Stephen criticises the Government for plans to inspect bank accounts
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
- Yesterday, 29 November 2023, Parliament debated the Data Protection and Digital Information Bill. The Government proposed two new amendments (New Clause 34 and New Schedule 1) to give it the power to inspect the bank accounts of people claiming social security, such as benefits or the state pension.
The Government's argument is that this will allow them to reduce fraud and error in the social security system. However, the powers are wide-ranging and do not have clear safeguards. The Government also only admitted that the powers allowed them to inspect the accounts of those who could receive the State Pension (i.e., almost everyone) after being questioned in Parliament.
This government is out of control and NOT fit for purpose.
Well you're right, they'd rather screw the poor and disabled than deal with the corrupt thieving scum tories.....
It's like they want to be voted out at this point 😂
Or want an uprising on the streets.
The world knows what it's doing called control
Labour MPs clutching their pearls while voting through the BIll.
So should all mps be happy to have their bank accounts and tax haven bank accounts investigated on the premise that they are guilty until proven innocent of any fraud?
They'll ensure they're exempt.
Neither should the banks expect tax-payers to bail them out next time they crash the Casino. Quantative Easing is for suckers.
I can smell the fabric conditioner from here.
This. All this.
That's true it works both ways, It's about time their feet is held to the fire and made and held accountable on all fronts.
As a disabled person this is terrifying. I’ve already been robbed of my dignity by illness, now my privacy.
government has squandered everything they won't be happy till they have the clothes off everyones backs.
same mate just vote labour next time thats all we can do.
@@GhostvaperYT No thanx Labour bankrupts everyone.giving pensioners a 75p rise and a war in Iraq………….mate
Same
@@lucid6891 why what have you got to hide ?
Pure discrimination on the poorest. More anxiety, no doubt more suicides. Lets have a deep look into Baroness Mones bank account.
I've been commenting on mones corruption for ages ...all gone quiet has that one...I believe she's on her multi million pound yacht in the Bahamas....
well said.. when mps etc are found to be acting fraudulently they resign and get a promotion
Yes and placed unlawfully without tax payers consent or having a vote putting them straight into the house of fraudsters as I see it just my opinion maybe.
To fat to fail
Nothing to see here , she nicked the money and immediately spent it on a multi million pound yacht , why is she not in prison?
Overstepping privacy rights. The accounts are empty. It would be far more advantageous and interesting to have all bank accounts of those in public office made public and open to scrutiny scrutinised
It will end up where they SPY on everyone's accounts. They'll start with benefit claimants after making sure they've turned working people against them enough and then target the ones that supported it to begin with.
they're not empty though! you have a mass amount of people taking work on AND claiming! it costs us that WORK hundreds of thousands a year! enough is enough. If you have nothing to hide whats the problem
@@brettrigby2226utter nonsense. 4 billion in fraudulent covid loans have all but been written off by HMRC. 40 billion has reportedly gone missing through fraud theft and waste in gov departments over last 4 years. Relatives of the current PM making millions in gov contracts. Sort all this out first, then snoop on ordinary people's bank accounts. Oh, and if you have nothing to hide send over your last 3 years bank statements so I can have a nosey at them, cheers.
@@brettrigby2226hundreds of thousands?
You silly woman...
The tories have stolen 100 billion in 4 years.
Major corporations avoid tax of over 100 billion per year..
Get your priorities in order...
@@brettrigby2226I claimed because family allowance was my right as a mother of children in the UK.
My parents claim because their pensions are something they have paid into for over 50 years.
Stop making excuses for your freedom and liberty to be removed under the umbrella of security and safety.
They will never return your freedom and they will one day use the power you gave them against you, to not understand politics and governance is to live in denial.
Thank you Stephen, we need more members in the house to support you in this.
the officals that cant be arsed
to stay and hear the concerns about the bill should be removed from office.
An inevitable step in a state that considers and treats it's citizens as property, or slaves.
WHERE ON EARTH IS THIS BLOODY GOVERNMENT TAKING THIS COUNTRY - WHAT KIND OF PATH IS IT HEADING US DOWN. REVOLUTION WOULD BE THE CASE IN OGTHER COUNTRIES, BET WE STUPID DUMB APATHEITC BRITS LET OUR GOVERNMENT DO WHAT THE HELL ITD LIKES TO US
That's very true
they are going after the account on tax heavens where the pensioner's and disabled hide their lute ...
We're Subjects...
Not slaves. Chattle. They don't take everything you have got. Just enough to keep you following the system.
And yet no proposal to pry into the finances of millionaires, billionaires and wealthy potential tax dodgers..
like the PM's wife
Or lying thieving corrupt slimy criminal politicians how very convenient
@@theunknown9437And the PM himself!
Why should they ,they don’t receive my money ie universal credit etc . Why are your sort so jealous of rich people?
@@tonywright8294no they just receive inside information and kickbacks for favours done and huge contracts using tax payers money for their friends enrichment.. so really they steal a huge amount more than all the benefits cheats combined
When I can look at their bank accounts, they can look at mine.
This is absolutely disgusting, and an abuse of power.
Unfortunately they dont need your consent & the banks have already agreed..
Parliament website petition, sign please and pass on , it won't stop there
@@kerrybayton2954 no they haven't. It doesn't come in until 2025..
If that's the case we demand that we also should be allowed to inspect the bank accounts of the MP's and Councilors, to see where all their back handers are coming from.
Well Said God Bless You Amen xxxxxxx XXXXXXX And God Bless Your Earthly Life Time And Earthly Family Amen xxxxxxx XXXXXXX
Let's have a data swap... each claimant gets to scutinise the spending habits of 1 MP, 1 Councillor and 1 civil servant. Then they would be exceptionally screwed to say the least.
I been working for 10 years, never paid taxes. All my money is cash in hand. Good luck trying this on me lol.
The govt would claw in more than £23bn if they went after their mates who got PPE contracts but failed to deliver.....but we all know that they won't do that!
and all the furlough money they dished out to companies that didn't even exist, and all the "eat out to help out" money claimed by take-aways who had no "dine in" facility... a lot of these "businesses" run by criminal gangs
Michelle moan! To name a few, investigation concluded no wrongdoing and nothing unlawful. And that’s that! Constantly stealing the publics petty cash!
Kids have 29million now though somehow.
Absolutely disgusting they have no right to look at people's bank statements
Another example of the loss of privacy that we have seen over the past few years. The erosion of personal rights to privacy is not acceptable in a democratic society. Well expressed Stephen Timms.
I wouldn't call Britain a democracy. When did the public approve the ruling system (the parliamentary system)?
you never lost your freedom and privicy of money , you never have had freadom or privicy with money , 3 words , credit refrence agency
Good job we dont live in a democratic society then isnt it.
someone begging for money that is conditional on the state of your bank account is not entitled to keep that bank account secret to facilitate his fraud.
@@occamraiserYou should watch the video in full. He says pensions do not depend on anything to do with your bank account, and also the bank accounts can already be accessed where there is suspicion of fraud (after a court order).
The discussion is about unlimited access to bank accounts of anybody on any benefit.
It is scary the changes that are happening since our unelected government came to power!
They are not a government they think they are the mafia.
Let's hear it for democracy !
All by design, a corporate takeover is appening, "our democracy", "the science", they are claiming ownership over those things...
This is no government. it's a dictatorship.
They were elected in 2019.
This government really seems dead set on stripping away our rights and protections in all sorts of ways.
Bit by bit, they've been chipping away, and it's kind of concerning.
They will start with benefit claimants and then it will subtly be extended to non-claimants...
@@v3ramirez1308 Pretty much. Dictatorships tend to go for the less 'popular' members of society first, and before you know it, it turns out EVERYONE'S got a target on their back.
And less face it, we don't exactly have the most honourable folks running things.
We just need to look at Russia to see what happens when the leaders have far too much power over their people.
Or Nazi Germany. Or any number of other places around the world.
(Or just watch the Star Wars Prequels).
Right now, people with professional jobs, who openly criticise our government's policies risk getting blacklisted.
But if we're not careful, we'll have 'overly critical' people falling out of windows, as well.
Or being deported to Rwanda..
@@v3ramirez1308Also, I'm wondering if this is a smokescreen to hide something else the government is up to. They've been trying to sneak in some insideous stuff every now and then. .
But of course. For the sake of the poor and disabled and elderly, please please vote reform, get the💩out.
It's present aim seems to be to do as much damage as possible to the country - all of us - before it is kicked out of office.
Wonder what we'd find if we inspected the ministers' bank accounts - wherever they may be?
What an odious law proposed by the Terrible Tory Team.....😡
Tax avoidance and dodging on an unpresidented scale.
@@David-kk5fx It's my guess that would be only the tippy top of an enormous iceberg.
huge amounts of kickbacks and contracts for friends and jobs on the board later so it looks legit
100%
All of our rights and freedoms stripped away by these cowards
And they where enabled by the voters.
The same applies to Labour.
Already not allowed to protest, anybody claiming there is free speech now is just lying to themselves or unaware of these laws.
Well said! The trouble is, there's a worrying amount of the public who support the sadistic quest to stomp on benefit claimants and consider them guilty until proven innocent. I've even seen alarming opinion poles expressing support to give the DWP enforcement powers, like some kind of pseudo-police force.
Yes as things get harder on the working people they get envious of those not working. Everyone seems to want to trample those beneath them
It’s not just benefits claimants. As the MP said, they want to pry into those on pensions. We all get a state pension, because we’ve paid national insurance over our working lives. We’ve also been encouraged to pay into occupational pensions. They need to mind their own business.
People on benefits deserve privacy also. They already have measures in place where they suspect benefit fraud.
@@jaijai5250 Like it or not, the fact is that the state pension is a benefit. Everyone pays one way or another.
It disturbs me how many seem to assume that people of working age who rely on social security to get by are scroungers who have never worked, but all pensioners have paid their due (even those whose sole contribution has been to the crime rate).
Meanwhile around 40% of people on UC are in work.
Maybe, just maybe, we should be asking why work doesn't pay enough for so many to live without state support?
BTW, the benefit issued by the DWP with the highest fraud rate was pension credit (a top up intended for poorer pensioners). Not sure if that's still the case
Because people in this country don't care about something that doesn't affect them...until it does.
It will just show them what we already know - that 15 million people in the UK are living below the poverty line; 8.1 million of those are working and 2.1 million of those are pensioners. This country is a disgrace to its people.
these r english and Welsh figures. Not include NI or Scotland. Remember 95% of things u hear in westminster only refer to little england.
Thanks Anne. Yes, important to remember that!
No no.... they would see everyone's bank account empty, and would assume that everyone had a big secret stash of cash! (the cash that they are buying "Flat screen TVs" and "avocado on toast" with... you know?)
It will not effect Muslims they get free pensions and are untouchable with thier thousands in benefits they are not entitled to and they are never investigated for benefit fraud either
next will be crypto they stick their noses into
Majorty of disabled people are genuine 99% don't commit benefit fraud .
so true here am i 74yrs old my husband of 81 was buried on 2nd of june this year worked well into his seventies like a trodgen from being fifteen we never asked for help paddled our own boat in al that time we had great challenges as a lot more do he went with his head in his hands many times to work ,did anybody care no he was just fodder for the system soon forgotton so now i feel as though he earned the care that my 41yr old daughter gets financially i look after her unpaid its a labour of love thats all thats left in the end.isnt it. much love god bless
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
IN WHO'S WORLD YOURS?
@@francesholdsworth571 Your daughter is entitled to her benefits and lots of help. You are also entitled to support to enable you to care for your daughter. Age Uk may be able to give you some information Take care X
@@francesholdsworth571and we are all richer and living longer than anyone in history.The state cannot pay for everything people want imo
Claimant: Sells personal belongings on eBay to financially navigate a cost of living crisis
DWP: Nice second income there: It's sanction time
Sale of personal property generally is not classed as income for tax perposes.
@@sun-p6g That won't stop the DwP and I suspect you know it. I judge them by their actions.
Timms fighting the good fight as always. Can't believe the govt is trying to do this. Thanks for speaking up Stephen!
PITY THEY DONT DO THIS WITH TAX DODGERS
I can
@@hughmerry4102
They should force Sunak to hand over the secret offshore accounts and see how much he's avoiding taxes from the UK.
He's a fortune of (£730 million $837 million). That goes for lord snooty Rees-mogg and all the other Tory ministers.
I can believe the Draconian dictatorial government would do it in fact the government will do anything to deprive people of their basic civil rights it's the government that should be being scrutinized I'm sure a lot more tax payers money would be saved that way ,
I can believe it, they want to control what people spend their money on, and when CBDC is forced on us they will cut off your access to your bank account if you don`t conform to their control.
This is appalling. I cannot believe they would stoop so low. If they don't have time to process the refugee and asylum claims, where will they get staff to do this??? Scare tactics again???
The government does have time to process asylum claims....they just don't seem bothered about processing that many!
They have been doing it for over 17yrs in Uxbridge to me. My son is my carer..I live in NHS pension. Boris brought DWP to my home and then decided that despite living below poverty line(under £12,000per yr.) supporting my son and myself. and not pensionable age we pay full council tax,I'm not allowed to get benefits.they are now asking me to pay back council tax for 2012 according to them.they say I owe them ..they have taken over £90out of my account .my son paid the council tax out of his birthday money.Boris Johnson and the conservative government are evil .
@@geetafarrow2010 I am so sorry to hear this. If you are a disabled person, here in Scotland you pay reduced council tax. Austerity is killing people all over uk and the tories don't give a toss. We need a new government NOW
In a few years they will have sophisticated AI to scan them.
@@doreenhollywood7459 .they classed my pip and nursing pension as 2incomes. When Dash assessed it they stated that I shouldn't be paying anything. Iuse my pip money for getting private treatments .eg massage ,paying for vitamins etc..my pup I believed was for me. My son gets carers allowance for caring for me .we live in my NHS pension which was £630pr mth in 2012..1saw citizens advice bureau who took my paper work and did nothing to help our situation. My councillor for my ward My lallana suggest I begged the mosque to help me financially, he is now the mayor of Uxbridge The other councillor ETA Gohil works for Micheal Gove. Wouldn't help me but sort to use my problems as means to forward her career.told me to go to the local temple for food bank.i refuse to go into the temple as it has a picture of Boris in the entrance to the prayer area . I can't understand why she is the councillor for Uxbridge .Boris evaded every time I asked to see him. I was told he had an important meeting when we arranged to me .he was in the Dominican Republic with is family.
I feel the prejudices shown to from this government is nothing more then burning money in front of a person in need..in more ways then one Thank you for your comment
Wow what a powerful introduction to Stephen Timms! This is the first time I am learning about you and you're truly speaking for the people! Thank you so much Stephen. So many of us feel voiceless and have mentally and emotionally checked out from politics. I feel at a loss with everything that has gone on in recent times and to hear someone using their voice to be just and righteous has sparked something in me. There are good people in politics still! Thank you. Please do not stop as there are so many of us that need you to achieve preventing and changing these things as there are politicians who will allow it and many of us who have given up and these types of things just go through unchecked and with ease. It's truly scary.
ONLY after ALL MP's finances are FULLY investigated and appropriate action taken
Well said Ian. Thought the same.
yes they should lead by example.. it's become a fascist state, the amount of government control of all aspects of life
youll never know about it.....the MSM are in collusion..and well paid to keep it that way.
Exactly
Yes I agree. What is good for one class of people should be the same for those whom might deem themselves above the law. In order to combat fraud we must have transparency across the board. I might hazard to guess that a greater temptation of fraudulent behaviour are with those with a greater freedom to defraud the system because of their perceived status. The DWP checks are quite stringent and the amounts are nowhere near as much as those who claim expenses for various reasons in the work of an MP, civil servant, A Lord, various government agencies etc.
Thank you Sir for standing up for us.
Thank you for standing up against this tyranny.
The state pension is not a benefit it was paid for by ourselves if you don't have enough credits you don't get it
It's also one of the lowest in Europe.
State pension is a benefit for those who haven’t chipped in 30 years of contribution
£55,000+ for ONE illegal immigrant who has contributed NOTHING.
£8,000 State pension after contributing for FIFTY YEARS.
THIS from the world's 6th largest economy,and the 25th worst pension,even behind Iceland.
THIS is what Parliament thinks of it's own people.
@@tariqbahoussain1442would be pension credit as they wouldn't have enough contributions to get state pension if they've not worked
State Pension is, and has been considered a part of State Welfare and indeed a benefit since the last 1940's. While terms like contribution are utilised in DWP parlance, sadly there is no pot that your NI is paid into. In fact NI is essentially just general taxation. To go one step further with the current rate of Old State Pension you'd need to have been earning £40000+ per year, every year for 40 years straight to have 'earnt' the rate of state pension. It is in every way a benefit (or as I prefer, State Welfare). It is something that the state subsidises to ensure that every can live/survive.
Can this government treat the public any worse? My heart is breaking right now...
Don't give way to sadness, interesting times start very soon. Maybe as soon as next week when the brown smelly stuff hits the fan, and political crooks among others get covered in the stuff, and they will get far more than their accounts investigated. Lots of news in the pipeline. Really shocking stuff.
There only vulchers that live in hell, don't forget it's not us that are guilty, it's them.
Bring back Guy Fawkes.
my heart breaks because I voted for them! The main reasons were Brexit AND I would never vote for Corbyn! I''ll vote labour next time tho!
@@GhostvaperYT Corbyn was sabotaged. He has never been anti-Jewish just anti-Zionist as per UN resolutions.
Well done Stephen, you are correct... it is completely unacceptable for peoples bank accounts to be probed into with no grounds to do so. Where will this overreach end?
Well done Stephen, very good points. Passing such a profound peice of legislation without proper scrutiny, will come back to haunt those 275 Tory MPs who voted the Bill through first phase. Once their constituents realise what has been passed, there will be quite a backlash and understandable anger.
Hear,Hear.
@@ohdearme1052by the dumb Labour Mayor
LMFAO, we're off the slippery slope and freefalling off a cliff, this already happens, every account of every person, benefits or not, is already monitored... ever heard of AML...
Really? Are you living under a rock? Not a damn thing will happen as always, and people will soon forget. When has it been any different, ever?
That's a dumb thing to say. Do you really believe for a second that every government around the world, regardless of "party" isn't doing the same thing. Wake up, you fool. There's one guy talking in front of an empty room. That means it's already been decided.
It is unsatisfactory that this government seems to be in the habit of 'rushing things through' which does not allow for proper scrutiny. It is not just this bill. It seems to be a habit. It is deeply disturbing and very 'unconservative'. Shame on those, irrespective of which party they belong to, who either vote for this or abstain from voting. Sunak and his government have to go. Well done to the Rt Hon gentleman on the opposition benches for scrutinising this.
What you fail to address in your statement (which I do agree with, so take this next point badly) is that the conservative party has lost it's backbenchers. In order for these bills to get rushed through is due to the support of the Labour front benches to vote inline with the opposition government.
In fact this has been happening now for the last 8 years straight.
Without labour support these bills would toast.
"unconservative"?
In the 19th century, it was liberals legislate, tories administrate, today the trots have simply taken the libs place, the tories still administrate (via statutory instruments). In fact a lack of proper scrutiny is a VERY conservative thing.
But don't for a minute think that LieBour wouldn't implement this sort of DISGUSTING bill, if they thought they could pass it through parliament. They are the arch communists after all.
They've already introduced ULEZ zones, which is an attack on the poorest in society, because LieBour cannot balance their own books.
They're all the same, blue or red. They're all in it together, getting cushty bonuses and jobs after they left parliament.
If a freedom exists, if a privacy exists, they want it removed. Doesn't make any difference if it's Labour or Conservative, they are both in the same club, and they want the same thing.
Seeing that politicians are paid from taxpayer money as well as the unemployed, their OWN bank accounts should be investigated too.
So much for the Tories claim to be in favour of small government. They want to scrutinise the finance of ordinary people but turn a blind eye to rich donors and their cronies.
'Small government' or as Cameron said 'a leaner government' that is, a government that leans ever more heavily on you!
when your so called 'conservative party' is more woke and communist authoritarian than joe biden's white house, we have a huge problem. vote Reclaim UK
The Tories are always for small government.... when they're in opposition. When they get into government however they exapnd it just like the Labour party does. It seems like whoever you vote for, we end up going in the same direction anyway.
Well said Stephen Times. I am disgusted by the constant erosion of our privacy and freedoms under this government. When did politicians decide to stop serving the people who elected them ?
2010.
@@janebaker966 Thank you.
Have they ever?? Have things really changed since Samuel Plimsoll campaigning for safety changes for sailors a few hundred years ago, the politicians did not want the change as they and their friends were the ship owners and quite happy to keep getting richer whilst the sailors were dying. ( Look it up fascinating story,)
You gotta question what type of democracy that you have. People should have the power to de-select a politician that they elected at anytime if the fella misused his power or act against the people's wants.
They only serve themselves. Starmer will be no different as he would chose Davos over Westminster. Another globalist puppet. They treat the UK population as if we are totally uneducated. They want to snoop on our emails, whats app, bank accounts.
Thank you, Stephen, for raising this issue so clearly. I am frankly appalled at the breadth of these powers and, as you say, the suspect way they are being pushed through. Whatever happened to our democratic rights? Innocent citizens should not have the state prying into their private affairs without some proof of a crime being committed. I am entitled to claim PIP for a disability I am struggling to live with, which does not mean the state can pry into my finances. We'd all better get used to handling cash again...
The ability for ministers/departments to review bank accounts already exisits, but... they have to get a court order, so there are appropriate checks by a judge. It should never be automatic. I value my privacy.
agree and what about accounts where one party gets no benefits but the other. Anyway your bank acvount is private. Can you imagine how many pensions will be terrorised by little hitlers because they can.... yet the millions lost through furlough fraud is simply written off with no accountability.... one rule for me and another for thee. Hopefully the banks will protect their customers from this govt over reach.
Blame your bank for allowing that to happen
@@steve00alt70
Don't be silly, the banks have no say in the matter. That's why Government makes laws that forces the banks to comply.
@@Stringbean421we all know the banks regard us a their slaves as well. The banks are all to willing to do this without any encouragement or government intervention.
sadly privacy like f.of speech etc hardly exists anymore
So the people working in the jobcentre are now going to be pouring over bank statements and questioning benefits claimaints on their spending?
Dangerous times.
making sure they dont eat meat or have a car for a start
They already do. just had to provide 4 months bank statements and answer why my mother had deposited £18.50.
I would rather eat shit than let them look at my personal details they can get lost they can keep the money they are not giving me enough to be treating me like a crim
Yes and with digital currency no doubt provisions on how money can be spent .
@@MrsMeatballsthis is outrageous
Thank you stephen! We need more parliamentarians such as yourself. Straight talking, comprehensive and grounded.
The whole of the present governments stance on people in benefits is absolutely abhorrent.
The fact that they are going to force those already subjected to the demoralising hurdles to prove they are indeed incapacitated in some way that makes them unable to sustain any meaningful contribution to the workforce into work with threats of being forced into increased destitution through harsh sanctions which may I suggest actually contravenes human rights coupled with the complete overhaul of the benefits system including this total invasion into their bank accounts raises the question if any of this is actually lawful, moral and just!
NO one should be on benefit. There are jobs. If the illegal immigrants and legal immigrants can find jobs, why can't they?
@@greg-q1jI will treat that comment with the contempt it deserves.
Dickensian times are back and the Tories are being allowed to get away with it.
@@greg-q1jnot everyone can be lucky enough to have good health all their lives, or enough jobs in areas.. you clearly have not been in some areas of big cities where every job that comes up gets thouands of applicants.. maybe one day you will be incapacitated by a bad event then you'll see why a safety net is vital for those who are hit by hard times
god bless you for your truth, please read my answer on no 7425 ,and how calouse to toss them aside because they are of no use to the wicked system this time jesus is comeing back ,for satan tosses this worlld about through evil men in high places ,have they no heart at all , not if they can do such things they then become unhuman much love
Stick with being a government and govern the country. No need to govern my thoughts, my speech, my leisure, my job, my well-being and now my finances. I’m sick of all these new laws being passed that the country and majority have no say in.
❤❤❤❤ love your comment. Sums it up perfectly.
Well said ) love your comment...is exactly how I feel. Disabled people who suffer with schizo affect disorders/voices/paranoia will be pushed over the edge by this. There will be repercussions in the destruction of innocent peoples lives...they will end up in hospital...more pressure on services that are decimated anyway. Many will not cope at all and its the final push to give in and not want to live at all. 😢 I pray that there will be a backlash against this, that human rights legislation kicks in, that the courts etc step up. Its disgusting.
They want suicides, taht's why the suicide rate is now under national security and official secrets act...@@phoebsc5993
The human rights this government have breach this past 3 years are scandalous. I haven't seen any court proceedings taking place by those who are meant to protect those rights for we the people. They're too busy protecting the made-up rights for illegal immigrants.
It's becoming like a " BIG BROTHER " country.
Thank you for standing up for the people’s rights Steven.
In a word, SCUM, this parliament is out of control and Labour didn’t as a party fight this, two sides of the same coin, all SCUM. 😊
And that is something people don't want to understand. They think Labour is their saviour when in fact they're just as bad as the Cons.
The way all this is going, do not know why I should vote anymore...
True in almost every country now day's.
Well said Stephen. at least one mp. Standing up for the less fortunate in life ..thank you ..
Stephen and Andrew Bridges are outstanding Public servants ..rest just liers/rubbish !
One out of 650, troubling times.
Hear, Hear.
He’s just a token voice to make it look like they are going through the motions .
Those in power will ALWAYS misuse and exploit the weak and vulnerable.
Thank you for raising this worrying issue. The creep of government into our daily lives keeps persisting, especially for unwarranted reasons.
Can they look into the bank accounts of some of these corrupt politicians.
next....
Ha, as if this Tory infested shithole would do anything useful or intelligent.
This will make those with mental health issues even worse. GET THIS LOT OUT!!!!!!!
One can tell when a nation is decent just by the way they treat the disadvantage and less fortunate!!!!
yes nationalise tattoo parlours and give scratchcards to those claiming benefits and cruise ship tax relief for the elderly
@Jack-fs2im Disability can happen to anyone regardless how fit one can be accidents and disease don't give warnings let's hope people like you never need help ,and have a fast death so want need help !!!
The DWP treats disabled people who claim PIP as criminals, and rigorously uses underhanded filtering techniques to dissuade people from claiming, also making people use Job coaches/managers to put in place sanctions is evil, especially when these job coaches are the lowest standard in the job recruiting industry. Having the DWP snoop around in your accounts, is unfair and disgusting. Its a prelude to having to explain where your money goes to a third party. More nanny state powers to the cruel civil servants.
I've fought for years against the DWP who are determined to second guess my Autism diagnosis that was made almost 30 years ago. They design questions and interviews to trip people up and squeeze the life out of them. It's no wonder many legitimate claimants have been driven to suicide thanks to this eugenics-like system.
even when you apply for a job now they want to have 5 years of bank statements for all your accounts and want to know where your money came from, and "how you've supported yourself" as if it's any of their business... they treat everyone as a potential drug dealer I suppose!!
@@bretton_woods Yet Rishi and his ilk are the worst criminals out of us all.
Could you explain a bit more please ?
About the coach/manager ?
@@bretton_woods
What ??
Why ???
I don't think they have a legal right to do that .
In theory , if one did not have an account , you should be able to receive your salary in cash !!!
What relevance is your banking history ?
I received a notification in my Universal Credit 'to do list' requesting copies of my bank accounts for the last four months, for all my accounts if more than one, and it stated if I failed to provide these my benefit could be stopped or discontinued. There is no way I can afford to have my benefit stopped and I felt forced to comply. I have nothing to hide but that's not the point. This was an invasion of my privacy with menaces.
Well said ST 👏 Far too few MP's spoke on this and the unopposed bulk of this bill had I understand, 'No' actual opposition from "The Opposition" An utter disgrace!
Can people now see why they wish to have a cashless society . Ultimate control and abilty to pry into our lives .
yes. we,ve got to fight for our CASH. They want to know everything ,since this virus.want to control us !😈👹💩
No they can't, they are sheeple that put on a mask, complied with the lies, got jabbed over lies. Useless.
Get rid of this disgusting government.
If they have this in place in advance, they obviously have something contentious up their sleeve that will depend upon this power being in place.
Digital money coming by 2030
Spot on
This clause 34 has slipped under the public radar,thanks for highlighting it Stephen,Chris
Their absence from this debate, speaks volumes!
Can we see everyone working in parliament too. This is a disgrace to even think to do this. It’s turning into China here. Ty mr timms This country is treating people worse than animals
Well done Stephen for standing up for those who cannot defend themselves! Just think what shenanigans would be found, if we could inspect the ministers accounts 🤑
You could be in for a treat soon. Get in the popcorn.
Well said.
It may stop them "forgetting" about the 10's of thousands of £ held in shares and not declared on the register of interests
As politicians are public servants I think that would be reasonable if there are questions raised about their integrity (that's just about all of them)
They actually work for us, the people, so we, the people, can look into their bank accounts then right? Our taxes pay them so we should all demand their bank account details to make sure they are spending it on what we want them too. If not, it's a case of paying no tax. Fair is fair. Equality is equality. So let's get cracking people.
Why is it that when important things to the little folk are discussed in parliament, the room always looks empty?
could the mps set an example and make all their accounts open to scrutiny to the public? and could you tell them about zoom please? to be told to not travel by rich people flying in private jets to air conditioned hotels is sickening
why do think we don’t have a constitution on rights for the people in this country!
shocking to see how few MPs are present when one of their number speaks on the erosion of our freedoms.
I'm assuming they don't want THEIR bank accounts checked?
Shame the DWP isn't showing the same diligence refunding the 60 million it owes from under payments.
It's 500 million and expecting 850...
I think 60mill is a gross underestimate.
Plans? They already done a review a few weeks ago on my claim and wanted bank statements which I had to give to continue recieving benefits.
Nobody of the Public would agree to this, these politicians obtain a vote and then do what they like and that’s democracy. Disgraceful tactics
THEY NOW REALISE THAT THEIR TIME IS UP SO THIS IS A FINAL STAB IN THE BACK. REMINDS ME OF THE MAD BITCH THATCHER WHO BROUGHT IN THE THEN POLL TAX THEN SHE LEFT DOWN SYNDROME STREET. THESE PEOPLE HAVE NEVER STRUGGLED IN THEIR LIVES NOW CAMERON IS BACK AND BEEN REWARDED FOR HIS FEK UPS BY BEING MADE A LORD
Ah, but only the tories vote, the plebs don't bother to get out of bed.
I say what's good for the goose... ALL politicians should have their accounts monitored, inc their offshore ones.
Who is really screwing this country?
Let's scrutinise THEIR claims for expenses for things like airpods and £11,000 phone Bill's.
Yep and Mark Garnier MP for wyre forest was caught claiming for sex toys on his!! They think we have forgotten about what went on!!!!
Don't forget the duck House
are you kidding me wow
This not only an invasion of privacy, its assuming guilt before a trial. Outrageous
Somebodies bank account is private , and should remain so, let’s all have a nice look at what’s in the pockets of parliament? Or is all in trust funds, off shore, tax havens? , perhaps this violation of freedom will finally piss the people off enough to do something about it?
Given the mess our ‘government’ has made of the Post Office, I can only imagine the inevitable abuses and technical glitches this would lead to. Banking security would become meaningless. Who can be trusted with the power of access to an entire nations private finances???
My goodness; I was unaware of this until now. It is an absolutely shocking proposal and must be totally resisted. This not the thin end of the wedge. This is very very much thicker. That a government is even attempting this draconian and entirely unnecessary legislative proposal scares me.
Thank you so much for the speech, and for posting same.
Still stunned.
Thank you for speaking out, Stephen.
I’m on universal credit because of ill health after working 48 years and my bank account has zero in as most people on benefits. When did we become a state where our rights to privacy has been taking away from us.
This would allow the government to inspect basically every “poor” person in the land and stitch them up. Interesting that they are not looking at, say MPs, or Bankers, or Oligarchs, or the Royals, or Media Moguls squirrelling money offshore…
The bank accounts that really need a full scrutiny, are the government employees in the civil service, the politicians, and the so-called health experts. I bet that would be an eye opener.
and remember the expenses scandal. They never needed receipts for purchases less than £250.... bare in mind that's only a little less than what jobseekers receive in a month! And job seekers are expected to search for jobs 35 hours a week (guess what, even if you applied for every job going you'd be done in a few hours at most!!)
Heading further into a dystopian world with state surveillance.
Absolutely disgusting!!!! MY Government puts me to shame! Targeting the vulnerable as always... it is wickedness and shows a lack of strength that they need to go after the weakest in our society! All the while, large companies and wealthy are getting away with murder of all sorts.
Literally...
It's the large companies and the very wealthy that want this legislation.
It basically fully controls the population and paves way for the China style CBDC.
We should be able to inspect MP's and ministers bank accounts as well to see how much they are getting in fraudulent dealings, backhanders, and income from other sources besides their salaries for being MP's & Ministers! We should be able to see if they are actually paying tax on all these extraneous earnings as well! Perhaps this power should be extended to m/billionaires and tax avoiders too!
Absolutely disgusting that they think this is appropriate. Lots of people will be leaving the UK I’m sure.
Are we really now treating anyone receiving the state pension as being on benefits?
Well it's just another step on that slimey slippery slope.... and benefits need to go back to being deemed as social security that give people security in difficult times.
the new modern way of ...work till you drop
So they propose to be able to inspect the bank accounts of people on benefits. Their list appears to contain "Pensions". I need to point out now, that Pensions are not benefits. Pensions are paid for by people, through taxation, throughout their lives, as mentioned in the speech. Please remember this!
It's pension credits which are benefits but the point is its a private matter
Pensions are not benefits just now but given this is future legislation I think something is going on.
They were reclassified as benefits by Ian Duncan Smith on 6 April2016 when he introduced the “new” pension and the MIG, forcing everyone who retired before that date to remain on the old Basic Pension and claim pension credit to make up the difference.
This meant they could count SERPS, graduated Pension and any private pension as “other income”
The net result is that people on the Basic Pension who thought they would receive these pensions on top of State Pension now get them instead of State pension. The current difference is £47.65 per week.
The Govt is clawing that back out what was supposed to be people’s additional provision for their retirement years, leaving people without it.
There are about 9 million pensioners over 70 losing what they paid for in good faith, reducing the Govt pension bill by about £18billion.
Why oh why oh why do we keep putting up with this
Remember when there wasn't round the clock distraction: 24/7 soaps, rolling politics, Love Island, Celebrity Jungle and Strictly Come Pimping?
These are the small incremental steps the government are taking towards the UBI CBDC SCS systems we headed for.
You are free, to do as we tell you!
Absolutely
Good points.
Sadly being vigorously, steadily, pushed, slipped-in/ forced and happening in all "Free" Western Civilisation countries UK US,, CAN, IRE, rest of EU, AUS, NZ, etc.
Seems mostly high class grifters and professional criminals are PMs, Pres, MPs, Reps, Sens, Lords, Ministers of This n That,
They are against 95% of humanity for their own gains, power, privileges, pay, perks, vacations, junkets, pensions, immunity, protectors, allowances / expense accounts, staff's, ...
An important issue voiced to an almost empty house again. A Parliament without debate in the house? Politicians get pay rises and the civil service continues to grow in size while doing less
Does anyone still remember what their actual jobs are?
According to our neighbour who works for the D.W.P. there has always been a way of prying into peoples bank accounts - if on
benefits or not ?. When looking into the ordinary people"s bank accounts it would be certainly easier than the wealthy ,the upper class & a Politician"s right to privacy - so is this new law intended to extend the government powers or to make them simpler ,
which is odd so close to a G.Election and will Starmer dump the law or embrace - it ?.
Embrace it
Tell you what - To every MP and Minister particularly Ministers of this corrupt Government I say I'll show you mine if you show us all YOURS !!!
I think MP.s are quite used to that sort of thing. Especially with small boys.
With all these masses of banking rules and regulations, are all the 'money launderers' now being forced to live on the dole? NO!!
Well said
This will also mean they will know everything a person buys or sells through a bank and I have no doubt they will extend this to everyone else, and also remember Cameron said that paying with cash with dishonest. Big Brother really is here.
All MPs and Lords receive benefits... are their bank accounts included? (No).
MP's should be the first to have their bank accounts examined. My ex local MP Paddy Dripping, sorry Paddy Tipping, used to claim exactly £25000 per year for stationary, without having to provide a single receipt.
WOW ISINT IT SATANIC WHAT THESE SOULESS MONSTERS ARE DOING TO THE BEST OF US GOOD HUMAN BEINGS WALKING GODS EARTHLY WORLD AND GODS EARTHLY REALM. I HOPE THESE SOULESS PEOPLE BEHAVEING IN THIS DISGRACEFUL WAY REALIZE THAT THEY ARE NOT MAKING IT BACK HOME TO HEAVEN WITH ME ON D DAY. NOT ALL THE WHILE THEY ARE BEHAVING INHUMANE IMMORIAL AND SATANIC..
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Remove them from office. Vote anyone out who is in a party that endorses this. Vote out all Labour and Conservatives.
Thank You Mr Timms.
Beautifully narrated , and straight to the heart of the matter. Its much appreciated..
Have you noticed , when Important speaches are on, the chamber is empty , but when its about non important things the chamber is full !
Absolutely! happens all the time. This should be discussed and ask your own MP why they are not there during these important speeches.
I'm on universal credit,and I received a message telling me,not asking,but telling me to upload pictures of the last 4 bank statements onto my universal credit account,so they can check everything that goes into my account. I only had 1 bank statement. So I contacted my bank and asked for the other 3 statements. They charged me £10 for them. It was my last £10.
Well done every Tory enabler in this country. Look what you did. To us, yourselves and your friends and families. I hope karma finds them all. Who do this Government think they are?. Seriously. They think they can do this. And remember Hancock even wanted to be the guy to decide who lives and who dies. They need reminding they are OUR SERVANTS. Not the other way around. The biggest bunch of criminals in this country want to see what we are doing. Them first eh?.
Labour when in power are known as viewing people who work as an absolute joke and are only interested in keeping generation after generation on benefits.
And the one percent are foreign scammers !
Who did you vote for?
@@trucker4567 Doesn't matter who Audrey voted for. The principle remains the same.
You lie to the government, you go to prison!
The government lies to you, it's called being a politician!
Do we get to inspect MPs bank accounts?
Thank you for speaking up for us . But as usual for the really important issues , the house is empty and it falls on deaf ears 😢
Fair play it’s ok so show us every politicians bank account as they work for the public let’s hold em accountable and send em to jail
I don’t normally agree with that side of the house but on this occasion I totally agree with him, bank accounts have got nothing to do with the government, this is the beginning of being “MEANS TESTED “