TEMPEST 2000 - BIGPEMU VS SATURN VS PS1
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
- The new Atari Jaguar Emulator known as BigPEmu can do some truly stunning things with old Jaguar games. One game that can really show an improvement using this emulator is Tempest 2000. With 3X speed set for the CPU, this thing can make this classic shooter look ultra smooth... but how does it compare to The Sega Saturn and Playstation versions?
Let's take a look.
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The Jag version could have been a lot faster and higher resolution. One thing on the Jag version is it is processing all the music and sound on the DSP, whereas the Saturn and PS version are just streaming the music. Also the Jag version does most of the effects with the Blitter when it could have been sped up drastically if done on the RISC GPU and Object Processor. On top of that to save cost (make more money) Atari wanted this keeping to a 2MB cart, whereas the Saturn and PS did not have any memory limitations. Would have been awesome to see a Jag CD version of this game.
Now we need a Saturn emulator with an overclock function. I think every gen 5 and 6 system has an emulator that supports overclocking BUT the Saturn now.
I would add that the Saturn version has noticeable colour banding in the polygon fills and the Playstation version has terrible looking score and lives graphics. For me an accelerated Jaguar (Emulator) would be the preferred option. It also has the original tracker module soundtrack, which is very dear to my heart, not that the CD soundtrack isn't excellent :)
The Jaguar version has sick gradient cycle shading over the Saturn and PC ports(of the time). It definitely looked better even at 25fps
Oh wow I didn't know this emulator was the same one as the Atari Jaguar games for the Atari 50 The Anniversary Celebration which I bought and enjoy before finding out about this emulator. Thanks for sharing info and emulator. :)
AFAIK the original PlayStation version was the only one of the three to support rotary controls in a way that was actually acquirable at its release.
Jaguar had rotary controls but the controller was never made and even getting a modded controller to work requires a special code.
The PlayStation version accepts a mouse as a rotary controller and it works 100% the way you would expect, though I think it tracks backwards?
The Saturn version crashes to the CD Player if you have a mouse plugged in (at least in emulation it does).
I used to know people who worked at High Voltage Software, so I do know the main programmer for Tempest 2000. I still remember when I tried to buy it on the Jag, the software store normally got 50 or more copies of a game but they only got 3 copies of Jag version of Tempest 2000, and this was near Chicago in a big mall. BTW he was with me when I tried to buy the Jag version of the game. I just wish I could remember the cheat for the Jag version of T2K.
wow that is an awesome memory. Thank you for sharing that. Really appreciate it.
Great video. This is some of the best of UA-cam. Thanks!
I couldn't get a hold of a Jaguar to play Tempest 2000 so I had to make do with playing the unlocked version on the PSX, which was still a decent game in spite of the muted colors & audio.
Many years ago on my PC I used a special T2K emulator from the Llamasoft forums that plays T2K at the same type of speed and smoothness we can now get with BigPEmu, so I'm going to try that now.
BTW, the Saturn version is more faithful to the Jag version while having better framerates...pity that the Melt-O-Vision effects are so terrible.
The T2K emulator was my favorite emulator at least until Atari 50 was released. Also, I believe the programmer for the Jag and Saturn versions had more time to work on the Saturn version of the game.
So...I got my Jaguar in 1994 along with Tempest 2000 (and other games). I don't know what it is but the Saturn port doesn't look right...or maybe it's the sound of the shots. It just feels off and I bet the PSX version does as well (I haven't made it that far yet).
Edit* Yep, something feels wonky on the PSX version as well. I still haven't pinpointed it yet. I love the colors on it however as they do pop-off the screen.
yeah there is a noticeable difference for sure. I now prefer to play Tempest 2000 on the BigP Emulator or on the Atari 50 collection. Both of those are actually the same emulator and they are very very accurate. Love that game. Its one of my all time favorites.
Although I never player the playstation version, the Saturn version always bugged me because the voice samples were tied to the blaster/sound effects volume and not the music volume in the jaguar version. So you had to choose between lowered voice samples or lowered music.
Say this... jag far, jag far, jag far... jag war, jag war, jag war. Pretend there is no U in there at all... and it isn't a wire.
The thing was developed in the UK. I would say its creators would call it a Jag oo are
'64 bit' as kicked by 2 32 bit systems on its behind. Thx! Very illustrative of the meagre power of the Jag
Great video!
There were some gameplay problems in the ports, like the spikes taking too long to shoot down. it was detailed in a post by YaK around the time of release, but I don't know where to find it now.
correct on the sony port above level 70 it got really buggy and quite annoying.. the atari jag version played superb...and i actually completed it back in the day which was a massive feat for me!
@@cresshead I still wish to complete it one day! I think level 65-70 is about where I got last I played... it gets very hard then!
@@msd5808 yeh.. it's very tough and just gets NUTS above 70+ .. you really have to be dialled in.. i only ever completed tempest 2000 once ......was a brilliant feeling but geez it was by the skin of my teeth!
I want a Jaguar but they're so hard to find for reasonable money
For me, I think that the Saturn version holds up as my pick.
This game is actually getting a physical copy on switch that goes on sale tomorrow. Tempest 2000 that is.
I wonder how that version will be?
Where can i get it? i see no info on this
ok Limited Run are doing Tempest 4000 ...not 2000 (ordered anyway) i,m hoping for TXK and Space Giraffe physicals ... i can dream
@@budge1972 Yah I saw today it was 4000 not 2000
really hoping for an unlockable 2000 like they've done in the past.
How did you get the Jaguar Bios to start with the game on BigPemu? Can't seem to find it in the options. That start up is pretty nostalgic to me.
You will have to find the bios files online and then set it in the options do that the emulator uses them. Try archive.org I think thsts where I got mine.
@@supermegagrafx64 Thank you, awesome, the emu labels it as 'Boot rom image'. I kept overlooking it as 'Bios'. I downloaded the bios and set it as the boot rom image, works great. Can't play Jag without that charming intro :)
NICE! Game on dude. Love The Jaguar!
How is Alien vs. Predator playing on this?
It plays really great. Better than on a real Jaguar. Being able to customize buttons on a controller makes a huge difference plus the game runs smooth and without any glitches that I have seen. Its impressive.
Tempest 2000 on playstation is 'buggy' above level 70+ with my time playing it back in the day on playstation compared to tempest 2000 on the atari jaguar.
Looks like less sprites being pushed on ps1
Have you found out how to do per game settings? I would love to have a tutorial on that the website talks about it but I can't get it to work for inputs or anything.
Did you copy the .bigcfg file from the %APPDATA% folder to where your ROM us and rename it to match? (With the .bigcfg extension)
@@macdox69 yes
@@macdox69 And the extension is .bigpcfg.
@@macdox69 Does it work for you?
@@AxiomofDiscord Yes
Any way to play Tempest 3000? my Samsung Nuon died years ago
Jaguwire ?
It's not the first time I heard it pronounced like that, and it's always someone with an American accent, trying to pronounce it like a Brit. However, that's not the correct pronunciation because it's pronounced "Jag-wahr" in American accent, and "Jag-you-are" in British accent.
T2000 on retroarch sucks balls, unplayable
The low frame rate of the pregame screens on the Saturn kills me, and the PS version is ugly, so fantasy Jaguar hits the sweet spot for me. Jeff Minter is a GOAT at supporting obscure hardware with weird and trippy games
BTW it's pronounced 'Fart-u-ar' ;-)