The Groveland Four: Florida Pardons Men Falsely Accused in Jim Crow-Era Rape Case in 1949
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- Опубліковано 13 січ 2019
- democracynow.org - Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has granted posthumous pardons to four young African-American men accused of raping a white woman near Groveland, Florida, in 1949. Two men were brutally murdered as a result of the false accusations. The case is now seen as a racially charged miscarriage of justice emblematic of the Jim Crow South. The story of the “Groveland Four,” now 70 years old, has continued to haunt the state of Florida. We speak with Gilbert King, Pulitzer Prize-winning author of “Devil in the Grove: Thurgood Marshall, the Groveland Boys, and the Dawn of a New America,” and Carol Greenlee, daughter of Charles Greenlee, one of the Groveland Four.
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These families need to sue the feds and state of FL
I hope they are
@@tomasinacovell4293Wow! Punish the victims for the actions of their oppressors?! That is seriously effed up. Psychotic even.
That’s not even enough
Could not agree more expose them and sue them all as a white man from the uk I find white Americans treatment of African Americans truly shameful and disgusting .
Reparations needed now
A history of the south that should never be forgotten.
How that woman to this day can sit there in her wheelchair and keep on that lie is so sick to me. At least she will die with hate in heart. She should still be in jail
If anyone need an example of systematic racism look no further than this.
@Mr Moo Totally agree. People like that use those terms and arguments to justify their actions when their caught or their inaction when nothing is done in the face of injustice.
@@cotinaspann9475
You do not know your Black History
FIRST
Black Moors enslaved Whites for 700 years
AFTER
Whites enslaved Blacks for 400 years
Its your Karma
For the 700 years
Of White Slavery
By you Black Moors
@SkyyBey
I will help
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Because ...I am kind
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@@APEX-qv7rm the minute you say cultural Marxism I realize you have nothing of value to add to any conversation.
@@z.s.7992 respect to you for realizing the other person in the conversation is just on some insane drugs or just that racist. Still can’t believe I read that
I would like to ask the people who have disliked this article; What is in it for you?
Ok the governor did a great thing in admitting the truth in that particular case. But what of the mob of murderers that murdered the first innocent of the four? And what of the murdering police officer that murdered two of the innocent four? And the murdering of innocent unarmed black men by cops has continued to this day.
Biggwill NYC Exactly
Yes. How about posthumously convicting the real criminals, the truly guilty, the killers, all of whom never faced any kind of civil justice?
@@johnpaul5474 Agreed. And reparations must be paid for the wrongful prosecutions and "wrongful deaths" (murders). And the amounts should be large enough to deter racist cops and judiciary of today!
@@BeingKyleBusch18 The interview isn't even about the governor, but more about exposing the hideous injustices that took so long for the state to acknowledge. Ms Greenlea said her family was relieved at the clemency because her family has lived with a stigma for so long, and I would not deny them this moment that they've fought for for so long.
If you figure out how to dismantle systemic racism by yourself, I'll cheer for you, but it seems that deep social change requires mobilizing a great mass of people, so I wish you wouldn't diss your black brothers and sisters--and other allies.
+H Glavina
That would be justice, but justice is rare in this country, in this world.
If they are innocent what are they being 'pardoned' for? They aren't the ones that need pardoning
True. They should be exonerated, not pardoned. And the perps should be convicted posthumously.
How one of the grown daughters can say; "This is the greatest country in the world." I want to know why she thinks that... Peace.
I wondered the same thing....
Its called stockholm syndrome
Unbelievable how this was the norm back then. Willing to fight and defend your country and the thanks these brave military men get is the other end of a rope. The United States should be ashamed of itself.
They're not.
Where is the big check to pay off their children and grandchildren? Zero consequence then or today for these actions of southern racism.
No!
Keep the apologies and excuses and pay those families for their losses.
SOMETHINGS NEVER CHANGE 👿👿👿
It's crazy, I grew up in Groveland and I've never heard of this?!?!? Why didn't we hear about this at south lake (which was the only high-school in Groveland in the 2000s). As scary as it is there was tree they called the handing tree when I was growing up. I don't know if it's still there but the racial injustices that happened there will forever leave scars. There's even an area referred to as the quarters bc it once was where the slave quarters where (or at least that what people said). The city literally did nothing to help the people who lived in the homes there. It seemed like no money from the infrastructure budget went to help maintain the road and sewage issues. Just so sad.
Wow! Only took 70 years. Great job Florida.
literally sick after listening to this. No mention of damages.
No Free Cheese
It’s so sad it took 70 years to pardon this case.. the use of doing this now is almost useless since the damage is already done. That’s my opinion
R.I.P😔
Innocence of a life denied. At least one of them could still be alive but it's still going on in the shadows 🤕😤🌱
I didn't know my boyfriend is the great nephew of one of Groveland 4 boys. This hurts to be on the other side of history. I don't see much change in Fl. I've lived in lake county majority all my life. We still have to be careful what we do and where we go after certain times if the day or night. Scary story in history that white America tries to hide it. Thank you Gilbert King for writing the story.
The african american need to sue the American government and demand compensation for the 400yrs plus they were forced into slavery!!!
So Norma and her fam stands by the accusation...ffs ..if there is a hell ..its waiting
Jail Norma Padgett, period
I'm surprised Mrs. Greenlee accepts that weak was apology. To me, it was too little too late.
Damage already done
Wow this is eye opening. Getting the book now.
I pray on a regular basis, with deep gratitude that I was not born in the USA. The mindless hatred that seems to permeate every stratum of society is appalling. Past time for collective justice for Black America.
I have tremendous gratitude that I am not a Conservative hater, and that just because I don't subscribe to party politics or the Trump circus doesn't mean I'm not an American.
The story needs to be told but it sure is difficult to listen to.
This wasn’t the distant past this was the 1950’s, 70 years ago I have parents that age, I bet some of the criminals responsible for this terrorism are still alive
And this lady still lying 🤥 at 86 years old and they didn’t 🔐 her 🆙 this some Bs
Pure Evil !
I live in Groveland. Have been since 2006. I didn’t hear about this story until my brother in law told me about it. So sad how how nothing has changed much today in 2020. Now we living through GEORGE FLOYD. Keep praying everyone regardless of your race. KEEP PRAYING
Hey Frat
Justice! Exonerated 72 years later. Rest in Freedom, brothers
The hearts of the wicked.
Anyone's here after the exoneration
It took them 70 years to do this go figure! Too late in my opinion!
When I listen to democracy now this morning and even at this moment I'm just crying we as a people have lived through so much hate yes they can sue for money cheer up broken heart and the Injustice that was done to them and others a week ago a white man shot 7 year old girl in Houston Texas and the police wants to blame it on to black men another man was just shot in Florida because he was black the history of racism is live and well God bless us as a people
me too. I just finished crying, wondering what black people have done wrong in this world. They took our forefathers away on slavery, they came back to colonize our countries and then continue with systemic racism till today. What have we done wrong???
They family need to be held accountable for this because of the racism the other family members experienced
This is like the Central Park 5
I need audio of sheriff mccall. Anyone know where I can find?
"different justice system"?? Buh-HA!!
- thank you for utilizing your time wisely- by reporting these facts.
1940's system still corrupt
This was a doggone shame. 70 years to get justice and it really doesn’t mean much because they’re already dead. And Desantis only pardoned them to try and make himself not look like a racist. If he lived back then he probably would have been one of the people in the racist mob.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, Yt women tears.
So why are they finally getting pardoned now, the Governor of Florida sure didn't seem very excited about this and it's quite surprising to see that Republican's care so very much about civil rights and justice for minorities.
"good old boy" still runs shit down here
What was the name of the movie they made
After so many insurance and unfairness trust can not be possible, is it?
I am highly bothered by the interviewer cutting off Mrs Greenlee when she was trying to answer her question and then after she told about going to visit her father as a 3-year-old and how she had to grow up without him and feel like she was doing time with him, that the interviewer had no compassion and seemingly no empathy for the child. She just went straight to the other guy and talked about the government and bureaucratic bull. Mrs Greenlee I am deeply saddened for what your family had to go through. None of this was alright, none of it at all. God bless you ma'am.
PARDONs??????????? Why is it called a pardon? If they didn’t do it😭
I was watching a film like that. But it was more than 7 years ago, can some one get me some names of film about that?
😢😢😢
Damn Fam.
She is lying
Surprise this wasn’t made into a movie
Finally!!!
Look at the 80 year old! Don't ever forget women's role in white supremacy.
This is so performative why don't you take action to protect the falsely accused black men in your jails right now that can still be saved. I'm glad the family has some closure but come on this does nothing to help future victims of false convictions.
This historic event is too little too late.
Why would 1000 people go after one guy?
She’s still keeping up the lie smh
What happened to the sheriff?
Nothing has changed in 2022
Same for 2024 !!!!!
My mom was just talking bout this a few days ago this is 5 minutes outside of my home town. It has always been racist things happening through out lake county but people would look the other way
What a great country.
This POS should have been charged for her false accusations (with racially invoked background, which should be a higher crime than just 'normal' false accusations) and for the havoc she wreaked. And the sherriff also should have been charged for the murder of 2 of them. Just sick.
It's Always way too late. After the fact
They fuckn dead smh
Is it just me or that yt lady kept cutting my girl off🤦🏽♀️
Right i peeped that too sht was disrespectful asf I’m like let her finish 🤦🏾♂️
23:40: King must've had one crazy day hey - you get a call from your publisher that they'll be remaindering your book and on the same day you get a call that the book has earned you a Pulitzer Prize! Then the publisher withdraws his statement about it. WTF? LOL. Anyway, any day of justice is a good day and good on DeSantis (despite his many flaws)
The united states of America law are no different from South Africa Apartheid.
The statement I'm fixing to me may not be totally connected to this subject but yesterday I tried to give a comment about this man and the wall in that I said that give him whatever he wants so that we could open up the government because we have people that don't have food we have people that don't have jobs they need their paychecks and then on top of that weather so bad all over the country and I'm saying also that we need to pray and make you notes for the people that hate comments that I got I literally had to take them down where I'm going with that is the civility of our world today it's gone there's no understanding about other people we have not come that far being black in this country it's hard literally I had to leave America I live down in Guadalajara Mexico and it's wonderful and peace so what we can do is pray that love and understanding hopefully what happened every race Monday God bless all of us God bless America
what happened to believe all women?
These similar stories will continue to resurface. Fortunately, we are woke and the people with hate in there hearts will be held accountable. I get why Marshall had so much hatred...He had black fearures... scared of the unknown.
If governor Desantis was around when this happened he would have helped the sheriff with the executions.
Screw this pardon! It cannot undo the horrors these innocent men and their families endured.
Huge monetary compensation is the only decent action that can come close to a symbolic apology or pardon.
i guess we just imagined that the bro who drove his car into the parade is innocent cause he black he black he black he black
MAGA! Please MARA! That's what he really meant! Ugh!
She was not only physically abused but mentally as well to the point where she’s still false testifying at eighty plus. It’s not only a horrific story of black abuse but women too. I’m not justifying what she did but she’s a victim clearly.
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