Freshwater Fishing Cape Cod- Jim Halpin you are correct I just remembered they were bought out by Winnebago this past year. I hope they don’t mess it up.
@@TheHungryCubanAdventures Perhaps you could add this update in the "about this video" info. At one point you (or someone) mention that Newmar & another company are family-owned & responsive, as opposed to Winnebago being a large company; this buyout may affect that important point.
They need someone who lives in a wheelchair day in and day out to help them design these coaches and rvs. Not all handicap individuals live with another person. They like their independence. These coaches were not for those independent people.
My hope is that they will see a more realistic "entry level" in a smaller length, options for driver and passenger seating, maybe on a Class C platform or even Class B.
The developers still have a lot to learn about making a RV truly accessible. I suggest they spend some time in a chair as a paraplegic (unable to get out of the chair on their own).
I’ve always wanted a law that said if a manufacturer was going to be making wheelchair accessible product then they need to be inspected by someone who is wheelchair bound. Idk how many times I’ve been in a place where I couldn’t use the bathrooms when all that was needed was the door to be hinged in the opposite side so the wall wouldn’t be in the way. 🤦🏻♀️ It’s awesome Simone has an understanding of it. I wish I could get me one. Lol.
This is the first time I've even thought about an RV being wheelchair accessible. Hopefully your vlog will bring this to the forefront in more RVs being designed to help our friends who would need the option in having this. 👍
In our family our really tall son is who we need the accomadations for. He can't move at all or use the toilet, the sink, stove, oven, or drive. Plus we have 3 other kids besides our son. So we are 6 total. Our son is a veteran. Traveling by plane seems to be impossible so we are hoping for an RV for family travel especially now with the Corona Virus
Hey! Pretty good knowledge, so far as standing people go! 😉 My only nitpick is that our ‘chairs-especially manuals-aren’t rated for car crashes, so while it would be good to have tie-downs, it really is safer on long voyages to transfer into a car seat if possible. But the rest of your points are spot-on!
I’m a full time wheelchair user and would love to get an RV, but can’t afford $200k plus for one and I don’t want to drive a big class A. I would like a small class C or even a class B that I can use as my daily driver. Most of my medical appointments are over 200 miles round trip with one being over 430 miles round trip. And, I have places I would like to see without worrying if the accessible hotel room I reserved is wheelchair accessible (you would be surprised how many aren’t) or if the hotel gave the accessible room to someone else. Not to mention that a lot of hotels put the accessible rooms on the upper floors and have no plan on how to get wheelchair users down in the case of a fire, tornado or earthquake. I’m looking at something like Kirk Williams has done, but I’m more concerned with a bathroom than I am a kitchen. You can see his van at @impact.overland on Instagram.
Dan. I hope things will work out and you get the van or RV you need. I just followe Kirk on Instagram. I love to travel and I hope we can come up with something comfortable for wheel chair assessable folks like you.
Thank you for this great video, I would suggest these companies to work, hire actual wheelchair users. I as a spinal tumor wheelchair user see many areas which would not work or better design layout, some of the showers were too small... Thank you for this informative material
@@TheHungryCubanAdventures I agree and theres a company called hy-line enterprises who makes a travel trailer -HARBOR VIEW. We just need more people to fix the lifts on the rvs.
Thanks for the video but it’s going to make a lot of folks in wheelchairs realize how out of touch this industry is with our needs. And then the pricing is just not realistic for a young or even middle aged paraplegic unless they have $100-$200k available for an RV. These are very discouraging realities for us disabled folks to be honest. But, hopefully, this video will make more companies actually hire a handicapped person to help them in their design. I’m available if they ever need a real opinion. And if you are in a chair please keep your spirits and mood up- the “out of touch” nature of the industry really saddened me. Thanks to this channel for exposing it.
We are just heading into the possibility of purchasing a travel trailer or RV that is wheelchair accessible. We found a company in Pennsylvania that will build a travel trailer to your specs: North American Wheelchair Accessible RV (www.narvct.com). Terry J. Hiser is the president/owner of the company and he spoke with us when we called. This would allow us to get exactly what we wanted in a travel trailer.
Thanks Karen, Im over 40 yrs in wheelchair as T-10 Para... and using my 3rdm self-modified (functional, of course a bit clumsy, not handsome contractor van) for short camping, and for a variety of events. Thanks for resource - all the Best !!
It amazes me that expensive motor vehicles are so far behind the times in failing to adopt principles of Universal Design! Designs that work for "disabled" users often work (or at least work *better*) for users who are female, older, shorter, younger, heavier, less strong, &/or less flexible than the standard-young-adult-male default. C'mon manufacturers, exercise some thought & creativity & earn those tens & hundreds of thousands of dollars!
I hope this video will get things moving towards more manufacturers creating vehicles for theses individuals. Thank you for your thoughts and for watching.
Thank you for the almost side-by-side comparison. Agree, the Newmar shower looks much more user friendly and less water risk with the several water outlets.
I’m about 20 seconds into the video and I can already tell you it’s not wheelchair accessible at all. Very unfortunate. Hopefully we can see some better developments soon.
I have the Newmar. I am a T4 paraplegic and love everything about the Newmar except the height of the bed...way too high to transfer. I have to have help to get in bed but all the rest I can do my self. I can use the hide-a-bed on my own. Transferring to driver seat is difficult. Transfer to passenger seat is easy. Having tie down for wheelchair would only be good for short distance. You would not like having to ride in wheelchair long distance so taking out seat is not a great idea.
I am not in a wheelchair but everything about accessible units except for the lift are great for older people or people with injuries or back/knee pain etc. My father needs grab rails. A strong shower seat. Not to have to turn sideways to get into bed, etc. I’d love to see the ventana expanded a couple feet and a rear bath become the norm. A XL shower on one side with a real 350-400 lb seat built in, a thin double sink against back wall, and a shower facing toilet with grab rails on 3 sides. This would allow transfers much more easily. Also a ceiling lift from bed to bathroom could be added. I’d also personally for my father love the current ventana layout with a removable desk in front of current lift. If he needs it someday it’s in there. Until then it’s useful.
The question I have about these regards emptying the tanks. How easy is it for someone in a wheelchair to dump the tanks? Without making a mess of one's self?
I think production wise they should just make every rv with enough clearance space for a wheelchair and make everything accessible because it doesn't seem as if the layouts are much different than the hight of things and I'm sure people wouldn't notice it if it was built to a wheelchair users standard, and then the only thing that would need to be optional is the actual wheelchair lift .I mean it would save costs of production and would make every model accessible.
Looking for a completely wheelchair accessible open floorplan travel trailer ( only travel trailers) . Anyone got any ideas? I've been looking at some toy haulers, the ramps seem way too steep
Nice - a bit pricey - but as one other subscriber mentioned need shower chair for a 300 plus pound person and room for a wide chair to move around. Don’t need counters to be low as there will always be someone with the wheelchair person. The shower and toilet are the main concerns as well as room in bedroom for wheelchair.
Winnebago is no go stove too high shower no one get in it when in wheelchair with no seat sit on how pose reach the hot & cold water turn on i drive my self i slide out chair drive with one leg even
These companies are just so stupid. All they have to do is hire a CASp architect (Certified Accessibily Specialist) to help them design a floor plan to be wheelchair accessible. No matter how accessible the design it will always be difficult for quadriplegics in electric wheelchairs that can't independently transfer. They need attendant assistance 24/7 anyway. For paraplegics you can design something that would completely work with no problem for complete independence for an individual. Quads will always require assistance on and off of toilets, bed, shower, operating the lift but even so...an electric swivel drivers seat and hand controls can allow some quads to transfer into the drivers seat and drive with limited arm and hand function. A vehicle mobility specialist also needs to be consulted in the design processes. An rv that works for a para won't work for a quad and a para doesn't need features that a quad needs. Mobility Works is a good national vehicle adaptation firm that does lifts, hand controls, driving systems for quads, electric swivel seats etc...everything that would be needed. RV manufacturers just need to stop being stupid and consult with and design with professionals that have the expertise and do exactly this for a living.
What "old story"? What an ignorant thing to say. For 43 years I use a wheelchair and have been flyfishing from a kayak all over the west California, Alaska, Oregon, Idaho, Montana and currently have an awd GMC Savana cargo van...no lift. So you don't know what you are talking about.
Winnebago now owns Newmar.
Freshwater Fishing Cape Cod- Jim Halpin you are correct I just remembered they were bought out by Winnebago this past year. I hope they don’t mess it up.
@@TheHungryCubanAdventures Perhaps you could add this update in the "about this video" info. At one point you (or someone) mention that Newmar & another company are family-owned & responsive, as opposed to Winnebago being a large company; this buyout may affect that important point.
Good point. I will pin this comment at the top of the feed and that should take care of the misunderstanding. Thank you.
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Exactly, I've yet to find an wheelchair accessible rv or van that is truly for a wheelchair user!
They need someone who lives in a wheelchair day in and day out to help them design these coaches and rvs. Not all handicap individuals live with another person. They like their independence. These coaches were not for those independent people.
Shannon Roberts I agree Shannon. I hope the word gets out to the manufactures of the need for these units.
My hope is that they will see a more realistic "entry level" in a smaller length, options for driver and passenger seating, maybe on a Class C platform or even Class B.
The developers still have a lot to learn about making a RV truly accessible. I suggest they spend some time in a chair as a paraplegic (unable to get out of the chair on their own).
I agree
Great info and a great topic - I do not think I've seen many other videos on this subject.
Grateful Glamper thank you guys. I was hoping to be able to put a face on a much needed coach for those that need it.
I'm a wheelchair user, I appreciate your video, thank you friend
You are very welcome. Hope it helped you. 👍
The lady in this video is sooooo on point. I want to know what she actually bought.
I’ve always wanted a law that said if a manufacturer was going to be making wheelchair accessible product then they need to be inspected by someone who is wheelchair bound. Idk how many times I’ve been in a place where I couldn’t use the bathrooms when all that was needed was the door to be hinged in the opposite side so the wall wouldn’t be in the way. 🤦🏻♀️
It’s awesome Simone has an understanding of it. I wish I could get me one. Lol.
All very good points. We can only hope changes will come.
*SO TRUE!*
Dinosoar lift. About 20 year old design. What needed is a lightweight, foldaway lift - no one that looks like a apartment sized extension.
This is the first time I've even thought about an RV being wheelchair accessible. Hopefully your vlog will bring this to the forefront in more RVs being designed to help our friends who would need the option in having this. 👍
Dazzling Dee thank you we hope so.
In our family our really tall son is who we need the accomadations for. He can't move at all or use the toilet, the sink, stove, oven, or drive. Plus we have 3 other kids besides our son. So we are 6 total. Our son is a veteran. Traveling by plane seems to be impossible so we are hoping for an RV for family travel especially now with the Corona Virus
Hey! Pretty good knowledge, so far as standing people go! 😉 My only nitpick is that our ‘chairs-especially manuals-aren’t rated for car crashes, so while it would be good to have tie-downs, it really is safer on long voyages to transfer into a car seat if possible. But the rest of your points are spot-on!
Very good point.
I’m a full time wheelchair user and would love to get an RV, but can’t afford $200k plus for one and I don’t want to drive a big class A. I would like a small class C or even a class B that I can use as my daily driver. Most of my medical appointments are over 200 miles round trip with one being over 430 miles round trip. And, I have places I would like to see without worrying if the accessible hotel room I reserved is wheelchair accessible (you would be surprised how many aren’t) or if the hotel gave the accessible room to someone else. Not to mention that a lot of hotels put the accessible rooms on the upper floors and have no plan on how to get wheelchair users down in the case of a fire, tornado or earthquake. I’m looking at something like Kirk Williams has done, but I’m more concerned with a bathroom than I am a kitchen. You can see his van at @impact.overland on Instagram.
Dan. I hope things will work out and you get the van or RV you need. I just followe Kirk on Instagram. I love to travel and I hope we can come up with something comfortable for wheel chair assessable folks like you.
My husband is in a wheelchair and we want to travel, thanks for reviewing these it's helpful!
Glad it helped
I really hope manufacturers start focusing more on this. Great video, and topic Juan & Mary. Thanks for sharing!
Dean Webster thanks Dean. We hope the manufactures realize the need that is out there for wheel chair accessible rigs. 👍
Thank you for this great video, I would suggest these companies to work, hire actual wheelchair users. I as a spinal tumor wheelchair user see many areas which would not work or better design layout, some of the showers were too small...
Thank you for this informative material
You are welcome and yes that would be a great idea. Hire folks that would actually be using the unit. 👍
You are so right about the issues
They need to design more that handicap ready or they can be ordered handicap ready. Thank you for sharing.
I totally agree with you.
@@TheHungryCubanAdventures I agree and theres a company called hy-line enterprises who makes a travel trailer -HARBOR VIEW. We just need more people to fix the lifts on the rvs.
Thanks for sharing I will look them up.
👍🏻
Thanks for the video but it’s going to make a lot of folks in wheelchairs realize how out of touch this industry is with our needs. And then the pricing is just not realistic for a young or even middle aged paraplegic unless they have $100-$200k available for an RV. These are very discouraging realities for us disabled folks to be honest. But, hopefully, this video will make more companies actually hire a handicapped person to help them in their design. I’m available if they ever need a real opinion. And if you are in a chair please keep your spirits and mood up- the “out of touch” nature of the industry really saddened me. Thanks to this channel for exposing it.
Thank you Myiggie fir sharing your thoughts. We also hope the industry will come around. God bless
We are just heading into the possibility of purchasing a travel trailer or RV that is wheelchair accessible. We found a company in Pennsylvania that will build a travel trailer to your specs: North American Wheelchair Accessible RV (www.narvct.com). Terry J. Hiser is the president/owner of the company and he spoke with us when we called. This would allow us to get exactly what we wanted in a travel trailer.
Thanks Karen, Im over 40 yrs in wheelchair as T-10 Para... and using my 3rdm self-modified (functional, of course a bit clumsy, not handsome contractor van) for short camping, and for a variety of events. Thanks for resource - all the Best !!
It amazes me that expensive motor vehicles are so far behind the times in failing to adopt principles of Universal Design! Designs that work for "disabled" users often work (or at least work *better*) for users who are female, older, shorter, younger, heavier, less strong, &/or less flexible than the standard-young-adult-male default. C'mon manufacturers, exercise some thought & creativity & earn those tens & hundreds of thousands of dollars!
I hope this video will get things moving towards more manufacturers creating vehicles for theses individuals. Thank you for your thoughts and for watching.
Thank you for the almost side-by-side comparison. Agree, the Newmar shower looks much more user friendly and less water risk with the several water outlets.
You are welcome. We tried comparing them as best as we could. Newmar is definitely a better products
I’m about 20 seconds into the video and I can already tell you it’s not wheelchair accessible at all. Very unfortunate. Hopefully we can see some better developments soon.
I agree with you. The Newmarket towards the end of the video is a very good layout fir wheel chair accessibility
What is the name/model of the last van? I loved it
I don’t not remember the model but check on the Newmar website.
@@TheHungryCubanAdventures thank you! 👍
I have the Newmar. I am a T4 paraplegic and love everything about the Newmar except the height of the bed...way too high to transfer. I have to have help to get in bed but all the rest I can do my self. I can use the hide-a-bed on my own. Transferring to driver seat is difficult. Transfer to passenger seat is easy. Having tie down for wheelchair would only be good for short distance. You would not like having to ride in wheelchair long distance so taking out seat is not a great idea.
Glad you found Newmar and it is working for you.
I am not in a wheelchair but everything about accessible units except for the lift are great for older people or people with injuries or back/knee pain etc. My father needs grab rails. A strong shower seat. Not to have to turn sideways to get into bed, etc.
I’d love to see the ventana expanded a couple feet and a rear bath become the norm. A XL shower on one side with a real 350-400 lb seat built in, a thin double sink against back wall, and a shower facing toilet with grab rails on 3 sides. This would allow transfers much more easily. Also a ceiling lift from bed to bathroom could be added.
I’d also personally for my father love the current ventana layout with a removable desk in front of current lift. If he needs it someday it’s in there. Until then it’s useful.
Alicia Ryann thank you for sharing your thoughts. Those are all great ideas and I hope that Newmar is reading these comments.
The question I have about these regards emptying the tanks. How easy is it for someone in a wheelchair to dump the tanks? Without making a mess of one's self?
Great question Steve. The couple that I interviewed in this video, the wife was going to drive and do all that type of work.
Winnabago designs are terrible at least some thought went into the Newmar
I agree
Thank you for caption
You are welcome
Well I may look for a used Newmar
I think production wise they should just make every rv with enough clearance space for a wheelchair and make everything accessible because it doesn't seem as if the layouts are much different than the hight of things and I'm sure people wouldn't notice it if it was built to a wheelchair users standard, and then the only thing that would need to be optional is the actual wheelchair lift .I mean it would save costs of production and would make every model accessible.
Makes sense. From your mouth to corporates ears. 👍
Looking for a completely wheelchair accessible open floorplan travel trailer ( only travel trailers) . Anyone got any ideas? I've been looking at some toy haulers, the ramps seem way too steep
Can get a rv with hand controls if you have no legs?
Sorry I am not sure about that. I would assume you could get a custom van RV conversion to suit your needs.
The last one was the best, the other ones very disappointing
Yes we agree also
Nice - a bit pricey - but as one other subscriber mentioned need shower chair for a 300 plus pound person and room for a wide chair to move around. Don’t need counters to be low as there will always be someone with the wheelchair person. The shower and toilet are the main concerns as well as room in bedroom for wheelchair.
Thank you for watching and your input. 👍
Wrong. Not everyone that uses a wheelchair has a spouse or family member to assist them.
Are there tie downs
Kim to be honest I do not know or remember. I would awesome so.
What are your thoughts on these manufactures and should other manufactures get into this space???
HI GUYS
Winnebago is no go stove too high shower no one get in it when in wheelchair with no seat sit on how pose reach the hot & cold water turn on i drive my self i slide out chair drive with one leg even
We were not impressed with any of Winnebagos Wheelchair accessible rigs.
being handicapped how do you afford them?
These companies are just so stupid. All they have to do is hire a CASp architect (Certified Accessibily Specialist) to help them design a floor plan to be wheelchair accessible. No matter how accessible the design it will always be difficult for quadriplegics in electric wheelchairs that can't independently transfer. They need attendant assistance 24/7 anyway. For paraplegics you can design something that would completely work with no problem for complete independence for an individual. Quads will always require assistance on and off of toilets, bed, shower, operating the lift but even so...an electric swivel drivers seat and hand controls can allow some quads to transfer into the drivers seat and drive with limited arm and hand function. A vehicle mobility specialist also needs to be consulted in the design processes. An rv that works for a para won't work for a quad and a para doesn't need features that a quad needs. Mobility Works is a good national vehicle adaptation firm that does lifts, hand controls, driving systems for quads, electric swivel seats etc...everything that would be needed. RV manufacturers just need to stop being stupid and consult with and design with professionals that have the expertise and do exactly this for a living.
i totally agree with you
Disabled people or even better people who are disabled! Not handicap!! We are people first!
The old story-camping is for walking. Or suffer.
What "old story"? What an ignorant thing to say. For 43 years I use a wheelchair and have been flyfishing from a kayak all over the west California, Alaska, Oregon, Idaho, Montana and currently have an awd GMC Savana cargo van...no lift. So you don't know what you are talking about.