Creepy Bad Endings # 9 - Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War

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  • @whoisthisgit
    @whoisthisgit  2 роки тому +6

    Episode 10: ua-cam.com/video/CYrRovmL83w/v-deo.html

  • @ziggymcdougal
    @ziggymcdougal 8 років тому +416

    Sigurd: Hey Alvis, I just killed all those corrupt Noble-men! Can you help clear my name?Alvis: Nice job bro! Before that I'm having a barbecue, wanna come over?Sigurd: Sure! Why not? What's the worst that could happen?

    • @gingerkays7362
      @gingerkays7362 7 років тому +49

      Alvis: oh, but before that, we’re going to go see a meteor shower, want to come?

    • @btmm139
      @btmm139 5 років тому +28

      Arvis: Oh, have you meet my wife, who is your Brainwashed Deirdre

    • @SakamotoHatsuharu
      @SakamotoHatsuharu 5 років тому +28

      Alvis: Also, can you just unequip Tyrfing(that gives resistance+20!!!) and equip the silver sword I gave you back in chapter 1? Just to be emotional?

    • @NinjaAO42
      @NinjaAO42 4 роки тому +10

      Today's special is skewed Quan and Eldigan head soup!!!

    • @videobrosproductions717
      @videobrosproductions717 4 роки тому +4

      Alvis: I'm bringing very strong magic users with me as well bro!

  • @KaijinZero
    @KaijinZero 10 років тому +363

    yeah, losing your ENTIRE ARMY, especially after spending so much time with them, would cause me to chuck the system against the wall.

    • @bigtimetimmyjim6486
      @bigtimetimmyjim6486 7 років тому +24

      Luckily, the army remains largely intact, with important items and abilities passed down.

    • @paperluigi6132
      @paperluigi6132 6 років тому +8

      What? Some of them survive? Or is it their children?

    • @azizabdul8914
      @azizabdul8914 6 років тому +25

      Prince Lewyn, Princess Lachesis, and Lady Edain survives. Briggid also survives and appeared in Thracia 776, but is known as Eyvel and she's the Jeigan swordmaster in that game.

    • @amogusman6227
      @amogusman6227 3 роки тому

      @crackedllama what about Lene’s mother(i might be wrong)

    • @saiyanguy42woglinde37
      @saiyanguy42woglinde37 8 місяців тому

      Akatsuki succeed their mission after capturing all 9 tailed beast including Killer Bee and Naruto

  • @OneTrueBelmont
    @OneTrueBelmont 9 років тому +212

    When you said this was completely unavoidable, I screamed "WHAT?!" at my monitor. Then I cheered when you said it was the halfway point. But DAMN, that is cold.

    • @Draconic
      @Draconic 8 років тому +6

      play the game and u will be glad

    • @TheALX2444
      @TheALX2444 7 років тому +2

      yong Un Mao What do you mean?

    • @Underworlder5
      @Underworlder5 7 років тому +16

      +SilverPresence maybe because you get to avenge your first army

    • @Freebot3
      @Freebot3 7 років тому +3

      Hopefully, Phantasy Star 2 is featured in this series. The heroes face set back after set back and the whole thing ends in a cataclysm that results in the collapse of a solar system spanning civilization.

    • @Marxeru
      @Marxeru 7 років тому +9

      very mad guy You do. A descendant of Sigurd, Seliph, fought to avenge him.

  • @carlosmendoza1177
    @carlosmendoza1177 7 років тому +168

    It gets sadder when you discover one of the cutscenes at the title screen features Deirdre and Alvis, and she asks to him: "Was that man really that bad?" T.T

  • @thegreendragon5390
    @thegreendragon5390 9 років тому +293

    How do you put one of the worst unavoidable endings in all of ever in a video game without destroying your fan base, MAKE IT THE HALF WAY POINT OF THE GAME!

    • @thatnerdinthecomments4678
      @thatnerdinthecomments4678 5 років тому +24

      what fanbase? This is Genealogy we're talking about.

    • @ohandthefracking
      @ohandthefracking 4 роки тому +2

      @@thatnerdinthecomments4678 LMFAAAAO exactly
      FE4 has non-existent fanbase

    • @nap2149
      @nap2149 4 роки тому +8

      @@ohandthefracking no fe4 has a fan base alright. First thing to get into that game is to first know it even exists lol.

    • @ohandthefracking
      @ohandthefracking 4 роки тому

      @@nap2149 damn....

    • @noahh9043
      @noahh9043 4 роки тому +11

      @@thatnerdinthecomments4678 these days?
      This game 100% has a fan base

  • @aqexbrown
    @aqexbrown 8 років тому +234

    I now feel disgusting for giving my avatar Valflame as his main weapon in Awakening. The amount of innocent lives that tome brought to an end is horrific.

    • @sableakoma1539
      @sableakoma1539 8 років тому +5

      You did what

    • @sableakoma1539
      @sableakoma1539 8 років тому +2

      Don't tell me you didn't have a better option either you delinquent 😂

    • @ysffff
      @ysffff 8 років тому +96

      It is not the tome that commits these events,it is the disgusting person who uses it for crime.You,being a goood person,can use the tome without feeling bad,because you are using it to end the war and chaos.

    • @bens5093
      @bens5093 7 років тому +65

      Is the man who invented fire responsible for arson? No. Of course not.
      Although, the symbolism is indeed quite disturbing...

    • @jacob-nm4ns
      @jacob-nm4ns 7 років тому +15

      Alex Brown
      POWER is a nuetral force: it allows
      you use it to force others(stop a war) realise your dreams(become the Stat god)
      how you use it depends on your morality/alignement and sanity(bonus points for experience)
      Some will think you're a hero(that soldier you killed? was a loving husband and father)
      or as a monster(you killed many good but naive people ex: your best friend)
      anyways you decide what to do with the POWER you have.

  • @MetalAcrean
    @MetalAcrean 10 років тому +200

    And yet they say Nintendo games are for kids.

    • @NALADROWNEDswagpage
      @NALADROWNEDswagpage 10 років тому +5

      Well technicaly, this is Capcom/Nintendo, I think.

    • @Chourtaird1
      @Chourtaird1 10 років тому +62

      Everyone who says this has never played:
      Some Fire Emblem games (especially this)
      Zelda Majoras Mask (and maybe Twilight Princess)
      The Metroid Series
      Advance Wars Dark Conflict
      They just see Nintendo as "the company that makes childish Mario and Kirby games" (btw. Mario and Kirby are awesome)

    • @MetalAcrean
      @MetalAcrean 10 років тому +2

      Exactly.

    • @obed190505
      @obed190505 10 років тому +2

      Tienes que tomar en cuenta de que este juego no salió de Japón y en japón los juegos son bien diferentes.

    • @mikeymikesh9802
      @mikeymikesh9802 9 років тому +7

      nintendo is the best video game company. i hope it never goes bankrupt

  • @VanguardVolt
    @VanguardVolt 8 років тому +106

    Am I the only one who noticed that among the casualties in Sigurd's party was Azel, Alvis' younger brother? Talk about brotherly love, am I right? Shame the little guy didn't even get to live to know the truth about his brother.

    • @MasterKnightDH
      @MasterKnightDH 8 років тому +6

      You're not the only one who noticed.

    • @Z_Cerulean
      @Z_Cerulean 8 років тому +8

      It's mentioned in an optional conversation between Azel and Sigurd in the Prologue when he joins.

    • @wafflecone6968
      @wafflecone6968 7 років тому +12

      Azen technically didn't get killed here. He got turned to stone my manfroy

    • @mcihay246
      @mcihay246 4 роки тому +1

      Sometimes, the pragmatist does what they have to for a better world...
      Including if it means killing your brother if it means that the truth is hidden from the public.

    • @zanes_productions
      @zanes_productions Рік тому

      @@wafflecone6968 I think it’s crazy how it’s implied that the ones who survived and were royally connected- Ayra, Lachesis, Azel, and Lex, were all turned to stone and used as Manfroy’s personal decorations. Creepy stuff

  • @kirakira4
    @kirakira4 10 років тому +201

    The ultimate horror for any stat-maxing rpg player.....!!! Q~Q

    • @somebody3883
      @somebody3883 7 років тому +1

      oh god

    • @carlosmendoza1177
      @carlosmendoza1177 7 років тому +40

      Not really, since the children initial stats depend of the parents final stats, so it's not a complete waste to train and max them (except maybe deirdre, but you only have her for one chapter and half)

    • @KratosAurionPlays
      @KratosAurionPlays 6 років тому +8

      +carlos mendoza I still maxed out my Deirdre thanks to heal staffs while boss abusing in Chapter 2 XD

  • @adamsyafiq6874
    @adamsyafiq6874 8 років тому +93

    Wow,so they flat out just kills your whole party...that's pretty metal

    • @Draconic
      @Draconic 8 років тому +11

      if u play the game u will know each of those mages can pull a massive amount of damage. here we have an army of mages and the boss Alvis who held legedary spell. Btw, a few swift characters didnt die; for instance, Kevin the wind sage and his wife the pegasus rider.

    • @jedicub3024
      @jedicub3024 7 років тому +13

      Adam Syafiq This is like stone oceans ending kills off the whole damn team of jojos

    • @SeanTheShinigami
      @SeanTheShinigami 7 років тому +5

      Jedi Cub
      Stone Ocean's ending killed no one. The people who were alive were sent into a new position in the new universe.
      The people who died before this reset happened were reincarnated into new beings.

    • @TheBanishedWind
      @TheBanishedWind 5 років тому +2

      @Adam Syafiq (OP)
      Not entirely, there WERE survivors, but only a few made it to see Julius get pwned.

  • @SuperArppis
    @SuperArppis 7 років тому +134

    You can easily tell who are the bad guys in this game by simply looking at the way their faces look. They could as well have "I am evil" written upon their foreheads. :D

    • @sugarkane1571
      @sugarkane1571 7 років тому +11

      Stereotypes yay!

    • @pokelordomega2414
      @pokelordomega2414 6 років тому +1

      Lol

    • @alph0x101
      @alph0x101 6 років тому

      Lex was in on it

    • @alverdeo965
      @alverdeo965 6 років тому +1

      Like most Fire Emblem games.

    • @mcihay246
      @mcihay246 5 років тому +1

      Although, Arvis and Travant may have done unforgivable acts, but their intentions weren't evil.

  • @DSaC_
    @DSaC_ 9 років тому +130

    Since comments were locked for #8, i'd like to point out that Rebecca dying was actually a mistake in FE7. She can't die because Wolt wasn't born yet. Just an interesting piece of trivia I found.

    • @roosgambino
      @roosgambino 9 років тому +2

      Actually i think wolt is Wil's son

    • @DSaC_
      @DSaC_ 9 років тому +37

      Nicolas Sanchez Nope.
      "The identity of his father is left ambiguous, so it could be the archer Wil, the Pheraean cavalier Lowen, or the Caelin cavalier Sain."-The Fire Emblem Wiki.

    • @grottosstuff
      @grottosstuff 7 років тому +18

      So If I kill off a shit unit, an equally as shitty unit ceases to exist.
      Good thing Rebecca is such good bait.

    • @benjaminborkowski12
      @benjaminborkowski12 7 років тому +3

      He is just barely usable in Normal mode, in Hard mode, he is better. As Bait, i mean. Nobody should use him as an actual unit.

    • @Mario-dm4or
      @Mario-dm4or 5 років тому

      @@benjaminborkowski12 holy crap

  • @amrithas182
    @amrithas182 8 років тому +76

    See...this is what fire emblem really is...not just rainbows and butterflies....this...is the shit T.T

    • @oldzooklight5893
      @oldzooklight5893 5 років тому +17

      Fire Emblem was NEVER rainbows or butterflies.

    • @solitonmedic
      @solitonmedic 5 років тому +7

      Or summer scrambles or bridal bashes.

  • @zoraxbrooks
    @zoraxbrooks 10 років тому +48

    While that's not necessarily creepy, it is really fucking sad and depressing, wtf dudes.

  • @Kay-sz4bk
    @Kay-sz4bk 7 років тому +35

    it took arden 3 hits with a fucking meteor to die
    what a legend

    • @filledvoid
      @filledvoid 7 років тому +8

      Briggit got hit with three meteors and DID NOT die. How about that?

  • @MasterKnightDH
    @MasterKnightDH 7 років тому +27

    I just realized how crafty it was on FE4's part about the way the good VS evil legacy stuff is handled. Diadora of course having the blood of both Narga and Loptous can have her offspring be the reincarnation of either, and Manfloy manipulates this to have the reincarnation of Loptous be installed as emperor under the premise that he's the reincarnation of Narga instead, turning Narga's own legacy against him. And oh look, he and Alvis accounted for Sigurd being a Spanner In The Works, had him deemed a traitor, everything.
    But even when accounted for, Sigurd was successful at being a SitW, simply by being heroic. By sending Serlis away to safety while fighting Grandbell's forces head-on prepared to die without clearing his name successfully, Sigurd ended up hiding Serlis's existence until it was too late for the Dark Sect to do anything about it. I don't know what Sigurd DID realize that could have helped if he got his name cleared successfully, but as Alvis saw fit to execute him and his people on the spot, Sigurd could not even be forced to provide information like Serlis's existence. Basically, the bad guys had shot themselves in the foot and Sigurd got the consolation that his legacy was celebrated and his son had successfully finished what he had started.

  • @bracketd_oom2033
    @bracketd_oom2033 7 років тому +25

    Sigurd met his tragic fate again in enduring love voting gauntlet

  • @WindsSymphony
    @WindsSymphony 8 років тому +35

    What I find sad about that chapter was if you have any of your units paired up with each other, then they'll talk about how that battle might be their last. I haven't finished this game yet, but I got up to that part and was like "oh... they know that they're going to die aren't they?" The whole chapter was just so sad and foreboding.

    • @forklauncher
      @forklauncher 8 років тому +14

      +Winds Symphony Especially interesting is Claud's conversation with Aideen if she's his wife. He straight up says that when he was at Braggi Tower, he had a vision of this event. He knows what's going to happen and that he's going to die, but also tells Aideen not to come with him because it's not part of her fate.

    • @WindsSymphony
      @WindsSymphony 8 років тому +4

      +Forklauncher
      I think I had Adeen paired up with Azel. But that just makes this chapter even more sadder. I was playing this off of an emulator on my phone, and I lost everything when I switched phones. But knowing all of this is making me hesitant on replaying through this part just to finish the second half.

    • @SakamotoHatsuharu
      @SakamotoHatsuharu 4 роки тому +1

      Plus the background music of this chapter basically gives you the feeling that Sigurd and co. are marching to their deaths

  • @acheron16
    @acheron16 7 років тому +12

    1:04 Mmmmmm a corridor of soldiers with whom I have a fragile alliance, WHAT COULD EVER GO WRONG!?

  • @PikaPerfect
    @PikaPerfect 9 років тому +21

    Damn. It's like in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Explorers of Time where the protagonist is stripped from the fabric of time and your partner goes into depression while the protagonist is "dead" for a year ;-;

    • @azure4622
      @azure4622 6 років тому +5

      PikaPerfect pmd explorer's of the sky was the pmd i played with no previous knowledge of what happened in the first game...
      I WENT INTO SHOCK BECAUSE I DIED IN A POKEMON GAME....
      FOR A YEAR...
      Gen 7 pmd where are you

  • @devich98
    @devich98 9 років тому +34

    I don't know about you guys but I'm positive my Ayra is still alive. No way with avoid like what she has was she going to get hit with meteor.

    • @SilverHairedFreak25
      @SilverHairedFreak25 9 років тому +25

      There's one thing in FE no one can dodge, no matter how much avoid your character has Scripted Battles!

    • @SilverHairedFreak25
      @SilverHairedFreak25 9 років тому

      *double post*

    • @devich98
      @devich98 9 років тому

      SilverHairedFreak25 :,(

    • @dmas7749
      @dmas7749 9 років тому +2

      +SilverHairedFreak25 Even with 0 Hit, that's true.

    • @flipplesnipples426
      @flipplesnipples426 7 років тому +4

      Devinchy Fontilus
      All women survived (if they had kids).

  • @mushroomfusion245
    @mushroomfusion245 7 років тому +27

    Alvis was so ugly that everyone died! The end.

  • @kasinokaiser1319
    @kasinokaiser1319 5 років тому +21

    Just imagine when Nintendo finally remakes this

    • @SierraGustafson
      @SierraGustafson 28 днів тому

      I can just imagine an FMV of Sigurd's death scene and the last thing we get to see of Sigurd is his wedding ring before it gets destroyed by Arvis' boot.

  • @funghoul693
    @funghoul693 11 років тому +10

    This was actually SAD!!! Omg I hate when my units die I can't imagine watching all of them dying at the same time so suddenly wow!!!

  • @domicraft6341
    @domicraft6341 5 років тому +6

    The story of Jugdral really is a dark but also a wonderful written time in Fire Emblem. No other game could keep up to the feeling you have in those games. One thing I noticed while replaying Holy War lately was one line during the storytime before chapter 7. Obviously: Spoiler warning for those games. It says that all companions of Leif beside Finn, Nanna/Jeanne and himself have been killed by Freege. This technically makes the end of FE Thracia 776 even more tragic. Especially because it is one of the harder games. It really gives you "end of the world" vibes and even after you've been through all this crap most of the characters you loved in FE5 ended up being killed. And that's most likely not a case of "this wasn't planned" like it's the case in FE7. The prequel of FE6. (Missing characters like Lyn or Ninian etc. With Ninian being the most suitable canon wife of Elliwood. Some things are contradicting like the name of Elliwoods child which is always Roy even if your tactician isn't Roy and you get the ending where Elliwood wants to name his child like your tactician.) There are some optional events in Holy War who foreshadow things which are present in Thracia. Like the fake Shannan and such. Of course some things are still missing like the mentioning of Reinhardt for example. Probably it's because he died in Thracia but most likely because he didn't existed in FE4s story development. In the end it would be another bad ending which actually never happened/isn't a bad ending. But thinking about it remembers me how cruel those games can be. Especially Thracia. It even gives you a hard time after you thought you reached a happy end.

  • @airtempest8945
    @airtempest8945 7 років тому +13

    3:33 Adean is hit by a meteor tome, unpromoted. She's surrounded by promoted units. She doesn't die. Fire Emblem RNG for you.

  • @wolfie7223
    @wolfie7223 8 років тому +48

    FEELS ALERT FEELS ALERT

  • @soleilperras
    @soleilperras 7 років тому +26

    Can we also mention that Alvis killed his brother Azel in that attack? Just saying...

    • @calea1875
      @calea1875 5 років тому +18

      In the original idea for the game, Azel had a much more expanded role. There were going to be three acts. The second gen story would have been the third act, while the second act would have shown what happens after the death of Sigurd's army. In this original version, Azel ended up leaving right before the massacre. As one of the sole survivors of Sigurd's army, he would try to raise a liberation army against his brother, but would be declared a traitor and fall out of favor (the people liked Alvis at this time.) Eventually, Azel would try to have a talk with Alvis in person, but would be intercepted by Manfroy and basically put in stasis. He would be discovered at the end of act 3 by Seliph and would be awoken, getting to live a somewhat-happy ending with his kids, who would likely be around his age. Sadly, this all got cut, and Azel lost his protagonist role and got much less screentime than he deserved.
      They also planned to put him in Thracia 776, canonizing his wife as Tailtiu, but that also got cut.

    • @TheBanishedWind
      @TheBanishedWind 5 років тому +13

      @@calea1875
      And then they killed Tailtiu in one of the most tear-jerking ways possible.

  • @CasualReaper
    @CasualReaper 7 років тому +32

    I would of just burned the game in a open fire. You don't just straight up kill my army like that in a story.

  • @DiegoG2004
    @DiegoG2004 9 років тому +16

    Alvis,you just killed your brother Azel with Meteo!

    • @DiegoG2004
      @DiegoG2004 8 років тому +4

      ***** But stone your brother is still bad!

    • @DiegoG2004
      @DiegoG2004 8 років тому

      ***** Oh...

    • @Draconic
      @Draconic 8 років тому

      +Meta Knight what part of that in the game? I dont recall reading that part in the game

  • @NobleSpitfire
    @NobleSpitfire 8 років тому +48

    I feel like Sigurd's army needed an Ike...

    • @mynipples9327
      @mynipples9327 8 років тому +1

      yes

    • @MasterKnightDH
      @MasterKnightDH 7 років тому +91

      Sigurd's army had an Ike. His name was Sigurd.

    • @Multibe150
      @Multibe150 7 років тому +17

      NobleSpitfire Sigurd is waaaaaay stronger than Ike, the problem here is that enemies are also more powerful

    • @bigtimetimmyjim6486
      @bigtimetimmyjim6486 7 років тому +36

      Sigurd's army needed a "Seth" is more like it; not for his overall strength, but his skepticism and common sense. For example...
      SPOILERS
      ...he called out Orson and told him to drop his weapons before getting too close to Eirika after returning without Ephraim. You think he is going to be attending any barbecues at Arvis's house?

    • @Sasha-ph9uv
      @Sasha-ph9uv 6 років тому +2

      NobleSpitfire I feel like they need more resist stat with all this mage

  • @TastyCitrus
    @TastyCitrus 12 років тому +2

    This series is what got me to take an interest in Fire Emblem. And now I am obsessed with Seisen No Keifu. So I have your series to thank for that. Thanks.

  • @glaceo3544
    @glaceo3544 8 років тому +7

    Wait... you used Midayle but not Lex?! This... is madness!
    THIS. IS.THRACIA! (seriously, FE 5 is awesome)

  • @rydrake9509
    @rydrake9509 9 років тому +14

    Wow! that was the darkest ending ive ever seen in a FE game especially for one that you cannot avoid to see it >.< ive havent played the Nes series but i know a lil bit of the story since ive made some research on wikia, plus Arvis is the most perverted char ive ever seen in the FE series so far

  • @whoisthisgit
    @whoisthisgit  12 років тому +3

    @Eltshan51 Alvis killed almost all of my characters from the first generation of the game. I will forever hate him for that.

  • @totalsyambles8308
    @totalsyambles8308 8 років тому +20

    UA-cam categorises this as a shooting game. What the hell?

    • @projectshadowzero7082
      @projectshadowzero7082 8 років тому +2

      Ha, I get it.

    • @sammace7169
      @sammace7169 8 років тому +22

      There's a joke among the FE Oldschool fandom that Sigurd got "360 Falascoped" by Arvis

    • @naplockblubba5369
      @naplockblubba5369 8 років тому +1

      It thought a starcarft animation. was club penguin

    • @naplockblubba5369
      @naplockblubba5369 8 років тому

      +Naplock Blubba Starcraft animation*

    • @nuibaba280
      @nuibaba280 7 років тому

      +The King Lol

  • @MasterJP28
    @MasterJP28 8 років тому +29

    You know I don't really hate Alvis, I respect and pity him. He had a good idea and for the first few years of the Grandbell empire he did good and was well liked by the people. Remember that Augustria had horrible nobles, except for Eltoshan. Verdane was very barbaric, and Grandbell was a bomb waiting to explode. Basically I respect him for the way he manipulated everyone, only to be manipulated himself, and it's this irony that makes me pity him. Alvis had Sigurd do the hard work and when vulnerable took him out, although the Dierdre part was a bigger dick move. Once Manloy got the Lopt Sect back in power that is when the Empire truly became evil. Alvis became nothing more than a mat that everyone stepped on. FE4 did a great job in making the villains evil and yet have purpose, not just evil for the hell of it. I'm pretty sure there was a reason for Bishop Galle for making the Loptian empire and not just because he was evil.

    • @MasterJP28
      @MasterJP28 8 років тому +3

      Sidar Erdem Sigurd, who is my favorite lord of all Fire Emblem, was gullible and trusting. I know Galle was possessed like Julius and Levin, but what I was saying is that there has to have been a reason for him to seek the power. I am assuming the Gran Empire, like all empires, got abusive. Galle probably suffered something similar to Alvis who wanted to help others, but got corrupted by Loptusu and created the Lopt Empire, which probably started out better for people during the early years prior to conducting sacrifices.

    • @Arkaine197
      @Arkaine197 8 років тому +8

      Well i don't think Alvis ever really wanted to help the Lopt Sect, but i'm pretty sure there's an interaction between him and Manfloy where Manfloy threatens to reveal that Alivs carries Lopt Blood, and because in Grandbell most people feared and hated anyone with Lopt blood, even though he weren't evil, he'd almost certainly have been stripped of his lordship and exiled if not outright executed, so a lot of his allying with the Lopt sect was largely out of fear. Manfloy may have manipulated his fears to get him to perform out-of-character evil acts but i think Alvis was largely a victim of the Grandbell culture that made him fear becoming a pariah just because of who he was, in that way Fire Emblem has always been great at creating multi-dimensional villains, well until Ashnard came along......

    • @Draconic
      @Draconic 8 років тому +4

      because he regreted that. He bears the cursed and holy blood at the same time so he has always been in between good and bad. He has been a good guy until Manfloy used Diadora to blind him with love and jealosy. he realized that mistake he made and tried to redeem later.

    • @airtempest8945
      @airtempest8945 7 років тому +2

      I mean, in the scene before he fights Seliph's Liberation Army, he is shown helping Ishtar release the children captured in the Child Hunts. He's not exactly evil, but he's not good either. He's in the gray.

    • @Arkaine197
      @Arkaine197 7 років тому

      Yeah the Granbell/Lopt empire always struck me as a combination of
      different factions, Julius and his acolytes were truly evil: him,
      Manfloy, Hilda, Dannan and Andre, but there were a faction that were
      trying to subtly push back against the evil and do some good work from
      within like freeing the children, i mean a lot of the enemies you have
      to kill don't seem particularly evil, Liza, Ishtore, Ishtar and Alvis do
      all seem to be a little wary/remorseful of what's going on, and while
      Bloom is technically evil i don't think he's malicious in the same way
      Julius and Hilda are, he seems just to be a weak cowardly man who got
      led down that road by Hilda.
      But that's always been one of the strength of the Fire Emblem Series, it did the same thing with Blazing Blade, set the black fang up as the enemy within which Nergal, Sonia and Ursula were the pure evil ones while Brendan Reed was just a tool who got misled by Sonia, and Lloyd and Linus were good people who it feels really shitty when you have to kill them. Making you actually give a shit about the people you have to kill is one of the reasons why the Fire Emblem series always feels like a real story.

  • @Sparrow-Music
    @Sparrow-Music 14 років тому +1

    I have to say it. I am addicted to your videos. Especially the Creepy Bad Endings. You're GREAT at explaining them and giving us that eerie feeling.

  • @rufrox9947
    @rufrox9947 7 років тому +6

    This is literally a PG13 version of Griffis and Gut´s showdown at the end of the Golden Age arc.

  • @mufflebuns6322
    @mufflebuns6322 5 років тому +3

    One of the first FE videos I watched before getting into FE. I thought the whole series was this dark, but thankfully(?) it wasn't. Jeez, that would drive me nuts.

  • @badacid8685
    @badacid8685 9 років тому +7

    Such a tragic fate. Felt so good when I finally killed Alvis with Celice.

    • @Draconic
      @Draconic 8 років тому +1

      make sure u go south and meet his dead perents for the gift and unlocked touchy moment

  • @M30W3R
    @M30W3R 14 років тому +2

    You dastard...a true gentleman's rage is always collected.

  • @elkuronense
    @elkuronense 11 років тому +6

    Levin actually is the incarnation of the God Holsety, Finn didn't fight there and Briggid turned into a swordfighter named "Eyvel" in the Fire Emblem Trachi 776, and then turned into stone at some point. Aideen is living, acording to a game dialogue in the Church of Tilnanogue as a abbess. Thus, the only one who actually survive to reach the Generation 2 is Aideen, because Levin is the god Holsety (you can actually understand his cold and harsh behavor toward the death of Fury and his own kids)

    • @malalarazafinakanga5755
      @malalarazafinakanga5755 5 років тому

      I think all the possible mothers survive (Tailtiu, Fury etc) and died afterward

    • @mcihay246
      @mcihay246 4 роки тому

      In regards to Lewyn, it's not exactly clear that he's possessed.
      Simply look at his reaction towards Tinni or Lene.

    • @alejandro_rodriguez_99
      @alejandro_rodriguez_99 3 роки тому

      @@malalarazafinakanga5755 ayra died.

  • @davimag2071
    @davimag2071 6 років тому +2

    Man that's such sad and awesome at the same time...like, the protagonist and everyone dies but the next generation get revenge xD Awesome!

  • @Aleph3575
    @Aleph3575 3 роки тому +1

    Never forget that Thracia 776, the sequel to the first part of this game, actually made the Battle of Barhara worse because it's heavily implied that the Demon Lords you fight in the final battle of that game are implied to be characters from this game after they died. Some characters did survive, Fury/Erinys ends up queen of Silesia but she dies of heart ache because Lewyn DOES die at Barhara (his body gets possessed by Forsetti, confirmed by his convo with Fee/Phee if he marries Fury/Erinys), Lachesis survives but she goes looking for Nanna and ends up getting turned to stone, Brigid loses her mind and becomes Eyvel. Poor Tailtyu ends up being tortured to death trying to protect her daughter from brother's wife. It can legitimately be said that it was better for some of them to have died at the massacre than having survived. I think the only character who survives but doesn't pay a very harsh price is Aideen who ends up taking care of the orphaned second generation alongside Oifaye.

  • @appelofdoom8211
    @appelofdoom8211 7 років тому +5

    According to the wiki Deidre, Tiltyu, Brigid, Lachesis, Aideen, Fury, Levin, Finn and Sylvia are confirmed survivors. But Fury, Deidre and Tiltyu died later, and Lachesis along with Sylvia disapeared and are hinted to have died. Leaving brigid (with a case of amnesia), aideen, levin (technically because the forsety revived him) and finn as the only confirmed survivers of Sigurds team.

    • @Jekuma
      @Jekuma 6 років тому

      Azelle was also said to have survived and was turned to stone before reaching his brother to attempt to reason with him.

    • @TheBanishedWind
      @TheBanishedWind 5 років тому

      @@Jekuma
      Sadly that was cut, as that was how the planned second act would've ended, and Seliph's arc would've been the third act.

  • @whoisthisgit
    @whoisthisgit  13 років тому +9

    @arandomguy9 Check out The Strongest Characters In Gaming Ever # 8. I didn't show the entire storyline, but it does all the Alvis scenes of the second half.

  • @whoisthisgit
    @whoisthisgit  13 років тому +1

    @Shadowdahedgie11 @HunterRyosuke Alvis is practically the emperor of the continent. Maybe others have tried to overthrow him before Celice came along, but they were quickly and easily stopped.

  • @reikoshiddenartgallery9806
    @reikoshiddenartgallery9806 7 років тому +3

    The feels, man, the feels... the 2nd half of the game is a true tale of revenge

  • @gypsysprite4824
    @gypsysprite4824 3 роки тому +1

    so i should mention how ABSOLUTLY LUCKY manfroy and his cult were that Arvis had, i beieve before marrying DIerdre, had a kid with Aida (the person who invites Sigurd over to the BBQ). That kid being Saias who we see in fe5.
    This is because of the holy blood rules ofr inheritance, pretty much you can only directly pass down a major holy blood once, after that, it will be minor blood (however, as shown by what happens if you marry Holyn and Ayra, 2 minor bloods of the same lineage can make multiple major bloods). and Saias we can infer ended up inheriting the major Fjalar blood. which meant that the highest priority for Julius's inheritance would be major loptyr than the major fjalar.
    Literally if saias wasn't a thing, the loptyr sect would have probably lost their chance to revive loptyr, assuming Arvis and Dierdre never had a third kid. and also, Arvis's reign before Julius got loptyred iirc was actually pretty damn popular, and so Seliph would not have gotten the opportunity to rebel. in short, Arvis having an illegitimate kid with Aida is the reason fe4 gen 2 gets to happen

  • @NealCamerlengo
    @NealCamerlengo 11 років тому +3

    Guh...No matter how many times I watch my hatred for Alvis, and Manfloy swells.

  • @abbasrasheed4493
    @abbasrasheed4493 9 років тому

    Whoisthisgit thank you sooo much for introducing me to this amazing series it has been two years since i watched this video and then started playing these games i have to say fire emblem is one of the best series ever

  • @Grimauld1
    @Grimauld1 14 років тому +1

    3:11 "YOU DASTARD!!"
    Great video, I love this series. Some suggestions of bad endings I would have are:
    -Breath of Fire IV, were you are forced to kill your own companions on a battle that is impossible to lose even if you want.
    -Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor, there is a bad ending were thousands of people are killed and humanity loses it's freedom because you decided to run away, there is another bad ending were you can't go back on your decisions so you have to start a new game+ .

  • @kissofaries
    @kissofaries 11 років тому +4

    Levin was killed by Manfroy, then Holsety used Valkyrie staff to ressurected him...(check demo, i don't remember how many times you beat the game to get it)

  • @chrom-manandrobin7983
    @chrom-manandrobin7983 5 років тому +1

    When Alvis started talking about killing Sigurd, I thought it was just the start of another level but nope!

  • @ItsNep
    @ItsNep 8 років тому +13

    I love GOTHW, but I can't stand to play it often because it makes me so damn sad.

    • @k4rec4
      @k4rec4 4 роки тому

      What's GOTHW ?

    • @ryanyeo4448
      @ryanyeo4448 4 роки тому

      @@k4rec4 Genealogy of the holy war

    • @k4rec4
      @k4rec4 4 роки тому +1

      @@ryanyeo4448 Oh, thanks. 👍🏼

  • @joshuabroden3733
    @joshuabroden3733 4 роки тому

    The way the music is timed is brillant.

  • @gingerkays7362
    @gingerkays7362 7 років тому +2

    I think Fates put it best "a double edged blade cuts your heart in two"

  • @whoisthisgit
    @whoisthisgit  14 років тому

    @Agju That's definitely one I've had in mind. I managed to avoid seeing it when I played the game myself, but I just knew there was a bad ending lurking there. When I saw a video for it on here, it was every bit as depressing as I was expecting. Shame the US version has a really silly spelling mistake that ruins the entire bleak atmosphere though.

  • @firefantasy6903
    @firefantasy6903 4 роки тому +1

    Nothing a valkyrie staff and shitloads of money can fix you can revive the whole army

  • @riegan947
    @riegan947 7 років тому +2

    Sigurd should have yelled "EVERYBODY ATTACK! FOCUS OF ALVIS!" Because I'm sure as hell he had a quick minute before anyone got squished by fucking meteors or Sigurd himself getting hit by the valflame

    • @TheBanishedWind
      @TheBanishedWind 5 років тому +2

      Game animations aren't exactly in real time.

    • @abc2390986
      @abc2390986 5 років тому +1

      Even according to game stats his allies just can't hurt Alvis anyways.

  • @whoisthisgit
    @whoisthisgit  13 років тому

    @ShadowdaHedgie11 Fin, the knight who left with Cuan and Ethlin at the beginning of chapter 5. He basically becomes their son Leaf's father, and is playable now only for the second half of this game, but all of the fifth game as well. (I think, I've yet to play through it myself)

  • @browncoatkevin
    @browncoatkevin 12 років тому +1

    Roy's daddy Eliwood also says Hi, along with Lady Lyndis... not to mention Eirika and Ephraim, Micaiah, and Elincia.

  • @pokelordomega2414
    @pokelordomega2414 6 років тому +5

    This isn't a creepy bad ending
    It's a very sad ending
    :'(

  • @theobserver4214
    @theobserver4214 7 років тому +4

    I could imagine this FE game possibly getting a M if it was released officially during the lifespan of the SNES, or maybe it couldn't make it at all to the states considering that incest is a plot point, and Americans hate incest.

  • @whoisthisgit
    @whoisthisgit  12 років тому

    @MatsuriMimi Yeah, I know they survived, but Fin is the only character from the first half of FE4 who can still be used in the second.

  • @LayHon0217
    @LayHon0217 12 років тому

    Wow ... I also felt very bad for Sigurd and his troops when i played the game. Though when i heard the "Chapter 6 Soundtrack" in your video, i got chills :p This music is just a "they died but it's not over yet, cheer up !" :D

  • @whoisthisgit
    @whoisthisgit  13 років тому

    @arandomguy9 Whoops, my mistake. See 6 & 7 instead. 8 was about Mega Man.

  • @littlecjoverthere467
    @littlecjoverthere467 7 років тому +1

    "YOU DASTARD!"
    They really didn't feel like going the extra mile did they

    • @Bloodlyshiva
      @Bloodlyshiva 5 років тому +2

      Real medieval insult, though. Says here 'dishonourable or despicable person'.

  • @think_of_a_storyboard3635
    @think_of_a_storyboard3635 5 років тому +1

    thats so sad. i would cry if i was playing this game.

  • @herrscherofgenesis3278
    @herrscherofgenesis3278 6 років тому

    "It seems we have fought for nothing...but an endless pain and sacrifice........"

  • @glitchwarrior7270
    @glitchwarrior7270 6 років тому

    Azel was among the casualties. He's also Alvis' half-brother. I've read in the comments how he may not have been killed in that specific battle, but STILL... Thank goodness we had at least ONE survivor from the first chunk of the game... that alone made me want to use Finn more as a unit.

  • @whoisthisgit
    @whoisthisgit  14 років тому

    @RaceBandit He's an ally at that point, so you can't attack him. Even if you could though, he'll rip your characters to pieces, ending their lives even sooner.

  • @OckSlayer
    @OckSlayer 12 років тому +1

    The road to Hell is paved with good intentions. We can't forgive one's misdeeds because they meant well, or because there was someone bigger and badder than them.Alvis may've wanted a unified kingdom, but he kind of ended up losing it. And given his actions at Barhara, he might've even been aware who Dierdre originally was. For all the good he intended, he sure did a lot of bad.

  • @ExaltedUriel
    @ExaltedUriel 10 років тому +2

    Man, I really want to get into the Fire Emblem series with Awakening for 3DS, but I don't have the money to. It's a shame too, I played the demo for it and it was really great =/

    • @mage1the2dark
      @mage1the2dark 6 років тому

      I don't know if you still have that problem, but have you tried emulating the games? Even Citra works fine now.

  • @YuubiTimberwolf
    @YuubiTimberwolf 10 років тому +1

    That reminds me of the first Fire Emblem or its remake "Shadow Dragon" where you play the game, just to get the Bad Ending with the massage "you should have collect all star items (have forgett the names of it x"D) at this point BEFORE you know that you need them!" Really, i played the game AGAIN after this with a guide to get all x"D

    • @kikker_g2747
      @kikker_g2747 9 років тому

      same thing as in fe sword if seals, if you dont have al the sacred weapons you dont get the good ending

    • @hiphopstrongman
      @hiphopstrongman 9 років тому

      +Blackzero Well, I think Timberwolf mentioned the Starsphere and the Lightsphere, not the Zodiac fragments. The same concept exists in both the originals and the remakes.

  • @CloverLovesTT
    @CloverLovesTT 10 років тому +4

    Oh, Goddamn it, Alvis!

  • @PragmaticAntithesis
    @PragmaticAntithesis 7 років тому +2

    I'm surprised they haven't done this again in another FE.

  • @whoisthisgit
    @whoisthisgit  14 років тому

    @LoafOfPint I had to, because people need to know the events leading to this endings that make it so terrible. Though it did end up taking more time than I expected.

  • @toadettegurl
    @toadettegurl 13 років тому

    Hold that thought, I actually laughed my ass off when he said it was the midpoint. Fuckin awesome dude. You've made me laugh for the day.

  • @juicyjuustar121
    @juicyjuustar121 7 років тому +2

    There are quite a few FE games where there is a group of baddies controlling another group or kingdom and using their power to take over. FE7 takes it to the extreme though, Team Nergal(I dont think they have a name) is controlling the Black Fang, who take over Bern to make the whole continent murder each other.

  • @AceTheSlayer75
    @AceTheSlayer75 11 років тому

    I remember playing through this part in the game.....completely blown away by what had happened. Sure, it's only halfway but dang, you've worked so hard and you feel like everything is set right and THEN you have to watch everyone die. What's worse, it's all because of someone who is supposedly your friend.
    Well written story, but dang if it's not depressing.

  • @binhnguyenphamnguyen3422
    @binhnguyenphamnguyen3422 10 років тому

    Damn, i thought the plan of Zephiel and the dragons was so incredibly evil, for he wishing to eradicate mankind in a Rau-Le Creuset style, and the ending of FE 7, when old man Athos gives his prophecy, made me feel both chill and excited to see how i can join the actions. But now this video truly showed me what is true "mastermind" and "evil plans" are. Nintendo sure made marvelous games before, but not for the recent years.

    • @Vanduhn
      @Vanduhn 10 років тому +4

      It gets even better later on (or well, it was even better before if you could read the intro), because then child hunts start to happen all over the continent to get sacrifices for the dark god. FE 4 is pretty dark, probably the darkest in the whole series.

  • @twixthehyena
    @twixthehyena 9 років тому +1

    oh crap... This changed my view of Fire Emblem Franchise... WHY ON EARTH CAN'T THEIR UNIVERSE PASS A COUPLE OF YEARS WITHOUT SHIT HAPPENING?

    • @TheBanishedWind
      @TheBanishedWind 5 років тому

      Actually, this was a few centuries before Marth's time.

  • @Davtwan
    @Davtwan 13 років тому

    *upon seeing the first meteor at 3:26 *
    ... what? ...what!? ...WHAT!?
    The dread and depression of this... holy shit. I know Fire Emblem (which is also one of my favorite series) can be quite dark, but... this takes the cake. This makes any other dark storyline in the series look like sunshine, rainbows and lollipops.
    I partly saw this coming since it was obvious Alvin was weak-minded, but I thought there would be some intervention to stop this.
    I mean... fuck... I'm speechless.

  • @Matezoide
    @Matezoide 3 роки тому

    Incredible how the game still manages to make you feel bad for Arvis during the second part. Genealogy is the best FE game

  • @nikoniko667
    @nikoniko667 12 років тому

    you know.....seeing these vids......im feeling like plating all the fire emblems just for the sake i saw these vid and i like this!

  • @Auriono
    @Auriono 11 років тому +1

    I think Manfloy is more similar to Aizen from Bleach then he is to Frieza. They both know nearly everything about everything and they engineered the birth of a genetic freak of nature that they would later manipulate as according to their master plans.

  • @kaedecheesecake
    @kaedecheesecake 4 роки тому

    When a video from 2010 is better than alot of the content we get these days

  • @MoonyRanalie
    @MoonyRanalie 10 років тому +1

    Get to FE5 despite the statue issue. It's an incredible game. I personally enjoyed it a lot more than Genealogy.

  • @PuppyPaw427
    @PuppyPaw427 12 років тому

    well is a complex game of war, and im sure he ust wanted to fully explain how these conflicts arose and took over the nations. also, it builds into emotional effect instead of "so his wife gets kidnapped, brainwashed, and later on he dies. the end." this two part video actually puts a lot more impact to the ending.

  • @AlexMoby
    @AlexMoby 7 років тому +1

    F*ck, this game is actually serving some GOT realness.

  • @everbran
    @everbran 10 років тому +1

    So it'd be cool to see you play the back half of this game or at least the highlights of it!

  • @Jotari
    @Jotari 9 років тому

    You've (hopefully) played Thracia by now but since no one else seems to mention it I will for posterity's sake. You don't find statues of the victims of the Battle of Balhalla. Well you find one person who was there but she was turned into a statue during the course of that game not during the battle. It was however an idea they were thinking of putting in mentioned in the devloper's notes.

    • @TheBanishedWind
      @TheBanishedWind 5 років тому

      Brigid got amnesia as a result of Belhalla and was only turned to stone by Veld to be made a Deadlord, which she will if you don't get that Extra Chapter where you save her.
      The only canon Deadlord that had a name we know was Reydrick.

  • @awildpineapple9201
    @awildpineapple9201 9 років тому +5

    This is why in fire emblem awakening killing alvis feels so good

  • @Zedta
    @Zedta 12 років тому +2

    Alvis would have been hated by everyone had the developers didn't make him 1) somewhat manipulated/ controlled by the Dark Sect and later Yurius and 2) atone at the end, helping us even (the thing with Sigurd and Deidre's ghosts was creepy =_=!). It's the same for Istar. We have enemies who are not all darkness, but they are terrible terrible enough.
    For the whole 2nd generation, I always think of Yurius as a kid, because he actually has nothing other than the bad traits lol.

  • @REALTachikomaia
    @REALTachikomaia 12 років тому

    I liked these lastly videos of you. I'll play FE again, befeore i got bored for some reason vinculated to the lv up, but don't remenber. Anyway, i was thinking... "what about if...?" And that happen. But they have to create a lot of guys after...
    Phew, what a story, and you described it very well, really. I was thinking days ago that, Bahamut lagoon was sad, but compared to this is very happy.
    Now Im remenbering a scene in FF6: Right after maked peace with the espers, the bad guys came.

  • @Guthixflare77
    @Guthixflare77 13 років тому

    They may as well of said "There have been few survivors"...

  • @crashkojote5627
    @crashkojote5627 7 років тому +3

    That took a long time explaining.
    Fire Emblem seems complicated enough for me to love it ^^