Only Theatre of Pain (in my opinion) is one of the best albums of all time. An absolute masterpiece. Rikk Agnew is such a great and stylish guitarist from Adolescents to Christian Death
The albums with Rozz and Rikk in it are all fenomenal albums, I love Shadow Project and Daucus Karota too, everything Rozz did really. Love his artwork too, I'm regularly dipping in this book about Rozz, he was a very inspiring guy! A whole way of life, and always being creative in many different directions, a guy like that can keep you going, doing great stuff. Gitane and Rikk, peace to you both! PS: I love to smoke weed too, it keeps me going since a 1000 yrs. Wouldn't wanna live without it! :) from NL
Rikk Agnew,Paul cripple(Reagan youth) ,the original guitarist for zero boys,bill close(freeZe),pig champ(P.I.),Adam seigal( faction) all these dudes are mad rippers
I met Rozz twice and Gitane once at White Slug in Long Beach- she had her new baby with her. Strange, but nobody else was there. They were all so nice and gracious for us nerdy teens. Especially Rozz.
Agnew has a stratospheric sound and tone that really set a standard for the "death-rock" sound, guitar-wise I think. Octaves and a reverb set on 11 is all you need after all. Amazing and unusual for the time. I first heard about them in about 1986 hanging out with a couple of death-rock chicks in my HS parking lot and our morning "smoking club". Cigarettes. Not weed.
Genuinely! So much of deathrock is just a nod to the Rikk Agnew guitar sound - Christian Death championed the standard of deathrock and goth to follow.
He sounds like a really down to earth person. I expected something different. What that is I don't know but, he's got a good attitude and doesn't trash people.
These two seem so enamored with one another. To know of each other for 30 years to finally fall in love is amazing. Good to see some good come from the Christian Death experience
Gitane & Rick the both of u r awesome Rozz Williams is the love of my life , just an awesome artist and Rick u were the best guitarist in Christian Death Gitane ur just completely awesome
I do not play guitar because of you, Rick, I'm trying to do "art" because of both of you ! Gitane &Rick, you rock !! Ilisten to your music every day since 40 years ... Ok Now it's time have more, please, give us more !!! You fu**** legends !!!
Agnew's work on Only Theatre of Pain is just amazing. The tone, atmosphere, etc. That's actually the only stuff of his I've ever listened to. Never checked out Adolescents.
I'm really happy to see these tow together and even better, their world view (semi-collectively). It's great to see the death rockers I grew up with grow into the future.
yoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, there was a whole documentary about Rozz here on youtube where is it! deleted?? cant find it anymore!! it was like fanmade
That's cool they are married. I've been a fan of both of their various stuff for decades, I'm 46 now and have been of their music since I was 12 years old. I have 1 tattoo on my body and it's the Christian Death cross with cross-bones, so yeah, they're both great in my book. It's shocking how old they both look, it makes me feel old when I think about how I've been listening to them since they were young and I was really young
I think they look pretty good, all things considered. Lots of hard living over the years, and not to mention they're both in their 60's now. they look a lot better than most 60-somethings I know.
@@Brewzerr Especially with rigorous touring schedules and writing/recording albums like they did. I've played in touring bands that didn't do half the shit they did, so I know first hand how demanding it can be. You're right, considering what they've been thru, they look great. I was just saying that, at 46, it makes me feel old to see them now when I saw them when they were young and it's amazing how age creeps up on you. I still look about a young-looking 30 and they say your looks go before you know it
@@cthulhu6697 No, I know what you meant. I'm almost 55 so I know how quick things can change at this age. My friends tell me I still look good for my age but maybe they're just being nice. Either way I don't think about it too much. I'm just happy to still be alive. A lot of my friends didn't make it this far and a few others that have look like they're at least 20 years older than they actually are. Considering all the dumb crazy shit I did when I was young I'm just amazed to still wake up every day with all my faculties intact.
@@Brewzerr You're telling me, brother. Most of my real deal, best buddies that I've known forever are dead. I have been thru hell and back with all the dumbass shit I did. I've died 3 times on heroin, put myself into all kinds of the most dangerous situations I could, and so-on. Ironically, I became way more peaceful and logical when I graduated Mortuary School. I still get wasted on my favorite drugs, I still shoot and collect guns ( which I grew up with, so guns are part of my life. I come from a Marine Corps family ), and do assorted, dumb shit at times, but at least I'm on pain management now ( tho woefully under-medicated, so I sometimes do what I gotta do ;) ) and have Xanax for my panic disorder, so I'm pretty much, kinda stable. Best to you, my friend. It was my pleasure to make your acquaintance, sir
I'm in Atlanta, if I can do anything 5to do to help any of you, please let me know. I'm 50 and want to support my peeps. Gitane, I have regrets as well.
I love her attitude this comment is new and about our election it is looking pretty scary close I literally was looking into moving out of the country if trump won I'm only an hour from Canada but I'm going to try and do like her and not put that negativity out there it's a new concept for me but worth a shot
Message to Eric Blair: Do Not Censor, and especially not one of the greatest guitarists- song-writers of all time Rikk Agnew, or a Paphian like Gitane. How relieving to see a couple deeply in love in this era of hatred,celibacy, and shallowness.
I agree that art should be shocking at times, shake people out of their coma...but it should be for the purpose of having something to say. If not then it just for the purpose of offering people for cheap thrills.
Rozz Williams last show was .... Halloween night ?? Expo of the Extreme 10-31- 97....I was there at Dia de Los muertos/ punks not dead day...11-2-97 (in and out of Chicago....I had traveled on a bus from Laredo.....Conejo..25? hours straight shot..) never saw Rozz or Wesley Willis... hanging around mind you... Buzzoven, EYEHATEGOD, Soilent Green,the Mentors.... Murder Junkies and FANG....got Mortiss and his girl stoned at the hotel after party....which I hitched a ride on the FANG R.V.
I was a huge fan for years still love them all but as a totally Christian now I agree,never censor anything if your argument is that week you are wrong
I love the rozz Williams version of Christian death but atrocities is an excellent album almost every song bari bari mephisto walz fame played on it and wrote a couple songs
HI rikk and gitane! love you both! - glen in tucson... support these guys directly....its important not to ebay and discogs everything.... rikkagnewshit.bigcartel.com/ awesome shows from the quartet and agnew band! i was frying last time, so sorry bout that...but i had a blast! man you rule Eric, always appreciate your interviews, and work from way way back
I was lucky to see Rozz' solo live show at the Key Club with Penis Flytrap opening 6 months before he left this world. Rikk's guitar contributions to the best death rock album ever made. I never cared for Gitane's contributions to Christian Death tho. The whole R&B style singing was lame.
@@Media-gh9oj Funny that you edited your comment. Judgemental? I said "I knew they were baked" and they literally are baked, where's the negative in that and where on earth did you get the notion that I'm not a fan? I love the Agnews. Don't assume, it makes an ass out of u and me.
And yet they still look better than most other people their age.
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So let's all sit around and dis Valor's vision, in defense of someone who abandoned everyone at the circle of a noose? bad mouth, slander and bad mouth more ... meanwhile, you guys did barely anything in decades after? ... there was no need to attack someone else, it just makes you look worse than you already do ... contribute to make it more amazing or shut up maybe?
Cnea jnea awwwww🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Do some homework premature ejaculate..lmao Valor needed the name. He would be a homeless junkie w o C.D. Valor puts the Vegas in death rock.. he should be proud.
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@@arewethereyet5675 Valor did more than Rozz did , just put the bodies of work next to each other and compare, Valor needs fuck all from Rozz, who ran away from the band and name. You're the one who should check history ... stupid fuck. Rozz abandoned christian death while Valor, Gitane, David and the rest were in the middle of a tour in Europe, he just left them out to dry. He mentioned he left the band in interviews right here on youtube, straight from his own mouth, admits it, It was widely known that Rozz ran out of money and had a breakdown and called his mother to pay for a ticket, left them all in europe and went back home. Naturally those left in the band were not interested in having their futures as artists ruined because of a mentally unstable heroine addict who couldn't handle even making/performing music half the time, let alone life itself as it played out with his suicide in the end. So they continued with the tour in europe and the band released a greater body of work than Rozz did in the 30+ years of the bands history and yet we have these whiney little fanboys/girls crying that Rozz is Christian Death, what a joke, Rozz may have had a part in the beginning though when you look at substance, Valor has fleshed out Christian death in every way, he covered a far broader range of concepts than Rozz did in his short time ... Rozz grew to dislike Valor because of the fact that Valor took over Christian Death when Rozz abandoned the entire band mid-tour, the guy couldn't care less about the other people in the band, the money they all saved to go on tour, the money Valor saved to produce the 2 albums, or the fans for that matter. Valor picked up the pieces and made something better out of it, while Rozz went off and hung himself ... What I also find interesting is if you check the album credits for Ashes and Catastrophe Ballet, Valor did alot more than Rozz did, he produced the album and wrote music in almost all songs with Rozz doing Vocals, so you can't claim that Rozz is Christian Death, Valor was clearly more into it and still shows more dedication over the decades, Rozz didn't even care enough to Trademark the name(total abandonment), which is why he only ever released songs under the actual legal name "Christian Death featuring Rozz Williams" after realizing he fucked up and trying to get the name back, the courts ruled in Valor's favor as the individual who literally embodied Christian Death in all aspects, Rozz can't drop out mid-tour and say he wants nothing to do with it, then come in after greater success and slander, bitch and whine. The only people who are dumb enough to think he was the all of the band are a bunch of dirty goth drugheads who couldn't tell you what day of the week it was in those days, let alone understand a sequence of events, and who masturbate to the sound of a whimpering transvestite on a microphone ... there's your fucking homework, emo twat!
It's about quality over quantity. Only Theatre of Pain trumps everything Valor did combined. He made very few listenable records imo. He was such a corny try hard. I'll give him props for his work ethic but not for artistic vision. But if you dig him and his music brings you joy great! This is only my opinion not definitive truth.
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They did a bunch of things after Christian death where were you?
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Only Theatre of Pain (in my opinion) is one of the best albums of all time. An absolute masterpiece. Rikk Agnew is such a great and stylish guitarist from Adolescents to Christian Death
ABSOLUTELY
The albums with Rozz and Rikk in it are all fenomenal albums, I love Shadow Project and Daucus Karota too, everything Rozz did really. Love his artwork too, I'm regularly dipping in this book about Rozz, he was a very inspiring guy! A whole way of life, and always being creative in many different directions, a guy like that can keep you going, doing great stuff.
Gitane and Rikk, peace to you both! PS: I love to smoke weed too, it keeps me going since a 1000 yrs. Wouldn't wanna live without it! :) from NL
Yup, and Death Church. Rudimentary Peni
AGREED!
Rikk Agnew is the most influential guitarist in my life and my band.
Rikk Agnew,Paul cripple(Reagan youth) ,the original guitarist for zero boys,bill close(freeZe),pig champ(P.I.),Adam seigal( faction) all these dudes are mad rippers
he co wrote and played on my fav. Album ''Only Theater of Pain''. And he's solo are good as well.
Legendary musicians, I’m an obsessed Christian Death fan since a kid.🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼💋💋💋
Me to, bro, me to
Been a fan since 1983 I've meet Gitain a fair few times over the years upto 1993
These two were definitely meant for each other and they both look and sound fantastic!
I met Rozz twice and Gitane once at White Slug in Long Beach- she had her new baby with her. Strange, but nobody else was there. They were all so nice and gracious for us nerdy teens. Especially Rozz.
What a beautiful interview ❤️
Looks like it could be Norman reidusses pops.
Totally....ty Eric Blair....
Yes Gitane.....
No negativity.....
All roads lead 2 NOW☺😉
I love how she has kept her look going on after all these years
I havent seen her in quite a while and had no idea these two were together. Nothing could be more awesome than this.
I was fortunate to host them at my Airbnb in Oakland.
They are legends, my son already knows this ...
I always loved Gitane's work
Most wholesome and humble couple ever, awesome peeps.
Huge fan of them both and their legacy. it was awesome to watch this.
Agnew has a stratospheric sound and tone that really set a standard for the "death-rock" sound, guitar-wise I think. Octaves and a reverb set on 11 is all you need after all. Amazing and unusual for the time. I first heard about them in about 1986 hanging out with a couple of death-rock chicks in my HS parking lot and our morning "smoking club". Cigarettes. Not weed.
Genuinely! So much of deathrock is just a nod to the Rikk Agnew guitar sound - Christian Death championed the standard of deathrock and goth to follow.
Gitane Demone is so sensual woman, an artist and one of the best female voice i've ever listen. Her gaze is full of poetry.
He sounds like a really down to earth person. I expected something different. What that is I don't know but, he's got a good attitude and doesn't trash people.
They are so interesting and such a great couple! I could listen to them talk for hours.
It would be awesome if Gitane put out a cookbook or something...
Agreed! She always look so great!
Yes!
She is Vegan now!!! =)
i would totally read that!
She's a fantastic cook. I can attest
She's beautiful s ever
Nice people. Goth bless you....
Great interview! I learned a lot about both of them. I can't believe they didn't meet back in the day!
yeh. they met 4-5 years ago becouse of rozz memorial celebrations.
she was married to Valor and had two children with him. that tells it all.
@@idontcareaboutyou7757 Yeah I was going to mention that.
@@spiritualcramp8000 I think she said they met at the record store she was working at.
This is so incredibly interesting! I had no idea they even KNEW each other, much less were life partners. At age 50! Glad they seem happy.
They're so cute together!
Sweet goth couple 💜 life goals
I wish them the best, they deserve it for being good people and for giving us the great music they did in their careers
Gitane Demone did a solo show in Las Vegas in 2000 that’s one of best performances I’ve ever seen. She’s still a goddess.
Very lovely to see this, thank you. And my best wishes to Rick and Gitane who I was lucky enough to meet in London during the 'Church' video shoot. Xx
Love Gitane
I had NO idea these two were together ♡. How wholesome!!
Gitane lovely lady she rocks so did christian death roz such hottness
These two seem so enamored with one another. To know of each other for 30 years to finally fall in love is amazing. Good to see some good come from the Christian Death experience
These are good people.
Yes
Gitane & Rick the both of u r awesome Rozz Williams is the love of my life , just an awesome artist and Rick u were the best guitarist in Christian Death Gitane ur just completely awesome
I do not play guitar because of you, Rick, I'm trying to do "art" because of both of you ! Gitane &Rick, you rock !! Ilisten to your music every day since 40 years ... Ok Now it's time have more, please, give us more !!! You fu**** legends !!!
I've love CD since 85...growing older, it's so great seeing us all get old and these two finding each other!!!
I'm enamored seeing 2 artists I like so much together
Awesome to see true love these days
its frustrating that Rikk is censored. bummer
Yeah what is with the fucking censorship?
what an awesome interview
All cuts and licks from Rikk stirred the chaos for life🍻
Rikk always seems like a truly sweet dude.
Agnew's work on Only Theatre of Pain is just amazing. The tone, atmosphere, etc. That's actually the only stuff of his I've ever listened to. Never checked out Adolescents.
Try Balboa Fun Zone.
Im the opposite. Love Adolescents blue album. Never dabbled in Christian Death.
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I'm really happy to see these tow together and even better, their world view (semi-collectively). It's great to see the death rockers I grew up with grow into the future.
Such a great interview and I love them together. Both amazing artists and beautiful souls they are an adorable and very cool couple. 💗✨
I love them.
Awesomeness....good insight
I met Rozz at a record store in Utah in Oct 1992 or 93 before a one off show he did with a new band he had. The show was awesome too.
Ecology and equality. Rikk and Gitane are the truth.
Wow! This is amazing. I loved the Agnew Bros,
Nice interview!!!
Ledgens & inspiration! Both of them.
I love these two. A++++++
Big❤
Now i see... She is an angel all of the time.
yoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, there was a whole documentary about Rozz here on youtube where is it! deleted?? cant find it anymore!! it was like fanmade
"when I said I was clean and sober, I didn't mention anything about weed...LOVE YOU. RIKK AGNEW, and, of course, Gitanne.
He should have Eva O on the show, or Eric Clayton.
Rikk influenced damn near everyone in the genre. Still influential.
Had no idea they were together. Good for them.
Love is a wonderful thing cute couple
Rikk is a genius.
That's cool they are married. I've been a fan of both of their various stuff for decades, I'm 46 now and have been of their music since I was 12 years old. I have 1 tattoo on my body and it's the Christian Death cross with cross-bones, so yeah, they're both great in my book. It's shocking how old they both look, it makes me feel old when I think about how I've been listening to them since they were young and I was really young
Life on the road - great people!
I think they look pretty good, all things considered. Lots of hard living over the years, and not to mention they're both in their 60's now. they look a lot better than most 60-somethings I know.
@@Brewzerr Especially with rigorous touring schedules and writing/recording albums like they did. I've played in touring bands that didn't do half the shit they did, so I know first hand how demanding it can be. You're right, considering what they've been thru, they look great. I was just saying that, at 46, it makes me feel old to see them now when I saw them when they were young and it's amazing how age creeps up on you. I still look about a young-looking 30 and they say your looks go before you know it
@@cthulhu6697 No, I know what you meant. I'm almost 55 so I know how quick things can change at this age. My friends tell me I still look good for my age but maybe they're just being nice. Either way I don't think about it too much. I'm just happy to still be alive. A lot of my friends didn't make it this far and a few others that have look like they're at least 20 years older than they actually are. Considering all the dumb crazy shit I did when I was young I'm just amazed to still wake up every day with all my faculties intact.
@@Brewzerr You're telling me, brother. Most of my real deal, best buddies that I've known forever are dead. I have been thru hell and back with all the dumbass shit I did. I've died 3 times on heroin, put myself into all kinds of the most dangerous situations I could, and so-on. Ironically, I became way more peaceful and logical when I graduated Mortuary School. I still get wasted on my favorite drugs, I still shoot and collect guns ( which I grew up with, so guns are part of my life. I come from a Marine Corps family ), and do assorted, dumb shit at times, but at least I'm on pain management now ( tho woefully under-medicated, so I sometimes do what I gotta do ;) ) and have Xanax for my panic disorder, so I'm pretty much, kinda stable. Best to you, my friend. It was my pleasure to make your acquaintance, sir
I'm in Atlanta, if I can do anything 5to do to help any of you, please let me know. I'm 50 and want to support my peeps. Gitane, I have regrets as well.
Rikk is music and creativity
Yes.
I wish I could find kind love. 🤘🏻🎱
the man resembled a damn vampire when he was in CD
Would love to hear what these 2 could come up with musically together
I love her attitude this comment is new and about our election it is looking pretty scary close I literally was looking into moving out of the country if trump won I'm only an hour from Canada but I'm going to try and do like her and not put that negativity out there it's a new concept for me but worth a shot
Rikk is punk rock in mind too. very good
Rick getting some nice jazz!!!
rikk is pretty chill. whats up with the Compton hat? I suppose he likes hip hop?
Message to Eric Blair: Do Not Censor, and especially not one of the greatest guitarists- song-writers of all time Rikk Agnew, or a Paphian like Gitane. How relieving to see a couple deeply in love in this era of hatred,celibacy, and shallowness.
last question : what about doing some Art with Eva O ? What not ? Anymore ?
why not ? *
@@loxxvi6442 because she sucks
@@idontcareaboutyou7757 Amen
I agree that art should be shocking at times, shake people out of their coma...but it should be for the purpose of having something to say. If not then it just for the purpose of offering people for cheap thrills.
Rozz Williams last show was .... Halloween night ?? Expo of the Extreme 10-31- 97....I was there at Dia de Los muertos/ punks not dead day...11-2-97 (in and out of Chicago....I had traveled on a bus from Laredo.....Conejo..25? hours straight shot..) never saw Rozz or Wesley Willis... hanging around mind you... Buzzoven, EYEHATEGOD, Soilent Green,the Mentors.... Murder Junkies and FANG....got Mortiss and his girl stoned at the hotel after party....which I hitched a ride on the FANG R.V.
Flowers
DeMone...wasn't that the name of the awesome smarmy creep in Fast Times at Ridgemont High?
@24:11 🎯👏😊💕
I was a huge fan for years still love them all but as a totally Christian now I agree,never censor anything if your argument is that week you are wrong
Valor was great for one great album. After that, 'Christian Death' was DOA.
What about hurt hawks
💯
I love the rozz Williams version of Christian death but atrocities is an excellent album almost every song bari bari mephisto walz fame played on it and wrote a couple songs
I scored Rikk Agnew's backyard on cassette outta the bargin bin for a buck....the late 90s
No Roz Williams, no Christian Death.
Rozz Williams and second. It is still a living entity
@@Saber808 fair enough.
Rand al'Thor how I see it as well 👌🏼
History says otherwise
@@matthewgarcia5086 well... We all know how flawed history can be.
We're all getting old, lol...it's alright!
The Melodyland reference made me laugh. My family went to church there for many years, until the schism.
Always wondered why rikk Agnew was so NWAed out in this interview lol
HI rikk and gitane! love you both! - glen in tucson... support these guys directly....its important not to ebay and discogs everything....
rikkagnewshit.bigcartel.com/
awesome shows from the quartet and agnew band! i was frying last time, so sorry bout that...but i had a blast! man you rule Eric, always appreciate your interviews, and work from way way back
I was lucky to see Rozz' solo live show at the Key Club with Penis Flytrap opening 6 months before he left this world. Rikk's guitar contributions to the best death rock album ever made. I never cared for Gitane's contributions to Christian Death tho. The whole R&B style singing was lame.
Looks funny in his Compton cap🤣😂
Nothing against Gitane but anything after Only Theatre Of Pain just doesn’t add up. To me it ended after that.
same here rikk i got all my teeth out trying to conquer my gag reflex so i can get dentures you two are fucking awesome
You are like me and my honey.
Gitane the Christian Death was going right wing and you left?
That sounds about right.
Knew it! They always seemed baked, lol.
They are world known, great musicians and honest people. Love them!
@@Media-gh9oj Funny that you edited your comment. Judgemental? I said "I knew they were baked" and they literally are baked, where's the negative in that and where on earth did you get the notion that I'm not a fan? I love the Agnews. Don't assume, it makes an ass out of u and me.
Agnew, Just a Cop Killer Living in The City of Compton!
Why in the world is some niche subcultural interview mimicking Hard Copy-style sensationalism? barf
Be gone you TRUMPANZEE!! Ok then......, I'm through. 🙈🙉🙊
22 years of methamphetamine,,,,, lol. but no regrets ay
isn't that sweet? two self destroy masters still fighting for love after all this time. it looks so nice
And yet they still look better than most other people their age.
So let's all sit around and dis Valor's vision, in defense of someone who abandoned everyone at the circle of a noose? bad mouth, slander and bad mouth more ... meanwhile, you guys did barely anything in decades after? ... there was no need to attack someone else, it just makes you look worse than you already do ... contribute to make it more amazing or shut up maybe?
Cnea jnea awwwww🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Do some homework premature ejaculate..lmao Valor needed the name. He would be a homeless junkie w o C.D. Valor puts the Vegas in death rock.. he should be proud.
@@arewethereyet5675 Valor did more than Rozz did , just put the bodies of work next to each other and compare, Valor needs fuck all from Rozz, who ran away from the band and name. You're the one who should check history ... stupid fuck. Rozz abandoned christian death while Valor, Gitane, David and the rest were in the middle of a tour in Europe, he just left them out to dry. He mentioned he left the band in interviews right here on youtube, straight from his own mouth, admits it, It was widely known that Rozz ran out of money and had a breakdown and called his mother to pay for a ticket, left them all in europe and went back home. Naturally those left in the band were not interested in having their futures as artists ruined because of a mentally unstable heroine addict who couldn't handle even making/performing music half the time, let alone life itself as it played out with his suicide in the end. So they continued with the tour in europe and the band released a greater body of work than Rozz did in the 30+ years of the bands history and yet we have these whiney little fanboys/girls crying that Rozz is Christian Death, what a joke, Rozz may have had a part in the beginning though when you look at substance, Valor has fleshed out Christian death in every way, he covered a far broader range of concepts than Rozz did in his short time ... Rozz grew to dislike Valor because of the fact that Valor took over Christian Death when Rozz abandoned the entire band mid-tour, the guy couldn't care less about the other people in the band, the money they all saved to go on tour, the money Valor saved to produce the 2 albums, or the fans for that matter. Valor picked up the pieces and made something better out of it, while Rozz went off and hung himself ... What I also find interesting is if you check the album credits for Ashes and Catastrophe Ballet, Valor did alot more than Rozz did, he produced the album and wrote music in almost all songs with Rozz doing Vocals, so you can't claim that Rozz is Christian Death, Valor was clearly more into it and still shows more dedication over the decades, Rozz didn't even care enough to Trademark the name(total abandonment), which is why he only ever released songs under the actual legal name "Christian Death featuring Rozz Williams" after realizing he fucked up and trying to get the name back, the courts ruled in Valor's favor as the individual who literally embodied Christian Death in all aspects, Rozz can't drop out mid-tour and say he wants nothing to do with it, then come in after greater success and slander, bitch and whine. The only people who are dumb enough to think he was the all of the band are a bunch of dirty goth drugheads who couldn't tell you what day of the week it was in those days, let alone understand a sequence of events, and who masturbate to the sound of a whimpering transvestite on a microphone ... there's your fucking homework, emo twat!
two bads don't make one right.
It's about quality over quantity. Only Theatre of Pain trumps everything Valor did combined. He made very few listenable records imo. He was such a corny try hard. I'll give him props for his work ethic but not for artistic vision. But if you dig him and his music brings you joy great! This is only my opinion not definitive truth.
They did a bunch of things after Christian death where were you?