I first thought that your Porsche is a Plug-in Electric Hybrid when I read the title! I own one of these battery tenders, too. They are very handy to have around, especially once your 12 volt lead acid battery starts to age.
There is a proper battery charging connector under dashboard on passenger side. Also Porsche recommends you do not fit directly to negative pole on battery
Tell me about it. Had to add a tender to my truck as I've not been driving it much due to covid. Haven't had to worry about additives the chg up the formula of gas in Canada for the winter and winter gas helps prevent moisture. I still make sure to run it once in a while for the seals though.
I also have a CTEK charger conditioner. Although my battery is only one year old, the temperatures get extremely cold where I live and it has a deleterious effect on the battery without the CTEK. Can't wait to get back to the warm weather. Take care.
In these early days of the Automotive EV Revolution, newer I.C.E. powered cars require much more electrical energy to operate the associated on board electronics. So the irony of "plugging in" an I.C.E. car to keep its battery charged is outright laughable. Don't get me wrong, I spent years as a "trained" Porsche Tech and even got to be a guest pit crew member for Peter Revson. I LOVE Porsches and have owned several myself including a ground up restoration of a 356 Coupe (that my "buddy" TOTALED just hours after completion). At 74, let me say - keep having FUN ! ! Thanks.
You can also buy a convenient charger from CTEK so you can use your 12V cigarette socket inside the car. easier than opening the boot and installing this.
I’m so glad that you didn’t have to go to the dealership to do some BS reset, because they might’ve charged you. It was good engineering the way that you wouldn’t be able to loose your battery terminal’s nuts or bolts, it just makes doing anything yourself much more difficult.
Connecting the charger to both poles of the battery is absolute correct. The sticker on the battery tells you to do not connect the black minus clamp to the minus pole at the battery at jumpstarting the car. That also only applies to the car beeing started = having the weak battery. The reason is that at jumpstarting the weak battery has 8-10 V and is connected to the running car having 13.6 V. So the weak battery is charging very fast causing explosive gases to build up. After disconnecting the jumpcable sparks will occur which potentially can lead to an explosion or fire. Especially in gas powered cars you don’t want that (Diesel can’t ignite so easily). If the black minus clamp is connected to the engine or some other metal part 50cm / 20“ from the battery it is much safer disconnecting it when you disconnect that clamp first.
@@f3rrar1s No. On the dead car connect the black cable to an earth (engine) instead of the battery. ( the whole car is earth/ground/minus. ) After jumpstart disconnect this cable first. Therefore sparks occur further away from the battery.
Like you, I discovered the 5 min job turned in to half an hour. What I have done subsequently is to leave the original nuts in place, and use a thin nut on each terminal, there is just enough room on the existing bolt to get the C-Tek adapter on with a thin nut. It would seem all VW Group cars are like that now. :-(
Don't know about the car trickle chargers, but the bike chargers just wreck the battery. I only ever use my trickle charger when i need to boost the battery then disconnect it
When you do things on your car alone, I would recommend a OBD Diagnostic tool like Carly Scanner+ for example. Not expensive and saves often the trip to a dealer just for an Error Code.
I had an issue with an early Mitsubishi Evo, changed the battery and nothing worked after! Nothing. Long Story short, the dealer had to re-programme the ECU and have since fitted small lithium batteries to the "Black Box" to keep the memory alive when there's no battery! Lovely car by the way, the shine is really something special👍
@@eSysmanTech The recovery truck driver told me that a memo went out to all recovery drivers about it. Apparently they have a sort of electronic notice board alerting the companies to things like this as they become apparent! I believe there are quite a few cars where removing the battery incorrectly will result in a trip to the dealer🤔
My condolences on Englands loss to Italy. While I am a big fan of both countries, I sympathize with those who tried so hard. Wishing you better fortune next season.
I bought a weather-sealed tender I could install the engine bay of my truck last month after losing my second battery in 2 years. I wasn't running it much due to covid. Now I should be able to just plug it in like I do with the block heater for winter. 😅
Many modern cars send error codes if the battery is disconnected for any reason. Some manuals have the sequence to reset the computer. The CETEK charger is good for supplying the 12 volts to the battery cables when replacing the old battery so the computer does not register a failure in power. Your manual should have instructions
I’m surprised topaz didn’t reattach your front number plate pretty poor service Re the battery nut and bolt change it for an Allen bolt no messing about
@@eSysmanTech I noticed your Porsche purist ways of not wanting to put a mouth guard on and ruining the beautiful smiles of a your road ladies. Being as ass man myself I think I’d rather have one on the front and keeping their beautiful rear ends bare. Why do I feel so dirty writing this? lol.
Most high end vehicles especially in a cold climate even if garage kept loose their battery amperage due to the constant internal monitoring of the vehicles systems. Between system monitoring & looking for key-fobs, apps to your phone, anti theft, etc it doesn’t take long to drain down the battery. Battery minders are great low cost trickle chargers that keep the battery up to full charge. Also like running out of fuel don’t forget to unplug before driving off. In Canada we also have to remember to unplug block-heaters in the winter for outside kept vehicles.🥶
OBD CAN BUS cars all have 2 direction sensors that are queried and respond and react if instructed. This is to allow for wear and tear (normal). #1 item on ALL CAN BUS cars is the Throttle body that is queried, responds, is instructed to full open and full close within a MILLISECOND of turning on the key. Cars will not start if this routine fails. The catch is "adaptive memory" which tracks the minor changes in full open and close, which change due to micron level abrasions. Unhook the battery without a "Memory Saver" plugged in and the car will start, but its adaptive memory will not match the throttle now. Lucky you a new car which reset itself after 3 stop starts and 26 miles of diving. The ECU was "satisfied" and warnings erased. AOK.
Why not buy a reader to clear some of these warnings? You seem to like tech? Does this car have the control box under the passenger seat like the 987? Amazingly dozy place for Porsche to put it considering potential water intrusion in that area if the rear sink holes get blocked up. But, looking at your two amazing cars, you probably go straight back to the Porsche dealer when these sensor cliches occur! Bloody fantastic cars both👍
Enjoyed your video as always. I want you to know something, I am not a car fanatic, I don't like sports cars of any kind, but I seem to learn something new every time, from both your UA-cam channels. I just want to support you in the only way that I can, by subscribing to both your UA-cam channels, as they are both greatly worthy of anyone's support. I'm sure you know this but I feel the need to state the obvious. You should reverse in your garage with the spyder, so your driving side doors for both cars will be in the middle of your garage. This will give you more room to open the doors to get in which ever car you want, and exit your garage. Curious; I don't understand the battery charging requirement on the Porsches batteries. Doesn't your car run on PETROL? If so, this is something new for me. I don't understand the purpose, for all my years owning a car, in North America. I've never had any issues with the life of the battery.
Hi, thanks for the comments. I have the battery charger cables because the cars are not used all of the time. My 911 gets very little use, so it stays on charge. Then remember I work away at sea for months at a time and my misses doesn’t drive them whilst I’m away. If I left them without a trickle charger they would be dead when I returned.
I'm a high functioning, low emissions, self charging, hard working & very economical ... Will you adopt me and give me the same TLC as you give your cars ? LOL .... Stay Safe !!
When I read the title... "plug in charger"... I thought of a Vortex Charger increasing horsse power by pushing in more air... I am a little bit disappointed now ;-)
"Even I can do it" 😂 Aren't you an engineer and an STO? I think you're more than qualified to hook up a trickle charger. In fact I know you are, I saw your electricity explanation when you guest starred on Tristan's channel. 😁Great vid! When are you back to sea?
That job went exactly how it would have gone for me. Should take ten minutes and turns in to half an hour and an engine light for no real reason, nothing is easy. I wonder why car manufacturers that build cars such as Porsche, Ferrari, etc...don't design a nicer plug receptacle for a charger. I watch a few different car channels and the charger plug hanging out seems like such an after thought but its a reality of owning multiple cars that are known to sit for longer than the average daily driver.
I know you're a busy man, do you own your home, have you thought about painting your garage walls? You have a proper display area and painted walls would highlight your collections.
Disconnect the battery and those corporate fascists come up with an 'engine warning light.' 🤬 All that probably in order to frustrate people from doing anything to their OWN flippin' car! #RightToRepair!
@@eSysmanTech Well, I'm pretty sure you've previously used the words "wife" and "she" but sure, your partner could be a man. No judgment here. But if you're thinking I somehow implied your partner doesn't, it's the opposite. I almost expect them to be equally passionate about theirs, be it quilting or racing motorcycles
I first thought that your Porsche is a Plug-in Electric Hybrid when I read the title! I own one of these battery tenders, too. They are very handy to have around, especially once your 12 volt lead acid battery starts to age.
The view from outside into the Garage looks really nice now with both cars in it. - Entertaining Video.
There is a proper battery charging connector under dashboard on passenger side. Also Porsche recommends you do not fit directly to negative pole on battery
Battery tenderers and fuel additives are needed on any car you do not drive often.
Tell me about it. Had to add a tender to my truck as I've not been driving it much due to covid. Haven't had to worry about additives the chg up the formula of gas in Canada for the winter and winter gas helps prevent moisture. I still make sure to run it once in a while for the seals though.
@@loganholmberg2295 Use Sta-bil for fuel and you can buy a tenderer from any auto parts store.
I also have a CTEK charger conditioner. Although my battery is only one year old, the temperatures get extremely cold where I live and it has a deleterious effect on the battery without the CTEK. Can't wait to get back to the warm weather. Take care.
Good job. Those CTek chargers are the total nutz.
In these early days of the Automotive EV Revolution, newer I.C.E. powered cars require much more electrical energy to operate the associated on board electronics. So the irony of "plugging in" an I.C.E. car to keep its battery charged is outright laughable. Don't get me wrong, I spent years as a "trained" Porsche Tech and even got to be a guest pit crew member for Peter Revson. I LOVE Porsches and have owned several myself including a ground up restoration of a 356 Coupe (that my "buddy" TOTALED just hours after completion). At 74, let me say - keep having FUN ! ! Thanks.
Canadian here looks like you play ice hockey!! Almost as cool as your 718. ;) Great channel, laid back and easy watching vids. Thnx and cheers
What a beautiful vehicle!! Thx for sharing.
You can also buy a convenient charger from CTEK so you can use your 12V cigarette socket inside the car. easier than opening the boot and installing this.
You can use the Ctek in the cigarette lighter, I do it in my spyder and gt3
Yeah I have that piece but I prefer to use them this way.
I’m so glad that you didn’t have to go to the dealership to do some BS reset, because they might’ve charged you. It was good engineering the way that you wouldn’t be able to loose your battery terminal’s nuts or bolts, it just makes doing anything yourself much more difficult.
Connecting the charger to both poles of the battery is absolute correct. The sticker on the battery tells you to do not connect the black minus clamp to the minus pole at the battery at jumpstarting the car. That also only applies to the car beeing started = having the weak battery. The reason is that at jumpstarting the weak battery has 8-10 V and is connected to the running car having 13.6 V. So the weak battery is charging very fast causing explosive gases to build up. After disconnecting the jumpcable sparks will occur which potentially can lead to an explosion or fire. Especially in gas powered cars you don’t want that (Diesel can’t ignite so easily). If the black minus clamp is connected to the engine or some other metal part 50cm / 20“ from the battery it is much safer disconnecting it when you disconnect that clamp first.
So are you saying before disconnecting the black clamp you should connect a second cable to it connected to an earth, then connect the charger cable?
@@f3rrar1s No. On the dead car connect the black cable to an earth (engine) instead of the battery. ( the whole car is earth/ground/minus. ) After jumpstart disconnect this cable first. Therefore sparks occur further away from the battery.
What a cool idea. Nice modification.
Like you, I discovered the 5 min job turned in to half an hour. What I have done subsequently is to leave the original nuts in place, and use a thin nut on each terminal, there is just enough room on the existing bolt to get the C-Tek adapter on with a thin nut. It would seem all VW Group cars are like that now. :-(
You can also just cut the negatives side connector like a C and then slide it in without removing the nut
Don't know about the car trickle chargers, but the bike chargers just wreck the battery. I only ever use my trickle charger when i need to boost the battery then disconnect it
You need to get a charger that has a float mode.
Get a decent charger......
When you do things on your car alone, I would recommend a OBD Diagnostic tool like Carly Scanner+ for example. Not expensive and saves often the trip to a dealer just for an Error Code.
I have a Durametric. Designed for Porsche cars.
I had an issue with an early Mitsubishi Evo, changed the battery and nothing worked after! Nothing. Long Story short, the dealer had to re-programme the ECU and have since fitted small lithium batteries to the "Black Box" to keep the memory alive when there's no battery!
Lovely car by the way, the shine is really something special👍
Wow that’s crazy.
@@eSysmanTech The recovery truck driver told me that a memo went out to all recovery drivers about it. Apparently they have a sort of electronic notice board alerting the companies to things like this as they become apparent! I believe there are quite a few cars where removing the battery incorrectly will result in a trip to the dealer🤔
My condolences on Englands loss to Italy. While I am a big fan of both countries, I sympathize with those who tried so hard. Wishing you better fortune next season.
Any classic 911 you would love to have?
I bought a weather-sealed tender I could install the engine bay of my truck last month after losing my second battery in 2 years. I wasn't running it much due to covid. Now I should be able to just plug it in like I do with the block heater for winter. 😅
Fascinating. Do you not get a rattle when driving hard though, leaving the cable hanging like that?
I wonder if this should come standard
I have a code reader to fix things like that. You can always pop round. Don’t know what you’ll do for crossing the ocean, but hey. Who knows🤔
I have one. Was just curious that it would do that just for disconnecting the battery.
Many modern cars send error codes if the battery is disconnected for any reason. Some manuals have the sequence to reset the computer. The CETEK charger is good for supplying the 12 volts to the battery cables when replacing the old battery so the computer does not register a failure in power. Your manual should have instructions
Excellent! 👌
I’m surprised topaz didn’t reattach your front number plate pretty poor service
Re the battery nut and bolt change it for an Allen bolt no messing about
The number plate was never attached and I asked them not to attach it.
@@eSysmanTech I noticed your Porsche purist ways of not wanting to put a mouth guard on and ruining the beautiful smiles of a your road ladies. Being as ass man myself I think I’d rather have one on the front and keeping their beautiful rear ends bare. Why do I feel so dirty writing this? lol.
Most high end vehicles especially in a cold climate even if garage kept loose their battery amperage due to the constant internal monitoring of the vehicles systems. Between system monitoring & looking for key-fobs, apps to your phone, anti theft, etc it doesn’t take long to drain down the battery. Battery minders are great low cost trickle chargers that keep the battery up to full charge. Also like running out of fuel don’t forget to unplug before driving off. In Canada we also have to remember to unplug block-heaters in the winter for outside kept vehicles.🥶
I’ve experienced the Newfoundland winter so I’m familiar with the block heaters!
OBD CAN BUS cars all have 2 direction sensors that are queried and respond and react if instructed. This is to allow for wear and tear (normal). #1 item on ALL CAN BUS cars is the Throttle body that is queried, responds, is instructed to full open and full close within a MILLISECOND of turning on the key. Cars will not start if this routine fails. The catch is "adaptive memory" which tracks the minor changes in full open and close, which change due to micron level abrasions. Unhook the battery without a "Memory Saver" plugged in and the car will start, but its adaptive memory will not match the throttle now. Lucky you a new car which reset itself after 3 stop starts and 26 miles of diving. The ECU was "satisfied" and warnings erased. AOK.
Love that car!
Stunning car 👍
Which car are you going to use the most now 2RS OR 718?
718 for sure. Love having the roof down.
Careful with the number plate in the front window, that puts you in a whole separate category of car owner…… (beautiful car by the way) 😀
Car was brand new and was just wrapped with PPF. Has a stick on number plate now.
We had similar problem. I replaced the battery on our Boxster ‘02 and had to put in a code to make the sound system work. Done deal……
Is that a lithium battery
It’s a 12 volt lead acid battery with high cranking amps for starting the engine.
@@mitchellbarnow1709 your kidding not lithium
Why not buy a reader to clear some of these warnings? You seem to like tech? Does this car have the control box under the passenger seat like the 987? Amazingly dozy place for Porsche to put it considering potential water intrusion in that area if the rear sink holes get blocked up. But, looking at your two amazing cars, you probably go straight back to the Porsche dealer when these sensor cliches occur! Bloody fantastic cars both👍
I have a Durametric. I was just curious why you’d get this message after just disconnecting the battery and if it would clear itself.
What's the difference vs plugging in the Porsche battery tender into one of your your 12v sockets? Seriously. Thanks
This is better as you can see the charge status.
🙌🏻
nice video good information
How much more time let take to those big car companies to start install lithium batteries on they new cars?, sorry for my english.
The BMW M3 (F80) came with a lithium (Li Po Fe) battery in 2015. they cost about 1000US to replace.
@@bobfognozzle Long time ago
On off on off 3 times. 👍😂
Enjoyed your video as always.
I want you to know something, I am not a car fanatic, I don't like sports cars of any kind, but I seem to learn something new every time, from both your UA-cam channels. I just want to support you in the only way that I can, by subscribing to both your UA-cam channels, as they are both greatly worthy of anyone's support.
I'm sure you know this but I feel the need to state the obvious.
You should reverse in your garage with the spyder, so your driving side doors for both cars will be in the middle of your garage. This will give you more room to open the doors to get in which ever car you want, and exit your garage.
Curious;
I don't understand the battery charging requirement on the Porsches batteries. Doesn't your car run on PETROL? If so, this is something new for me. I don't understand the purpose, for all my years owning a car, in North America.
I've never had any issues with the life of the battery.
Hi, thanks for the comments. I have the battery charger cables because the cars are not used all of the time. My 911 gets very little use, so it stays on charge. Then remember I work away at sea for months at a time and my misses doesn’t drive them whilst I’m away. If I left them without a trickle charger they would be dead when I returned.
@@eSysmanTech Thanks, I didn't realize, see I learn something new every time.
I'm a high functioning, low emissions, self charging, hard working & very economical ... Will you adopt me and give me the same TLC as you give your cars ? LOL .... Stay Safe !!
When I read the title... "plug in charger"... I thought of a Vortex Charger increasing horsse power by pushing in more air... I am a little bit disappointed now ;-)
"Even I can do it" 😂 Aren't you an engineer and an STO? I think you're more than qualified to hook up a trickle charger. In fact I know you are, I saw your electricity explanation when you guest starred on Tristan's channel. 😁Great vid! When are you back to sea?
That job went exactly how it would have gone for me. Should take ten minutes and turns in to half an hour and an engine light for no real reason, nothing is easy. I wonder why car manufacturers that build cars such as Porsche, Ferrari, etc...don't design a nicer plug receptacle for a charger. I watch a few different car channels and the charger plug hanging out seems like such an after thought but its a reality of owning multiple cars that are known to sit for longer than the average daily driver.
Get a scan tool for you're ECM before you take to dealer!
One big washer will do the trick
Mate, I think there's something wrong with that car. It appears they forgot to install the engine?
Haha
I think you are going to need a bigger garage. A Turbo S next???
Just got a reset tool, and reset it yourself.
I know you're a busy man, do you own your home, have you thought about painting your garage walls? You have a proper display area and painted walls would highlight your collections.
I have plans but never the time. Eventually…
Disconnect the battery and those corporate fascists come up with an 'engine warning light.' 🤬
All that probably in order to frustrate people from doing anything to their OWN flippin' car! #RightToRepair!
Well that's silly and annoying. Really should only need to do that to the nut, not the bolt also.
First you need to paint the walls white. What a ugly place for such nice cars.
With a garage filled with your toys, I wonder what hobby the wife has? (not that I really expect an answer)
It’s funny how people make assumptions based on no information.
@@eSysmanTech Well, I'm pretty sure you've previously used the words "wife" and "she" but sure, your partner could be a man. No judgment here.
But if you're thinking I somehow implied your partner doesn't, it's the opposite. I almost expect them to be equally passionate about theirs, be it quilting or racing motorcycles
BTW, whats with the down votes???? : -(