I like what Shaq said on TNT a few weeks back. A true contending team 1)Beats the teams they're supposed to beat 2)Dominant at home 3)Stays above .500 on the road. The Bucks do none of the above, and can't be considered a real contender until one of the above criteria is met.
I think bucks have a solid roster but I think they need to be more creative on how they use that roster each game depending on who they play. Against knicks maybe make sure Giannis is always on floor when towns is on floor. And instead of trying to stop Brunson focus on stopping everyone else. Don’t over help when he penetrates and let him take 30 mid range jumpers. If he scores 60 and Giannis slows down towns and the other bucks limit the other 6 Knick players I would like to see how that turns out. Point is they have the talent but it needs to be used differently each game depending on the match up.
As much as I agree with Gilbert Arenas, he is right about the Bucks. It's just Giannis and Dame taking turns on offence. No weak side actions are tun, no off-ball movement, not cuts, no dives. Just standing at the three point line. Dame turnovers were HORRIBLE today.
We don’t even NEED the actions. If we have FIVE threats on the floor, that’d make it so everyone can play 1v1 and as soon as we get 1 blow by any help D leads to open looks!!!
Gilbert Arenas is the same ignorant one who said Giannis should be playing off Dame. Our problem is Dame is not a point guard. He doesn't make his teammates better. His liabilities of size and lack of defense and playmaking is too much for Milwaukee to overcome nightly.
Is the team so deprived of wing defenders that Khris Middleton is their best one? Not saying that Khris is bad or anything, but I don’t ever remember him being elite. Genuinely asking, only watched a few Bucks games this year.
Hmm yes and no. I think his defense is quite underrated I’d give it a B+ or A-. Ajax will be an A+ for a couple games then start doing too much and playing bad so it’s just inconsistency from other guys and Middy is fairly steady
We REALLY need shooters and playmakers in the starting lineup (AJ or Gary for shooters and khris for playmaking) because Dame and Giannis can’t create literally everything in the game. Back when Dame was All-NBA first team with portland he usually had slow centers like brook lopez and then playmakers (McCollum) and shooters in Seth Curry, Rodney Hood, Gary Trent etc. Lineups like this also usually work for Giannis. The starting 5 should be Dame, Gary, Khris, Giannis, Brook, AJ and Bobby first off the bench.
Giannis is very front on from the free throw line if u look at dame and other good ft shooters they move their feet to 45 degrees he should try a more side on approach
I won’t say Middleton is our second best player but he is what put this franchise on the map in addition to Giannis. The bucks giving up on him is so lazy and poor thinking
You can't play drop coverage against jalen brunson. Watch jb's highlights he is abusing Lopez directly or indirectly. Get an athletic big, teach him and giannis to hedge out in pnrolls. our offense is not bad, lillard could be more consistent
if we really need to change the rotation drastically to win against big gun I think we need to trade Damian Lillard. With the assets Bucks have it is very difficult to get game changing players in.
Our roster is the problem, the fact that we are starting Taurence Prince when he wouldn't be starting on any other team is just proof of that. But given that we are a 2nd apron team, and Horst doesn't seem to understand talent, it's going to be difficult to get the players we need, we have no choice to but work with what we have. We started K-Middy against Brooklyn and Portland, it was awful, I guess we no choice to go back to Khris since we can't rely on Dame being our only shot creator. Yes we definitely need to be starting Gary Trent at SG.
@@barrettsbucksbreakdown2446 The roster is bad outside of our 3 best players. Outside of Khris, none of our wings are starter material, and Khris is on the decline too which makes the situation worse. When it comes to front court depth, we could have gotten someone like Paul Reed and that would have made a big difference, because he's everything Bobby and Brook isn't; a mobile big who's sold defensively with good fundamentals, and doesn't look to iso. Against good teams we need depth and we just simply don't have enough. The thing is in our situation, Doc is not a guy who plays young players, the fact that he's almost tried the entire roster, is just proof he's looking for anyone who can help. There is a lot of hidden gems in the NBA that teams are not playing for some odd reason. Take Jared Rhoden for example, he's a solid two-way guard, I followed him in Seton Hall, and he played well with the Pistons when Monty was experimenting with rotations, now he's with the Raptors...well the g-league team. We have to sign those type of players when they get cut.
Khris is not the best wing defender wtf. Also Ajax has the best defensive field goal percentage of all the starters so maybe do some research before you talk about his apparently non existent defense?
I been saying this from the start. The Dame trade made Milwaukee worst. Dame liabilities is killing our team nightly. Notice Giannis is thrown off when Dame runs the offense. We need a true playmaker who can get our scorers involved. Instead of them looking lost out there wondering when the hell Dame gonna pass the ball
Dame has been trying to play playmaker a lot recently, no one is just waiting for Dame to pass he honestly hasn’t even been playing iso ball that much recently which is pretty rare. The problem is doc doesn’t know how to run sets or offenses at all so it just turns into spamming pick and rolls
Idk why we’re talking about dame and turn overs. Most of those came when the game was already over. We couldn’t defend, it’s that simple. We got into the bonus early, Brunson did whatever he wanted with both AJ and Ajax on him, and then KAT might as well not have even seen Brook or Bobby there because he scored every time he put his head down. The defense has always been the issue, not the offense. The offense is not creative and stagnant sure, that’s true, but that’s not the issue. The Knicks put mikal bridges on dame all night to hound him, and then we put AJ green on Brunson? Elite teams have a great defender who can spend 100% of their energy making it tough for the other guards and then come down and hit a 3 when called upon. We don’t have that. We don’t deny anything, we let them get pain penetration with no resistance, and Bobby is possibly the worst defender at his position in the league. The khris stuff is all secondary. Move Bobby and Pat for some actual help, until then this is all moot. There’s no point analyzing it. It’s either move them for what this team needs or 1st round exit. Coaching isn’t gonna change it.
Rivers is a bad coach, trying to play like Celtics a disaster. Got all these low post players standing behind the 3-point line. It seems like every Giannis driving layup leads to a dunk or open 3 for the other team. Post up portis, lopez, and middleton early, use players strengths.
Just remember Bucks signed that nut job Pat Beverely last season, and Cameron Payne killed the bucks this game, you cant fix things with bad GM and a coach that don't know crap, and Middleton belongs on Bench till he can play 40 minutes without a week off. Middleton was babied so long - stop pretending he healthy. Yea Middleton was plus 1, but does that mean Bucks win by 1 if he plays 48 minutes?
If Middleton is on accommodations he shouldn’t start, 25 minutes don’t cut it, unless Dame willing to come off bench starting Middleton is wasted minutes of him or dame standing around 3 line.
Stop with the Doc Rivers bs. Kenny Atkinson wasn't going no better maybe even worst. Milwaukee problem is not coaching. Its the fit of this team. No true playmaker who can get the scorers involved on the floor. And the lack of rebounding and post play by our center. The Bucks problem is Dame and Brook. Brook has to go with no questioning. Where Dame can be moved over to the shooting guard where he can focus strictly on scoring and we can bring in a big defensive playmaking point guard. Milwaukee has to do Dame like Philly did Iverson with Eric Snow. Dame is not a point guard he can't keep slowing down the tempo to his liking. Dame doesn't make 1 player on Milwaukee better. That's what true playmaker does? And people wonder why we lose games like today
Roster is flawed! Bunch of key players past their primes. Dame, Khris, Brook, Pat... Underwhelming young talents. This team is not championship caliber no matter the lineup choices.
@@Cell9074 Well, I hope I am wrong. Playoffs will prove my point. Looks like it's going to be a very tough first round against the young and hungry Orlando Magic.
I used to take a while on FTs and got in my head and shot poorly. In my experience, just not waiting forever thinking about it with your routine you might shoot better
It's Dame is y'all blind or something? Dame not a point guard. He doesn't make his teammates better. His liabilities of size, defense and playmaking is way too much for the team to overcome nightly
@@EvanV-v6d you need to be talking about Dame because when he's running the ball the team thrown off. Have you noticed Giannis free throws early on this year. Then noticed when the ball was put back in his hands when Milwaukee turned the season around. Y'all need to start paying attention
@@barrettsbucksbreakdown2446 Jrue was the point of attack on defense at the half court line. There’s an art to it. You hv to do it and think like a guard.
Right or wrong: Starting 5 needs to be Dame, Gary, Middy, Giannis, Brook
That team has no athleticism tho.
@sanjayanyasotharan8athleticism isn’t a basketball ability
U think Gary or AJ ?
right
I say we switch it up I agree our starting 5 is terrible right now
WE’VE BEEN CRYING FOR A BETTER STARTING LINEUP/“DEATH” LINEUP! All these other top teams have one. We lack one this season. You’re on point
Khris Middleton being a +1 in a game where the bucks lost by 34 is CRAZY
😂😂😂I’m saying
We just not gone talk about Middleton the past few games he’s been awful
You’re saying he’s been awful or you’re agreeing? L rage bait
@@barrettsbucksbreakdown2446 nono im saying that he did really good
@@randomperson-f5p I’m talking to the person replying lol
I like what Shaq said on TNT a few weeks back. A true contending team
1)Beats the teams they're supposed to beat
2)Dominant at home
3)Stays above .500 on the road.
The Bucks do none of the above, and can't be considered a real contender until one of the above criteria is met.
I think bucks have a solid roster but I think they need to be more creative on how they use that roster each game depending on who they play. Against knicks maybe make sure Giannis is always on floor when towns is on floor. And instead of trying to stop Brunson focus on stopping everyone else. Don’t over help when he penetrates and let him take 30 mid range jumpers. If he scores 60 and Giannis slows down towns and the other bucks limit the other 6 Knick players I would like to see how that turns out. Point is they have the talent but it needs to be used differently each game depending on the match up.
If dame throws the ball away so much how come Gianni’s averages more turnovers then dame but you give Giannis a free pass always!!!! ?
A lot of Giannis turnovers are charges/offensive fouls which are turnovers based off aggression which I don’t mind as much
As much as I agree with Gilbert Arenas, he is right about the Bucks. It's just Giannis and Dame taking turns on offence. No weak side actions are tun, no off-ball movement, not cuts, no dives. Just standing at the three point line. Dame turnovers were HORRIBLE today.
We don’t even NEED the actions. If we have FIVE threats on the floor, that’d make it so everyone can play 1v1 and as soon as we get 1 blow by any help D leads to open looks!!!
Gilbert Arenas is the same ignorant one who said Giannis should be playing off Dame. Our problem is Dame is not a point guard. He doesn't make his teammates better. His liabilities of size and lack of defense and playmaking is too much for Milwaukee to overcome nightly.
@@theetruth8626 dude you are a D1 Dame hater
@Tactician-r1x dude u hate facing reality.
I@@theetruth8626 if you wanna talk about reality only thing killing this buck team is doc rivers
Is the team so deprived of wing defenders that Khris Middleton is their best one? Not saying that Khris is bad or anything, but I don’t ever remember him being elite.
Genuinely asking, only watched a few Bucks games this year.
Hmm yes and no. I think his defense is quite underrated I’d give it a B+ or A-. Ajax will be an A+ for a couple games then start doing too much and playing bad so it’s just inconsistency from other guys and Middy is fairly steady
We REALLY need shooters and playmakers in the starting lineup (AJ or Gary for shooters and khris for playmaking) because Dame and Giannis can’t create literally everything in the game. Back when Dame was All-NBA first team with portland he usually had slow centers like brook lopez and then playmakers (McCollum) and shooters in Seth Curry, Rodney Hood, Gary Trent etc. Lineups like this also usually work for Giannis. The starting 5 should be Dame, Gary, Khris, Giannis, Brook, AJ and Bobby first off the bench.
W ball knowledge
Giannis is very front on from the free throw line if u look at dame and other good ft shooters they move their feet to 45 degrees he should try a more side on approach
Jackson jr shouldn’t even be playing much minutes let alone starting (he isn’t even playing that much minutes so why in the world is he starting)
Who’s going to start over him
By far the most overrated player on the squad
Middleton our second best player? Hell no😂
Yeah he lost all credibility with that
Absolute unserious. Can't take any if your takes seriously if you truly think Middleton is better than Dame. That's blasphemy
@@niramganem3645 facts
I won’t say Middleton is our second best player but he is what put this franchise on the map in addition to Giannis. The bucks giving up on him is so lazy and poor thinking
Once he said Middleton are 2nd best player had no respect of what he says
I often wonder how many points would Giannis average if all those carry and travel he does were to be called? 🤔🤔🤔
I like
Dame
Aj
Middleton
Giannis
Lopez
Bench
I like Trent with a green light
Bobby
Prince
Andre for specific assignments
Yeah the more I think about it the more you might be right. The amount of open looks AJ could get could be scary
yes, we instantly become a more serious team and vamos
You can't play drop coverage against jalen brunson. Watch jb's highlights he is abusing Lopez directly or indirectly. Get an athletic big, teach him and giannis to hedge out in pnrolls. our offense is not bad, lillard could be more consistent
Why don't they hire you as the head coach?
The Darvin Ham effect 😂
Prince not a starter. Bucks did the usual chasing players overrated role players from good teams.
Old and slow. Khris is Old. Brook is Old. Bobby is slow. And all of them can't guard fast players.
One of these things is not like the others
From the outside looking in that’s the Bucks biggest problem, just a lot of slow players who get significant minutes
if we really need to change the rotation drastically to win against big gun I think we need to trade Damian Lillard. With the assets Bucks have it is very difficult to get game changing players in.
No one can guard Brunson ..
It okay to loose don't always panic man 😊
😔 we could be so much better than this
@barrettsbucksbreakdown2446 I understand bruh
Our roster is the problem, the fact that we are starting Taurence Prince when he wouldn't be starting on any other team is just proof of that. But given that we are a 2nd apron team, and Horst doesn't seem to understand talent, it's going to be difficult to get the players we need, we have no choice to but work with what we have. We started K-Middy against Brooklyn and Portland, it was awful, I guess we no choice to go back to Khris since we can't rely on Dame being our only shot creator. Yes we definitely need to be starting Gary Trent at SG.
Bro he won 2/3 without Giannis and Dame. The growing pains are worth it for when it clicks. There is no version of this current 5 that works
@@barrettsbucksbreakdown2446 The roster is bad outside of our 3 best players. Outside of Khris, none of our wings are starter material, and Khris is on the decline too which makes the situation worse. When it comes to front court depth, we could have gotten someone like Paul Reed and that would have made a big difference, because he's everything Bobby and Brook isn't; a mobile big who's sold defensively with good fundamentals, and doesn't look to iso. Against good teams we need depth and we just simply don't have enough.
The thing is in our situation, Doc is not a guy who plays young players, the fact that he's almost tried the entire roster, is just proof he's looking for anyone who can help. There is a lot of hidden gems in the NBA that teams are not playing for some odd reason. Take Jared Rhoden for example, he's a solid two-way guard, I followed him in Seton Hall, and he played well with the Pistons when Monty was experimenting with rotations, now he's with the Raptors...well the g-league team. We have to sign those type of players when they get cut.
What a bad day to live in Winconsin😭
Sucks to see Boston Cleveland NYK keep beating us
🤷♂️
Pacers just thumped the Cavs too
Giannis should do a jump shot for FTs
After that game it may put pressure on Horst to pull the trigger on the Butler trade and guess whos gone..😂
Khris is not the best wing defender wtf. Also Ajax has the best defensive field goal percentage of all the starters so maybe do some research before you talk about his apparently non existent defense?
Disagree. He’s our most disciplined, savvy and in position. Defensive rating backs it up I don’t see anyone playing his level defense
Please wake up and realize the problem is, mostly, Dame. No defense, no play-making
Nope
if anything Dame too much playmaking, he has open 3s and passes to another open player- stupid
I been saying this from the start. The Dame trade made Milwaukee worst. Dame liabilities is killing our team nightly. Notice Giannis is thrown off when Dame runs the offense. We need a true playmaker who can get our scorers involved. Instead of them looking lost out there wondering when the hell Dame gonna pass the ball
Dame has been trying to play playmaker a lot recently, no one is just waiting for Dame to pass he honestly hasn’t even been playing iso ball that much recently which is pretty rare. The problem is doc doesn’t know how to run sets or offenses at all so it just turns into spamming pick and rolls
We could get around that if we had 5 threats offensively but yeah it’s all bad
Bruh we can't get around nothing if the playmaking is bad. That's our problem we got scorers but no playmaker to get these guys involved.
People need to quit blaming the coaches. These players have bad habits and refuses to change.
Idk why we’re talking about dame and turn overs. Most of those came when the game was already over. We couldn’t defend, it’s that simple. We got into the bonus early, Brunson did whatever he wanted with both AJ and Ajax on him, and then KAT might as well not have even seen Brook or Bobby there because he scored every time he put his head down.
The defense has always been the issue, not the offense. The offense is not creative and stagnant sure, that’s true, but that’s not the issue. The Knicks put mikal bridges on dame all night to hound him, and then we put AJ green on Brunson? Elite teams have a great defender who can spend 100% of their energy making it tough for the other guards and then come down and hit a 3 when called upon. We don’t have that. We don’t deny anything, we let them get pain penetration with no resistance, and Bobby is possibly the worst defender at his position in the league.
The khris stuff is all secondary. Move Bobby and Pat for some actual help, until then this is all moot. There’s no point analyzing it. It’s either move them for what this team needs or 1st round exit. Coaching isn’t gonna change it.
Like I said before trade everyone that is tradable 😅 the sooner they start to rebuild from scratch the better we will be in the future😅
Khris is best is to be the sixth man play 2X minutes and close up the games w him so he can also carry the bench
I’d agree maybe if we traded Bobby
We can’t have teams beat us like we stole something period 🤦♂️
They def need to move some ppl around . Trade Portis pat kmidd lol
L
So the Knicks own us but we’re still a good team
And the Celtics and the Cavs. Not good
Kris/brook/lopez/pat someone’s got to be traded !!!
The Middleton cap number would bring in depth. He’s not outplaying a frontline player. And for the +1 people he’s doing v the 2nd line.
So they're just completely forget how to play basketball right after in season tour 😂
Rivers is a bad coach, trying to play like Celtics a disaster. Got all these low post players standing behind the 3-point line. It seems like every Giannis driving layup leads to a dunk or open 3 for the other team. Post up portis, lopez, and middleton early, use players strengths.
in my opinion TP is not a starter, i will start AJGreen instead or GTJ...
He’s an 8th man. I like AJ as a spark plug but I’d accept that
You might be right tho
Did you just see AJ Green getting torched by everybody.
Just remember Bucks signed that nut job Pat Beverely last season, and Cameron Payne killed the bucks this game, you cant fix things with bad GM and a coach that don't know crap, and Middleton belongs on Bench till he can play 40 minutes without a week off. Middleton was babied so long - stop pretending he healthy. Yea Middleton was plus 1, but does that mean Bucks win by 1 if he plays 48 minutes?
It means we play a lot better when he’s on the floor
If Middleton is on accommodations he shouldn’t start, 25 minutes don’t cut it, unless Dame willing to come off bench starting Middleton is wasted minutes of him or dame standing around 3 line.
Stop with the Doc Rivers bs. Kenny Atkinson wasn't going no better maybe even worst. Milwaukee problem is not coaching. Its the fit of this team. No true playmaker who can get the scorers involved on the floor. And the lack of rebounding and post play by our center. The Bucks problem is Dame and Brook. Brook has to go with no questioning. Where Dame can be moved over to the shooting guard where he can focus strictly on scoring and we can bring in a big defensive playmaking point guard. Milwaukee has to do Dame like Philly did Iverson with Eric Snow. Dame is not a point guard he can't keep slowing down the tempo to his liking. Dame doesn't make 1 player on Milwaukee better. That's what true playmaker does? And people wonder why we lose games like today
Doc Rivers is objectively an awful coach, no way you can’t see that in these games.
Why don't we just start AJ Green Bean
🤷♂️
the Bucks are too inconsistent and have no clear identity at best we are a play in team 5-8 seed
Honestly i can't disagree with you. Do you think we should trade someone?
Bobby if there’s a good deal but I don’t think the roster is the issue
Roster is flawed! Bunch of key players past their primes. Dame, Khris, Brook, Pat... Underwhelming young talents. This team is not championship caliber no matter the lineup choices.
You’re thinking lazily
That would imply he’s thinking at all
@@Cell9074 Well, I hope I am wrong. Playoffs will prove my point. Looks like it's going to be a very tough first round against the young and hungry Orlando Magic.
@barrettsbucksbreakdown2446 Hopefully, the Sacremento Kings will get my mind right tomorrow night.
É brincadeira Jackson e Prince começarem jogando o Prince deveria ficar no banco com o Delon e não sair dela 😂😂😂
🦅 Night Night... Jordan love more like Jordan Poole 😂(Not an eagles fan btw I’m just a hater)
Giannis should jump on his free throws
I used to take a while on FTs and got in my head and shot poorly. In my experience, just not waiting forever thinking about it with your routine you might shoot better
It's Dame is y'all blind or something? Dame not a point guard. He doesn't make his teammates better. His liabilities of size, defense and playmaking is way too much for the team to overcome nightly
@@theetruth8626 we’re not even talking about Dame here 0/10 rage bait
@@EvanV-v6d you need to be talking about Dame because when he's running the ball the team thrown off. Have you noticed Giannis free throws early on this year. Then noticed when the ball was put back in his hands when Milwaukee turned the season around. Y'all need to start paying attention
Middleton dosent play good defense either all he does is foul
Ngl we were a great defense for years with Middleton starting
Hard to watch
Painful
Dame for butler, swap players
Awful idea
Who plays point?
You don't know basketball
Hell no
Matisse Thybulle
?
Trade for him as a point of attack defender. But Not for your guy
@@emmanuelleverette3447 why do yall keep repeating this point of attack thing lol and doc already had him didn’t play him. He’s just older Ajax
@@barrettsbucksbreakdown2446 Jrue was the point of attack on defense at the half court line. There’s an art to it. You hv to do it and think like a guard.
It was painful to watch live... I hate myself paying for that..
I got tickets and sold em. I’m so glad I did.
Bro just banned me for saying let you speak🤣,, some people just can't hear and digest facts barrett
@@HeinrichHimmler-u8c yeah..dude is very emotional lmao
@@HeinrichHimmler-u8c which I am too but not about my ego more about my Bucks 🤣😭
@@barrettsbucksbreakdown2446 exactly g
+1 says he’s effective in that bench role.
Trade dame! Lazy player!
For who
You like Bills, Bucks, and who are your fav baseball team?
Don’t watch baseball
What a bad day to live in Winconsin😭