I may have been a little too evil giving you all these cards that the entire Runeterra community was wrong about when they got revealed. That being said, this is my favorite video on the entire internet.
I think it’s hard for a hs player to understand how expensive removal is in runeterra. In hearthstone a minion surviving on board for more than 2 turns is pretty rare because basically all units come with the equivalent of challenger.
Yeah. Most people who came from hearthstone, including people like swim, extremely underestimated removal in LoR when they first saw the cards. Cards like withering wail (deal 1 to all enemy units + heal 3) or grasp of the undying (deal 3 damage to a single unit + heal 3) in HS would probably cost 2 mana, while in LoR those cards cost 5.
@@dificulttocure spell mana is also a big deal when it comes to evaluating spells, basically all spells cost like 1-2 more than they would in hearthstone as a baseline, because you can save excess mana.
Yeah, broadwing is a really good card even in a vacuum because it's essentially 2 mana "deal 3," but in hearthstone there's literally a deal 3 spell with an upside lol (would be absolutely busted in LoR)
@@dificulttocure Hearthstone actually did print Grasp of the Undying (with a different name of course). It costed 3 mana and was quite good. Your points are overall correct though.
@@lucasgerosa4177 I wouldn't say he's one of the best, because he himself is not really a win con But he can get you through difficult mid games, that's fine.
@@heidtb6746 trundle may not be a wincon but he is the one that makes the win con possible and glues that entire team together. i do hope tho he doesn't get nerfed cause he actually is one of the cooler cards in this game
@@A1phaz0ne especially because no other card game does it like this it should stand out that it specifically mentions silence after morph. my point being that it looks weird so it must be there for a reason
Almost all of Rarran guesses are actually accurate in terms of how Runeterra community is reacted when the card are revealed. Players think Tri-beam suck, Petricite Broadwing is average, and Minitee is busted, those are our opinoon on those card release lol
OMG my boyfriend is a Hearthstoner and I'm a Runeterran and we do games like this all the time! We also did "Give me a unique card and I'll tell you the most similar card/mechanic/niche gameplan in my respective game" and "Give me a unique card and I'll try to create a card that doesn't exist that is balanced in my respective game". Fun times :]
7:56 So about this card and spells in general, one thing to keep in mind in runeterra is that leftover mana from your turn becomes spell mana, which can be held as up to 3 extra mana that sticks around between rounds until it's used and can only be used to cast spells. Because of this, spells are allowed to cost comparatively more than minions while still being useful, and having spell mana saved up can lead to really high tempo turns due to the extra mana to cast spells. So a 6 mana removal is really not something to be upset about in runeterra.
@@luisguillermogarcia3724 no its not... It leaves a 3/3 compared to a 1/1. Maybe in mid to late game it doesnt matter but back when poly was played in classic hs, the difference between 3/3 and 1/1 was massive
Oh man I havent played Runeterra since it was released. But these videos with the colabbing between games are so entertaining. Very glad to have found this channel. I would like to see more of these videos of you want to make them. Such content much wow
I’d like you to do an expedition, and have someone coach you through the draft phase. Expedition is basically LOR’s arena mode. I think it would be fun to hear your thought process, and then see what the optimal pick would be.
This was a ton of fun to play along with! You guys should do another one! I actually got the majority right, but there were some surprises like the Arsenal card.
One thing about Minimorph is that it’s very powerful vs all-in combo strategies but not as good vs tempo based ones. Most aggro and midrange don’t really care if you spend 6 mana to turn something into a 3/3 since they’ll still have a body you’ll need to deal with, albeit a weak one. It’s effectively a 6 mana silence that reduce their stats.
Currently it’s not ran very often outside of Bandle decks that need hard removal. The ones that do have better options in other regions. However it is still a really annoying card due to being “burst” speed removal.
What a great video love seeing people guess how good stuff is in other games. It also just shows how different other card games are from each other. Keep up the great work!
oh my what an entertaining video this is! i used to play hearthstone 3 years ago and i've recently picked up runterra now and slowly climbing my way up the ranks
I love the inclusion of both "This card is mid-tier" so that you're not only showing off waste-of-space cards or game-ending juggernauts, and cards where Sunny admits the whole playerbase made the same mistake as you when the card first released.
9:00 It doesn't just remove minions. The reason the community is going nuts over this card is because it can polymorph ANYTHING. Imagine paying 6 mana in Hearthstone to turn Guldaan into a sheep and remove your opponents ability to lifetap. That's about how powerful this card is.
love those kind of videos maybe if you find a magic / shadowverse or vanguard player you can review the cards from there game and compare them, i think you have a good shot at shadowverse because it is nearly like hearthstone
This is what I wanted to happen for the previous video you did, where an experienced player gives you more interesting cards. Broadwing is a good test of mechanics, the Freljord synergy is good but it's run in almost every Demacia deck regardless of region, it's just that the keywords are worth more than their Hearthstone equivalent due to MTG combat. Minimorph isn't a strong card, it's actually fairly costed for what it's effect is worth, but yeah it's a tech card that makes all-in combos unplayable. Another problem with megatee is that it can continually target the same mini-minitee, so if your opponent has a lot of small minions they can continue to block you while developing their win condition.
It's funny because I feel like most top masters players would tell you Sunny/Grapplr's complaints about minitee are silly. It's awful vengeance most of the time. It's situationally good, but being unplayable against aggro is a massive cost. Minimorph... is actually so situational it borders on bad. It's just memer and casual player hate fodder.
I think with tribeam getting ranjed so low the reason is that the hearthstone curve experience means you are not likely to play a lot of 3 costs. But in LoR you can use the banked mana from 1 and 2 for piltover peacemaker turn 4 or 5.
Yeah honestly cards with no counter play are dumb as hell. The fact u just play a card that ur opponent cant respond to and invalidates their entire game plan and they just lose is so dumb. In hs, game winning cards dont requite to stick on board because of how easy everything gets removed. Kaz shuffles 10 treasures in ur deck. Celestial fucks up ur mana and mana costs. Hooktusk steals a bunch of cards immediately. Guardian immediately freezes the board and becomes massive. Boars immediately give 15 weapon that sets u to 1 mana. None of the game winning finishers in hs need to stick on the board like apparently lee and fiora need to, since all the effects are activated when played. In that sense LoR is like classic or naxx hs where minions on board were like a holy grail whereas now in hs warrior just casually clears ur entire board with a 5 dmg aoe that costs 0 mana (literally) with no downsides, board are treated like poop now that u wipe ur asshole with
I ran hothead with an Allegiance deck (means pure Shurima) and Shurima is slightly better at protecting pieces than Bandle City. Also, they changed Hothead into a 3/3 when I deck built. I use a 4 drop 3/2 (terrible statline, hope this unit in specific gets buffed) "Golden Ambassador" with "give your top champion in your deck +2/+2 and draw it". So I enter with a Champion +3/+3 and a random keyword, I guarantee draw the champ I just buffed. It only works with some champions that have specific skills, abilities, statlines, or pre-existing keywords, but it's still pretty funny to have 7/7 first strike Fiora or something randomly busted.
"The Howling Abyss is bad" WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH OUR SNNUY GIVE THE REAL ONE BACK TO US /jk For reference Snnuy always plays at least one copy of it in any Freljord deck, it is tradition
That's the major thing about Runeterra: there are many cards that seem bad on the surface, but because the game has so many very specific mechanics and decks, within that particular deck, a card can become really broken. I feel like Snnuy was alluding to that a lot, lol.
A fun idea would be you as someone who mows little about runeterra picking two champions without knowing anything else about the deck and having the LOR player try to build a deck from it
Hearthstone client needs a UI rewamp. Not everyone is playing on small phone screens. At least they should make it adjustable. Maybe I'm playing on a 4K monitor and I want to see lots of cards at same time with ever increasing card library. Same goes for mercenaries, 3 mercenaries in a row with a Full HD screen is just awful.
What makes the Minatee Transform spell nasty isnt that it can remove a minion (there are some strong minions tho, that you would act on). It can remove a champion. Pantheon? This level 2 monster? If he doesnt have spell shield.. now he's gone.. permanently. No reaction.
Haha like this sort of content. It's fun and breezy and I can update myself on LOR without watching LOR. Maybe get each other to play some meta decks and see how far people can go? Or yeah more cards to evaluate is also fun!
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I may have been a little too evil giving you all these cards that the entire Runeterra community was wrong about when they got revealed.
That being said, this is my favorite video on the entire internet.
Snnuy the type of guy who likes his own comments Kappa
This one is my fav "guess how good a card" collab I see so far.
We will have to do this again
@@Rarran time for GrappLR right
I think it’s hard for a hs player to understand how expensive removal is in runeterra. In hearthstone a minion surviving on board for more than 2 turns is pretty rare because basically all units come with the equivalent of challenger.
Yeah. Most people who came from hearthstone, including people like swim, extremely underestimated removal in LoR when they first saw the cards. Cards like withering wail (deal 1 to all enemy units + heal 3) or grasp of the undying (deal 3 damage to a single unit + heal 3) in HS would probably cost 2 mana, while in LoR those cards cost 5.
@@dificulttocure spell mana is also a big deal when it comes to evaluating spells, basically all spells cost like 1-2 more than they would in hearthstone as a baseline, because you can save excess mana.
@@satibel And on top of that there is the fact that they can be used reactively to conteract some enemy spells, invalidating or reducing their effect.
Yeah, broadwing is a really good card even in a vacuum because it's essentially 2 mana "deal 3," but in hearthstone there's literally a deal 3 spell with an upside lol (would be absolutely busted in LoR)
@@dificulttocure Hearthstone actually did print Grasp of the Undying (with a different name of course). It costed 3 mana and was quite good.
Your points are overall correct though.
Rarran about Howling Abyss: "I'm gonna say this card is bad"
Snnuy: "And I took that personally"
That finale was so funny.
"I tried to give you an easy one, but I guess it wasn't that easy..."
Trundle is actually one of the best champs in the game and there's a good chance he gets nerfed next patch, lol
@@lucasgerosa4177 I wouldn't say he's one of the best, because he himself is not really a win con
But he can get you through difficult mid games, that's fine.
@@heidtb6746 trundle may not be a wincon but he is the one that makes the win con possible and glues that entire team together. i do hope tho he doesn't get nerfed cause he actually is one of the cooler cards in this game
@@Dr.JonathanCrane Idk, I'd say that a 10+/7 overwhelm regen with pseudo challenger can end games pretty effectively
As someone who plays both games that video was super entertaining. I would love to see you make more Runeterra related content
I probs won’t make runeterra content, but I will collab with people
@@Rarran would be cool to see a video with Silverfuse she's a good LoR player as well with some whacky decks, her decks are second after Snnuy to me
@@Rarran is that so? lolol
This type of content is really fun, hope to see more in the future!
By far the most entertaining card game content, plus you can attract two audiences lol
same im from runeterra abd ive been loving these vidoes!
The reason minimorph silences is because buff carry over between transforming
That's something that needed to make clear lol
tbf even if you don't know that you'd assume there's a good reason why it specifies silence after morph
@@sqfzerzefsdf Its not intuitive at all. Especially when you consider that literally no other card game treat polymorph effects that way.
@@A1phaz0ne especially because no other card game does it like this it should stand out that it specifically mentions silence after morph. my point being that it looks weird so it must be there for a reason
And also because it has two effects; if the unit has spellshield, then the silence at least gets through.
Almost all of Rarran guesses are actually accurate in terms of how Runeterra community is reacted when the card are revealed. Players think Tri-beam suck, Petricite Broadwing is average, and Minitee is busted, those are our opinoon on those card release lol
"Targon's Peak"
"Is it from Ionia?"
yes.. of course it is from ionia... it couldn't possibly be from targon... now that would just be crazy right?
Need more different cards game youtuber do this "..." player guess how good "..." cards
Exactly this is so entertaining
Unga bunga
The duel logs has a series like that where he (a Yu-Gi-Oh player) tries to guess how powerful MTG cards are
@@jonathanandersen8381 he also did the pokemon, digimon, and Vanguard card.
@@ReigoVassal Let's be real, the mtg ones are the only ones that you watched more than once
Really loved this vid. I love Snnuy, and it was super cool to see the two of you collaborating together.
OMG my boyfriend is a Hearthstoner and I'm a Runeterran and we do games like this all the time!
We also did "Give me a unique card and I'll tell you the most similar card/mechanic/niche gameplan in my respective game" and "Give me a unique card and I'll try to create a card that doesn't exist that is balanced in my respective game". Fun times :]
Love this kind of content. You can make an entire playlist of guessing cards and I will watch it.
so true just me chilling in bed watching it all
Im here from Grapplr's channel. i just wanted to say i love your vibes and if you keep making runeterra content ill be coming back for sure!
We need more of this type of vid as a cardgame player so we can all unite in the feeling of saltyness when meta decks are played against us.
5:39 This is literally my favorite card. To my mind it is very useful. It is just a great feeling to get a lvl2 Nautilus or Aurelion
5:05 "This is from Ionia I think?"
Snnuy: triggered
7:56 So about this card and spells in general, one thing to keep in mind in runeterra is that leftover mana from your turn becomes spell mana, which can be held as up to 3 extra mana that sticks around between rounds until it's used and can only be used to cast spells. Because of this, spells are allowed to cost comparatively more than minions while still being useful, and having spell mana saved up can lead to really high tempo turns due to the extra mana to cast spells. So a 6 mana removal is really not something to be upset about in runeterra.
Basically Minimorph (if you use your spell mana) can cost 3 mana, which compared with polymorph, its actually really good.
@@luisguillermogarcia3724 no its not... It leaves a 3/3 compared to a 1/1. Maybe in mid to late game it doesnt matter but back when poly was played in classic hs, the difference between 3/3 and 1/1 was massive
Rarran: *Targon's* Peak
Also Rarran: It's from Ionia
Oh man I havent played Runeterra since it was released. But these videos with the colabbing between games are so entertaining. Very glad to have found this channel. I would like to see more of these videos of you want to make them. Such content much wow
lmao Snnuy went for all the difficult ones!
Kept waiting for the Sunk Cost card... Super fun anyway!
lmao that would be hilarious, especially considering how much more expensive removal is in Runeterra compared to Hearthstone
Cant have a sunny vid without howling abyss
These type of videos are great because they're interactive, we can guess along side you!
you should have said after Rarran saw how strong Pantheon is
"minimorph turns pantheon into a 3|3 with no chance to respond"
nahh. chads . will always high roll spell shield.. hahaha
minimorph against a pantheon deck is really bad
You should make a series of these. This is a lot of fun :)
LOVE THIS ! LOR really needs more content, keep it up.
This was very refreshing to watch, thanks to both of you! (Im a LOR player)
love this as someone who's played both games. keep the crossovers coming!
I’d like you to do an expedition, and have someone coach you through the draft phase. Expedition is basically LOR’s arena mode. I think it would be fun to hear your thought process, and then see what the optimal pick would be.
Sadly Expedition is leaving in about 2 weeks :(
This was a ton of fun to play along with! You guys should do another one! I actually got the majority right, but there were some surprises like the Arsenal card.
Idk how popular is this content in your channel. I'm a Runeterra player, and this has sparked an interest in HS. So thanks.
One thing that make Runeterra is interesting is how a card can be garbage in most deck but a wincon in other deck.
One thing about Minimorph is that it’s very powerful vs all-in combo strategies but not as good vs tempo based ones. Most aggro and midrange don’t really care if you spend 6 mana to turn something into a 3/3 since they’ll still have a body you’ll need to deal with, albeit a weak one. It’s effectively a 6 mana silence that reduce their stats.
Currently it’s not ran very often outside of Bandle decks that need hard removal. The ones that do have better options in other regions. However it is still a really annoying card due to being “burst” speed removal.
What a great video love seeing people guess how good stuff is in other games. It also just shows how different other card games are from each other. Keep up the great work!
Much better than the last video of this format IMO, really enjoyed and it'll be fun if you do one of those again (or when the next expansion happens)
I'm an LoR player, and these videos actually made me come back into hearthstone, lol
oh my what an entertaining video this is! i used to play hearthstone 3 years ago and i've recently picked up runterra now and slowly climbing my way up the ranks
this is some top notch content. I love the idea of bringing different communities together.
8:09 there's a similar card in LOR, 'Lulu's Whimsy' has the same effect for 4 mana!
I as a player of both games I love these videos. Keep it up!
I love this concept and would love for this to become a series with probably more games. It is like an outsiders perspective of a game.
Love this type of video, hope you do more!
I love this type of video, please bring a part 2 of this or of the runeterra player guessing hs cards thats awesome
Targon's peak should read "your spacey sketcher costs 0 next turn"
When Rarran said that Howling Abyss isn’t something you put into a deck randomly I almost choked
I love the inclusion of both "This card is mid-tier" so that you're not only showing off waste-of-space cards or game-ending juggernauts, and cards where Sunny admits the whole playerbase made the same mistake as you when the card first released.
MOOORE PLEASE IT WAS SO MUCH FUN TO WATCH!!!!
Loved it! Also very interesting to see the Hearthstone perspective as a LoR Player who never touched Hearthstone.
9:00 It doesn't just remove minions. The reason the community is going nuts over this card is because it can polymorph ANYTHING.
Imagine paying 6 mana in Hearthstone to turn Guldaan into a sheep and remove your opponents ability to lifetap. That's about how powerful this card is.
Yeah, he glanced over it because in hearthstone, there are no champs and burst speed removal is literally the norm, lol
Im an old HS player who migrated to LoR, and I love this kind of content! Much love
Such a fun idea for a video. I really enjoyed it.
love those kind of videos maybe if you find a magic / shadowverse or vanguard player you can review the cards from there game and compare them, i think you have a good shot at shadowverse because it is nearly like hearthstone
Really enjoying these collabs :^)
"so next one is targon's speak,so i guess its from ionia"
Targonians:👁️👄👁️
It cannot be a Snnuy video without the Howling abyss
This is what I wanted to happen for the previous video you did, where an experienced player gives you more interesting cards. Broadwing is a good test of mechanics, the Freljord synergy is good but it's run in almost every Demacia deck regardless of region, it's just that the keywords are worth more than their Hearthstone equivalent due to MTG combat.
Minimorph isn't a strong card, it's actually fairly costed for what it's effect is worth, but yeah it's a tech card that makes all-in combos unplayable.
Another problem with megatee is that it can continually target the same mini-minitee, so if your opponent has a lot of small minions they can continue to block you while developing their win condition.
It's funny because I feel like most top masters players would tell you Sunny/Grapplr's complaints about minitee are silly. It's awful vengeance most of the time. It's situationally good, but being unplayable against aggro is a massive cost. Minimorph... is actually so situational it borders on bad. It's just memer and casual player hate fodder.
these are the best videos ever, please keep making them for both games!
I have to say Rarran, this is quite the "Chaotic" video :)
Just gonna say it, I once made a deck built around just stealing my enemies deck, then duping the stolen cards. I call it the trollolol
i have not played HS in like 7 years but your videos are bangers nonetheless, this video however was a banger beyond comparison, good work!
I think with tribeam getting ranjed so low the reason is that the hearthstone curve experience means you are not likely to play a lot of 3 costs. But in LoR you can use the banked mana from 1 and 2 for piltover peacemaker turn 4 or 5.
I love how minimorph just warps reality and makes fiora and Lee sin decks unplayable
Yeah honestly cards with no counter play are dumb as hell. The fact u just play a card that ur opponent cant respond to and invalidates their entire game plan and they just lose is so dumb. In hs, game winning cards dont requite to stick on board because of how easy everything gets removed. Kaz shuffles 10 treasures in ur deck. Celestial fucks up ur mana and mana costs. Hooktusk steals a bunch of cards immediately. Guardian immediately freezes the board and becomes massive. Boars immediately give 15 weapon that sets u to 1 mana. None of the game winning finishers in hs need to stick on the board like apparently lee and fiora need to, since all the effects are activated when played. In that sense LoR is like classic or naxx hs where minions on board were like a holy grail whereas now in hs warrior just casually clears ur entire board with a 5 dmg aoe that costs 0 mana (literally) with no downsides, board are treated like poop now that u wipe ur asshole with
LOL I love your reaction to Runeterra cards.
Do more of these, they are very fun for both sides of the community I think :D
More of these vids! Was really entertaining :D
I ran hothead with an Allegiance deck (means pure Shurima) and Shurima is slightly better at protecting pieces than Bandle City. Also, they changed Hothead into a 3/3 when I deck built.
I use a 4 drop 3/2 (terrible statline, hope this unit in specific gets buffed) "Golden Ambassador" with "give your top champion in your deck +2/+2 and draw it".
So I enter with a Champion +3/+3 and a random keyword, I guarantee draw the champ I just buffed. It only works with some champions that have specific skills, abilities, statlines, or pre-existing keywords, but it's still pretty funny to have 7/7 first strike Fiora or something randomly busted.
really fun stuff man!
We need more videos like this.
One thing that might help Rarran depends on how much he knows about the regions of the cards.
"The Howling Abyss is bad"
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH OUR SNNUY GIVE THE REAL ONE BACK TO US /jk
For reference Snnuy always plays at least one copy of it in any Freljord deck, it is tradition
i like its flavor, being the ARAM map and adding random champs
His thought process was pretty solid, I feel bad.
that trundle part killed me
A straight upgrade to a previous video with a similar premise Pog.
Wasn't interested at first but it'll be cool trying to guess along with you on how effective these cards are.
i could watch 10 hours of these
That's the major thing about Runeterra: there are many cards that seem bad on the surface, but because the game has so many very specific mechanics and decks, within that particular deck, a card can become really broken. I feel like Snnuy was alluding to that a lot, lol.
When he guest targon peak from ionia 🤣🤣🤣
A fun idea would be you as someone who mows little about runeterra picking two champions without knowing anything else about the deck and having the LOR player try to build a deck from it
They should revert Targons Peak back to 5, and put Howling Abyss there with it *(insert Lenny face)
Pls make a sequel to this viedo. Its so fun.
"Hearthstone Abyss" "Content Creator Card" yup 😂
I play both games but love Ruinterra a bit more. It's all the enjoyment of the lore of league of legends with none of the toxic player chat.
Love this, keep going
Hearthstone client needs a UI rewamp. Not everyone is playing on small phone screens. At least they should make it adjustable. Maybe I'm playing on a 4K monitor and I want to see lots of cards at same time with ever increasing card library. Same goes for mercenaries, 3 mercenaries in a row with a Full HD screen is just awful.
I love these video's with my favorite LOR creators
What makes the Minatee Transform spell nasty isnt that it can remove a minion (there are some strong minions tho, that you would act on). It can remove a champion. Pantheon? This level 2 monster? If he doesnt have spell shield.. now he's gone.. permanently. No reaction.
"LOR is basicaly the same game but you dont have to ruin yourself every 6 month to keep your level."
A really fun content. More of this please. 👍
Haha like this sort of content. It's fun and breezy and I can update myself on LOR without watching LOR.
Maybe get each other to play some meta decks and see how far people can go?
Or yeah more cards to evaluate is also fun!
I love this series. I don’t even play YuGiOh or LoR and I watch them anyway
Now I want to see the reverse happening.
Please do more content of this type i really really like them
Great video!
Rarran you like me... lets stay in hearhtstone 🤣🤣🤣🤣
loved the video would love some more lor content pls :D
I’d love to see more of these but with more champion cards please!
He would surprise when combine Plunder deck ( steal card ) with Zilean & TF
Another gift for Renekton!
The undying card was really good in Elise aggro deck