I lived in Grenada for ten years and never expected it to not be Grenada. I was always surprised when people came down and expected it to be like where they were in their home country. My response was to always ask them why they were there. The charm was that it was different. New experiences, new processes, new products.. . it was delightful.
Missed your videos glad to see your doing well. Been here 3 yrs now and your on point with what you say me im good i aint never going back not even to visit. I think it takes time to find your way and your lane thats my opinion stay up and enjoy!
Driving on pothole damaged, narrow windy roads in Jamaica is one of the biggest cons of living in Jamaica. There are a lot of cliffs without guardrails and shoulders that make driving very scary here. Plus we have taxi drivers who don't care about driving safety. But I still love my life here. So I understand your experience exactly
I was wondering where you were. I'm glad you are doing good. Great video. You make the cons sound like pros. I've driven in Grenada and the experience is stressful but less hostile than driving in the UK. Taxis are expensive so I also take the bus. Take care and look forward to the next video.
I think all of the roads in Grenada can do with markings in the middle of the roads and also much better signs and barriers especially for foreigners who don't know the roads
I am Bajan living in New Jersey. I have actually been following your channel for about 3 years. So that’s most of your move to Grenada. You seem a lot more comfortable now than you did in previous videos. I think you may have finally completed the assimilation process and that is also evident in how you approach laying out the cons. I noticed that when you mention Barbados, it is mostly in contrast. The truth is Barbados is small, but you can still find very rural areas in the interior and on the eastern side of the country. But on the southern and western side you are mostly correct on the development. In those areas, the real estate has become prohibitively expensive for those living on an average 9-5 salary. The real estate is now priced in U,S Dollars and agents are mostly from Europe or focused on selling Barbados to the highest bidder. So that’s my biggest gripe with the so called “development”. On the positive side, the country has developed a lot of conveniences that I have become accustomed to, like handling most applications and transactions online and reliable public transportation for the most part. I like the idea of limiting development on these islands, but I do appreciate infrastructure development and convenience of services, like fast reliable internet and online services. I love the Caribbean as a whole and I think we would both love each other’s little islands. Barbados and many of its southern neighbors have had longstanding warm relations and that will remain and may even get stronger when the ferry system is built.
Thanks for your kind words. Yes, my own father and aunt (born and bred in Grenada) prefer Barbados over the Spice Isle thanks to your island's stellar infrastructure!
I'm glad you shared this. Most of what you said doesn't sound like a deal breaker to me. I haven't made the move to the Caribbean yeat but the time is fast approaching. I've visited 22 of the 28 Caribbean nations/territories and Grenada is on my short list of 3 where I am seriously considering making it my new home.
We have to change our mindset about the North American and European way. We have to remember that it takes money to develop and implement things. All in all it still beats the Stress in North America/ Europe.
Grenada is not problem free but compared to many other Caribbean islands is affordable and relatively peaceful. Barbados and Anguilla are prohibitively expensive. Jamaica and Trinidad have crime issues.
It's deliberately expensive, to make life difficult for the locals (keep them poor). It also makes it undesirable for other black people thinking of moving to the island. The island was much more beautiful and the people lived happier lives before the Europeans colonised the caribbean islands.
Did you say waiting an hour and a half in the bank? 😮 wow! It’s good to hear the reality though especially about transport. When I was in Barbados and also St.Kitts, people did drink and drive which wasn’t great
There are numerous factors why Grenadians are not hustlers like in the other neighouring Caribbean countries. A large percentage of Grenadians own land properties.
@@ExodusCollective, there is also a culture of inter-family connection in the outer parishes throughout rural Grenada, whereby people support each other in times of needs in the village communities.
#ZoeDarlin', how flexible is it to create "PERMACULTURE" on the #Grenada? Are there also existing "PERMACULTURE FARMS" you can buy as an "INVESTMENT"? Finally, what about #EcoTourismRetreats? #ThanksDear
@@dreamstarworld1 you can definitely create a permaculture farm or ecotourism retreat but there aren't many/any available to purchase off the peg. Happy to talk to you about options though - zoe@theexodus.co
@@ExodusCollective Hi Zoe, we are booked for the 12th Nov coming into Grenada. What are the laws regarding home ownership in Grenada for someone like myself who has "DUAL NATIONALITY" (British/Barbadian)??? Love some feedback!!1 Bless you dearest!!!
im in in St Vincent, the same slow stuff, customer service slow, call custmer service number, no answer, so youve got to go and see them in person, fortunately im near town, i dont drive, doesnt make sense, nothing really goes on here for me to get a car, i rent if anything, go on regular holidays more than spend on car, im in vincy because hardly any caucasians, no bs, no stress, and a peace of mind, and not going through tha regular everyday crap blackmen go through in babylon, im far more healthier and relaxed, been here since 2000, wasnt going to contribute another 400yrs in babylon, i dont miss london at all, maybe the club scene but thats all
Coming from another island that thrives on tourism and is ridiculous with the over development, over pricing, Grenada is definitely a charm. It is balanced, humbler not vain people and well mannered. Most folk still offer you a ride, and it was shocking to see that people didn't idolize work. I've sat behind the students in the Stadium during the Independence celebrations and they were the best behaved youth I've seen in many years. Minimize the rum, educate the people on substance abuse, tax the foreign junk food/ drinks harder and promote the local juices/ foods etc. Definitely control the speeding more! There is always room for improvement but the quality of life there is commendable.
Are you saying that we small islands should remain undeveloped to please the tourist, the same tourist who would rather go back to their big cities rather than live in these islands
For tropical islands, the Caribbean full stop is expensive. Barbados is now over developed Mia though a good PM has failed in knowing how to balance the life and happiness of her own people with that of maintaining tourism without giving over to outsiders.
CON reality is that xenophobia exists on the island. I had a long conversation with a local who admitted to me that they don’t like foreigners including black people from the uk. What I was told is true because I witnessed this for myself on many occasions. Of course, all locals are not like this. There are many locals who are very warm and welcoming.
The locals will warm to you once they get to know you. But some of them will mistreat you as a foreigner and give you attitude for absolutely no good reason.
This is a tricky one! I'd say there's very little xenophobia towards tourists as they contribute so much to the economy. However I agree with you that some/many Grenadians have a different attitude towards folks who decide to settle here. This may ruffle feathers but I think a some Grenadians are particularly bothered by some black folks who settle here. I think white folks get a different kind of treatment. I met a (no-white) 81-year-old who's been here for 53 years but is still called "come here" / foreigner! Plus the fact that those returning to the island are called JCBs. All that being said, I'd take a boat load of Grenadian bad mind of UK/US racism any day of the week. Here I have no worries about myself or my children being unalived because of the colour of our skin 🤷🏾♀️.
@@missmac7304The island is too small to handle anymore persons who wish to settle. Come visit enjoy and then go back to your home..no offense but we are just not up for crowds and citizens by the.
Zoe, Ive missed you and thank you for this video. I was concerned for you considering the mad responses to your Guardian article earlier this year. I hope all is well. I also appreciate the honest perspective of Cheryl and Doreen because I am in the process of applying for Grenadian citizenship by descent as I was born in the UK and my mother is Grenadian. It looks like the same arguments used against black people living in the UK is the same used for Grenada ie we are full up, taking up resources etc. Feeling as I do that I do not belong anywhere, Ive come to the conclusion Im prepared to be treated as a foreigner in a foreign land as opposed to being treated like a foreigner in the country of my birth. Whether I decide to reside in Grenada or another Caricom country, you have to weigh up the pros and cons and considering the very dark path the UK is going down at the moment, Id rather take my chances in the Caribbean.
@@missmac7304 Xenophobia is a worldwide growing phenomenon unfortunately. I think us in the diaspora can sometimes have a romanticised concept of unity in the Caribbean due to whatever trauma we’ve been through in the country of our birth. I watched a video a few months ago of the ex-prime minister of Grenada mocking the current prime minister for encouraging the diaspora to invest in the country so I’m not entirely surprised. Personally I am still at my research stage, however a couple of posts on UA-cam shouldn’t deter you from investing or living in a country especially, if like me, you have siblings and family in Grenada. Should xenophobia be a major problem, which is the downside of humans beings worldwide unfortunately, there are plenty of other Caribbean countries to choose from as it may be less painful to be treated as a foreigner in a location with no familial ties.
No it wouldn't be difficult there are lots of folks from all over the world here. I'd definitely recommend setting up a business here over taking away jobs from local people. To buy property and to establish a business you'd need to apply for an alien land holding licence.
Hi, glad to hear you're interested in Grenada. I'm a working single mom to two young kids so I don't have capacity to host you but can definitely help you plan a trip to the island. Do feel free to book a session with me calendly.com/theexoduscollective/discoverycall?preview_source=et_card&month=2024-06
The problem in Grenada is with the citizens by investment program. Because of this nonsense we the People of Grenada have to do without make do to accommodate these so called citizens. We are tired of this nonsense. Don't these people have countries to live in? Gas prices will go up because of the demand, we will have food shortages because of them. Too many foreigners settling in Grenada. We want our land back!
CBI is a complex issue. Very few CBI folks actually live in Grenada, most just want the passport. I wonder if folks could see where the money was being invested, would it help?
@@ExodusCollective, the Citizen by Investment (CBI) program is not isolated to the Caribbean. In those highly developed countries, wealthy immigrants are given residence status, because they are brining Millions of dollars to the new country.
Do The Men Also Have To…”Cover Their Shoulders”? If Not….THAT IS DISCRIMINATION ON GROUNDS OF GENDER. I Had/Have No Intention Of Visiting Grenada. Nonetheless, Given This Rule..Of Treating Women, In This Instance, As 2nd Class Citizens/Residents….I Could NEVER Visit Or Spend My Hard Earned Money In Such a Country/Political Culture. Human /Equal Rights Are For EVERYONE. Thank you For This Video.🌺
Patriarchal suppression of matriarchs, brainwashing and indoctrination. A female shop assistant made a comment to me over the fact that I wasn’t wearing a bra under my top. I was made to feel as though I had just committed some kind of sexual sin or crime by being in public without a bra.
So True. Thanks Again For The Video. My Perspective Is That It Would Be Much More Inclusive If The Grenada Government Department Concerned Stated That The Interview Process Is a Formal One So Clients/Applicants Should Dress In *FORMAL ATTIRE. That Way, No Gender Is Being Targeted For Attire Policing.
Most definitely, men has to have their shoulders covered when going to numerous offices..e.g..the health depts/hospital/govt&private offices, etc. Respect is due.
Thanks for sharing! I've visited 3 times and consider it high on my list to relocate.
Me too !
I lived in Grenada for ten years and never expected it to not be Grenada. I was always surprised when people came down and expected it to be like where they were in their home country. My response was to always ask them why they were there. The charm was that it was different. New experiences, new processes, new products.. . it was delightful.
Missed your videos glad to see your doing well. Been here 3 yrs now and your on point with what you say me im good i aint never going back not even to visit. I think it takes time to find your way and your lane thats my opinion stay up and enjoy!
Lol I'm with you on zero desire to be elsewhere. Also agree it can take time to find your feet in Grenada. Glad you're still watching the videos!
Driving on pothole damaged, narrow windy roads in Jamaica is one of the biggest cons of living in Jamaica. There are a lot of cliffs without guardrails and shoulders that make driving very scary here. Plus we have taxi drivers who don't care about driving safety. But I still love my life here. So I understand your experience exactly
Quite balanced! Absolutely agree that people spoil their chance of enjoying the island by constantly comparing it
I was wondering where you were. I'm glad you are doing good. Great video. You make the cons sound like pros. I've driven in Grenada and the experience is stressful but less hostile than driving in the UK. Taxis are expensive so I also take the bus. Take care and look forward to the next video.
Yes, silver linings to everything... Apart from the banking system 😄. I'm glad you're still watching and thanks for taking the time to comment 🙏🏾
Crime in Grenada is increasing slowly
I think all of the roads in Grenada can do with markings in the middle of the roads and also much better signs and barriers especially for foreigners who don't know the roads
I am Bajan living in New Jersey. I have actually been following your channel for about 3 years. So that’s most of your move to Grenada. You seem a lot more comfortable now than you did in previous videos. I think you may have finally completed the assimilation process and that is also evident in how you approach laying out the cons.
I noticed that when you mention Barbados, it is mostly in contrast. The truth is Barbados is small, but you can still find very rural areas in the interior and on the eastern side of the country. But on the southern and western side you are mostly correct on the development. In those areas, the real estate has become prohibitively expensive for those living on an average 9-5 salary. The real estate is now priced in U,S Dollars and agents are mostly from Europe or focused on selling Barbados to the highest bidder. So that’s my biggest gripe with the so called “development”. On the positive side, the country has developed a lot of conveniences that I have become accustomed to, like handling most applications and transactions online and reliable public transportation for the most part. I like the idea of limiting development on these islands, but I do appreciate infrastructure development and convenience of services, like fast reliable internet and online services. I love the Caribbean as a whole and I think we would both love each other’s little islands. Barbados and many of its southern neighbors have had longstanding warm relations and that will remain and may even get stronger when the ferry system is built.
Thanks for your kind words. Yes, my own father and aunt (born and bred in Grenada) prefer Barbados over the Spice Isle thanks to your island's stellar infrastructure!
I'm glad you shared this. Most of what you said doesn't sound like a deal breaker to me. I haven't made the move to the Caribbean yeat but the time is fast approaching. I've visited 22 of the 28 Caribbean nations/territories and Grenada is on my short list of 3 where I am seriously considering making it my new home.
So glad to see you back. I visit Grenada regularly a con for me or one of them is water availability. It can be turned off for a multitude of reasons.
Glad to see you're still watching 🙂. Stay tuned for a forthcoming video on the water situation and the solutions being sought
We have to change our mindset about the North American and European way. We have to remember that it takes money to develop and implement things.
All in all it still beats the
Stress in North America/ Europe.
1000%
Work life balance is important in Grenada.
I can't wait to come home.
Nice video! Beautiful island to visit! Loved visiting twice. The food is amazing!
It really is!
Hi there, good to see you still making videos about Grenada. I’m considering a visit one day 🙂
I really enjoyed this video. Thank you for your candor. 👍🏾
@@williegraves4680 thank you 🙏🏾
Grenada is not problem free but compared to many other Caribbean islands is affordable and relatively peaceful. Barbados and Anguilla are prohibitively expensive. Jamaica and Trinidad have crime issues.
Agreed 👍🏾
@@ExodusCollective I'm in Paris. Is Grenada crime free compared to other islands ?
@@reggiekaz4147 Not crime free but low crime rate
It's deliberately expensive, to make life difficult for the locals (keep them poor). It also makes it undesirable for other black people thinking of moving to the island. The island was much more beautiful and the people lived happier lives before the Europeans colonised the caribbean islands.
Am from Jamaica and I would encourage anyone to move here
The roads are definitely challenging in St. Lucia and breatherlysers would make a lot of sense!
Did you say waiting an hour and a half in the bank? 😮 wow! It’s good to hear the reality though especially about transport. When I was in Barbados and also St.Kitts, people did drink and drive which wasn’t great
Thank you. I appreciate your perspective.
@@richardhayman4868 you're most welcome 🙂
I usually come home every year for 3 weeks.
We are looking forward to be there 4 months per year in the near future.
Love love my Island Grenada 🇬🇩.
Coming back for extended visits is a good strategy 👍🏾
There are numerous factors why Grenadians are not hustlers like in the other neighouring Caribbean countries.
A large percentage of Grenadians own land properties.
Yes, access to gardens with fruit and veg (outside St George) definitely keeps food bills down
@@ExodusCollective, there is also a culture of inter-family connection in the outer parishes throughout rural Grenada, whereby people support each other in times of needs in the village communities.
I agree re work life balance being important
The cliff edge got me 👀!
#ZoeDarlin', how flexible is it to create "PERMACULTURE" on the #Grenada? Are there also existing "PERMACULTURE FARMS" you can buy as an "INVESTMENT"? Finally, what about #EcoTourismRetreats?
#ThanksDear
@@dreamstarworld1 you can definitely create a permaculture farm or ecotourism retreat but there aren't many/any available to purchase off the peg. Happy to talk to you about options though - zoe@theexodus.co
@@ExodusCollective Hi Zoe, we are booked for the 12th Nov coming into Grenada. What are the laws regarding home ownership in Grenada for someone like myself who has "DUAL NATIONALITY" (British/Barbadian)??? Love some feedback!!1 Bless you dearest!!!
The next time my friend travel's to "Greens" i just might accompany him/fam there. Jab!!🕺🇩🇲💚
im in in St Vincent, the same slow stuff, customer service slow, call custmer service number, no answer, so youve got to go and see them in person, fortunately im near town, i dont drive, doesnt make sense, nothing really goes on here for me to get a car, i rent if anything, go on regular holidays more than spend on car, im in vincy because hardly any caucasians, no bs, no stress, and a peace of mind, and not going through tha regular everyday crap blackmen go through in babylon, im far more healthier and relaxed, been here since 2000, wasnt going to contribute another 400yrs in babylon, i dont miss london at all, maybe the club scene but thats all
I get you. What I'd give for a night of dancing to something other than soca lol!
Coming from another island that thrives on tourism and is ridiculous with the over development, over pricing, Grenada is definitely a charm. It is balanced, humbler not vain people and well mannered. Most folk still offer you a ride, and it was shocking to see that people didn't idolize work. I've sat behind the students in the Stadium during the Independence celebrations and they were the best behaved youth I've seen in many years. Minimize the rum, educate the people on substance abuse, tax the foreign junk food/ drinks harder and promote the local juices/ foods etc. Definitely control the speeding more! There is always room for improvement but the quality of life there is commendable.
A very fair assessment of the island. I'm glad you enjoy it here too!
Are you saying that we small islands should remain undeveloped to please the tourist, the same tourist who would rather go back to their big cities rather than live in these islands
@@adrianphillips3673 no not at all. My opinion is that regenerative development has to be the solution.
So you want it to look live Cleveland?
We have terrific potholes in Derbyshire uk!
For tropical islands, the Caribbean full stop is expensive. Barbados is now over developed Mia though a good PM has failed in knowing how to balance the life and happiness of her own people with that of maintaining tourism without giving over to outsiders.
Its because they have to import most of the items.
I'm from Trinidad and I believe that the Caribbean is an expensive place to live in
I agree... Unless you're willing to live like a rasta up in the hills, which is an option I'm seriously considering!
How did you make out during the recent storm?
what is the rent for a Grenada hospital nurse in Grenada ?
Peace and good to see you. It's been a while. What's up with the shoulders covered?
It's a colonial legacy I think
Hey missed your videos
Thanks, it's been way too long. Glad you're still here 🙌🏾
If a family from the US wanted to move Down and purchase land and have their own well for water?
Welcome stranger, where have you been?
Your looking well
Thanks, I've been at home being very boring 😄. Glad you're still following!
Hey we finally arrived ... few days now... so far so good
Welcome to Grenada! I'm sure we'll bump into each other soon!
Welcome!
Zoe's relocation tours??😉
Maybe... 😄
CON reality is that xenophobia exists on the island. I had a long conversation with a local who admitted to me that they don’t like foreigners including black people from the uk. What I was told is true because I witnessed this for myself on many occasions. Of course, all locals are not like this. There are many locals who are very warm and welcoming.
The locals will warm to you once they get to know you. But some of them will mistreat you as a foreigner and give you attitude for absolutely no good reason.
This is a tricky one! I'd say there's very little xenophobia towards tourists as they contribute so much to the economy.
However I agree with you that some/many Grenadians have a different attitude towards folks who decide to settle here.
This may ruffle feathers but I think a some Grenadians are particularly bothered by some black folks who settle here. I think white folks get a different kind of treatment.
I met a (no-white) 81-year-old who's been here for 53 years but is still called "come here" / foreigner!
Plus the fact that those returning to the island are called JCBs.
All that being said, I'd take a boat load of Grenadian bad mind of UK/US racism any day of the week.
Here I have no worries about myself or my children being unalived because of the colour of our skin 🤷🏾♀️.
@@missmac7304The island is too small to handle anymore persons who wish to settle. Come visit enjoy and then go back to your home..no offense but we are just not up for crowds and citizens by the.
Zoe, Ive missed you and thank you for this video. I was concerned for you considering the mad responses to your Guardian article earlier this year. I hope all is well.
I also appreciate the honest perspective of Cheryl and Doreen because I am in the process of applying for Grenadian citizenship by descent as I was born in the UK and my mother is Grenadian. It looks like the same arguments used against black people living in the UK is the same used for Grenada ie we are full up, taking up resources etc. Feeling as I do that I do not belong anywhere, Ive come to the conclusion Im prepared to be treated as a foreigner in a foreign land as opposed to being treated like a foreigner in the country of my birth.
Whether I decide to reside in Grenada or another Caricom country, you have to weigh up the pros and cons and considering the very dark path the UK is going down at the moment, Id rather take my chances in the Caribbean.
@@missmac7304 Xenophobia is a worldwide growing phenomenon unfortunately. I think us in the diaspora can sometimes have a romanticised concept of unity in the Caribbean due to whatever trauma we’ve been through in the country of our birth. I watched a video a few months ago of the ex-prime minister of Grenada mocking the current prime minister for encouraging the diaspora to invest in the country so I’m not entirely surprised.
Personally I am still at my research stage, however a couple of posts on UA-cam shouldn’t deter you from investing or living in a country especially, if like me, you have siblings and family in Grenada. Should xenophobia be a major problem, which is the downside of humans beings worldwide unfortunately, there are plenty of other Caribbean countries to choose from as it may be less painful to be treated as a foreigner in a location with no familial ties.
Would it be difficult for a white Christian family from the US to integrate? Would they be able to find jobs, build businesses, build farms?
No it wouldn't be difficult there are lots of folks from all over the world here. I'd definitely recommend setting up a business here over taking away jobs from local people. To buy property and to establish a business you'd need to apply for an alien land holding licence.
I would like to go to Grenada can you host me i am living in Germany and i would like to meet some people
Hi, glad to hear you're interested in Grenada. I'm a working single mom to two young kids so I don't have capacity to host you but can definitely help you plan a trip to the island. Do feel free to book a session with me calendly.com/theexoduscollective/discoverycall?preview_source=et_card&month=2024-06
I heard no Cons..
The problem in Grenada is with the citizens by investment program. Because of this nonsense we the People of Grenada have to do without make do to accommodate these so called citizens. We are tired of this nonsense. Don't these people have countries to live in? Gas prices will go up because of the demand, we will have food shortages because of them. Too many foreigners settling in Grenada. We want our land back!
CBI is a complex issue. Very few CBI folks actually live in Grenada, most just want the passport. I wonder if folks could see where the money was being invested, would it help?
@@ExodusCollective, the Citizen by Investment (CBI) program is not isolated to the Caribbean. In those highly developed countries, wealthy immigrants are given residence status, because they are brining Millions of dollars to the new country.
Do The Men Also Have To…”Cover Their Shoulders”? If Not….THAT IS DISCRIMINATION ON GROUNDS OF GENDER. I Had/Have No Intention Of Visiting Grenada. Nonetheless, Given This Rule..Of Treating Women, In This Instance, As 2nd Class Citizens/Residents….I Could NEVER Visit Or Spend My Hard Earned Money In Such a Country/Political Culture. Human /Equal Rights Are For EVERYONE. Thank you For This Video.🌺
I guess everyone has to pick their battles 🙂
Patriarchal suppression of matriarchs, brainwashing and indoctrination. A female shop assistant made a comment to me over the fact that I wasn’t wearing a bra under my top. I was made to feel as though I had just committed some kind of sexual sin or crime by being in public without a bra.
You have to respect the laws of other countries whether u like it or not.
So True. Thanks Again For The Video. My Perspective Is That It Would Be Much More Inclusive If The Grenada Government Department Concerned Stated That The Interview Process Is a Formal One So Clients/Applicants Should Dress In *FORMAL ATTIRE. That Way, No Gender Is Being Targeted For Attire Policing.
Most definitely, men has to have their shoulders covered when going to numerous offices..e.g..the health depts/hospital/govt&private offices, etc. Respect is due.