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The best patch Honkai Star Rail has ever offered! 🎉 Why do you ask? Because I can skip it with no regrets and save for Feixiao and Moze in 2.5. Still I know there's gonna be people who'll want to pull for either Black Swan or Huohuo, so good luck to them. 👍
really good video, thanks a lot. Now i'm going to get Black Swan in her first rerun since i missed her first appearance where i thought she is kinda mid and oh boy was i wrong 😂 now that i have Acheron she will definitely be bis for my team if i add her to my Kafka and HuoHuo or my e6 Galagher this team will be fine forever, like Firefly, Ruan Mei, HMC and Galagher.
I’m rolling for Yunli cuz I’m honestly sick of super break and her play style is just flat out fun. I’ve always like counter mechanics in games so Yunli is basically a must roll for me. I’ve seen the 2.5 characters and honestly only Moze and Feixiao pique my interest. Huohouo is good but I already got by mistake and Acheron does good dmg without both BS and Jiaqiou so those are easy skips for me.
In my opinion, judging by today's meta I would rank them like this: Hou Huo > Yunli > Black Swan > Jiao Qiu Having Huo Huo and her signature LC is both night and day for newer players, being able to slot into any team. Having the best cleanse and pseudo harmony buff. Yunli is basically Clara 2.0 but more DMG and consistent taunt value than Clara. Most of her DMG comes from her ult and requires good timing for bigger DMG. She also benefits from the newest 4pc relic set and 2pc set. Black Swan is consistent within the DoT meta and can also be used in Acheron's team to stack def shred, if u don't have Silver Wolf, equipping the new JQ's sig LC that brings more supportive value. JQ is apparently the biggest loser in patch 2.4. After countless changes, he was nerfed to be just a slightly better Guinaifen or Pela. It was a bad idea to give him DoT and balance him from that, when he was just meant to be Acheron's support. He initially had stack def shred and minor heal in his kit until Hoyoverse decided to scrap that idea and focus more on stacking vulnerability debuff. Sadly, the favoritism towards him from the community fade away.
What do you think about Black Swan dmg dealing potential?I’m just come back to the game and grab Firefly for my main dps.But don’t have any secondary for my second team only Clara/Herta…So I need a dps/dmg dealing unit to my secondary team that in some way universal too.But idk about Black Swan dmg is enough to climb higher in MOC and pure fiction or the apocalyptic shadow.The other characters don’t get my interest except only Houhou but I have a Fu Xuang and I don’t feel the need to a secondary sustain more like a nice dps.
@@Reggaement Hmm, if u want sole DPS in ur situation, then I suggest u wait for FeiXiao. 🖤 🦢 is more of a sub-dps than a main DPS for Kafka's DoT team. Her personal DMG is decent but not gasping type like the metas we have today. U don't see anymore DoT teams go 0 cycle anymore these patches. I don't think FeiXiao will disappoint ftp players. If u don't mind me spoiling her kit just to let u know in advance to pre-farm her resources, She has follow up attack and she scales with crit-break hybrid. Take it with a grain of salt, as this is still subject to change. Hopefully, JQ's continuous changes and nerf shenanigans won't happen to her.
@@alenromThank you for the reply!I stick with the BS plan then!Of course if Acheron or Kafka get a rerun I get both or at least Acheron for sure so BS have a nice place in the future maybe in multiple teams too.For now just lacking a dps for my secondary team to clear the end game contents…So annoying tho.I get 3 Yanquing and the cone for him…Nit even a Himeko or Welt to deal some dmg.Only Clara and Bailu.Maybe an E2 Yanquing worth to build for moc and apocalyptic?
How is yunli not versatile when she literally works in all three end game modes with a f2p lc (Aeon) along with working with every support other than Ruan Mei. She also has a f2p aggro supp in lynx??? The only investment you need for yunli at the most is her sig LC which is the same level of investment as acheron or bh… Yunli is definitely not as good as FF or Acheron but her versatility is what makes her top 3 dps but im confused on why u said that it was her weakness.
Thing with Yunli is that all showcases put her with 2-3 supports. If you put any dps with 2-3 supports, they'll pop off too. She's an okay character, little better than Clara, that's about it. I've seen people use Yunli's Tingyun + Robin + Sparkle comp with Jade and make Jade hit for 1-2 million damage, does that make Jade strong? No, the supports are the strong element.
@@eblu3961 how is that at all a good counter point, every dps in the game is going to be using 2-3 supports, that's literally how carry comps function. Blade struggles even with great supports, yunli isn't weak without the best supports in the game so this point makes no sense. She's in the same boat as everyone else, it's just that she doesn't power creep everyone else so when compared to the last 3 dps released before jade she's considered "weaker". She's a strong character no matter how you look at it, she's simply not the absolute strongest and that's fine, it's like people are begging for more powercreep.
the thing about yunli is that is not that she's bad, but choosing to release her after acheron and firefly means barely anyone needs an extra dps it's just that there is not much she can do that the others can't and also content catered towards yunli might help acheron out too, because enemies that act more often to trigger her counter, will also act more often to trigger acheron's trend firefly users might be a little annoyed if there is a lot of enemy AF in the next moc buffs, but she's strong enough to not care
Even though he's the only character in the history of Genshin and HSR to get ONLY NERFS through the beta I'm still pulling for him. People downplay his usefulness and he's still a upgrade to Pela and Guin 🤷
yunli can ult 8 times in 1 wave btw since her ult cost is low and she gains so much energy (dealing 200k per ult) so thats a pro and also she have a over stack ult like when your ult is ready you can store extra energy (tho unlike argenti she does not get super ult dmg) so thats pro since she is easy and sp friendly dps (since she does not care if you use her skill) her skill is the fua dmg so no need to use skill no need for speed relics or stats she just want dmg and a proper sustain like huohuo luocha even bailu and lynx is good no hate
IMO black swan is just the better pick over jq even for acheron especially in PF. acheron just overkills things so she doesnt need more dmg amplification from jq but BS can do some dmg during acheron downtime and buff acheron by a bit as well.
The only thing I needed to hear: Jiaoqiu will be better for Acheron than Pela. If I can choose between a little girl with Harry Potter glasses and a sly fox man, then I don't care what comes after this pach, I'm pulling!
I feel like Yunli is really being underestimated, She's comparable to Argenti in the way she use her Ultimate and her damage potential is higher. HuoHuo is one of the best healers in the game and Black Swan is damn near mandatory for a DOT team. This banner is anything but skippable
Yeah, her skill scalings are reaaaally nuts In a single target situation, her ult bounce does 652% damage with +100% crit dmg! And she gains extra energy from being hit and counters as well, how crazy is that? But I do understand why people might not pull for her even if her dps is on par with Acheron and Firefly. First of all, unlike them she doesn't have the free all res pen/weakness implant on her kit, so she could eventually struggle against physical resistance, making her not as much of a generalist as those two. And second, for people that have Acheron already, Yunli's value could be reduced because they do share a niche. Both of them are reliant on the enemy acting for them to deal more damage, Acheron gets more stacks, Yunli gets her counters. Having two characters with similar niches isn't as valuable as having very different niches. Also, focusing on the dps chars that you already have is often the better choice, I bet too many people are more preoccupied with saving for eidolons/LCs or new support characters for the teams that they already have
I'm quite new to the Game. Started playing it like a Week before 2.1 came. But, I already got some good Characters with Loucha, Aventurine, Firefly and Ruan Mei. I also have Himeko (lost the 50-50 on Jingliu's Banner), Bailu (Standard Banner), Yanqing (Beginner Banner) and of course Dr. Ratio. I also got the Majority of 4 Stars and only miss Qingque, Sushang and Yukong. But, I made a List of Characters I want to pull for and I was planning on going for a Acheron Team next for the Endgame Content. I even placed the Characters I want to go for into 3 Categories/Priorities. That way I won't have to buy the Express Pass that often and only if needed. It can also change depending on how good future Units are. But, please, tell me your Thoughts about it. The first Priority Characters I want to go for are Units I could use for different Teams. Those are Huohuo, Sparkle, Black Swan, Jiaoqiu, Kafka, Acheron and Dan Heng IL. The second Priority Characters are some I could pull later on and seem useful for me. Those are Fu Xuan, Robin, Blade and Jingliu. The third are Characters I'll go for last because they seem fun to play and strong, too. Those are Jade, Boothill and Seele.
@@sekirothegreatshinobi2332 oh I guess so. Anyways you probably shouldn't pull for re run dps unless you like them as characters. New dps are almost always better than pass ones except anomalies like firefly and acheron even then the new dps will probably surpass them given enough time. Looking at your acc you already have 1 good team, Dr ratio is good but you don't have characters for follow up teams like robin so he's probably not gonna be great plus hes not that good at pure fiction. The new character yunli is a good all around character, she's gonna do well in all endgame content, since your a new player she's probably worth it. However if you don't have something that just good on everything, you could wait and pull for fei xiao there's a lot of leaks around her being a follow up attack so if you want a team that is not just good but amazing you could save your jade's to pull for her and then get robin at her re run. Robin is really good for follow up attack teams, shes not necessary but it'll make a world of difference if you have her.
@@wallnut7624 Well, older DPS such as DHIL, Blade and Jingliu are still good, in my Opinion. But, for the last two I'll go a other time. Mainly because focusing on getting mulitple, strong Teams first seems to be the best way for me. Plus, it's fun to have more Options. As for new Characters, I might go for them at some Point, too. Like, Yunli who's on my 3rd Priority Characters List. But yeah, I might Feixiao on my List as well, depending on how good she really is.
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Me personally this patch is like the easiest skip I’ve ever had, also Jade being a nice half patch to save for Lingsha and Moze is a win
Same here my goal to unless they nerf her like crazy like the foxian guy
@@legendaryswordsman653how good do you think is her leaked kit?
Moze is on Feixiao's banner probably. My condolences.
See I was gonna pull for Yunli until 2.5 drip was shown Lol. I'll happily keep saving to prep for all of the 2.5 characters.
@@eblu3961 I hope it isn't 😭
The best patch Honkai Star Rail has ever offered! 🎉 Why do you ask? Because I can skip it with no regrets and save for Feixiao and Moze in 2.5. Still I know there's gonna be people who'll want to pull for either Black Swan or Huohuo, so good luck to them. 👍
Free my homie jiaoqiu from nerfs😭😭
Sparkle is replacing Black Swan in version 2.4 this update is from the special program
really good video, thanks a lot. Now i'm going to get Black Swan in her first rerun since i missed her first appearance where i thought she is kinda mid and oh boy was i wrong 😂 now that i have Acheron she will definitely be bis for my team if i add her to my Kafka and HuoHuo or my e6 Galagher this team will be fine forever, like Firefly, Ruan Mei, HMC and Galagher.
Pulled E1 Jade, easily skipping 2.4 then pulling Feixiao
Skipping this whole patch for Seele, even though I don't have Sparkle, I do have Bronya
I’m rolling for Yunli cuz I’m honestly sick of super break and her play style is just flat out fun. I’ve always like counter mechanics in games so Yunli is basically a must roll for me. I’ve seen the 2.5 characters and honestly only Moze and Feixiao pique my interest. Huohouo is good but I already got by mistake and Acheron does good dmg without both BS and Jiaqiou so those are easy skips for me.
I'm confused isn't it sparkle and not black swan?
This was posted before banners confirmed
In my opinion, judging by today's meta I would rank them like this: Hou Huo > Yunli > Black Swan > Jiao Qiu
Having Huo Huo and her signature LC is both night and day for newer players, being able to slot into any team. Having the best cleanse and pseudo harmony buff.
Yunli is basically Clara 2.0 but more DMG and consistent taunt value than Clara. Most of her DMG comes from her ult and requires good timing for bigger DMG. She also benefits from the newest 4pc relic set and 2pc set.
Black Swan is consistent within the DoT meta and can also be used in Acheron's team to stack def shred, if u don't have Silver Wolf, equipping the new JQ's sig LC that brings more supportive value.
JQ is apparently the biggest loser in patch 2.4. After countless changes, he was nerfed to be just a slightly better Guinaifen or Pela. It was a bad idea to give him DoT and balance him from that, when he was just meant to be Acheron's support. He initially had stack def shred and minor heal in his kit until Hoyoverse decided to scrap that idea and focus more on stacking vulnerability debuff. Sadly, the favoritism towards him from the community fade away.
What do you think about Black Swan dmg dealing potential?I’m just come back to the game and grab Firefly for my main dps.But don’t have any secondary for my second team only Clara/Herta…So I need a dps/dmg dealing unit to my secondary team that in some way universal too.But idk about Black Swan dmg is enough to climb higher in MOC and pure fiction or the apocalyptic shadow.The other characters don’t get my interest except only Houhou but I have a Fu Xuang and I don’t feel the need to a secondary sustain more like a nice dps.
@@Reggaement Hmm, if u want sole DPS in ur situation, then I suggest u wait for FeiXiao. 🖤 🦢 is more of a sub-dps than a main DPS for Kafka's DoT team. Her personal DMG is decent but not gasping type like the metas we have today. U don't see anymore DoT teams go 0 cycle anymore these patches. I don't think FeiXiao will disappoint ftp players. If u don't mind me spoiling her kit just to let u know in advance to pre-farm her resources,
She has follow up attack and she scales with crit-break hybrid. Take it with a grain of salt, as this is still subject to change. Hopefully, JQ's continuous changes and nerf shenanigans won't happen to her.
Bs is top tier dot dd. She is perfectly played with Kafka or Acheron. In my opinion, if you lack good dps, she is over huohou.
@@alenromThank you for the reply!I stick with the BS plan then!Of course if Acheron or Kafka get a rerun I get both or at least Acheron for sure so BS have a nice place in the future maybe in multiple teams too.For now just lacking a dps for my secondary team to clear the end game contents…So annoying tho.I get 3 Yanquing and the cone for him…Nit even a Himeko or Welt to deal some dmg.Only Clara and Bailu.Maybe an E2 Yanquing worth to build for moc and apocalyptic?
Isn't vulnerability a stronger debuff tho?
How is yunli not versatile when she literally works in all three end game modes with a f2p lc (Aeon) along with working with every support other than Ruan Mei.
She also has a f2p aggro supp in lynx???
The only investment you need for yunli at the most is her sig LC which is the same level of investment as acheron or bh…
Yunli is definitely not as good as FF or Acheron but her versatility is what makes her top 3 dps but im confused on why u said that it was her weakness.
Thing with Yunli is that all showcases put her with 2-3 supports. If you put any dps with 2-3 supports, they'll pop off too.
She's an okay character, little better than Clara, that's about it.
I've seen people use Yunli's Tingyun + Robin + Sparkle comp with Jade and make Jade hit for 1-2 million damage, does that make Jade strong? No, the supports are the strong element.
@@eblu3961 how is that at all a good counter point, every dps in the game is going to be using 2-3 supports, that's literally how carry comps function.
Blade struggles even with great supports, yunli isn't weak without the best supports in the game so this point makes no sense.
She's in the same boat as everyone else, it's just that she doesn't power creep everyone else so when compared to the last 3 dps released before jade she's considered "weaker".
She's a strong character no matter how you look at it, she's simply not the absolute strongest and that's fine, it's like people are begging for more powercreep.
the thing about yunli is that is not that she's bad, but choosing to release her after acheron and firefly means barely anyone needs an extra dps
it's just that there is not much she can do that the others can't
and also content catered towards yunli might help acheron out too, because enemies that act more often to trigger her counter, will also act more often to trigger acheron's trend
firefly users might be a little annoyed if there is a lot of enemy AF in the next moc buffs, but she's strong enough to not care
We just got firefly one the best moc/apoc dps
And now we got jade, one of the best pf characters
No reason to get another dps
@EyesDontCry blade does not have dedicated supports yet that fully exploit his kit tho.
yunli is the best cuz she has a comically large sword, that's good enough
Even though he's the only character in the history of Genshin and HSR to get ONLY NERFS through the beta I'm still pulling for him. People downplay his usefulness and he's still a upgrade to Pela and Guin 🤷
yunli can ult 8 times in 1 wave btw since her ult cost is low and she gains so much energy (dealing 200k per ult) so thats a pro and also she have a over stack ult like when your ult is ready you can store extra energy (tho unlike argenti she does not get super ult dmg) so thats pro since she is easy and sp friendly dps (since she does not care if you use her skill) her skill is the fua dmg so no need to use skill no need for speed relics or stats she just want dmg and a proper sustain like huohuo luocha even bailu and lynx is good
no hate
IMO black swan is just the better pick over jq even for acheron especially in PF. acheron just overkills things so she doesnt need more dmg amplification from jq but BS can do some dmg during acheron downtime and buff acheron by a bit as well.
Would JQ be a good team member for Blackswan?
Yunli gonna take acheron’s place as the 2nd best dps , she hits way more frequently but with a bit less dmg
Should i pull for Jiaqui or black swan for kafka
If you have enough pulls for e1so black swan , pull black swan
And then pull jiaoqiu lc and slam into black swan if you want black swan to have supportive capabilities.
@@Thivesh_ I am f2p so I currently only have 100 pulls right now I'll hope I win 50,50 for her
@@Thivesh_ tq for your suggestion
Do u have Ruan mei or Robin? If so, black swan is an easy choice.
Black swan don't applies debuffs for Acheron like jiaoqiu? Even her BA applies a debuf
I am just going for Black swan ( and I have my mind set to get her E1 ) 🎉🎉
The only thing I needed to hear:
Jiaoqiu will be better for Acheron than Pela.
If I can choose between a little girl with Harry Potter glasses and a sly fox man, then I don't care what comes after this pach, I'm pulling!
I feel like Yunli is really being underestimated, She's comparable to Argenti in the way she use her Ultimate and her damage potential is higher. HuoHuo is one of the best healers in the game and Black Swan is damn near mandatory for a DOT team. This banner is anything but skippable
Yeah, her skill scalings are reaaaally nuts
In a single target situation, her ult bounce does 652% damage with +100% crit dmg! And she gains extra energy from being hit and counters as well, how crazy is that?
But I do understand why people might not pull for her even if her dps is on par with Acheron and Firefly.
First of all, unlike them she doesn't have the free all res pen/weakness implant on her kit, so she could eventually struggle against physical resistance, making her not as much of a generalist as those two.
And second, for people that have Acheron already, Yunli's value could be reduced because they do share a niche.
Both of them are reliant on the enemy acting for them to deal more damage, Acheron gets more stacks, Yunli gets her counters.
Having two characters with similar niches isn't as valuable as having very different niches.
Also, focusing on the dps chars that you already have is often the better choice, I bet too many people are more preoccupied with saving for eidolons/LCs or new support characters for the teams that they already have
as every patch, go for w/e u want or like
2.4 easiest skip of my life
Ima go for blackswan i missed her first rerun since i have gone for e1 dhil by accident after losing the 50/50 then get dhil at 1 pity
I'm quite new to the Game. Started playing it like a Week before 2.1 came. But, I already got some good Characters with Loucha, Aventurine, Firefly and Ruan Mei. I also have Himeko (lost the 50-50 on Jingliu's Banner), Bailu (Standard Banner), Yanqing (Beginner Banner) and of course Dr. Ratio. I also got the Majority of 4 Stars and only miss Qingque, Sushang and Yukong. But, I made a List of Characters I want to pull for and I was planning on going for a Acheron Team next for the Endgame Content. I even placed the Characters I want to go for into 3 Categories/Priorities. That way I won't have to buy the Express Pass that often and only if needed. It can also change depending on how good future Units are. But, please, tell me your Thoughts about it. The first Priority Characters I want to go for are Units I could use for different Teams. Those are Huohuo, Sparkle, Black Swan, Jiaoqiu, Kafka, Acheron and Dan Heng IL.
The second Priority Characters are some I could pull later on and seem useful for me. Those are Fu Xuan, Robin, Blade and Jingliu.
The third are Characters I'll go for last because they seem fun to play and strong, too. Those are Jade, Boothill and Seele.
Isnt qing que a free character?? I played at 2.2 and got her somehow
@@wallnut7624 Yeah, but for that you have to play a bit of the Endgame Content. But, I still need a second Team for that.
@@sekirothegreatshinobi2332 oh I guess so. Anyways you probably shouldn't pull for re run dps unless you like them as characters. New dps are almost always better than pass ones except anomalies like firefly and acheron even then the new dps will probably surpass them given enough time. Looking at your acc you already have 1 good team, Dr ratio is good but you don't have characters for follow up teams like robin so he's probably not gonna be great plus hes not that good at pure fiction. The new character yunli is a good all around character, she's gonna do well in all endgame content, since your a new player she's probably worth it. However if you don't have something that just good on everything, you could wait and pull for fei xiao there's a lot of leaks around her being a follow up attack so if you want a team that is not just good but amazing you could save your jade's to pull for her and then get robin at her re run. Robin is really good for follow up attack teams, shes not necessary but it'll make a world of difference if you have her.
@@wallnut7624 Well, older DPS such as DHIL, Blade and Jingliu are still good, in my Opinion. But, for the last two I'll go a other time. Mainly because focusing on getting mulitple, strong Teams first seems to be the best way for me. Plus, it's fun to have more Options. As for new Characters, I might go for them at some Point, too. Like, Yunli who's on my 3rd Priority Characters List. But yeah, I might Feixiao on my List as well, depending on how good she really is.
I swa yunli game Play. If people think shes hard 🫡
Best skip patch, I can save up! Amazing
what if I choose none of them 🗿
Im going for Black Swan cause im guaranteed plus i have Clara so no interest in Yunli
this aged
💀😂
Huo huo i pull him
Yes. Skip
Can I pull for black swan if I don't have Kafka?
Yep Just get Kafka later
Huo Huo > Yunli = Black Swan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jiaomid
Calling him mid is being nice he's more like a four-star than a limited 5 star