on the pvp world who’s stronger than me. They cheating , nerf it , just play your game and stop crying, you tubers love the new streams you giving them . No issues in pve world just the cry babies in pvp
Things like this is why division gets boring real fast they made the game a certain way so it take long to level up people would actually learn how to play the game people find a way to cheat to level up fast never learned how to play the game and got bored they make a whole new level up with expertise with your gear and every gun because they know everyone does not use every gun or every gear set so everyone wasted their money on this game there are so many combos in gear sets it would take one person years to actually use it all then beg 3 weeks after all the new contents out and say make more
I'm not mad that people find a way to level up I'm mad I understand why they made the expertise system it was the force everybody to use all the guns and gear and see how great the game really is because everybody makes the strongest builds so many other creative build behind
I have a friend that got to level 23 in 1 week!!!! I’m not surprised by this because he’s one of the best xp players I’ve ever met. Top in this game for sure. But how do you get to level 23 (in my friends case) all proficient but expertise level 23? 20 was supposed to be the max? So to break away and gain more you have to USE the gear and skills in PVE to level up VS playing the new countdown mode and being a part of the “Herd” and DONATING ALL FKING DAY. That’s F**ked up! I got GOT! All this time really? They need to fix this mess and get it right. I’m F**king PISSED. I don’t do the TOMBS and do things that are against terms of service for MASSIVE or UBISOFT. This is the system they introduced to us and it’s not right. We are playing the Countdown because of this new system? And now that’s not what we should do? WOW please send MY message to the developers. I’m not trying to be negative but really? Thank you for the information and God Bless my friend.
I hear you bro! Hopefully they fix this asap so we can have some clarity. Also the tombs is not against their service, they have confirmed that already 🙏🏾
i have a question. I am doing trying this but however the proficiency only increase for my 2nd weapon. Not the rest of everything like armor, skills and handguns. Why is this? or am i doing it wrong?
Since the update they have changed a few things. As of now, you SHOULD donate, the tombs thing is patched so that won’t work. Run countdown, if you are trying to get gear proficient, put on 6 pieces in countdown, target the same loot that you are wearing, after 2 runs of countdown mark all what you got as junk and donate it. Within 2 runs it will be proficient. For the weapons farm for different guns each countdown run and donate them after, that’s how you can level up everything quicker.
Yeah I’m always late to the party🤣 but some people in this comment section had no clue so I’m glad I can help others. Patch notes was released yesterday, 31st of May is the day of the patch,hopefully it gets fixed
*Update* PATCH TU15.1 Explained - It depends on how you levelled up with each level. If you donated 99% of a level and then killed npcs for the last percent, then you received 2 points instead of 1. That extra point is removed.
OMG! This is giving me huge anxiety. I don't understand all this!!!!!
Hey hello I'm new to td2 do you know if they fix this issue all I could find was the cap is pose to be 23 if you could help me find out that would be dope
It has been fixed and the cap is 23@@Y-Luv42blackryno
Ive seen 25s as of yesterday
Step 1. Get 2k SHD. Make a new character and boost to 30. Complete new York. 2 Have 1200 SHD materials use em to max vague weapons/ exotics and things you don't use.
That way take to You 3 year to 15 to 25.
We do have a cap as per the devs it has been in all the pts patch notes and in the TU15 patch notes. It says 20. The problem is your expertise level is raised by items rank not strictly the number of items proficient. How they got to this level (21+) was by upgrading everything to rank 9 with printer filament and then making a donate all donation once for all items and since everything is rank 9 it all becomes proficient at once giving a large amount of expertise levels pushing you past the soft cap. Since there is no hard cap, because new items will most likely enter the pool at some point, it takes all the proficiency experience and dumps it into your expertise. Giving you 10+ levels instantly, now the system is obviously broken over all because not everyone ends up with the same expertise level even if two people both start from 0. So the best thing to do is not max out anything all at once and slowly progress to rank nine on as many pieces as possible. Wether by donating or farming it makes no difference. Though if you did tombs you may be fucked. As an unintended consequence maybe that your max will be lower compared to someone else’s, as you stated. I have only use one GS and two brand sets two weapons and 2 skills I have been donating and have not made anything but my one build proficient and I am lvl 4 right now that shouldn’t be the case I should be half way around level 3. I have friends that have saved all of there donations and sold items for credit to buy mods and brake them down. They are at the expected level 3 1/2. I expect to be at the max next weekend as I don’t play often. But if the theory is correct I will be 21+. Unless there is some underlying bug that is not being shared. Though if you have a discord you know things like that usually spread like wild fire. GGs great explanation overall. Vibes did mention the rank exp issue as well. I’ve just looked into it as many hardcore players would. Hopefully though they can fix this and everything I said becomes invalid.
I did tombs for all brand and gear sets. I’m now doing countdown for weapons just finished smg’s and some AR, I also have six skills maxed out. I have most of the names gear as well. I am level 16 and I have a lot to grind for but I’ve been donating all weapons and did tombs for gear. I should be over 20 when I get done. So it’s broken for sure but I did the numbers and based on the items to be leveled up and the amount of levels it’s takes to get one expertise level it’s sums up less than 20??? I’m sure they are gonna fix it and have a cap later on a patch. Who ever is way over the cap will be brought down to the cap.
You can also level up any item by spending/donating components, even on items you don't posses.
Good one
We did the tombs for an hour and I got max proficient in so many things. You don’t have to keep killing yourself. Just get to the wave right before keener jumps down. Kill all adds, but leave keener alive in the towers. Place yourself between bravo and Charlie and someone else between delta echo…..and you can jam pulse all towers. Keener will disappear and reappear over and over and over.
You mean Theo right? You confused me for a second haha. Okay cool sounds good tho I’ll try that
@@DivisionAddiction yea he means theo lol. it does look like you capped yourself for sure with donating, i know people with almost the same level expertise and have damn near 1/2 as much stuff proficient. your level 12 would be level 18 for them
Really? Gonna have to try this, cause levelling up weapons at Tombs is excruciatingly slow. Gear is ok cause you can put six same brands on at a time.
I'm still confused on why different people have different Expertise level for same Proficiency level. Does 'Kill XP' bypass the cap?
@@deliman7203 the devs intention is for players to actually play and put time in, the donating .. specifically with players with really high shd level.. they can just purchase credits and donate away with weapons from vendors x 20, but the power creep is significantly better for those who actually play through and gain xp with gear and weapons. some folks can have the same amount of items proficient but some are literally 4-9 expertise higher because they actually played with the gear/weapons equipped. when folks start hitting max 344/344 tons of people gonna be looking stupid when they are level 20 something expertise while others are literally pushing 35-40
@@coolbydefault So are you saying you can gain Expertise points from open world XP? I know you gain Proficiency points from open world XP, but once that item(s) becomes proficient, which equates to 10 Expertise points, you, in theory, stop gaining Proficiency points for that item. So still confused?
I don’t think donating is a bad idea, the only catch is to keep changing the loot and donating, the sweet spot is to be proficient only till Rank 6/7, and not to be fully proficient. I am expertise level 10 and I am proficient only in 43/344.
You mabe me a new sub thank you for the info Division Addiction.
Thank you man! Welcome to the channel, appreciate you🤞🏾
Im finding the quickest way to farm materials like steel etc is having the global setting on heroic and constantly doing open world tasks, control points aswell as joining other peoples missions via matchmaking..this is half the battle. My SHD is 780 taken me 4 months
It kinda makes sense everyone expertise level will be different depending on if you're using the weapons/gear or you're just donating towards it
Exactly bro, we will find out on 31st of May 💪🏾
The tombs and doing countdown for kills only will do the same thing
It won’t cause you’re not donating, you’re just levelling. Donating system is bugged rn, that’s why I made this video. They are fixing it on the 31st 🤞🏾
Well I can say that I ran across a player at level 17 n I was only 4 n I kept smacking him down but I will pass this information on to my clan mates
Yeah ahhaha players are still gonna get cooked with max expertise. People can have more damage but not good movement
One thing no one seems to say is how hard i find myself to collect all the materials to upgrade your weapons, gear sets, brand sets etc once proficent. It takes 1000s and 1000s of everything, steel, fabrics, titanium etc to upgrade each level.
I'm an older gamer an something told me not to get too into the expertise system just yet, nobody could give us a clear number on the level cap.
Big grind or sure bro, hella time consuming so I feel ya
its a fucking grinding game ... u going to waste your life on some shitting stuffs ... but countdown is fun ... tho
You jus simplified everything I been doing wrong
All good💪🏾
@@DivisionAddiction but since I did this my proficiency level has gone up dramatically
It seems when you level up items the normal way an not donate you get 1 prof level for regular items per level 2 prof level for named items per level and 3 prof levels for exotic items per level. Donating is 1 level no matter the item.
Making a gun proficient increases your expertise. It doesn't matter if it's through donations or gameplay. And you're going to hit the cap no matter how you do it.
At first I was donating for pieces that I will never use but now I guess it'll be for pieces I use..and then level up.
Fix is on the 31st of May, hopefully it’s all settled 🙏🏾
You only have to play WoN campaign 15 times with a SHD of 3950 and will be 25 expertise. Took me 30 hours, 3 hours each campaign.
Yoo DA channel level up this guy was one of my channel for Division 2 videos .
Ayyy!! That’s love my bro fr, that means a lot👊🏾
I have 20 expertise 344/344 donated im at disadvantaged ATM hoping they fix it quick!
Yeah they said it’s going to be fixed on the 31st! Fingers crossed 🤞🏾
Did they fix it
Thank You!
Has anyone caped everything out just playing the game? And if so what was the cap?
I think the cap is 20 but people are getting 27, 24 and all different numbers so this bug should be fixed on the 31st of May
@@DivisionAddiction Ok thanks for the video and the info.
as far as i know, the expertise is bug due to the expertise is increase based on the amount of proficiency item
if you increase by donating, it increase by one(normal supposed way)
if you increase by using and killing(including this exploits) it increase by 2
so assume that when they fixed this proficiency problem, your expertise will reduce by about half if what you do is just doing tomb.
Currently the fastest way I think doing legit is just doing countdown and donate. those that already max proficiency, deconstruct it to get resources to donate
Please keep in mind that your mod resources increase extremely fast with limited pool you can carry so it max out fast as you CANNOT donate it and just deconstruct.
To help with resource donate when you done all basic weapon and gear proficiency, some named gear especially DZ exclusive gear that wont be drop by hunter are extremely hard to farm and exotics and most people just donate resource to level up proficiency. what you can do is to target loot gear set in countdown. deconstruct gear set give back more blue resources to help with donate.
if you do countdown with your fiend, especially towards hunting hunter for named gear, try to communicate with your countdown player. if you have named gear that already max, try to give it to other player so they may give you named item that you have not max out yet.
We need this out there 100%
I was doing this last night & almost fell asleep 😴 😩🤦🏻♂️
see i'm just confused about the math, i'm expertise level 7 with 44 items proficient my math says at level 14 i'd have 88 and level 21 132 items?
100% my guyy!💪🏾
@@DivisionAddiction so that Tuxedo youtuber was just live streaming he is Expertise Level 7 same as me, but with only 22 items Proficient - 22 fewer but same level.
Still confused because each item has 10levels until proficient so im not understanding where the " extra " levels are coming from
That’s what I’m saying, everyone has 344 items so it should all be at a even level
thanks !
That’s all good bro!
So spoke to a few Clan members who said these types of exploits were considered banned offences a few years back. One guy had his progress rolled back. Did Ubisoft adjust their TOS or should we be cautious.
From what I know you currently cannot get banned for the tombs
@@DivisionAddiction Great thks.
I realised this yesterday.....ggs
Yeah it’s crazy, I’ve been donating a lot of things too
is my expertise table broken or glitched cause when i click on donate junk the button just circles like its working but nothing happens and the crap i marked as junk just stays in my inventory....am i doing something wrong?...is there another way to level up expertise other than donating?....dont tell me grinding cause i been grinding for months and im stuck at level 1 expertise.....help please lol
Gotta donate individually. I have the same problem. ps5
My dad figured out that each prof level on an item gained through donations will give you 1 point towards expertise level, but for each level gained without donations will give you 2 points towards the next expertise level. If you only level through donations you may end up short of the max expertise level.
I hear that!
Basically the only explanation that made sense and quick ty
Wasn't today's patch (24 May 2022) supposed to be addressing this issue? Or is it next week's patch? Whatever it is, I sure hope it gets fixed soon
The 31st and I believe all that will be fixed
Yeah 31st is the patch where this should be fixed
gooo back donating
Hey man can you post the build you are wearing in this video like to see what talents you are running on this build
I already posted it bro! It’s my spotter shotgun build, up on the channel💯
I am grinding (combating) to level up my proficiency rank on the weapons/gears in my loadout but I also donate junks that I picked up along the way. I am at expertise level 6 with 30 items being proficient. Please tell me I am still ok, i.e. not fucked. I'll be in this game for eternity since some weapons are not optimal. I really don't want to waste resources to optimize these weapons much because I most likely won't ever use them again once I am done with this expertise thingy.
I think you should be fine once they fix all of this 🙏🏾 I’m in the same position as all I’ve been doing is donating
@@DivisionAddiction Thank you for responding. You are the best.
@@richhunt2190 that’s all good man! Thank you for commenting and watching my video
thx agent.
One thing I'm confused on is how the bonus armour from the expertise works. Does the percentage go towards the base 80k from the brand set or does it go towards the 170k in the main attribute?
It's based off the base armor for each piece not including primary attributes.
6 pieces of armor at Expertise 20 will only yield about 150K armor.
@@Shishomuru ok thanks
@@Shishomuru almost not worth it to do armour, just weapon damage
@@loon0783 Yeah if they reduce the costs or make like proficiency where using the item will level it then that's like the only way it's really worth it.
For the time being their no reason to take armor above level 10 as you'll start needing exotic components beyond that.
@@Shishomuru ya I wasn't going to. I'm expertise 14 right now. I'm gonna make everything proficient but only upgrade my armour to 10 and max my main weapons. Not gonna do anything else unless it changes
is this fixed now nice information i no it's an old vid 👌
Why I feel like people should not rush feel like people Glitch the game by doin this
We all wanna race hahahah!
🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thanks my guy, appreciate you every time 🤞🏾
This Whole expertise shit is bullshit being forced to use gear sets and weapons I don't use and probably never will after it being proficient. I'd rather had more missions etc etc.
I feel you, but I’m here for whatever they offer!
@@DivisionAddiction same bro Day 1 player of D1 & D2 🎯
@@SkonyD_46 likewise bro
No, your not really force to used other gear. You can just be running around collecting random gear and donating it to what you don't use. A thing I do I collect all of the purple gear that I find and I deconstruct to get a good amount of materials and max out the resources and then use it to upgrade the level up on the expertise on the the gear/weapon you want. That method turns into a cycle but it really works on working on your expertise level faster.
I think the maxed for expertise lvl is 30... my commander is currently expertise lvl 28. And the only things he needed to be proficient are his skills.
That’s crazy, yeah it seems like that’s the cap. Not sure tho we will find out on the 31st of May!
@@DivisionAddiction yup! But you're not wrong on the "donate all junk" as they have said they would fix it. Hopefully mine never had trouble because I have been doing it for days hahah
Damn. Only have one more gear set to max to proficient in that category. All Brand sets are already maxed out. If the max cap swing is that wild then the devs messed up. Thats not the fault of the community.
Are you saying to just repeat the Tombs from beginning to the boss part and lull ourselves after the first pulse jam? Jumping the wall over and over is going to take years but just repeating a 60 second cycle.
In the SMG section of the expertise bench towards the bottom there's a UMP45. Not UMP-45 or any variant, just UMP45, white text, nothing special. I've run dozens of countdowns, some with SMG targeted, and have been donating everything. I'm at 0 proficiency on the UMP45. Does this gun exist?
I think it doesn't drop after level 30 or 40, the only way to level it only you hit the level cap is to donate materials.
Am a expertise 22-n my skill build is st expertise 15+-my armor is stuck at 1- million i don't kno why,,but it's askin for 3 exotic components,,witch is hard to farm, so am stuck,,
If you grind countdown you can get points for exotic caches so you can just deconstruct the exotic weapons. That’s what I been doing but yeah I guess at your level it asks for a lot of components.
@@DivisionAddiction ,much appreciated your input,,but i hav been doin so but it's a struggle,,it's askin for 4-5 exotic components now,,at expertise 13 for sills,to move up we need a exotic components craftin table,,,
I hit level 10 today. I've been doing a lot of by donating so I guess I'm screwed.
I’ve been doing the same bro so trust me you not the only one🤦🏾♂️
You're all not bro this just that every youtubers want to this but it will get fix with the update so keep donating
Yup keep doing it man. I’ve been doing it, the tombs and now weapons on countdown. After I’m done with like three runs I donate everything and I’ve been leveling up bro. I should be past 20 way past I have a lot of named gear, exotics and weapons plus skills and I am about to be 16 lol
If you played the pts then you know you will not see any difference in you power over 20. So it dont matter.
I was capped at 20 in the pts so I have no clue hahaah
20% additional weapon damage is worth grinding tho
This farming method no longer works. Just farmed for over an hour today and not 1% of expertise 😣
I kept telling my clan mates to stop donating. this is so annoying lol
Yeahhhh hopefully they fix it!
Always some type of goofy ass bug in this game
Ahahahha crazyyyy
@@DivisionAddiction I subscribed bro good job of finding that problem because I had been donating.. never knew that problem even existed.. I started using printer filaments to upgrade gear because I would have a ton of gear marked as junk for donation but when I did so it wasn't adding up.. 50 peices oh gear donate them all and the count go up by like 10.. I had a feeling something was wrong..
How did that target to look like that? When you threw the grenade to kill yourself, it had lines in the circle??
It’s my settings, I think I’ve got it on a colour blind mode which changes the colour of things
Why not both?
lol this game is a very big problem!!! all this shite to do just 2 level up now just 2 keep u playing an old old dead game!!! Div3 we need asap but looks like at least 2025 lol!!
2026 for div 3 hahahah! Man Imma be here forever!!
Lol. This aged well!
It sure didn’t 🤣🤣 updated my pinned comment and community wall too
Ever since I watch this video I stop donating now I’m doing it right Thanks
Didn't even know u can donate 😂💯
🤣🤣well at least you know now haha!
does the Heartbreaker gear or new weapons still cause Delta's an issues for players?
No not anymore 👊🏾
@@DivisionAddiction ok sweet thank you so much for the great content an for your time to respond
Yup I'm at 148/344 and just got to 12 😭
Yeah, fix is on 31st so hopefully we get some clarity
@@DivisionAddiction I don't see how they could fix it without editing each players account.
@@DivisionAddiction I haven't seen anything confirming they're fixing it. All I seen is they're fixing the donate all feature and I don't think that's causing it. It seems to me people are getting more XP than others
@@kingslayerz1874 It has been addressed on twitter to the devs and they are very aware of this bug. They are currently looking into, i got the confirmation from 2 devs. If its not fixed on the 31st of may then I will follow it up again!
@@DivisionAddiction that's all I seen aswell, I hope it's fixed by the 31st but I fear it's a larger issue they'll have to figure out how to address it fairly
I tried the tombs way today and after doing it 5 times it stopped giving xp
Never had that happen to me lol that’s weird
@@DivisionAddiction Did it this morning and it literally was not giving any XP with me pulsing Theo. I'm SHD 13,390. Why level Expertise to keep playing the same content over and over. It just seems like a desperate attempt to keep people roped in on the same grind, just a different perspective. Same end result...same aged content.
Do you have to expertise everything? Or just the stuff you use?
Okay so when you reach max proficiency on a weapon… lets say an exotic. You level up the weapon but then find a better version of it later. Do you keep that level up on all drops of that specific exotic? Or do you need to relevel…
If the devs actually treated their player base with respect, I might give a shit, seeing as they dont and fail at making the game good or worth playing, I just cant be bothered. Division 1 is still GOAT.
This video is OLD news .. Ubisoft is changing how the expertise level has been working so far and roll-back will take place for all/most players (expertise level and their proficiency level for all their gear) .. my advice, stop doing anything until at least tomorrow 31-May EoD.
Just updated my pinned comment, also put it on my community wall couple hours ago too🙏🏾
@@DivisionAddiction Thanks mate!
Brand sets u just donate all of them?
damn u most have alot of free time in u life.. and how long will that take if u lvl up u guns while shooting and killing haha gg man
The tombs will boost that up in a hour or so fr but yeah crazy grind for sure hahahahha
Any update in this? Is it fixed?
31st of May hopefully🤞🏾 will do a updated video once the patch drops
How do i get my expertise level 4 St Elmos up higher? I've been using the heck out of it and its not allowing me to go any higher than lvl 4
if you donate any junk your screwed
As of now yuppp basically
Keep donating they're rolling back kill xp!
Yup! Just updating everyone, put it on my community page couple hours ago
being the devs cannot figure out a game they took two years on. do i get all my donations back. seems fair.
On my ps5 why I can’t hold the donation button at one I have to do it one at the time. How can I put so I could hold the button on my ps5 so I don’t have to it one by one? Any body know thank you.
most effective way to see it working is have at least 50 or so items to donate as junk, once done, u back out of expertise screen and can see briefly its all done!
the cap from donating things means this game is really broken...
Crazyyy man, loads of bugs I’ve seen in this game it’s mad but hey I’m still here man, ain’t found no 3rd shooter that I like better then this, it always beats it🙏🏾
Has this been fixed? Is donating still not efficient?
How did you get that mask?
Season level 100 my guy!
@@DivisionAddiction Ah thank you.
Change your title to stop donating your time to this game
LOL 😅😅😅😅 Good one 😅
Honestly, I don’t see why we care about this in a few months. They’re going to change this shit again and we know it.😢
How do I donate gear?
I don’t know if you should stop donating. I feel like they’ll fix it and everyone would end up at the same expertise level once they fix it so idk.
Hopefully bro hopefully🤞🏾31st is the fix date
@@DivisionAddiction I told you 😂
Why just why lol thanks for letting me know this bro
That’s all good man, thanks to my boy vibes!💯
Remember guys like I said the complaining is only on the pvp world who’s stronger than me. They cheating , nerf it , just play your game and stop crying, you tubers love the new streams you giving them . No issues in pve world just the cry babies in pvp
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Things like this is why division gets boring real fast they made the game a certain way so it take long to level up people would actually learn how to play the game people find a way to cheat to level up fast never learned how to play the game and got bored they make a whole new level up with expertise with your gear and every gun because they know everyone does not use every gun or every gear set so everyone wasted their money on this game there are so many combos in gear sets it would take one person years to actually use it all then beg 3 weeks after all the new contents out and say make more
I get you man, it’s hard especially when it’s very repetitive man for sure, but I guess this is the way they wanted to game in the first place
I'm not mad that people find a way to level up I'm mad I understand why they made the expertise system it was the force everybody to use all the guns and gear and see how great the game really is because everybody makes the strongest builds so many other creative build behind
Perfect example I made a Allred build but can you go up to fiveskill tears have you ever heard of a build like that
f the dz and im just chilling enjoying the game tbh
I feel you bro!👊🏾
I don't think the expertise system has any affect in pvp
Lies you tell!
It does for sure 💯
@@DivisionAddiction 👍
Hi bro, could you do a review with negotiaters set up and king breaker. thanks from malaysia 🇲🇾
I haven’t thought of it but I mean I wouldn’t mind giving it a go for PVE
Just grind the game....dont use exploits...be a real Agent.
But it's in the game. Players are not exploiting a design flaw
Exactly, they even said it’s not a problem to do
@@DivisionAddiction I was really just being a smarta$$...haha
I have a friend that got to level 23 in 1 week!!!! I’m not surprised by this because he’s one of the best xp players I’ve ever met. Top in this game for sure. But how do you get to level 23 (in my friends case) all proficient but expertise level 23? 20 was supposed to be the max? So to break away and gain more you have to USE the gear and skills in PVE to level up VS playing the new countdown mode and being a part of the “Herd” and DONATING ALL FKING DAY. That’s F**ked up! I got GOT! All this time really? They need to fix this mess and get it right. I’m F**king PISSED. I don’t do the TOMBS and do things that are against terms of service for MASSIVE or UBISOFT. This is the system they introduced to us and it’s not right. We are playing the Countdown because of this new system? And now that’s not what we should do? WOW please send MY message to the developers. I’m not trying to be negative but really? Thank you for the information and God Bless my friend.
I hear you bro! Hopefully they fix this asap so we can have some clarity. Also the tombs is not against their service, they have confirmed that already 🙏🏾
Is not against their service, is legit but boring as hell…
Is it fixed ? Can I donate now? 9/6/2023?
Is it too late to ask for a refund from the community??😁
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Dont do the tombs hack. You will get rolled back
Devs has mentioned that it’s not a glitch or against their terms
@@DivisionAddiction i hope that is right. as thats not what some have said. im no where near so im good for now lol
Announced. They are rolling back 17.05 announcement.
Did they fix it?
Did they fix this
i have a question. I am doing trying this but however the proficiency only increase for my 2nd weapon. Not the rest of everything like armor, skills and handguns. Why is this? or am i doing it wrong?
Since the update they have changed a few things. As of now, you SHOULD donate, the tombs thing is patched so that won’t work. Run countdown, if you are trying to get gear proficient, put on 6 pieces in countdown, target the same loot that you are wearing, after 2 runs of countdown mark all what you got as junk and donate it. Within 2 runs it will be proficient. For the weapons farm for different guns each countdown run and donate them after, that’s how you can level up everything quicker.
Useless game .... Crash in the middle of Count Down ... Crash at extract .... Crash crash crash ... the developers didnt fix the fucking crash bug ...
Crashes have been happening a lot during countdown for me
Is this got fixed
Highly late on this they already pushing a patch
Yeah I’m always late to the party🤣 but some people in this comment section had no clue so I’m glad I can help others. Patch notes was released yesterday, 31st of May is the day of the patch,hopefully it gets fixed
Is this still the case?
This trick doesn't work anymore.
What you using to jam in the tombs? And how you get scorpio
The scorpio can be gotten from any place dropping shotguns just run the heroic difficulty and it will drop eventually from the towers or open world.
Is this fixed?
Heartland need to drop…
Can’t wait for that man
@@DivisionAddiction i can’t take this farming simulator anymore m, I want some PvP action…