A lot of commentors don't know those are track/race pads. The are made to take a beaten like that and actually perform better under extreme temps which why you don't use them for driving on the street/ daily driver. They won't get hot enough to be effective.
You were doing some really good speed being impatient with brake-in. Plus, those rotors are TINY for a track car, it's a no wonder they heated to that level.
This is not hot spotting. As long as the disks are produced with no residual stress they will not warp when heated evenly. Setting them on fire nontheless seems to be a bad idea and i wouldve jumped right back in to let them cool down
Hi mate. You obviously have a good amount of experience buying cars. I am just looking for some advice in buying a Golf GTI 14 plate and newer but I want to get a good deal with a cash buy. Any recommendations?
Great vid but why would you put Endless on an ST? Are they not like the most expensive pads you can get? Would Carbotech/ Project Mu/ CL/ etc etc not suffice? My Fiesta ST has Greenstuff lol !
Good stuff Steve I’ve got to change mine soon I’m so worried about the whole that it’s going to leave in my pocket 😔😂 better to b safe than sorry tho buddy good video as always nice cooler 🔥🔥
Did I hear right, you had the brake ducts blocked with rags? Is it something about these pads that you have to cook them so badly? Normally pads get bedded in by driving gently.
Bandicoot your flogging a dead horse just give up. The brakes and pads got battered on track with no issues at all. You can invent as many issues as you want in your head but that's where they stay. In your head.
@@Sparkplugsteve I already did give up hope that you'll ever be able to understand the severity of your reckless behavior on public roads. But trust me, one day you will - only when it's too late and you can't avoid the tree you're about to hit, and your prized possession will crush you internally like a bug someone ( maybe me ) stepped on! But what the heck, life goes on - without your st00pid self. End of story!
@@Bandicoot803 What the hell are you talking about? I think you have spent too long in your parents basement. Stop pretending you know anything about the brake system on this car and go back to making lame half life voices for your navman you virgin
Was curious if there would be any info here maybe pertaining to if the break fluid actually did boil don’t know to to much about cars.....what I got was a heated ass comment thread hahah jeez man
@@johngorman4555 It,s caused by boiling the brake fluid, thats why if you put Nurburg ring on at w/eds all the Beemers spinning out.they,ve cooked the fluid.
Just a word of warning i guess, following your track day in silly temps, I upgraded to a airtek stage 3 for snetterton a couple of weeks ago. Temp was 34degrees, intake temps were fine, but the coolant temps went through the roof. I had to pull the drill out to get enough airflow. So either remove the grill or shave the back of it and that should solve your issues
@@terbor33 haha I see. So you hadn't shaved yours then. Fortunately it's very rare we see over 30 degrees. Where the bars in the dash going higher than 4 or were you monitoring temps? Thanks.
10 hard stops and get discs over 350c. I did lose count and do about 15 stops. I doubt they reccomend catching them on fire but the pads are rated to run perfect up to 800c.
Who said you have to bed disc pads in , i mind of my dad bedding in old drum brakes , so that when you apply brake , the shoes touch the drum all the way along length of shoes, the full 100% as the cylinder is only at top of backing disc,that was on trucks or cars , once they bed in you re-adjusted the shoe clearance, disc pads don,t pivot on anything , thus elimenating the need to bed in , as they come on square to the disc , normal driving and braking for a few miles will guarntee a dead flat contact. all your doing is wasteing money, excessive heat warps discs, cooks brake fluid causing soft spongy crap braking , and excessive wear of pads. Or is it ceramic pads , that have to be pretty warm. As it,s a st fiesta i don,t think it merits brakes like that. you only see brakes like that on supercars. Retired trade.
OK il try and keep it simple. You bed a race pad in because the pad contacting just the disc is not effective enough. The bedding in process leaves a transfer layer of brake pad material on the disc. So when you brake the friction is higher as the pad is braking against its own compound rather than the metal. If you don't understand why I'm using a pad like this it's probably because you have never driven a fiesta st hard on track or done any track driving.
Hahahahaa thank god you hooked up the go pro! Steve do you know the pads arent semetrical? As in there are inner and outer pads, I got caught out once and had the same issue that the pads were only making contact with half the disc
This is beyond dumb. Yes, you can overheat brakes. That's a pretty trivial finding. Getting the discs glowing and then stopping is him getting even more stupid. That takes any sort of cooling air away so it just bakes and let's all that heat go straight into the calipers (time for new seals) and hub (fresh wheel bearing grease anyone?). Do not be this guy.
@@Sparkplugsteve I realise it easy for me to say being able see the wheel. Suprised you did not hear it. What explains the sparks and flames the pad material? Also not easy to bed race pads in on public roads as basically you need to break speed limit and allow to cool while moving without using brakes ideally.
Cast iron / steel doesn’t melt until over ~ 1200 degrees Celsius depending on the composition. But when they get red / near to white they will start softening.
You know that by using "Cheap Chinese Crafted Crap" parts you're not only putting your own life in jeopardy, but other persons around you, too? How in the world can you ever sleep comfortably again after having run over a pre-school-aged child due to poorly manufactured brake pads? Next time, invest a fistful of bucks in some decent roadworthy parts!
@@Sparkplugsteve £340 for pads that catch on fire easily, really? Still, a safety hazard you can't deny! I'm doing 50'000 Km ( 32'000 UK miles ) per annum with LUCAS brake pads with mixed ( regional / long-distance ) journeys on a daily basis with frequent stops. Never had any problems with them to this day. And they're not as eXpens!ve as your CCCC!
These are the best race pads money can buy for this car. Even when on fire they will still perform better than most pads. They have a heat rating up to about 800 degrees off memory. I got them to 450 and that's the temps I get them too on track also. I don't car for how many miles I get this car is for the race track so enduring heat is all I care about.
Let's see if they are up to temp, gets out , ah they are on fire lol
After working in the trade I've never seen anyone bed in brakes like that. Quick way to get warped discs and seized calipers.
I'm assuming your not in The racing car trade then.? Watch the vid I uploaded a few minutes ago. It will. Answer your comment.👍
Not the racing game. Just watched the latest video, genuinely surprised the disks aren’t warped. Fair play to you 👍
@@Wetthewhistle thanks for watching it.
This played out well
This is actually the bed in procedure for ebc race pads.
But, probably not to this degree.
Flames tell you your using them properly 👍🏻😂
Ah, thank you for getting it on camera! I never have managed to capture it.
-- Braking systems are a lot of fun.
I love the smell of hot brakes in the morning 🔥🔥🔥
A lot of commentors don't know those are track/race pads. The are made to take a beaten like that and actually perform better under extreme temps which why you don't use them for driving on the street/ daily driver. They won't get hot enough to be effective.
ironic. youd think racing pads would be more effective...
"put the camera there to hopefully get some signs of heat". More than you expected!!!
You were doing some really good speed being impatient with brake-in. Plus, those rotors are TINY for a track car, it's a no wonder they heated to that level.
Yeah, them brake pads are bedding in Steve, haha.
Oooo think they've warmed up!
We’re on fire boys 😂😂😂💃🏻
Cooked alive never have I seen that before I’m absolutely gob smacked. I just bed mine in normal road use for 1000 miles 😉👍🏻👌🏻
I do not recommend this way of bedding in at all. Bad thing totally 😳😳😳😳😳😳
@@APRILIA250STACE You clearly have no experience with race pads buddy
i thought when bedding in brakes its suppoed to be done gently for like 50-100 miles? not slamming brakes on as you can warp the discs?!
Top job again Steve! Good to see the videos back again. Interested to the results of that monster intercooler! :)
Cracking video again! This is how i bed them at work 🤫.
Goodbye wheel bearings
Do you hold you break down lightly until you drop down speed or what
What’s with the sparking at the start
Steve you are a legend!
I had Ferodo pads and they killed a set of discs in 1 and a half track days. Using PBS ones next time.
I don't think braking in brakes are done like that, they be knackered for sure, hot spotting them discs like that will destroy them
Don't worry their fine. I answered this at the end of the vid.👍
This is not hot spotting. As long as the disks are produced with no residual stress they will not warp when heated evenly. Setting them on fire nontheless seems to be a bad idea and i wouldve jumped right back in to let them cool down
Is break bedding done after car gets off assembly line or how is it done with new cars
Race pads are not comparable to road pads.
Are road pads required bedding then?
@@habebs7345 they don't need the heat cycles of a race pads. Most you just drive as normal and they bed themselves over the first few hundred miles
Bed them in, not burn them in!
really that much to bed them in surprised disks are not warped
Hi mate. You obviously have a good amount of experience buying cars. I am just looking for some advice in buying a Golf GTI 14 plate and newer but I want to get a good deal with a cash buy. Any recommendations?
Hi thanks for watching my Videos but I Can't offer any advice to Be honest. I know Nothing about them Cars.
Spark Plug Steve ah no worries mate thanks anyway. Think I’m gonna give bca car auctions a bash see if there’s anything decent
Why were they sparking from the first time you pressed the brake pedal?
Because of the race compound in them. Not sure exactly but its either metal content or ceramics.
Great vid but why would you put Endless on an ST? Are they not like the most expensive pads you can get? Would Carbotech/ Project Mu/ CL/ etc etc not suffice? My Fiesta ST has Greenstuff lol !
I wanted the best for track use and they have been great so far. Thanks
@@Sparkplugsteve Well fair play to you Sir. Mad as a bag of frogs but that's a good thing now and again. Love it.
Good stuff Steve I’ve got to change mine soon I’m so worried about the whole that it’s going to leave in my pocket 😔😂 better to b safe than sorry tho buddy good video as always nice cooler 🔥🔥
Question. What about your hubs? When rotors are so HOT what about hubs? Can those take that much heat?
It's fine. They have silicone seals. Most of the heat goes into the wheel.
my brakes caught on fire today
Fair play m8
Did I hear right, you had the brake ducts blocked with rags? Is it something about these pads that you have to cook them so badly?
Normally pads get bedded in by driving gently.
Yeh their race pads so need it get hot
Top video thanks for sharing
😳 Incredible 😳
Still a good video and this isn't far behind carbon ceramics used on the big boys
A spongy pedal, you may have boiled some fluid.
@Paul Griffins: And roasted all O-rings aswell, allowing the brake fluid to leak out and burn away! There goes his safety net!
Bandicoot your flogging a dead horse just give up. The brakes and pads got battered on track with no issues at all. You can invent as many issues as you want in your head but that's where they stay. In your head.
@@Sparkplugsteve I already did give up hope that you'll ever be able to understand the severity of your reckless behavior on public roads. But trust me, one day you will - only when it's too late and you can't avoid the tree you're about to hit, and your prized possession will crush you internally like a bug someone ( maybe me ) stepped on! But what the heck, life goes on - without your st00pid self. End of story!
@@Bandicoot803 What the hell are you talking about? I think you have spent too long in your parents basement. Stop pretending you know anything about the brake system on this car and go back to making lame half life voices for your navman you virgin
Was curious if there would be any info here maybe pertaining to if the break fluid actually did boil don’t know to to much about cars.....what I got was a heated ass comment thread hahah jeez man
Wow. I’ve got new performance disks and pads to put in my scooby. This makes me think I should film them for my channel too!!
Yeh get it done.
Bloody hellfire...!
It would be worth connecting your go pro to your phone via WiFi, then you could monitor the bedding in from inside while driving.
My go Pro was recording me so only put a cheap sjcam on the outside.
@@Sparkplugsteve Oh OK. I suppose I shouldn't have assumed either camera was a GoPro either, there are plenty of clone GoPro's available nowadays.
IMO good brakes. They didn't fade at high temps
When people refers to the brake 'fading', what does it mean? You press the brake hard and the car struggle to stop?
@@alhambra792 fade is a reduction in stopping power that can occur after repeated braking in high load or high speed conditions
@@johngorman4555 and this usually happen when the brake temp is too high am i rite?
@@johngorman4555 It,s caused by boiling the brake fluid, thats why if you put Nurburg ring on at w/eds all the Beemers spinning out.they,ve cooked the fluid.
@@alhambra792 Bang on the button.
Pretty sure you're not supposed to come to a complete stop when the disks are that hot!
No your not. I Made an Error in The pursuit of a thumnail.
@@Sparkplugsteve keep up the good work Steve. It would be nice to see some more salvage repair👍
it is fully normal, it burns the paint of the brake pad.
Hey Steve hows it goin good video brakes were getting a good work out there 😂 keep up the videos
Just a word of warning i guess, following your track day in silly temps, I upgraded to a airtek stage 3 for snetterton a couple of weeks ago. Temp was 34degrees, intake temps were fine, but the coolant temps went through the roof. I had to pull the drill out to get enough airflow. So either remove the grill or shave the back of it and that should solve your issues
Iv shaved the back of the grill off. What did you drill out? Behind number plate area?
@@Sparkplugsteve Sorry should be i pulled the grill out. If youve shaved the grill out then you should be alright
@@terbor33 haha I see. So you hadn't shaved yours then. Fortunately it's very rare we see over 30 degrees. Where the bars in the dash going higher than 4 or were you monitoring temps? Thanks.
It's like a little Welsh dragon had been breathing on your disks.
Great reaction from you though 👍 dâ iawn boi
Steve, next time your in yobbos, don't put Bruce Springsteen on so loud, your brakes are getting the wrong message, "woooohh I'm on fire"
“I’m just going jump out and see what temp were at”... I’d say HOT HOTT 😂
Always good to see your videos dude 👌
Haha fuck it mate, you ain't the first, and won't be the last to set your brakes on fire. ;)
I've gotta get me some of these, they really seem to pull the car up well, cheers Steve.
Better the smell of burning brakes than Steve's fart in the last video !
Haha.
Flametastic!
to bed them in you just really should drive them normally for a thousand miles or so....
Road pads yes but not race pads.
Epic steve luv it.....🤓😋👌
I'm sure your rotors are warped now and the fluid boiled, :-D
Is that how Endless say to bed them in?
10 hard stops and get discs over 350c. I did lose count and do about 15 stops. I doubt they reccomend catching them on fire but the pads are rated to run perfect up to 800c.
@@Sparkplugsteve what about your discs , are they titanium .
@@douglastodd1947 yes they are.
This guy is 9+10=21
Top draw footage again 😊
Hi nice video but did u know u can break your rotors if this happens be careful ✌🏼
Just a quick question do you have to treat your wife to nice presents as my wife would go mad with me doing things like this to my car great video
She's very tolerant of my hobbies.😊
Was the explanation for the Chanel or to smooth things with the better half lol (;
Who said you have to bed disc pads in , i mind of my dad bedding in old drum brakes , so that when you apply brake , the shoes touch the drum all the way along length of shoes, the full 100% as the cylinder is only at top of backing disc,that was on trucks or cars , once they bed in you re-adjusted the shoe clearance, disc pads don,t pivot on anything , thus elimenating the need to bed in , as they come on square to the disc , normal driving and braking for a few miles will guarntee a dead flat contact. all your doing is wasteing money, excessive heat warps discs, cooks brake fluid causing soft spongy crap braking , and excessive wear of pads. Or is it ceramic pads , that have to be pretty warm. As it,s a st fiesta i don,t think it merits brakes like that. you only see brakes like that on supercars. Retired trade.
OK il try and keep it simple. You bed a race pad in because the pad contacting just the disc is not effective enough. The bedding in process leaves a transfer layer of brake pad material on the disc. So when you brake the friction is higher as the pad is braking against its own compound rather than the metal. If you don't understand why I'm using a pad like this it's probably because you have never driven a fiesta st hard on track or done any track driving.
Great video never disappoint in your content you share mate 👍
Thank you Ray
Hmm the brake is doffrent compare to BMW the bmw one gets on fire like unless if u go fast it will be gone
Hahahahaa thank god you hooked up the go pro! Steve do you know the pads arent semetrical? As in there are inner and outer pads, I got caught out once and had the same issue that the pads were only making contact with half the disc
Yes but endless pads are not like that. Their not sided.
Hi Steve
Very Donna Summer.
I feel sorry for the engine. I know how much pain it suffers in this case while it trying to find a way out of its power
needs more heat
Because race car!!!!!!!
This is beyond dumb. Yes, you can overheat brakes. That's a pretty trivial finding. Getting the discs glowing and then stopping is him getting even more stupid. That takes any sort of cooling air away so it just bakes and let's all that heat go straight into the calipers (time for new seals) and hub (fresh wheel bearing grease anyone?).
Do not be this guy.
I was wondering if your rotors could handle all that friction 😂😂 rotor upgrade planned Steve???
Not yet. These are fine for now.
Damn dude. Hot spots much??
Bloody hell steve surely that can’t be doing your wheels any good 🤔
sorry to say but u have to have really bad brake cooling
Something is not right, why are the brakes spitting sparks and flames. You must of heard something was wrong
Nothing was wrong because their race pads. And no could hear nothing.
@@Sparkplugsteve I realise it easy for me to say being able see the wheel. Suprised you did not hear it. What explains the sparks and flames the pad material?
Also not easy to bed race pads in on public roads as basically you need to break speed limit and allow to cool while moving without using brakes ideally.
Thats not the way to bed in brakes, warped discs and cooked pads???
How have they not warped 🤯
discs don't warp very often and can glow red without distortion
Theres glowing red and theres startin to turn molton lol
Cast iron / steel doesn’t melt until over ~ 1200 degrees Celsius depending on the composition.
But when they get red / near to white they will start softening.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂👍
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How to warp your discs 101
You know that by using "Cheap Chinese Crafted Crap" parts you're not only putting your own life in jeopardy, but other persons around you, too? How in the world can you ever sleep comfortably again after having run over a pre-school-aged child due to poorly manufactured brake pads? Next time, invest a fistful of bucks in some decent roadworthy parts!
Lol Google how much endless me22 brake pads cost and come back to me.
@@Sparkplugsteve £340 for pads that catch on fire easily, really? Still, a safety hazard you can't deny! I'm doing 50'000 Km ( 32'000 UK miles ) per annum with LUCAS brake pads with mixed ( regional / long-distance ) journeys on a daily basis with frequent stops. Never had any problems with them to this day. And they're not as eXpens!ve as your CCCC!
These are the best race pads money can buy for this car. Even when on fire they will still perform better than most pads. They have a heat rating up to about 800 degrees off memory. I got them to 450 and that's the temps I get them too on track also. I don't car for how many miles I get this car is for the race track so enduring heat is all I care about.
@@Sparkplugsteve However, stay away from public roads in near and far future with this setup asking for disaster!
Your Lack of knowledge and understanding is just baffling to me. Your more danger on a keyboard than I ever will be in a car.
OH DEAR