@AlphaUrbanKravMaga your training against a guy standing there like people do in karate. No one does karate any more because training like that doesn't work.
I'm all for using some sort of reactive move to block, or block whilst simultaneously causing pain to the attacker's strike (like in Ninjutsu), with the addition of footwork to move away or manoeuvre into a favourable position to attack the other person's leg etc, however, the overhand strike set-up strategy feels like it could go wrong, even if it is meant to induce a defensive reaction. I'm saying this as someone who is five foot five and doesn't have long arms. I've studied boxing, kickboxing, and (very briefly) Ninjutsu and judo, and as such I'm conscious of how much every move in a fight situation can take out of you. Do you have other ways of demonstrating how to set up the oblique kick in the video? FYI, please take the above as observations. I'm certainly not here to be rude like some of the other commenters.
Thanks for your comment mate, your response was respectful. So first off I prefer the big overhand right. I’m 5’3 and have T rex arms and it works for me. If you look on Instagram for a page called usf.fc and look at a post on the 9.6.24 there’s a great example of a smaller guy using the big overhand right against a bigger taller guy. Alternatively you can also use a reverse slap or a right cross to the bladder. I’ll do a more detailed video on how to set up the oblique kick and how you can train it for maximum impact in a confined space. Subscribe and I’ll get it done sometime this week.
That overhand is kind of unnecessary and not really realistic. You should always be far away from someone who is threatening to you. Oblique kicks work but not from that close. The point of the kick is to disable someone while they are far away from you. Watch Jon Jones do his. It also doesn't break a leg, it blows the ligaments out, someone can still walk on their leg without any ligaments. You grab chin strap grip on his head, and then do nothing with it. You should shuck him down to the mat and then take his back/side control and maintain control. This video overall is really really weird, and I think it works great on someone not fighting back, but it wouldn't work on someone who is throwing strikes, or has trained before.
I hear you mate. But I’ve had it done to me and when the guy comes at you aggressively and starts pushing you it’s very difficult to create distance. That’s why the overhand right is very hard powerful. It gives the guy something to think about up top as you aim for the oblique kick down to the knee. You can create a lot of power with the oblique kick in a close quarter confined space. I’ll do another video on this next week some point, showing you how to do it. There was client in our system who used a variation of this technique and the knee went on the bad guy went quickly. He didn’t even have to do the choke. If you watch the whole video at about 2:20 I do stick a choke on. You can do it the way you said. That’ll also work but for me I prefer it the way I do it.
@@AlphaUrbanKravMaga But its not even a real overhand, you have no power and you don't really come over the top, its like a long hook. Your way of doing it seems a lot less safe for the defended
Real easy when you have a static opponent. I’ve been training Krav for a decade. Not trying to say I’m something to talk about. Certainly not. But I have never seen or hear of anyone throwing a big overhand right just to create space. And it’s one of the easiest punches to defend against. This makes no sense.
Ok so the overhand right is a setup. As you know having trained in Krav or any in grappling sport you always try and set up your takedowns. Otherwise your opponent will read what you’re going for. In this case the over hand right isn’t necessarily meant to damage. Most people will instinctively block it allowing you the space and to timing to aim the oblique kick to the knees, breaking his balance and allowing you to stick on the choke. As an added bonus you get some stopping power with the strike as well. The oblique kick is very powerful as against a bigger, heavier guy because they’ve got all that extra weight on the joints. I’ve had a 2 clients personally use it in real life and it takes out the knee quickly.
@@AlphaUrbanKravMaga So your using it as a faint or a setup. Makes better sense now. The rest of the technique ai liked. Just wasn’t sure where you were going with the throw a huge overhand right thing. Gotcha.
Yeah I should have made that clearer in the video. It’s good feedback for next time. So thanks for that. And your question was a genuine one, so I’ve tried to answer it respectfully.
...and now it's karate all over again.
And that’s a bad because? There’s a reason the old techniques and training methods have survived for a reason.
@AlphaUrbanKravMaga your training against a guy standing there like people do in karate. No one does karate any more because training like that doesn't work.
pls dont take this guy seriously
A very constructive response mate. Adding a lot to society.
Any reason why we should YOU seriously?
I'm all for using some sort of reactive move to block, or block whilst simultaneously causing pain to the attacker's strike (like in Ninjutsu), with the addition of footwork to move away or manoeuvre into a favourable position to attack the other person's leg etc, however, the overhand strike set-up strategy feels like it could go wrong, even if it is meant to induce a defensive reaction.
I'm saying this as someone who is five foot five and doesn't have long arms. I've studied boxing, kickboxing, and (very briefly) Ninjutsu and judo, and as such I'm conscious of how much every move in a fight situation can take out of you.
Do you have other ways of demonstrating how to set up the oblique kick in the video?
FYI, please take the above as observations. I'm certainly not here to be rude like some of the other commenters.
Thanks for your comment mate, your response was respectful.
So first off I prefer the big overhand right. I’m 5’3 and have T rex arms and it works for me.
If you look on Instagram for a page called usf.fc and look at a post on the 9.6.24 there’s a great example of a smaller guy using the big overhand right against a bigger taller guy.
Alternatively you can also use a reverse slap or a right cross to the bladder.
I’ll do a more detailed video on how to set up the oblique kick and how you can train it for maximum impact in a confined space. Subscribe and I’ll get it done sometime this week.
That overhand is kind of unnecessary and not really realistic. You should always be far away from someone who is threatening to you. Oblique kicks work but not from that close. The point of the kick is to disable someone while they are far away from you. Watch Jon Jones do his. It also doesn't break a leg, it blows the ligaments out, someone can still walk on their leg without any ligaments. You grab chin strap grip on his head, and then do nothing with it. You should shuck him down to the mat and then take his back/side control and maintain control. This video overall is really really weird, and I think it works great on someone not fighting back, but it wouldn't work on someone who is throwing strikes, or has trained before.
I hear you mate. But I’ve had it done to me and when the guy comes at you aggressively and starts pushing you it’s very difficult to create distance.
That’s why the overhand right is very hard powerful. It gives the guy something to think about up top as you aim for the oblique kick down to the knee.
You can create a lot of power with the oblique kick in a close quarter confined space. I’ll do another video on this next week some point, showing you how to do it.
There was client in our system who used a variation of this technique and the knee went on the bad guy went quickly.
He didn’t even have to do the choke.
If you watch the whole video at about 2:20 I do stick a choke on.
You can do it the way you said. That’ll also work but for me I prefer it the way I do it.
@@AlphaUrbanKravMaga But its not even a real overhand, you have no power and you don't really come over the top, its like a long hook. Your way of doing it seems a lot less safe for the defended
Real easy when you have a static opponent. I’ve been training Krav for a decade. Not trying to say I’m something to talk about. Certainly not. But I have never seen or hear of anyone throwing a big overhand right just to create space. And it’s one of the easiest punches to defend against. This makes no sense.
Ok so the overhand right is a setup. As you know having trained in Krav or any in grappling sport you always try and set up your takedowns.
Otherwise your opponent will read what you’re going for. In this case the over hand right isn’t necessarily meant to damage.
Most people will instinctively block it allowing you the space and to timing to aim the oblique kick to the knees, breaking his balance and allowing you to stick on the choke.
As an added bonus you get some stopping power with the strike as well.
The oblique kick is very powerful as against a bigger, heavier guy because they’ve got all that extra weight on the joints. I’ve had a 2 clients personally use it in real life and it takes out the knee quickly.
@@AlphaUrbanKravMaga So your using it as a faint or a setup. Makes better sense now. The rest of the technique ai liked. Just wasn’t sure where you were going with the throw a huge overhand right thing. Gotcha.
Yeah I should have made that clearer in the video. It’s good feedback for next time. So thanks for that.
And your question was a genuine one, so I’ve tried to answer it respectfully.
Just stop.
Ohh I don’t know about that mate. With a user name like yours I might have to report you to the online police.
@@AlphaUrbanKravMaga If that's your security blanket, Snitch Sanderson.