Peugeot 407 2.0 HDi Timing Belt Replacement
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- How to replace the timing belt on a Peugeot 407 fitted with the 2.0 16v HDi engine engine code DW10BTED4.
This is the first time i have carried this job on any 2.0 16v engine and took a few steps that came from memories of working on the old 2.0 8v from the 406. The newer engine is arranged differently with an idler pulley being located in the lower section of the engine mount bracket. The fuel pump also is not driven by the cambelt, but instead it has been moved to the other side of the engine and seems to be driven via the camshaft.
Generally it is not too hard to replace the belt on this engine, the drain bolt at the back does not need to come off, you can flush the coolant well enough via the bleed screws. The fact the starter needs to come out to access the hole to lock the flywheel is a hassle, if the hole had been elsewhere on the block it may have been possible to do it without removing components but then the timing belt is not due for at at least another 6 years.
Regarding the timing belt interval, i do not have the exact information to hand but it usually is in the maintenance handbook that comes with the car. A document that is suprisingly hard to find in PDF form to confirm. However online searches seem to suggest the interval for a 2.0 hdi with a particle filter is
All HDi engines without particle filter: 120 000 km (70,000 miles) or 6 years
All HDi engines with particle filter: 180 000 km (110,000 miles) or 9 years
This video is specific to the 407, although the same engine was fitted to other PSA cars such as the Citroen C5 MK1 facelift and MK2, the 307, 308, Dispatch/Relay, 607. Ford i belive used the engine in the Mondeo, and Volvo in a few of their cars from this era.
I have been watching your videos for 10+ years now and must say that never have I been disappointed by your material and neither have I been now. excellent video
Thank you for your video. You're only one person who showed how to change camshaft seal. Good job, well showed.
Thanks for the comment!
Best UA-cam Channel for DIY jobs on Peugeot. Good one as usual 👌
Thank you very much for the kind and encouraging words.
@@peugeotCitroen2CV welcome! Greetings from Malta 🇲🇹
Thank you so much for your high quality video here mate. I was doing a friend's timing belt after someone had changed it then couldn't get it started afterwards. I've done a lot of timing belts in my time but this one was an absolute pig, I'd have really struggled without this help.
Thanks for the comment.
Ive done a fair few also, didn't actually find it too bad. The PT cruiser or RAV4 2.0 D4D stand out as much worse than this timing belt. Hope you got the car going now.
@@peugeotCitroen2CV Well as it turns out with that one the timing was correct, but the high pressure fuel pump was failing causing it to run rough and give EML for 'injector pressure too high'. The engine timing trouble was a red herring, I thought perhaps I'd been doing something wrong. So you're right they're not bad, as long as you're aware of that flywheel locking hole behind the starter motor. Your guide was super handy there.
On the Peugeot, with no swarf visible in the fuel system I chanced it and put a second hand pump in there, refit the timing belt and it started. Happy days.
kind of important to flush the coolant system with fresh water to prevent different coolant brands or compositions from mix if they are not compatible. Different coolants can and will react if not compatible. If the pin for the cam wheel and at the same time the pin that locks the flywheel/ flexwheel for the automatic gearbox, does fit in respective holes without resistance as seen in the video, the cam belt wheel at the crankshaft is timed properly. If one of the locking pins does NOT fit in its hole perfectly even with slight resistance, you have to loosen the crankshaft bolt to allow the crankshaft to move a bit so both locking pin fits perfectly, only then the crankshaft and cam is timed correctly. Then torque the crankshaft bolt to lock the wheel in position. Because the hole in the flexwheel for the automatic gearbox (also flywheel for the manual gearbox) can be distorted when torquing the crankshaft bolt, the special tool that grabs into the starter gear ring is needed.
Bro you are awesome. You saved me my engine 😘👍
I had problem with the pulleye tensioner because of the lost pin.. 👍👍
Great to hear that you got your car running, thanks for the comment
Excellent video cheers, I would pull the battery earth before removing the starter
Thanks for the comment, good tip about the battery. It was out, got nipped in the past on other cars to know to remove the battery but have forgot to show the footage here.
Good job. But what trick you did that you put 10 litres of coolant if we know that front hose can drain 5-6 l only from the sysytem when water pump is mounted? I'm looking for this trick from a long time. You used a fresh water to flush a cooling system. How to remove the half of this fresh water with minerals from engine block and air heater ? Thanks
Great! more 407 videos ! :D
quite a few more in the pipeline, videos recorded just at the edit stage
Great work and great video 👍👍👍
Thank you! Cheers!
After how many KM do you change the chain between the cam chafts?
I make it the timing belt, all good, but now , my car have check engine and crank but wont start
very nice job
Thanks for the comment
I have a Volvo S40 2009 2.0d with this same engine, it originally comes with green coolant, and I have no clue why, someone changed it to red and it now has some like dust inside, like some rust I would say. Should I go back to original green?
Hi there
I have always ran the red 5 year coolant in my own cars, but you can ask at the motor factors what they recommend.
Just make sure not to mix different coolants, ensure the full system has been flushed. Different coolants can react with eachother and result in reduced cooling efficiency.
How much time / hours are needed to change the timing belt?
I dont do this as the full time job so dont tend to pay much attention to the time also with the video getting recorded it takes me a fair bit longer. Although id say its doable in half a day
Need to remove the cylinder head. Does the subframe need to be removed or have you done it with the engine still in the car? P 407 diesel
Hi there
Never took the engine out of a 407 to be honest. Did on a 406, xantia and some older 2.0/ XUD engines and dropping it down was handiest so the subframe came out.
Send me a PM on the channel FB page and i will see if i can find any documents that might help
@@peugeotCitroen2CV thanks foe replying so quickly. I'll do the PM.
I'm thinking of tilting the engine forward to gain access the back 🤔
@@murrayblair2159
I think rocking the engine forwards will give some better access to the manifold bolts at the back.
Ill see what documents i can find, the facebook page is facebook.com/PC2CV
@@peugeotCitroen2CV decided to remove the entire engine from the front. Noticed some blow by soot and a leak or two. So easier to sort everything out and put it back as a unit. Thanks for your videos. Very helpful 👌
@@murrayblair2159 Great stuff, probably the best option to give everything a good checking over. My old 406 the 2.0 executive needs something similar done and when the time comes it will be handiest to drop the engine and gearbox. Did you have any issues dropping the 407s subframe? It was one thing i didn't really work on was the front suspension of this 407.
Thank you very much amigo :-)
Is it the same when you have the 2.0 petrol engine with 136hp?
Hi there, i have not worked on the 2.0 petrol engine. there are probably quite a few important differences. In general the overall process is similar but some of the finer nuanced details it would be better to have the specific guide
Excellent !
Thanks
Is this hdi has a same timing belt as ew10a petrol peugeot engine?
Hi there,
No i believe the two are totally different. Cant even say if the process is the same for the petrol engine, although i suppose removing the engine mount and covers will follow a similar process.
@@peugeotCitroen2CV thanks👍
timing belt replaced incorrectly
what are you afraid of and do not remove the screw from the pulley
You are making a cardinal garage mistake by not reading the service manual
Hi
I would disagree, the car is still running now no issues with the belt
What screw are you on about?
I had access to the official peugeot workshop guide for this engine, yes some unnecessary torque specs were skipped in favour for using experience but generally the process follows the guide.
the fact that the car still drives today does not mean that it was done wrong and the timing is set correctly. There's no point in patting yourself on the back that your car is running if you don't do it right. You can also paint the wall any way you like and it will still stand.
the shaft pulley floats and is to be tensioned without any shaft screw. it floats to ensure proper tension. your timing is off by about 0.2-0.3 teeth
yes, it will run, it won't explode@@peugeotCitroen2CV
what is your idle RPM? mine is like 900-1k
Not entirely sure as i sold the car back in February. Probably around 900-1k doesn't sound too far off.
@@peugeotCitroen2CV I am just used to pretty much every other diesel to be at 750rpm :D
800 - 850
Not good ...
Bonjour si vous ne retirez pas la cible magnétique vous n'avez aucun moyen de vérifier que la clavette du vilo est bien centrée quand vous tendez la courroie neuve. Elle ne l'est probablement pas donc risque de soucis dans quelques milliers de km.
Hello, if you do not remove the magnetic target you have no way of checking that the key of the vilo is well centered when you tension the new belt. It probably isn't, so there is a risk of problems in a few thousand km.
What is a "vilo"
Cars still running fine so not sure what the issue is
@@peugeotCitroen2CVIt is not that the key is centered is important. If the pin for the cam wheel and at the same time the pin that locks the flywheel/ flexwheel for the automatic gearbox, does fit in respective holes without resistance, the cam belt wheel at the crankshaft and cam wheel is timed together properly. If one of the locking pins does not fit in the hole perfectly, you have to loosen the crankshaft bolt to allow the crankshaft to move a bit so the locking pin fits, only then the crankshaft and cam is timed correctly. Then torque the crankshaft bolt to lock the wheel in position. Because the hole in the flexwheel for the automatic gearbox can be distorted when torquing the crankshaft bolt, the special tool that grabs and locks into the starter gear ring is needed.
35:28 Perfect diagram hahaha.
👏 gord job man 👍🏻✅✅✅🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷
Thanks for the comment
How much you have to remove
Peugeot: Yes
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Its no worse than any other transverse front wheel drive engine bay layout. Worked on a lot worse than this.
hello iv just done this job im not happy with what my tentioner is doing is this normal and can i put my car back together? ua-cam.com/users/shortsfwayCHHnea0
Hi,
It is still between the two marks, however you have to predict how much tightening the centre nut will send the arrow beyond the centre so aim the arrow a bit further forwards or backwards before you tighten the nut, tighten it and see how it reacts. Can take a few times. One of those things the more you do them the better you can guess where to point the arrow. The tightening procedure and turning the engine will move it ever so slightly.
Spent another 2 hours muckin about with it this morning
At one point the arrow moved so much I couldn’t see it any more. That was the final straw
I took the tensioner off… put the old one back on
Pulled the release pin and it instantly snapped perfectly between the 2 lines
Did the bolt up… turned the engine… it didn’t move at all.
Job done
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