Haha glad to hear! I’d say just make sure the structures you mount everything to are fairly secure and solid. This will help with the overall experience and functionality. Thanks and good luck!
You're using a type of electrical conduit called "EMT" - Electric Metalic Tubing. You need to get the type called "RMC" - Rigid Metallic Tubing. It's galvanized steel. Doesn't rust. EMT rusts and it's thinner.
Your absolutely right! I would have and probably should have. The only reason I went with “EMT” is because of it’s lower cost. When the Boeing of this post eventually drives me crazy I’ll probably switch to “RMC” as per your suggestion. Thanks for the tip!
Haha Moisture and humidity are not things we need to worry about too often in the desert. But, I probably should have used better quality materials to begin with for peace of mind. Haha thanks for your support!
I’m no language articulation expert, but it seems to me that this person may possibly be insulting you. Where I’m from if someone calls you a broke-boy… Well those are fighting words & more than likely within a few seconds someone is going to start swinging.
Thanks for the heads up! Never heard that one! I think @momaj6028 is just emphasizing that saving money is in both our interest regardless of whether it’s ’broke folk’ or ‘redneck’. A similar structure could cost thousands where this simple solution only a few hundred. I’ll keep my eye out for the ‘sneak dissing’ though. Thanks again! Stay well!
Critiques 1.) That type of shade material gets really beat up in the sun and will rip in roughly a year 2.) When he needs to replace it, he will need to remove all those tapcons, thus making it not hold after replacing it over and over. 3.) Their is no way to let out the sail when major wind storms are eminent. 4.) The Zip ties will slowly break in the elements, but i guess that is an easy replacement. All these critiques are minimal minus the need to mess with the tapcons. Overall, good project. Looks nice
Ya, the material has baked a little with the intense heat but is inexpensive enough to replace after a couple years I can justify. Tapcon screws are a bit of a pain when it comes time to remove, but with an impact and a little wire to take up excess space, they do the job. Zip ties have for sure gotten brittle and I have replaced quite a few of them. Thanks for your input! Pretty spot on with your observations!! Haha stay well!
Good stuff chap, looks as good as a brought one. In future running a wire and buying a cut length of horticultural shade netting a rough stitch along it for a nice edge and a bag of net clips would keep $50 in your pocket. $60 USD is $96 NZD. Your out looks like mars compared to wet NZ bush, can you shoot coyote's from the back fence? .22-250, Mrs on the spotting scope and a 6 pack of beer sounds like a good arvo.
Nice! Thanks for the tip! I’ll keep that in mind for the next version! If you can keep it quiet, you could certainly hunt coyotes. I’ve seen a few scurry by at dusk. Would certainly make for a good time! Haha lots of rabbits though! Thanks and stay well friend!
@@CEEJ-MANboltaction .300 subs and a really big suppressor 👍 I think they are restricted there 🤯 a loaf of bread would be more restricted here incase you have allergies 🤣 A can is just PPE
Haha thanks man! I know it isn’t perfect, but hopefully it inspires you with some ideas with yours! I’ll post a follow up video soon with some updates and improvements!
You could have used a 10-foot stick of rigid conduit. It'll cost a lot more of course but it's way stronger. As an electrician I've collected quite a few over the years. Used them to build a 50'-100' 6' tall chain link dogpen
That’s a good idea. I was tempted when I purchased the other conduit but it was double the price… wish I had in the long run! Haha thanks and stay well!
Great ideas. Looks like a fun play and relaxation area. I liked how you thought out loud in your description of the construction. I am concerned about your small looking hook attachment at your house-beef it up!!
Thanks! I often, I have to think out loud to even understand what I’m doing! Haha the area is fun but in constant change and evolution haha the next video will probably look very different! I have beefed up the anchor hook on the house to 5/8” thickness per your suggestion. Thanks for your feedback!
You could check out the (part 2) for the most recent changes. Probably running cables around all edges would have helped with structural stability and material longevity better. What size is the are your looking to cover?
I finally looked up those rails on google. That’s also a great idea! I like that you can extend the height. You said you pored concrete down the pipes for extra strength? Thanks for your thoughts!
I used 50% mesh because it was what was available at our local hardware store. There’s a noticeable difference when standing under the mesh. The 80-95% would be nice! It’ll certainly catch more wind when it blows though. I think as long as you had it anchored well with strong poles you’d probably love it! Let us see your project once it’s done! Best of luck!
Pulling on a masonry wall like that is scary. You'd be amazed how much load a sail like that can pull with. It'll be fine until it's a freak accident, there will be no warning and then that wall will pull in, hopefully not on top of someone. Don't put masonry in tension or bending it is very weak in tension and cracks without bending, you've got a huge moment arm with a giant potential load. I would not let my family around that.
It’s somewhat apparent in this video, but much more prevalent in the follow up video. There is a cable anchor that actually supports it at a calculated angle so this worry is no longer a concern. That being said, You were correct. Thanks for your feedback!
@@CEEJ-MAN i mean the big wall to the neighbors yard where the sail is mounted to the top above all the kids play stuff, not the little wall with the steel post.
The $50 dollar 6*6*10’ is the best solution for all vertical posts. My first “ try “ chain link fence pole masts failed pretty quick. You can get fatter 10’ poles now made for shade cloth, but the cost for one is about $150 and $250 for two poles. Bob3b2
Thanks for the input! I’ll probably attempt to revamp this system with a wooden 6*6 this fall. Much more cost effective when it comes to a budget build! Thanks again and stay well!
Surprisingly well so far. I’d say this year I probably need to figure out a better post solution. Had a bad wind storm that bent it a little. Might do a follow up sometime this summer. Thanks for reaching out! Stay well!
I thought about doing something like this over my pool but weaving steel cables through the grommets so I could slide it back if I wanted. Do you think that would work? I would tightening the steel cables tight so I shouldn't get any sag, just curious if you think it would slide back and forth easily? Great job on your project.
Should be able to do so through grommets. Might take a couple people to help slide as it could potentially bind up. Some cheap cable pulleys on Amazon might make it slide easier. Send me your pics/video when you get to trying it out! I’d be curious to see what you come up with!
I live in Phoenix and was at Harbor Freight today, I saw these and I am considering using them in a vertical position to shade a east facing wall and a south facing wall to help cool a room. How have they held up in the time you have been using them?
Surprisingly well. I expected the sun to deteriorate them after a couple harsh summers it they’re still holding together pretty well. I’d say it’s an inexpensive solution to at least try! Good luck and stay well! Thanks!
Hogh winds can be scary haha I kept an eye on it for a long time. Eventually, the pole bent due to a cable anchor failure and I had to replace it. Had I not filled the post with concrete, it would have simply snapped the pole and sent it flying around. That being said, the material of the tarp never tore. They’re still relatively new, I’m sure over time the sun will cool the tarp and will eventually tear, but so far so good! Did you ever end up trying your project? Send me pictures if you do! I’d love to see your ideas!
Thanks! we had a pretty severe wind storm a few weeks ago. It certainly blew around a bit, but as the wind was able to pass through the material it was fairly clam. I ended up adding a tensioning spring along the cable to absorb most of the high speed gusts and that has helped a lot. Maybe I’ll try to make a follow-up video soon to show the updates and current status. Thanks for commenting!
@@CEEJ-MAN Ahh yes, that would be cool. I had a huge sun shade and during a crazy wind storm it actually snapped one of the wood posts and I had a freakin' sharp speak flying in the air like a flag. Scary stuff.
It largely depends on your home’s finish and the depth of your anchor. For example, my home’s finish is ‘stucco’. Behind the stick is 2” of styrofoam and then finally the OSB wood stricture. I used screws that were almost 3” in order to penetrate the wood, however there is some play within the stucco/styrofoam, so the screws needed to be larger diameter/thicker for less play. What is your ho finish like? Thanks!
@@CEEJ-MAN I saw stucco and styrofoam on the exterior and not sure what’s beneath that. Since our home is built during Covid time, I can say the quality is not as good as they used to be…
Haha unfortunately, I’m in the same situation as you. You could use an anchor plate with 2” or 3” screws to distribute the weight across the stucco and give it better stability. I’d just snug the plate agains the stucco enough to keep it secure, but loose enough to keep it from cracking the stucco. www.lowes.com/pd/Coolaroo-Coolaroo-S-S-Diamond-Pad-Eye/5005369913?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-sol-_-ggl-_-PMAX_SOL_000_Priority_Items-_-5005369913-_-local-_-0-_-0&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAAD2B2W9AVCjLLX85sY8qwWrL_FeGt&gclid=Cj0KCQjws560BhCuARIsAHMqE0G-JeZZVoDUBER7OWBAXVFb88Xq9ebWeG9q0eBa1SaY2TmmUbr-tXEaAs3nEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
Still holding strong after the most recent storm. I’ll be doing a follow up video from the last Two months and walking you through the things I’ve learned along with some updates to rigging. Thanks for tuning in! This is a great and inexpensive way to give yourself a lot of shade. Thanks for reaching out!
Ya, the concrete in the pole didn’t do much in terms of rigidity, but it did help keep the post from pinching in the middle, caving, and snapping haha. Ultimately, a cable was needed and I also added a tensioning spring with the cable to absorb any strong bursts of wind that might strain the anchors. Working on a Two month follow up video with all the updates. Thanks for your feedback!
Southern Utah, and we also have intense winds at times. It’s actually help up surprisingly well aside from one minor flaw that I’m in the process of making a follow up video about now. As long as you can secure the cornea or leasing edges we’ll, the mesh should let the majority of the wind pass through. A tensioning spring on the corners with a turnbuckle take a lot of the strong wind burst strain off the anchors. Keep an eye out for the follow up video soon!
Also a great idea. Wouldn’t have mattered in this application though. Pole bent in a bad wind storm and I address it in a follow up video. Thanks and stay well!
Ya, I know it’s not ideal. Be easier if someone else managed all the camera gear while I try to get everything else done. Thanks for your feedback! Stay well!
the brick colored paint was genius
Seriously, when I found it I was supper jazzed! Thanks and stay well!
OMG!!!! you have just saved me a ton of money and now i can do more projects! absolutely love this! doing this !!
Haha glad to hear! I’d say just make sure the structures you mount everything to are fairly secure and solid. This will help with the overall experience and functionality. Thanks and good luck!
You're using a type of electrical conduit called "EMT" - Electric Metalic Tubing. You need to get the type called "RMC" - Rigid Metallic Tubing. It's galvanized steel. Doesn't rust. EMT rusts and it's thinner.
Your absolutely right! I would have and probably should have. The only reason I went with “EMT” is because of it’s lower cost. When the Boeing of this post eventually drives me crazy I’ll probably switch to “RMC” as per your suggestion. Thanks for the tip!
He's right to an extent...it does rust but you probably won't have to worry about it in your lifetime 😉 your kids will
My guy. He’s in the desert 🌵 haha
Haha Moisture and humidity are not things we need to worry about too often in the desert. But, I probably should have used better quality materials to begin with for peace of mind. Haha thanks for your support!
Rigde does rust sir. You might be thinking of plastibond
You call it redneck way, I call it the broke folk way 😂😂 it's all about saving money ! Great job ! ❤
Haha I agree! It's all about those budget builds. Thanks for your comments!
I’m no language articulation expert, but it seems to me that this person may possibly be insulting you. Where I’m from if someone calls you a broke-boy… Well those are fighting words & more than likely within a few seconds someone is going to start swinging.
The youngsters nowadays will often refer to this as “sneak dissing”
Thanks for the heads up! Never heard that one! I think @momaj6028 is just emphasizing that saving money is in both our interest regardless of whether it’s ’broke folk’ or ‘redneck’. A similar structure could cost thousands where this simple solution only a few hundred. I’ll keep my eye out for the ‘sneak dissing’ though. Thanks again! Stay well!
This is insanely impressive in so many ways. I do respect a good less expensive alternative to a diy project. Well done!!
Haha thanks! Means a lot! It’s made it possible to go outside this summer! Stay well!
From one dad to another, this was a fantastic video! No fancy jargon, simple, accessible and such a friendly tone. Really good stuff!
Thank you sir! Means a lot. Takes a lot of time to make a video too! Sheesh! Haha stay well friend!
Critiques
1.) That type of shade material gets really beat up in the sun and will rip in roughly a year
2.) When he needs to replace it, he will need to remove all those tapcons, thus making it not hold after replacing it over and over.
3.) Their is no way to let out the sail when major wind storms are eminent.
4.) The Zip ties will slowly break in the elements, but i guess that is an easy replacement.
All these critiques are minimal minus the need to mess with the tapcons. Overall, good project. Looks nice
Ya, the material has baked a little with the intense heat but is inexpensive enough to replace after a couple years I can justify.
Tapcon screws are a bit of a pain when it comes time to remove, but with an impact and a little wire to take up excess space, they do the job.
Zip ties have for sure gotten brittle and I have replaced quite a few of them.
Thanks for your input! Pretty spot on with your observations!! Haha stay well!
Dude this is awesome! Thank you so so much for posting this!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks! Stay well!
Very smart idea and your kids will benefit greatly. Great Job!
Thanks for your feedback! Stay well!
Good stuff chap, looks as good as a brought one.
In future running a wire and buying a cut length of horticultural shade netting a rough stitch along it for a nice edge and a bag of net clips would keep $50 in your pocket. $60 USD is $96 NZD.
Your out looks like mars compared to wet NZ bush, can you shoot coyote's from the back fence?
.22-250, Mrs on the spotting scope and a 6 pack of beer sounds like a good arvo.
Nice! Thanks for the tip! I’ll keep that in mind for the next version! If you can keep it quiet, you could certainly hunt coyotes. I’ve seen a few scurry by at dusk. Would certainly make for a good time! Haha lots of rabbits though! Thanks and stay well friend!
@@CEEJ-MANboltaction .300 subs and a really big suppressor 👍
I think they are restricted there 🤯 a loaf of bread would be more restricted here incase you have allergies 🤣
A can is just PPE
Love the video, love the idea, going to try it out myself. Great videos, keep up the great work!!
Haha thanks man! I know it isn’t perfect, but hopefully it inspires you with some ideas with yours! I’ll post a follow up video soon with some updates and improvements!
You could have used a 10-foot stick of rigid conduit. It'll cost a lot more of course but it's way stronger. As an electrician I've collected quite a few over the years. Used them to build a 50'-100' 6' tall chain link dogpen
That’s a good idea. I was tempted when I purchased the other conduit but it was double the price… wish I had in the long run! Haha thanks and stay well!
Great ideas. Looks like a fun play and relaxation area. I liked how you thought out loud in your description of the construction. I am concerned about your small looking hook attachment at your house-beef it up!!
Thanks! I often, I have to think out loud to even understand what I’m doing! Haha the area is fun but in constant change and evolution haha the next video will probably look very different! I have beefed up the anchor hook on the house to 5/8” thickness per your suggestion. Thanks for your feedback!
Looks great! Definitely helped with the ideas floating in my head. 😅
Ya, sometimes you just need to see how a dozen different people try things haha good luck!
Hey, and if you're like me, those ideas multiple and you start using the product on 100 other things !!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
It’s true! Haha I’m sure my wife is tired of all my redneckery. But we’ve sure saved lots! Thanks! And stay well!
that's a great job, man.
Thanks man! I appreciate the feedback!
Nice work.
Thanks so much! I appreciate your feedback! Stay well!
Here in the Midwest I would be concrete down the mounting pole BIG thunderstorms winds !!
Ya, concrete is surely the way to do it! Thanks and stay well!
Looks good- I wonder how this help us for you and your family any changes you would make ?
You could check out the (part 2) for the most recent changes. Probably running cables around all edges would have helped with structural stability and material longevity better. What size is the are your looking to cover?
I like the way you think!
Thanks! I hope it helped stay well!
We used top rail 2 5/8 rail made for yard fabric fencing then backfilled with sackcrete , you can buy swage extentions to add 😊 height
I finally looked up those rails on google. That’s also a great idea! I like that you can extend the height. You said you pored concrete down the pipes for extra strength? Thanks for your thoughts!
@@CEEJ-MAN we always take them down during windy days ,quick and easy with turn buckles ,so far so good.
Nice!
Awesome! I'll do a similar project soon here on the Canary islands
Tell me about the 50% mesh though
I'm thinking to use 80%-95%
I used 50% mesh because it was what was available at our local hardware store. There’s a noticeable difference when standing under the mesh. The 80-95% would be nice! It’ll certainly catch more wind when it blows though. I think as long as you had it anchored well with strong poles you’d probably love it! Let us see your project once it’s done! Best of luck!
Pulling on a masonry wall like that is scary. You'd be amazed how much load a sail like that can pull with. It'll be fine until it's a freak accident, there will be no warning and then that wall will pull in, hopefully not on top of someone. Don't put masonry in tension or bending it is very weak in tension and cracks without bending, you've got a huge moment arm with a giant potential load. I would not let my family around that.
It’s somewhat apparent in this video, but much more prevalent in the follow up video. There is a cable anchor that actually supports it at a calculated angle so this worry is no longer a concern. That being said, You were correct. Thanks for your feedback!
@@CEEJ-MAN i mean the big wall to the neighbors yard where the sail is mounted to the top above all the kids play stuff, not the little wall with the steel post.
Right. I’ll think on that for next season and see if I can come up with a better solution. Thanks for your feedback!
The $50 dollar 6*6*10’ is the best solution for all vertical posts. My first “ try “ chain link fence pole masts failed pretty quick. You can get fatter 10’ poles now made for shade cloth, but the cost for one is about $150 and $250 for two poles.
Bob3b2
Thanks for the input! I’ll probably attempt to revamp this system with a wooden 6*6 this fall. Much more cost effective when it comes to a budget build! Thanks again and stay well!
Looks great! How is it holding up over time?
Surprisingly well so far. I’d say this year I probably need to figure out a better post solution. Had a bad wind storm that bent it a little. Might do a follow up sometime this summer. Thanks for reaching out! Stay well!
I thought about doing something like this over my pool but weaving steel cables through the grommets so I could slide it back if I wanted. Do you think that would work? I would tightening the steel cables tight so I shouldn't get any sag, just curious if you think it would slide back and forth easily? Great job on your project.
Should be able to do so through grommets. Might take a couple people to help slide as it could potentially bind up. Some cheap cable pulleys on Amazon might make it slide easier. Send me your pics/video when you get to trying it out! I’d be curious to see what you come up with!
Looks hot as piss out there 😂
You have no Friken idea! Haha
Piss is cool by comparison
Haha very true! Thx and stay well!
I live in Phoenix and was at Harbor Freight today, I saw these and I am considering using them in a vertical position to shade a east facing wall and a south facing wall to help cool a room. How have they held up in the time you have been using them?
Surprisingly well. I expected the sun to deteriorate them after a couple harsh summers it they’re still holding together pretty well. I’d say it’s an inexpensive solution to at least try! Good luck and stay well! Thanks!
What about high winds?
Hogh winds can be scary haha I kept an eye on it for a long time. Eventually, the pole bent due to a cable anchor failure and I had to replace it. Had I not filled the post with concrete, it would have simply snapped the pole and sent it flying around. That being said, the material of the tarp never tore. They’re still relatively new, I’m sure over time the sun will cool the tarp and will eventually tear, but so far so good! Did you ever end up trying your project? Send me pictures if you do! I’d love to see your ideas!
The fencing aile at home depot has post for $21 10ft 1 3/8
Nice! I’ll look into that when I swap out the post. Thanks for the suggestion!
very smart
Thanks! Appreciate your feedback!
Nice diy bro
Thanks man! Stay well!
How is it holding up? Have you dealt with any winds yet?
Also, great video!!
Thanks! we had a pretty severe wind storm a few weeks ago. It certainly blew around a bit, but as the wind was able to pass through the material it was fairly clam. I ended up adding a tensioning spring along the cable to absorb most of the high speed gusts and that has helped a lot. Maybe I’ll try to make a follow-up video soon to show the updates and current status. Thanks for commenting!
@@CEEJ-MAN Ahh yes, that would be cool.
I had a huge sun shade and during a crazy wind storm it actually snapped one of the wood posts and I had a freakin' sharp speak flying in the air like a flag. Scary stuff.
Haha that’s the last thing you want is flying shrapnel! Glad you serviced the incident! Thanks and stay well!
I’ve an option to tie to home on two sides of the cloth. Will that be able to hold well or damage any way to the home ? Thx
It largely depends on your home’s finish and the depth of your anchor. For example, my home’s finish is ‘stucco’. Behind the stick is 2” of styrofoam and then finally the OSB wood stricture. I used screws that were almost 3” in order to penetrate the wood, however there is some play within the stucco/styrofoam, so the screws needed to be larger diameter/thicker for less play. What is your ho finish like? Thanks!
@@CEEJ-MAN I saw stucco and styrofoam on the exterior and not sure what’s beneath that. Since our home is built during Covid time, I can say the quality is not as good as they used to be…
Haha unfortunately, I’m in the same situation as you. You could use an anchor plate with 2” or 3” screws to distribute the weight across the stucco and give it better stability. I’d just snug the plate agains the stucco enough to keep it secure, but loose enough to keep it from cracking the stucco.
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@@CEEJ-MAN thx
No problem, good luck!
Quick question where did you get the pole again?
Got that one from Home Depot. 2” electrical conduit… I would go with the “Rigid”. Much more stable! Thanks and stay well!
How’s it holding up after the last weeks winds and storms in southern Utah. I am looking at doing something similar
Still holding strong after the most recent storm. I’ll be doing a follow up video from the last Two months and walking you through the things I’ve learned along with some updates to rigging. Thanks for tuning in! This is a great and inexpensive way to give yourself a lot of shade. Thanks for reaching out!
This place looks hot as balls. Shade or no shade. Issa no for me dawg
Haha for sure not for the faint of heart. Shade is the most valuable real estate in the desert! Stay well!
Yeah concrete in the pipe did nothing its just not structural that way. I see you put in a cable brace on the pole though!
Ya, the concrete in the pole didn’t do much in terms of rigidity, but it did help keep the post from pinching in the middle, caving, and snapping haha. Ultimately, a cable was needed and I also added a tensioning spring with the cable to absorb any strong bursts of wind that might strain the anchors. Working on a Two month follow up video with all the updates. Thanks for your feedback!
This is smart.
Thanks! It’s been a blessing through the summer for sure!
Aye, be sure to se@l all you're joints, washer's and bases for optimum life (so it does not rust out on you).😎
Good call. What do you use to seal the joints? A spray?
Are you in AZ? I want to do something similar, but worried about monsoon winds
Southern Utah, and we also have intense winds at times. It’s actually help up surprisingly well aside from one minor flaw that I’m in the process of making a follow up video about now. As long as you can secure the cornea or leasing edges we’ll, the mesh should let the majority of the wind pass through. A tensioning spring on the corners with a turnbuckle take a lot of the strong wind burst strain off the anchors. Keep an eye out for the follow up video soon!
@@CEEJ-MAN ok, following you on YT...can't wait!
Thanks! We’ll try not to disappoint!
How did it work?
Worked well. Loosened up a little over time. A little tightening solves it. Post needs an upgrade. Thanks! Stay well!
transparent shader :)
Cuts out a good amount of sun for sure! Thanks and stay well!
I thought this was bigdawgtv at first lol
What an honor haha. I hear bigdawstv is quitting UA-cam so maybe I’ll try to move in haha
❤
Thanks!! Stay well!
Could have just poured sand in the pole
Also a great idea. Wouldn’t have mattered in this application though. Pole bent in a bad wind storm and I address it in a follow up video. Thanks and stay well!
Can’t watch your video. Camera is all,over the place. Actually got dizzy!
Ya, I know it’s not ideal. Be easier if someone else managed all the camera gear while I try to get everything else done. Thanks for your feedback! Stay well!
*bet that tarp won't last*
Bet you’re right!
6'*6'*10' ground contact rated treated post $50 at Hine Depot...
… now that I’ve thought more about it, it’s not a bad option. Maybe I’ll need to update this Spring. Thanks for the suggestion!