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- ‘Doctor Who Unleashed: Children in Need Special’
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Thank you so much for posting this! I wasn't able to view the new Unleashed special in the States. It's a delight to see the creators and actors behind the scenes. Long live Doctor Who!
Anything to add,"@@WhyDoINeedOneOfThese"?
In regard to Davros, we've seen him as a child where he was not a wheel chair user so when I first watched the children in need short I assumed this Davros was pre what ever happened to necessitate wheel chair use.
Same with me, I thought it was pre machine, pre injury Davros. I also saw that episode with the child Davros. Considering that this was the mark 1 Dalek then I took it that it was not long before. To listen to the actual explanation from RTD, it is a bit problematic as by changing Davros to able bodied you are, in a way, saying that there are no bad people in wheelchairs and the past was a mistake. This is just as bad as saying all people in wheelchairs are bad and that ain’t good. How you get round it is to show good people in wheelchairs as well. Can we have balance and not temporal cleansing, please?
@@LoriCiani this is absolutely an unnecessary change.. it should be pre injury and not a retcon. no one considers this as an issue as davros is in this condition due to war; its part of the essential story of the daleks and who he is and what happens if we allow war to persist. if we follow this insane example and say we have a problem with Davros in a chair (its a life support system for him!) then daleks should also be walking.... cybermen should have real arms and legs... we could go on and on and on. Infact, just to be safe, lets not tell any stories at all!
@@verticalmaster Exactly. If RTD (and anyone at BBC, or Bad Wolf filming company) sees Davros as an evil wheelchair user, they should also see Daleks as being even more disabled, with no legs, no hands, a tank shell as their life support and means of movement and so on. But thing is, RTD can't change the Daleks, as Terry Nation Estate holds the rights. So he shouldn't also be changing Davros, not because of rights issues, but because of seeing him the same way as Daleks, his own creation. If Davros doesn't need his "wheelchair" anymore, then the Daleks don't make any sense at all. He created them as a reaction, possible inspiration to his own injury during the war. They are essentially connected. Retconning Davros but not his creations doesn't make any sense at all.
@@verticalmaster I agree,totally. 👍🏻
I don't have any problem with this change, i don't understand why people are making so much fuss about it...
But i just wish they had kept the extra eye on his forehead. That thing made him even scarier 😄
Just kidding. This new Davros still carries the same evil aura, it's just so well played by the actor...
The fact that David loves these bts documentaries is amazing. He's always encouraging the show runners to have bts like this which makes me even more excited to see the "unleashed" versions of the episodes even MORE than the episode itself😂
He's been like this since he grabbed a 'behind the scenes' camera and started talking to it while filming the Chistmas Invasion.
The biggest nerd on set, I tell ya.
It would completely make sense showing Davros like this before all the events we know will happen, but saying "This is what Davros looks like now." is throwing away years of canon and, more importantly, it's saying that disabled people are not capable people and THAT of all things should have been avoided on Children in Need night.
I think you're misinterpreting his words.
The way RTD says "it was black and white then, not anymore" seems to me like he's just tweaking that specific point of Davros's backstory. Sure, it sounded like they were changing Davros for the kiddies, but most of the iconic moments with Davros has had him in his half-Dalek unit as a mutated monster. Maybe that mutation hasn't happened quite yet... or to the extent we know it will be.
All this is coming from someone who's spent half of their life in a wheelchair, by the way, so you do not speak for me. And also, RTD mentioned trying to remove the "disabled = evil" stigma, which I do approve of.
@@weimaj he is basically saying no one who is disabled can be evil. They're all good guys. That in itself, is ableist.
@@weimajTy for your take. I felt like Davies was saying the image he wanted to project is a pre wheelchair Davros, and he was always pretty darn evil. It’s that very clear image we have in our minds that he wished to alter. Does that sound right?
@@lcflngn Okay fair, however, one sticking point: the episode where Davros met the 12th Doctor twice.
The ideas for these stories come from the past, so clearly Moffat's writing has influenced RTD in some way, especially since the last shot we saw of Davros had him being saved by the Doctor in his childhood.
On top of this, there's going to be more disabled actors playing roles as disabled characters coming up. So the representation is there.
Now, bare in mind, this is all just a short one-off special. Things could change. Worse case scenario, split timeline because... Time War? Best case scenario, it gets re-contextualised in the novel adaptation of the Star Beast or something, idk.
@@OverWims No, I think his phrasing is off. Good and evil are subjective, anyway.
Davros went down a dark route for a "good" cause - the survival of his people. We're seeing him in the special here at the pre-alpha stage of what would eventually lead to the Genesis of the Daleks story.
How about this: a few years before Genesis, he fell down an elevator shaft with the prototype and when they found him half-broken, they stuck him in there to save him. There, he's still evil, he just had some karma delivered to him. It might be a cop-out, but it'd be an in-universe explanation.
I thought this clip with Davros was a "before" where he was not yet so old and still hanging on to life to keep "progressing" the Kaled race for its preservation. I'd always assumed the Davros as we met him, using his wheelchair/life support system to keep himself alive, was because he was artificially extending his life due to seeing himself as the necessary savior of the Kaled race.
I just always thought Davros had always been maniacally machiavellian in his belief in Kaled superiority, to such an extent that, through age, and/or injury, he preserved himself to continue his work longer.
Even as a disability rights activist and advocate, I was unbothered, despite the trope of The Evil Crip (which is, as RTD said, a trope that is problematic when it's leaned on and not given any context or texture). I actually also like that Davros wasn't on the other end of the pendulum as the "always cheerful and accepting, friendly disabled person who is beloved by all."
I’m 21 but I’ll always be a child in need of doctor who😂
Same except I’m 35 😂
*Davros* "we can evolve" into Daleks obviously. Now what's wrong with RTD's vision of Davros'es previous portraial is, that this sentence makes zero sense with fully capable Davros. What evolution is that from a completely self-sustaining body to a creature, that has no hands, no legs, only one eye and is forever enclosed in a life supporting tank shell? It made sense from injured Davros, who took his own injury as inspiration, his life support chair as the basis for his new mutated Kaled subjects. It is an essential part of his story and their story. Daleks are tied to him.
{READ ONLY-&-ONLY IF YOU CONSENT TO #SPREADTHEWORD WHENEVER AND WHEREVER RELEVANT:
}Actually, horror works for over a century have found it pretty effortlessly _convincing_ that an evil entity looks:
A) “Ugly”( the more disfigured their face is, the better)
And yes..
B) “Acting unnaturally”( some kind of different-ability, _cf._ the concept of deviance - the very notion which inherently comes across like a bad-thing borne out of choice, most-likely than not)
Think of it like elections, there are quite a lot of stupid people - you just don't wish to acknowledge their existence.
I have no problem with Davros not being in a wheelchair but i fail to understand how him being evil and in a wheelchair has any significant meaning or would offend people in any way?
Same!
It's about the imprint on minds of the audiences carrying the dogma that different-ability is “abnormal”. To wit, it's a contribution.
{READ ONLY-&-ONLY IF YOU CONSENT TO #SPREADTHEWORD WHENEVER AND WHEREVER RELEVANT:
}Yes, horror works for over a century have found it pretty effortlessly _convincing_ that an evil entity looks:
A) “Ugly”( the more disfigured their face is, the better)
And yes..
B) “Acting unnaturally”( some kind of different-ability, _cf._ the concept of deviance - the very notion which inherently comes across like a bad-thing borne out of choice, most-likely than not)
Think of it like elections, there are quite a lot of stupid people - you just don't wish to acknowledge their existence.
Thank you!
Of course! I plan to upload the full episodes and if not, then at least clips for the whole series so stay tuned!
Thanks for using the hardcoded subtitles! Being outside the UK is hard. Especially to watch all the iplayer stuff. Ty!
Of course, I know how british accents can be a struggle to understand for some across the world so I decided to leave them on - glad to see it helped!! :)
So you're not an official "channel","@@dwunleashed" - correct?
Great work...;
As a wheelchair user myself, I have no issue with Davros being in a wheelchair.
The thing is that people who use wheelchairs are people, whether they are good or bad, it is no different from anyone else.
I am happy for good or evil characters using wheelchairs. The important thing is that the wheelchair is not the focus.
I must say, that before seeing this video, I had never considered his wheelchair use as reflecting poorly on disabled people, I just saw it as part of his body. I had figured that he was in a wheelchair, due to his ancient age, and also that he wanted to be part Dalek. Not only that, but I always felt that it was appropriate for his character.
Now that I see his Dalek body as a wheelchair, I kind of want one, how cool would that be. :P
"Just off the showroom floor"
"For the latest season"
So that's how the Daleks will look the next time we see them then.
No. Don't be stupid.
If it’s pre accident Davros shown in future episodes I have no issue with it, but if they change it so he’s always been standing then that’s just silly, has anybody ever looked at Davros and thought hmmm wheelchair users must be evil? How about let’s not cater to the stupid, that would be nice
{READ ONLY-&-ONLY IF YOU CONSENT TO #SPREADTHEWORD WHENEVER AND WHEREVER RELEVANT:
}Yes, horror works for over a century have found it pretty effortlessly _convincing_ that an evil entity looks:
A) “Ugly”( the more disfigured their face is, the better)
And yes..
B) “Acting unnaturally”( some kind of different-ability, _cf._ the concept of deviance - the very notion which inherently comes across like a bad-thing borne out of choice, most-likely than not)
Think of it like elections, there are quite a lot of stupid people - you just don't wish to acknowledge their existence.
Ya know, no matter how terrible of a day one can have, Doctor Who is always the best prescription to lift one’s morale.
I'm so glad to see a return of the behind the scenes looks. Can't wait for more!
While I love the design of Davros in the chair (not because of the chair in fact I have never really thought about it's inclusion) Davros is great villain because of his mind and I'd be very interested to see a pre injury Davros be an enemy for The new doctor to face. At the end of the day this shows about Time Travel these things can happen.
The act of saying no evil person can be in a wheelchair is in itself ableist. He is basically saying if you're in a wheelchair, you can't be evil. That is discriminatory against all wheelchair users as they can never play an evil character on the show. It's like when they only have black characters voiced by black actors. They don't realise that that in itself is racist. In the simpsons, they have people voicing different genders, ages, religions, everything but colour now. That is in itself racist. It's the exact same thing here.
Wow, you felt so smart, didn't you?
@@Pixxeria huh?
Bring Tharries (great Dr Who youtuber) in for accessibility checks every once in a while!! He's amazing, has a wheelchair and lives in Cardiff. can't wait for this series!!
Yesssss if the BBC don't bring Tharries in I'm leading a riot
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As someone who does use a wheelchair (practically my entire life)... I couldn't care less about Davros using one, and associating it to "evil". I see it more like his own misery in the best splendor, made by himself, to show how blind he is about all his beliefs and things he has done.
It will always be doctor who Confidential to me but I'm glad we're getting to see behind the scenes agin
Seeing davros pre- whatever happened to him is really cool, but the comments about how having a wheelchair user being evil as problematic is really stupid. thats like saying you shouldnt have black people be villains, or people with scars, or literally anyone you could argue has been marginalized. It's completely bonkers to think that having a villain have a disability harms real disabled people in any way.
I think they meant more like quite often in a series or show they have disabled villains and it is a big part of their evilness. The problems isn't that they are disabled but rather that they are the only disabled characters in the show. Also, it does keep going with the narrative of not trusting disabled people which can translate into real life specially children
{READ ONLY-&-ONLY IF YOU CONSENT TO #SPREADTHEWORD WHENEVER AND WHEREVER RELEVANT:
}No, horror works for over a century have found it pretty effortlessly _convincing_ that an evil entity looks:
A) “Ugly”( the more disfigured their face is, the better)
And yes..
B) “Acting unnaturally”( some kind of different-ability, _cf._ the concept of deviance - the very notion which inherently comes across like a bad-thing borne out of choice, most-likely than not)
Think of it like elections, there are quite a lot of stupid people - you just don't wish to acknowledge their existence.
I love Doctor Who and I love Russell but I fundamentally disagree with his reasoning to change Davros. By his statement he’s saying the disability is linked to Davros being evil or that people would view others with disabilities as being evil because of Davros. We should be looking past disabilities, race, gender, etc and see the individuals for who they are. Davros is evil because Davros’ personal ideas were evil, not because of his disfigurement.
If we’re going to change anything, it should be to showcase individuals good or bad beliefs rather than attributing them to shallow things like disabilities, race, gender, etc because that only scratches the surface of an individual. Those things don’t define people.
Davros being in a wheelchair is problematic now? Who looks at Davros and thinks "oh he's evil because he's disabled?" I always saw him as half man, half machine.
I always saw it as he gave so much of himself to rebuild the daleks, literally his own flesh, that he disabled himself. But that never came with any association applied generally between evil and disability
Apparently Davies and his team found it problematic so although it says more about them than it does us or society - we'll all have to endure this change to canon and the rest that follows because after all, its "the current year"
What people don’t get is Davros was probably evil BEFORE he got in the chair! Being disabled had nothing to do with it. If anything this story shows that. I mean he already had the dalek before the accident. If they don’t like Davros being in the chair then either don’t have stories with Davros in it and show more of him before that happened because unfortunately we’ve already seen him in the chair it’s fixed we all know it’s going to happen in the future.
@@Mike1064abAgreed. I actually think it would be quite interesting to see more of this Davros in his earlier years. That would mean he can’t meet The Doctor though? Knowingly at least. Still, there’s a way forward I guess. The problem becomes more pronounced when / if they start slotting their new concept for Davros in to the timeline when we know he was already disabled.
I thought he was war-wounded, both psychologically and physically. The alternative to believing he is "damaged" is to believe that people are born evil, which is a more dehumanizing view. "Hurt people hurt people", "to be brutal someone must first be brutalized" That doesn't mean every traumatized person winds up evil: what it means is someone who has managed to suffer horrors and yet still hold on to their humanity has fought for that and won.
If I don't have the potential to be a villain then what credit is there in not being? Everyone's potential for villainy is what makes their virtue commendable. There can be no virtue without the possibility of villainy.
Anyway, his body tells his story and it is a tragic story. He is a product of the horrors of war. And, yes, there is some self harm in there, of course. Whilst he artificially bred pity and compassion out of his creations, he chose to exorcise those emotions from himself, he chose to see them as weaknesses, but his choices would have been provoked by circumstances.
I think he was probably well on the road to becoming a monster before the incident that robbed him of his legs. Remember, the crucible he was born in was a thousand year war that left his world a poisonous wasteland, in a fascist authoritarian society as well in which weakness was not tolerated, on a diet of kaled supremacist propaganda. He didn't become evil in a vacuum.
Thank uuuu for making this channel
Thank you so much from France for putting this on UA-cam, i'm so glad i can watch this ☺️
Why is RTD, aided by the makeup department, trying to establish an association between having dark rings under your eyes and being evil?
You completely missed the point huh
@@TheTomLees No, I think I got it, thanks.
I have bags and dark circles from working all night at the Medical Centre. Does that make me evil RTD?
@@mjg1544I'm old and knackered but I don't think I'm evil....😊
I'm sure if Davros ever returns to the main series he will probably look like he usually does.
No he won’t. Not under RTD. They’ll probably say the Doctor’s regeneration energy gave him back his mobility.
When I watched the episode I thought it was a younger version of davros + i thought also that the dalek "wheelchair" wasn't a wheelchair but like for the cybermen an upgrade . Still it's your choice RTD and I respect that you changed davros because you thought it could possibly harm wheelchair users . I can't wait for the 60th specials.
FINALLY somebody who understood his point about the pernicious century-old trope in horror literature.
Long live Doctor Who.
Happy Birthday, Doctor 😊
Guys the davros change isn’t all that, the old stories still exist. Redesigns happen all the time, if it is as bad and unworkable as you all think it’ll change back but if it works it’ll stay just let them do what they want for now especially for a children in need special
What is the tradition of wheelchairs users being evil across the entertainment business. Ive wracked my brains and can't come up with any other examples... Ironside? No.
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Davros appearance spoke to his character, you imagined the wars he must have fought, the suffering and sacrifices he made in pursuit of creating the ultimate weapon. It gave him depth. Now he's just another pantomime villain, just evil for the fun of it. And this is progressive? Nonsense
He runs like a Welshman!
Doesn't he run like a Welshman? 😂
Doctor who for me will never die. Like William Afton from fnaf will always come back
Despite what naysayers will have you believe
WE NEED THE NEXT EP
Hope this doesn't get taken down by the bbc
thank you for uploading this 🙌
Is this the full episode?? THANKS!! Also, that is one welsh accent on that presenter!
Wait, is this an official BBC channel???
Lol liked the ending 😂
its not a Wheel Chair its not a wheel chair its not...
Are you the DW Unreleased guy?
7:35 Daleks in the latest season?
What a strong Welsh accent from that host lmao
So his first comic didn't happen then? His actual post regen story? And where he lands on a sycorax ship
*landing
(also known as crashing)
Why can't villains be disabled?
The Timeless Children in need!
Im hoping... im fucking huffing the strongest hopium i could find on satans armpits, yall!! I really hope doctor who stuff gets a better treatment and just overall transforms into an even better show than what we got with mr chibby piloting the sunken ship of theseus
that was such a great sentiment expressed by RTD relating the association/ stereotype between a disabled/ wheel-chair bound character and evil
I get his thinking and see his reasoning but it's flawed reasoning. He didn't take into account that nobody saw Davros as evil because he was disabled, or even any connection between the two. The comments under any of the videos covering this sketch or the forums for the decades past prove this. It didn't need to happen and it was a bad decision IMO. Same goes for his reasoning behind Tennant not wearing Whittaker's clothes after the regen. It's weak and I expected him to have more balls, to own it instead of cowering down to it.
Of course, this all depends on when exactly this is set and what he does with Davros in the future. It changes things if he only uses Davros before he ended up in his chair, that only changes canon a bit.
Sounded condensing and preachy to me , which is a worry 😟
@@pikehead1 in an age with such a heavy conformity and such woke-ness, i respected him explaining the team’s thought process behind it rather than just doing it and making that the way it is now. with his transparency i received it as much less preachy
@@willflint46his reaction on 𝕏 to criticisms on this issue unfortunately makes him look rather petulant and egotistical.
Did you ask where is Rose, I LOVE ROSE!
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What Russell is doing sounds great on paper but in actuality he's just removed another disabled character from the show, by his standard.
Also it really shows the complexity of these issues when you begin to think who uses a wheelchair. The elderly and infirm, the sick, those who have been in accidents or have been in a war - not just those born with a limiting condition.
I think most of us agree he would be better off ADDING more disabled characters to the canon to show the breadth of human condition and to show that disabled people have the capacity to be fully autonomous and to have free will to choose to do good things or bad on their own.
Maybe Davies could focus on the fact that the Doctor has always been slapped by women for laughs, up until he wore a female appearance. This is a much greater issue than Davros and affects every single person. Oh wait, that would actually be progressive instead of regressive...
I have been in a wheelchair for half my life, and that stems from an unknown issue that lead to cerebral palsy and Tourettes at 10 months old.
I think the idea of a developing disabilty that leads to Davros becoming the half-Dalek maniac we knew is a smart choice... which is what Moffat showed with the 12th Doctor... so maybe your anger is misguided slightly.
@@weimaj I would agree, if the disability developed that would be cool. It seems Russell is saying that this is how it is going to be moving forward, just seems like a weird choice
@@TheOTA101 If that's the case, then maybe he's going to show the events that lead to the version we know. Like a gradual degeneration into insanity and incapability. I'd certainly find that more interesting than a standard bland "Davros gets backstabbed by the Daleks" storyline. RTD could take this and flesh it out.
I wish they just kept David tenant and did a whole season with him instead of the other guy or delay him a season
RTD is normally pretty good with acknowledging injustice in his scripts, but he has jumped the shark with his public comments regarding Davros. For one, Davros is NOT a wheelchair user - he depends on a mobile life-support system (which is VERY different) that has kept him alive after a crippling accident. If Davros is "a wheelchair user", then I guess it follows so are the Daleks, which is a ludicrous assertion. Second, NOBODY watching TV would assume all wheelchair users are evil just because one character in a TV show might be (that's bonkers in the extreme). Doctor Who has featured noble and heroic wheelchair users in the past - Dortmun in The Dalek Invasion of Earth is one; Dr. Judson in The Curse of Fenric and Rona Bellows in Last Christmas were others. Third, it's simply nuts to put forward that wheelchair users, from this point on, CANNOT EVER be flawed or villainous characters in Doctor Who. Luckily, this skit is set at a time before Genesis of the Daleks, so we can all agree that this is prior to Davros' terrible accident - so, Russell, there is still plenty of wiggle room if you want to change your mind.
Welcome to the final nail in the coffin of Doctor Who.
What next - ‘cyber’them’? It’s fine to show Davros evil when he stands but he can’t be evil sitting down ? RTD has officially lost the plot.
that cyberman joke wasn't funny
@@biggywiggypiggy nothing about this is remotely amusing.
It’s a well documented and debated old cliche, especially among James Bond films, that villains were disabled or disfigured. That’s what is being referred to. Calm down.
@@cslkenny ok Michael Winner I’m calm. It’s hardly a debate if the writer of the show has decided. Old Davros has been cancelled. Even the Dr couldn’t manage to do that.
@@leonhughes134 you clearly weren't paying attention to the full video
I wonder if the camera person on the roving platform realizes he needs representation by RTD, just like Davros. You know, in case he’s handicap.
I lost a ton of respect I had for RTD.
Black Doctor - ☑️
Trans representation - new Rose ☑️
Trans villain - ☑️
Gay showrunner - ☑️
Wiping 49 years of Davros history and canon is friggin crossing the damn line. Perhaps the Terry Nation estate will sue.
I hate the: "This is 2023. This is our view." Oh, grow up. Make him look different but have a story reason for it, not a Political reason. You could just tell he is younger, just pre-wheelchair, that would be just fine.. Audience would get that he is evil without the wheelchair, and that the wheelchair is just a prop, a tool. This is just mixing politics and story telling, and its just not right.
Its not a f***ing wheelchair! For shame russel!