I got more old computer stuff | Unfridging No. 4

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  • Опубліковано 14 лип 2024
  • #retro #computer #technology Haven't done one of these in a while, so here it is. Unfridging is the channel's term for unboxing, but this isn't a pure unboxing as many things have already been unboxed.. it's just showing what we've accumulated recently through purchases or gifts from viewers.
    00:00 Intro
    01:54 Martin Research Microcomputer Design book
    08:37 Digikit 8/16 Brochures
    13:58 Homebrew S100 Computer
    17:55 digital group Flyers
    30:37 Terra Systems 1010 CP/M portable computer
    35:22 JUDGE digital group user newsletter
    37:38 Digikit Reaction Tennis game
    46:25 Prototype Z80 computer or terminal
    51:03 DRC ZRT-80 single board terminal
    52:17 Trimmer resistors for 1974 terminal
    54:59 MITS 1200 Calculator PCBs
    55:51 Unbuilt Electronic Systems Modem Kit
    57:48 Unbuilt Electrolabs ESAT E200 board
    59:10 Microsysteme Mazel II single board computer
    1:01:15 IBM PS/2 L40 laptop
    1:08:33 Soviet ZX81 Clone
    1:11:58 Syquest S306r 5mb removable hard disk drive
    1:14:45 "Robot Stack's" Unsolved Mysteries appeal for 5mb cartridges
    1:15:16 IBM YD-380 1.2mb floppy (unused?)
    1:16:39 Conclusion
    1:17:11 Dislike Copter
    Martin Research Microcomputer Design book: www.jkearney.com/8008/Microco...
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  • @TechTimeTraveller
    @TechTimeTraveller  10 місяців тому +11

    This is a long one.. I've put in chapters so everyone can jump around or come and go as they want to. Cheers!

  • @LetsPlayKeldeo
    @LetsPlayKeldeo 10 місяців тому +14

    I have to say it makes me really happy seeing other people beeing so hyped about the stuff they got and saving history in the process !

    • @TechTimeTraveller
      @TechTimeTraveller  10 місяців тому +3

      Saving history while having fun. It ought to be the law!

    • @LetsPlayKeldeo
      @LetsPlayKeldeo 10 місяців тому +2

      @@TechTimeTraveller amen ! The stuff you do with early computers I do with video games and tech arround it. Its a crazy feeling knowing these units have been hand assembled and are possibly the last ones of their kind. Rock on !

  • @hoofie2002
    @hoofie2002 10 місяців тому +4

    You know you are getting old when the first laptop you ever used in your job ( the IBM laptop) pops up in a vintage computing video.

  • @deanhutsell3144
    @deanhutsell3144 10 місяців тому +8

    I built a reaction tennis game similar to the one in your video when I was in high school. The Magnavox company in my town sponsored an Explorer Scout program for future engineers in the late 70's. The big difference for us was we were given the task of laying out our PCB with tape on Mylar film. Unfortunately, mine eventually was thrown away, for whatever reason. Just one of the many experiences that sent me on my career path in electronics.

    • @TechTimeTraveller
      @TechTimeTraveller  10 місяців тому

      That sounds awesome! Yeah I don't think many of these kits regardless of who made them would have survived unfortunately as they often look like random electronics junk. Were the designs you laid out pre-made? Or did you have to come up with your own?

    • @deanhutsell3144
      @deanhutsell3144 10 місяців тому +1

      @@TechTimeTraveller The circuit was already designed and parts placement was defined. We were allowed to run our traces any way we wanted. Of course, there was a lot of "assistance" from the engineers, but each layout was unique and had our name etched into the copper as well. They provided a custom enclosure to finish it off. Sadly, I don't even have pictures of it.

  • @absurdengineering
    @absurdengineering 10 місяців тому +3

    The horizontal-mount potentiometers should be adaptable to vertical installation. I hacked those up plenty of times in the late 80s. Straighten the two legs, and solder a wire to the wiper terminal to make a third leg. The two big wiper legs can be cut off. If you do it carefully nobody will even notice unless they know what to look for.

    • @pikadroo
      @pikadroo 10 місяців тому +1

      agreed.😀

  • @douro20
    @douro20 10 місяців тому +7

    Interesting to see so many Western parts in that ZX clone, and it looks to be very early. The chips marked "T" are from Tungsram.

    • @ugencz8364
      @ugencz8364 10 місяців тому

      It wasn't exacly unobtanium for Eastern Bloc countries, they couldn't manufacture a lot of chips so they needed to somehow import them. They were very rare among hobbyists tho.

  • @RuudErik
    @RuudErik 10 місяців тому +2

    Regarding the "Apple 1 Motherboard": Way back in the day when I got my brand new VIC 20 the local computer store had some cartridge port expanders that were labeled as motherboards. Basically it was a circuit board with the edge connectors and switches to change which one was enabled.

  • @bcd113
    @bcd113 Місяць тому

    My dad was a digital engineer in the memory department. he kept a lot of the things he worked on for me to play with so we have buckets of boards in our basement. I should let him know they might be worth something... and feel kind of bad for playing with them as a kid. He also kept a few of the dev models, including a display of the first solid state drive he built.

  • @raycreveling1583
    @raycreveling1583 10 місяців тому +2

    I've never seen a Syquest 5mb. We accepted 44, 88 and 200mb disk at the printing company I worked at when they were popular. They weren't known for reliability and came in foam case, in the event they were dropped.

    • @TechTimeTraveller
      @TechTimeTraveller  10 місяців тому

      They seem to have been a short lived and rare thing.

    • @timlocke3159
      @timlocke3159 10 місяців тому

      @@TechTimeTraveller They were killed off by Iomega's Zip and Jaz drives, in spite of being more reliable, which, of course, isn't saying much.

  • @edmonk4912
    @edmonk4912 10 місяців тому +1

    That IBM PS2 laptop was pretty cool

  • @alexandermirdzveli3200
    @alexandermirdzveli3200 10 місяців тому +2

    It's been a true delight to watch. Thanks a lot!

  • @rustywidebottom4678
    @rustywidebottom4678 10 місяців тому

    LOL the Unsolved Mysteries bit!!! 😂❤

  • @GianmarioScotti
    @GianmarioScotti 10 місяців тому +2

    Wire wrap work requires a younger brain and eyes than mine.

  • @chasonlapointe
    @chasonlapointe 10 місяців тому

    I really enjoy seeing whatever piece of old tech you've managed to get your hands on in these unfridging videos and I found the Unsolved Mysteries inclusion to be hilarious!

    • @TechTimeTraveller
      @TechTimeTraveller  10 місяців тому

      Thank you! I spent two hours on the soundboard101 site trying to get its AI Robert Stack voice to pronounce the words properly. 😀

  • @pikadroo
    @pikadroo 10 місяців тому +1

    When you really learn what is going on in a computer. I mean, everyone kind of gets it, i am not saying you don’t really know… but when you really nail it down and wrap your mind around it. You’ll look at the world differently… it’s amazing any of it works at all.

  • @ebenking3567
    @ebenking3567 10 місяців тому

    We had one of the external "hard drives" at 1:22:23 back around 1990, and 2(?) cartridges for it. The carts (basically large floppies) died before long, probably of bad blocks or flaky magnetic material, and replacements were in the $60+ range which was too rich for my blood as a starving college student. It ran through the serial port (no SCSI on the 128). IIRC you could use part of its capacity as a print spool, which really helped.

    • @timlocke3159
      @timlocke3159 10 місяців тому

      A friend of mine had a Syquest drive for his Amiga and it was faster and more reliable than the Iomega Zip and Jaz drives that knocked Syquest out of the market.

    • @ebenking3567
      @ebenking3567 10 місяців тому

      @timlocke3159 I'm sure. We had a SQ 88 for work, and I had a Zip 100 at home, and the Syquest was miles better because it was a hard drive. I bet the SQ 250(?) was even better.

  • @souta95
    @souta95 10 місяців тому +2

    As soon as I saw the ports on the back of that Z80 Prototype computer I was thinking it was part of a PoS system... Those look similar to the connectors used by IBM/Toshiba before everything became RS-485 and USB.

  • @absurdengineering
    @absurdengineering 10 місяців тому

    The point of sale computer board is definitely point-of-sale! Those weird connectors on one side are what POS people use so that end users can’t really connect any random cable into those ports. You’ll still see those kind of oddball connectors on older POS terminals still in use. That one must have been a beast - the 512k of RAM must have held a local copy of the transaction log and perhaps the PLU lookup table. A wonderful bit of history there!

    • @TechTimeTraveller
      @TechTimeTraveller  10 місяців тому

      Manty thanks! I wondered what the unusual looking ports were about. This makes sense. Now if only I could find the production machine that evolved from this!

  • @Inadvisablescience
    @Inadvisablescience 10 місяців тому

    I love the robots from Impossible Mission in the chyron!

  • @brianlawson4049
    @brianlawson4049 10 місяців тому +2

    I had one of those White/DRC terminal boards connected to a Cherry keyboard installed in a SWTPc CT-1024 cabinet back in the early 1980's. Quite a Franken-Terminal. It worked pretty well though. I used on my ATR8000 CP/M computer.

    • @TechTimeTraveller
      @TechTimeTraveller  10 місяців тому +1

      Neat! I'm thinking I might try using it with the custom S100 machine I got also. Hopefully it works.

  • @mohinderkaur6671
    @mohinderkaur6671 10 місяців тому +1

    Bishop graphics made those precut templates to make the PCBS

  • @Inadvisablescience
    @Inadvisablescience 10 місяців тому

    "When your hard drive sounds like a chipmunk on meth..." I love that!

  • @FullMetalFab
    @FullMetalFab 9 місяців тому

    I've got some old Soviet ZX clones, got them cheap enough. One has its keyboard and another had Beta disk inter face controller. Got an old oil pump controller box to put one of them in.

  • @kurtiunlisted8589
    @kurtiunlisted8589 10 місяців тому

    I have enjoyed this 😊

  • @coryengel
    @coryengel 10 місяців тому

    “I’m trying to limit my collecting activities these days”… while spending 80 minutes opening up new acquisitions. :)

  • @jjones503
    @jjones503 9 місяців тому

    You've got a big fridge! 🤣

  • @jaredwright5917
    @jaredwright5917 10 місяців тому +2

    I'd try asking people in the ham radio community about the Microkit stuff. I go to hamfests here in Michigan, and I've talked to several people over the past few years who were involved in the early computer industry here in one way or another.

    • @TechTimeTraveller
      @TechTimeTraveller  10 місяців тому

      That's an idea. Lots of overlap between those communities. Yeah I've asked around everywhere I can think of so far but no dice. Seems strange.. they clearly had some mass production going on, but so far not a single other survivor has turned up. Weird.

  • @tomteiter7192
    @tomteiter7192 9 місяців тому

    ooo bubble memory! These are missing from my collection :)

  • @LifetimeMomentsVideo
    @LifetimeMomentsVideo 10 місяців тому

    What would be neat is to do a mini-documentary on one of your 70's collection in 80s style editing with the Mindset Computer. All you would need are two VCRs and a VHS camcorder or better yet, a super8 film camera and a super8 to VHS converter.

    • @TechTimeTraveller
      @TechTimeTraveller  10 місяців тому

      I do have some working cam corners. Used to have a windup brownie 8mm film camera but I think the film for that is long out of production.

  • @RyanDanielG
    @RyanDanielG 10 місяців тому

    Love your vids

  • @snooks5607
    @snooks5607 10 місяців тому +2

    8:28 also as with most old books, it's free as a pdf

  • @douro20
    @douro20 10 місяців тому +2

    I had an L40SX for a while, until one of the keyboard ribbons ripped on it. I had it booting from a CF card.

  • @mountainkingelectronics
    @mountainkingelectronics 10 місяців тому +1

    I've been looking for that Martin Research book but because of the common name of the book and because I don't know the author or authors so finding the correct book has been difficult to hunt down.

    • @TechTimeTraveller
      @TechTimeTraveller  10 місяців тому

      The search terms I used in my saved searches on ebay were exactly: "microcomputer design" Martin
      Took a while.. but the books do come up from time to time.

    • @TechTimeTraveller
      @TechTimeTraveller  9 місяців тому

      The book has popped up on ebay. www.ebay.com/itm/394895446212

  • @SaanMigwell
    @SaanMigwell 10 місяців тому

    That giant port on the back is an IDE port.

  • @rutabagasteu
    @rutabagasteu 10 місяців тому

    I find your videos interesting.

  • @winstonsmith478
    @winstonsmith478 10 місяців тому +1

    I wonder if a 7.4V LiPo would work for that Terra Systems 1010.

    • @TechTimeTraveller
      @TechTimeTraveller  10 місяців тому

      It might. The only documentation I've found is a government spec sheet for a project.. it says 8V lead acid was the original. Looks like 4 d cells strapped together. 7 might be enough. I'm wondering if the plug in just charged the battery rather than running the machine.

    • @kepanoid
      @kepanoid 10 місяців тому

      @@TechTimeTravellerA single lead cell is nominally 2 volts, but four of them in a regular full discharged state would be about 7 volts. A fully charged 2 cell LiPo is 8.4 volts and drops below 7 very late in the discharge, so it would work perfectly. The LiPos are quite picky with charging, and would need a low-voltage cut-off, though.

  • @tobyCornish
    @tobyCornish 10 місяців тому

    even the Soviets knew that keyboard was just wrong

  • @JenniferinIllinois
    @JenniferinIllinois 10 місяців тому +1

    That Soviet clone. I can smell the oppression. 🤣

  • @uni-byte
    @uni-byte 10 місяців тому +1

    Vector PCBs had nothing to do with Vector Graphics.

    • @absurdengineering
      @absurdengineering 10 місяців тому

      Vector is still in business :)

    • @uni-byte
      @uni-byte 10 місяців тому

      @@absurdengineering Yup, at least the one making the prototype PCBs. Expensive as heck though!!!

  • @cpm1003
    @cpm1003 10 місяців тому +2

    Holy cow! Actual bubble memory in that Terra computer!? I wonder if it works?

    • @TechTimeTraveller
      @TechTimeTraveller  10 місяців тому +1

      I hope so. 40 year old bubble memory though.. 😬

    • @pikadroo
      @pikadroo 10 місяців тому +1

      smbakeryt just did a video on bubble memory a while back. apparently if you wanted to fill that spot to get full memory you can the part is still available and i think if i recall was really cheap. It's a long lasting memory type.

  • @nulious
    @nulious 10 місяців тому

    1:01:30 proto- IBM Stinkpad

  • @user-fh2fm7vr4m
    @user-fh2fm7vr4m 10 місяців тому

    @27:30: Mail still has multiple classes in the US as far as I am aware :)

    • @TechTimeTraveller
      @TechTimeTraveller  10 місяців тому +1

      I don't know if we have that in Canada anymore. It's been a long time since I've seen 1st class stamped on anything.

    • @medes5597
      @medes5597 10 місяців тому +1

      Canada Post still has first and standard class. They however have made it so it refers to size and type of mail rather than speed of delivery or priority. I think first class is now only for personalised letter mail, which most people don't receive these days.

  • @mohinderkaur6671
    @mohinderkaur6671 10 місяців тому

    49:00 wtd inc computer. Dump out the EEPROM would be able to find out what this does.

  • @RobertLock1978
    @RobertLock1978 10 місяців тому

    No link to the Microcomputer Design book? :(

  • @hypnotised-clover
    @hypnotised-clover 10 місяців тому

    when is the next sol prototype video?

    • @TechTimeTraveller
      @TechTimeTraveller  10 місяців тому

      Hopefully in another month. Trying to get the PCB made.

    • @hypnotised-clover
      @hypnotised-clover 10 місяців тому

      @@TechTimeTraveller I was just asking because I feared you had abandoned it.

    • @TechTimeTraveller
      @TechTimeTraveller  10 місяців тому

      @otters-vintage-all-sorts No. It's just a complex project - a bit more than what I was dealing with with the TVT. Also trying to acquire parts can be a challenge sometimes.

  • @lascheque
    @lascheque 10 місяців тому

    Man, that dislike copter is ruthless!

  • @uwezimmermann5427
    @uwezimmermann5427 10 місяців тому

    33:50 "these 1-minute shorts videos really s#&¤%#¤"
    Yes, they do, and I actively block them from all my subscribed channels. And honestly I don't know why any of the channels I subscribe to actually even bothers to make these. I mean, youtube does not force you to do it... Does your target audience actually bother to watch those?

    • @TechTimeTraveller
      @TechTimeTraveller  10 місяців тому

      UA-cam doesn't force you but I've noticed everything performs better when you do shorts. It's one of those things where I suspect but cannot prove they push Shorts producers a little more in their competition with tiktok.

  • @pikadroo
    @pikadroo 10 місяців тому

    those pots, the two legs (bent straight) should fit in the board and then just attach one of the back tabs to where the center pin was. stop chasing these parts it's gonna cost way more and you're never going to get an honest part seller. just ain't gonna happen... on ebay.

  • @kenpartridge
    @kenpartridge 10 місяців тому +3

    It’s refreshing how the newsletter said Merry Christmas and not Happy Holidays.

    • @hicknopunk
      @hicknopunk 10 місяців тому +4

      That is because an individual sent it, stores have to "play it safe" rather than cater to one minority worshiping pagan gods in December.

    • @medes5597
      @medes5597 10 місяців тому +5

      Its infuriating that you felt that was something anyone wanted you to point out.

    • @mikekleiner3741
      @mikekleiner3741 10 місяців тому +4

      It is refreshing that times have changed. Maybe with a bit more time the mental illness known as religion is extinguished.

  • @SellamAbraham
    @SellamAbraham 10 місяців тому

    Mail still has classes ;)

  • @brookerobertson2951
    @brookerobertson2951 10 місяців тому +2

    i like pooter. bleep bleep..!!!