Yep....that is one beaut airplane ! Thanks ,cobber, for filming this bird !For perfection he should have painted the stripe and roundel over the smoke fuel pipe on the port side to try to hide it ...somewhat !Saw them perform at Richmond AFB in NSW, OZ, as a lad !
While it is a CAC-27, it has North American F-86E wings (hard leading edges). The landing gear, the entire empanage, canopy, and overall design is that of an NAA F-86 Sabre Jet. Modified only to accomodate the larger engine, just like the Canadair Models. It's Sabre in it's best iteration.
It also utilized the Aden 30mm cannon (162 rounds per gun - one on each side) as opposed to the 6 Browning .50BMG machine guns that both the American & Canadian versions used. It is NOT an "F-86", folks. It IS a CA-27/Mk32 Sabre.
Which was a Menzies (of Brisbane Line infamy) 'political' decision to Australia's 'great and powerful protectors' both happy. Thus the RR Avon coupled with the NA Sabre airframe was born. But sadly by the time these Mach .95 (transonic) were operational, the US North American F100 Super Sabre was also operational, AND nearly twice as fast at Mach 1.8 [in short, politics and aircraft do not mix!]
I worked on this aircraft restoration when I was in the RAAF. It was done a 2 Aircraft depot in Richmond, NSW. They were known as man-eaters - especially for unsuspecting ground crews!
So did I! Worked on the entire restoration at 2AD and was there when the then SQNLDR Dave Leach test flew it. Spent the next four years on the air show circuit with it, memorable days indeed. A pictorial history of the restoration complete with photos of all personnel involved now resides with the RAAF Museum, Point Cook.
I was in Naval Aviation and always wanted to have the chance to help do a restoration project, but alas that never happened, not much need for fire control expert on a civilian owned aerocraft.
This is the firsr time I've seen a F-86 with people around it so the size could be judged. I'm struct by just how small it is/was in comparison to the jets i worked on in the 70's, which are small compaired to jet fighters today.
What's with the tube running down the port side...???......an add on, if ever I've seen one....is that to eject fuel into the exhaust for demo. purposes ??
It is NOT an "F-86", folks. Unlike the American Sabre which used the GE J-47 engine, or the Canadian version which used the Orenda 14 (or 10, depending upon the version), this Sabre used the Rolls Royce RA-7 Avon producing 7,500 lbs of thrust. Sorry, FSXFABIGBOY, you're wrong, as well...
@@maxima2531 Indeed--the QF-86E, F, and H Sabres that the U.S. Army and U.S. Navy used as target drones also had smoke systems and fuselage-mounted oil lines, like this beautiful RAAF Avon Sabre (and kudos to the announcer for describing the technical details of the aircraft and its maneuvers in a way that even the most neophyte airshow attendee could understand--and find exciting!). The QF-86s' smoke oil tanks were specially molded to fit inside the (empty, in the drones) gun bay or compartment on the selected side of the aircraft; the oil tube had a quick-release link at the fuselage break, to make it easy to service or change out the jet engine without having to remove the entire oil tube from the plane.
I do agree the old bird is a very good looking aerocraft. It is still the aerocraft kids draw when they draw a jet to this day. I hope someone will keep'm flying for a long time.
RAAF Sabres were deployed for combat alongside the British RAF during the Borneo Confrontation (1962-66). It's been alleged that several Indonesian aircraft were shot down but the kills went unclaimed to avoid escalation into a full scale war.
Absolutely correct ian!!! Your spot on!!!! Thank you!!! Me being a former RAAF squadron pilot no 3 we didn't know of the escalating consequences!!! We were based @ Butterworth in the Mirage's !!!!
Roger that. I see this sort of thing often. I realize that to most people, a "Sabre is a Sabre is a Sabre", just like to most people, ANY small business jet is a "Lear jet". Maybe I'm being a wee bit too picky here, but I believe in calling things exactly what they are. If someone simply doesn't understand what a "CA-27/Mk32" is, they can certainly "Google" it and find out. In fact, if they don't know, they probably will. Cheers, JY
And it is also NOT an "F-86F", either. The F-86F used a G.E. J-47 engine - again, the CA-27/Mk32 used a much more powerful Rolls Royce RA-7 engine. The F-86F used 6 Browning .50BMG machine guns (3 on each side of the nose) - the CA-27 Sabre used 2 Aden 30mm revolver cannon (one on each side). BIG differences there.
@@insideoutsideupsidedown2218 yes major, these included, installation of the Rolls Royce Avon RA.7 turbojet engine, later replaced by the Rolls Royce Mk 26 Avon engine, giving substantially more power increased diameter of the nose air intake to accommodate the larger engine revised cockpit layout heavier armament - cannons instead of machine guns increased fuel capacity fitting of the Plessey isopropyl nitrate liquid fuel combustion starter, which allowed the aircraft to start without an external power source.
Commentator is wrong about other versions having "nowhere near as much power" as the Avon Sabre. The Canadian Orenda Sabre had virtually the same power; and the FJ4 Fury had more power.
I don't know about you, but 300 odd lbs of thrust over the Canadair would be greatly appreciated, and we are only talking about the RA7 Avon. Later Avon sabres saw an upgrade to the Mk.20 and then Mk.25 variant, almost doubling the thrust to weight ratio of other axial flow turbojets, whilst lbs of thrust yes is important, the power to climb at tremendous speeds coupled with the higher top speeds, Id say the commentator was bang on the money, no other sabre variant could ever perform at these numbers, including the FJ-4 when the Avon went through its final stages, thus making it the greatest sabre variant of all time, and we haven't even started talking about armament.
@@AussieAircraft98 I do wish we (in the U.S) had adopted the Avon Sabre as the next-level day fighter in the Sabre series (the F-86D, with its modified nose accommodating a radar system, was an all-weather and day/night interceptor rather than a dogfighting Sabre), as we did have at least one Avon-powered aircraft, the Sud Caravelle jetliner (United Airlines used them). Also, we used a license-built version of the English Electric Canberra (as the Martin B-57 Canberra, modified for USAF requirements, having a narrower tandem cockpit and powered by Curtiss-Wright J65 turbojets [license-built Armstrong Siddeley engines]).
I heard that ALL Sabres in Australia have been grounded because they cannot obtain compliant ejector seat cartridges.. Is this true.. It would be a shame to see them all grounded.
05hit Ah, okay. My information might be out of date then. How long since you were there? I was under the impression they had a mechanic who was working with the pyrotechnics of ejection seats. I don't know if this aircraft is affected or not because I don't know what the shelf life of those pyros is. If they don't need to be replaced then I don't see any reason why they couldn't fly it but I'm guessing there's a service life.
Lovely! @4:10 - announcer gives a speed in mph..says he can't tell what that is in km/h - Come on dude!! Australia has been metric for 40 years..he must have been living in a cave since 1973.
@@janreznak881 We--the whole world--will probably always use the nautical mile and the knot (1 nautical mile per hour) because they are independent of any measurement system (ASA [American Standards Association, whose inch-pound based units are NOT the same as Imperial units, as ours pre-date the Revolutionary War and the 1820s-adopted Imperial units], Imperial, or SI [metric]), as they are measured directly from the Earth. One nautical mile is 1 minute (1/60 of a degree of latitude along any line of longitude, exactly 1852 meters), and a velocity of 1 knot is that distance per one hour. Even distances and velocities in space flight are often expressed (including by NASA) in nautical miles and nautical miles per hour, since these Earth-referenced values are convenient for satellite launches and orbital maneuvers.
Actually Jingles... the speed would be in knots (nautical miles per hour) not statute mph. So the conversion is 1.8 kmph per knot. Multiply by two and take off 10 percent.
Don't forget to mention that 16 of them also made a diamond formation loop on an Ariel display on the visit of queen Elizabeth in 1960's. A world record was made by our great pilots.
Boomerang flying a low pass over the Sabre while it taxis, beautiful.
It’s still vivid on my mind the United Artists movie “Sabre Jet” in 1953, very nostalgic. Thanks for blogging this UA-cam video.
1957 Jet pilot is good too. ua-cam.com/video/Oet7RoEpqzQ/v-deo.html
I worked on some of the instruments during this aircraft’s restoration at 2AD back in the 80’s... takes me back and thx for posting!
Excellent video! The Sabre was such a pretty aircraft! And I really liked the professional commentary.
beautiful little jet. I love how small the first Migs and US derived jets were.
Yep....that is one beaut airplane ! Thanks ,cobber, for filming this bird !For perfection he should have painted the stripe and roundel over the smoke fuel pipe on the port side to try to hide it ...somewhat !Saw them perform at Richmond AFB in NSW, OZ, as a lad !
The F86 is a beautiful aircraft.
Credit also goes to cameraman but such a superb video.
As I said earlier, I used enjoy The Top Hats perform at Richmond in the 50s....superb aircraft, for its time !
While it is a CAC-27, it has North American F-86E wings (hard leading edges). The landing gear, the entire empanage, canopy, and overall design is that of an NAA F-86 Sabre Jet. Modified only to accomodate the larger engine, just like the Canadair Models. It's Sabre in it's best iteration.
It also utilized the Aden 30mm cannon (162 rounds per gun - one on each side) as opposed to the 6 Browning .50BMG machine guns that both the American & Canadian versions used. It is NOT an "F-86", folks. It IS a CA-27/Mk32 Sabre.
Which was a Menzies (of Brisbane Line infamy) 'political' decision to Australia's 'great and powerful protectors' both happy. Thus the RR Avon coupled with the NA Sabre airframe was born. But sadly by the time these Mach .95 (transonic) were operational, the US North American F100 Super Sabre was also operational, AND nearly twice as fast at Mach 1.8 [in short, politics and aircraft do not mix!]
Your spot on my friend i did 3 weeks in ca27 before conversion to mirage 3 it was A3-17 my baby before I met my wife!!! Lol
Yes a Rolls Royce powered Avon Sabre . Better than the Original.
One of the last best fighter's ever ! Sporty ? oh yeah!! Love these & the old mirages!!!!
Awesome video. Thanks.
Brilliant vid mate.
I worked on this aircraft restoration when I was in the RAAF. It was done a 2 Aircraft depot in Richmond, NSW. They were known as man-eaters - especially for unsuspecting ground crews!
So did I! Worked on the entire restoration at 2AD and was there when the then SQNLDR Dave Leach test flew it. Spent the next four years on the air show circuit with it, memorable days indeed. A pictorial history of the restoration complete with photos of all personnel involved now resides with the RAAF Museum, Point Cook.
Is that a newer Martin Baker ejection seat?
I was in Naval Aviation and always wanted to have the chance to help do a restoration project, but alas that never happened, not much need for fire control expert on a civilian owned aerocraft.
Great video
Can't tie this kangaroo down, sport!!
Still remains a beaut of a plane.
What a great airplane!
Thank you for the great video.
It is said that the F-86 is a very stable aircraft.
I wonder how many are flying.
What is the cable on the left side of its fuselage?
This is the firsr time I've seen a F-86 with people around it so the size could be judged. I'm struct by just how small it is/was in comparison to the jets i worked on in the 70's, which are small compaired to jet fighters today.
What's with the tube running down the port side...???......an add on, if ever I've seen one....is that to eject fuel into the exhaust for demo. purposes ??
It is NOT an "F-86", folks. Unlike the American Sabre which used the GE J-47 engine, or the Canadian version which used the Orenda 14 (or 10, depending upon the version), this Sabre used the Rolls Royce RA-7 Avon producing 7,500 lbs of thrust. Sorry, FSXFABIGBOY, you're wrong, as well...
Starting at 9:30, what is the pipe line or conduit that extends along the left side of the fuselage?
oil pipe for the smoke machine to pump oil into the exhaust
@@maxima2531 Indeed--the QF-86E, F, and H Sabres that the U.S. Army and U.S. Navy used as target drones also had smoke systems and fuselage-mounted oil lines, like this beautiful RAAF Avon Sabre (and kudos to the announcer for describing the technical details of the aircraft and its maneuvers in a way that even the most neophyte airshow attendee could understand--and find exciting!). The QF-86s' smoke oil tanks were specially molded to fit inside the (empty, in the drones) gun bay or compartment on the selected side of the aircraft; the oil tube had a quick-release link at the fuselage break, to make it easy to service or change out the jet engine without having to remove the entire oil tube from the plane.
Acho que não é o f-86 Sabre , parece ser o Mig- 17 modificado
I do agree the old bird is a very good looking aerocraft. It is still the aerocraft kids draw when they draw a jet to this day. I hope someone will keep'm flying for a long time.
RAAF Sabres were deployed for combat alongside the British RAF during the Borneo Confrontation (1962-66). It's been alleged that several Indonesian aircraft were shot down but the kills went unclaimed to avoid escalation into a full scale war.
Absolutely correct ian!!! Your spot on!!!! Thank you!!! Me being a former RAAF squadron pilot no 3 we didn't know of the escalating consequences!!! We were based @ Butterworth in the Mirage's !!!!
Nice quality video What camera and lens were you using?
In the Korean Air War those "starters" were a wanted commodity
What was leaking out of it after it landed from the mid section?
Could be coolant or AC lol
The a/ c was pissing after that hectic flight....
Engine fuel bleed most likely. You don’t want AVTUR pooling in the bottom of an engine as you get what they call a ‘wet start’.
Roger that. I see this sort of thing often. I realize that to most people, a "Sabre is a Sabre is a Sabre", just like to most people, ANY small business jet is a "Lear jet". Maybe I'm being a wee bit too picky here, but I believe in calling things exactly what they are. If someone simply doesn't understand what a "CA-27/Mk32" is, they can certainly "Google" it and find out. In fact, if they don't know, they probably will. Cheers, JY
And it is also NOT an "F-86F", either. The F-86F used a G.E. J-47 engine - again, the CA-27/Mk32 used a much more powerful Rolls Royce RA-7 engine. The F-86F used 6 Browning .50BMG machine guns (3 on each side of the nose) - the CA-27 Sabre used 2 Aden 30mm revolver cannon (one on each side). BIG differences there.
paraord1410 any differences in the airframe? Otherwise, its like changing an engine out of a vw bettle and installing a 350.....
@@insideoutsideupsidedown2218 yes major, these included,
installation of the Rolls Royce Avon RA.7 turbojet engine, later replaced by the Rolls Royce Mk 26 Avon engine, giving substantially more power
increased diameter of the nose air intake to accommodate the larger engine
revised cockpit layout
heavier armament - cannons instead of machine guns
increased fuel capacity
fitting of the Plessey isopropyl nitrate liquid fuel combustion starter, which allowed the aircraft to start without an external power source.
Did anyone notice the the ufo passing through the at 1.09
Another CAC product, the Boomerang fighter.
Lol..... that UFO of yours now a days is called a "Fly"...😅😅😅
@@mirzawaseem2006 well at least we know what it was then,
Good job 👍
Commentator is wrong about other versions having "nowhere near as much power" as the Avon Sabre. The Canadian Orenda Sabre had virtually the same power; and the FJ4 Fury had more power.
I don't know about you, but 300 odd lbs of thrust over the Canadair would be greatly appreciated, and we are only talking about the RA7 Avon. Later Avon sabres saw an upgrade to the Mk.20 and then Mk.25 variant, almost doubling the thrust to weight ratio of other axial flow turbojets, whilst lbs of thrust yes is important, the power to climb at tremendous speeds coupled with the higher top speeds, Id say the commentator was bang on the money, no other sabre variant could ever perform at these numbers, including the FJ-4 when the Avon went through its final stages, thus making it the greatest sabre variant of all time, and we haven't even started talking about armament.
@@AussieAircraft98 Phew! "nowhere near" was over the top.
@@AussieAircraft98 I do wish we (in the U.S) had adopted the Avon Sabre as the next-level day fighter in the Sabre series (the F-86D, with its modified nose accommodating a radar system, was an all-weather and day/night interceptor rather than a dogfighting Sabre), as we did have at least one Avon-powered aircraft, the Sud Caravelle jetliner (United Airlines used them). Also, we used a license-built version of the English Electric Canberra (as the Martin B-57 Canberra, modified for USAF requirements, having a narrower tandem cockpit and powered by Curtiss-Wright J65 turbojets [license-built Armstrong Siddeley engines]).
I heard that ALL Sabres in Australia have been grounded because they cannot obtain compliant ejector seat cartridges.. Is this true.. It would be a shame to see them all grounded.
+agedflier Sad but true, the ejection seat is no longer supported by the manufacturer.
+05hit I would have thought that they could have sourced them from the US where they still fly.
The Temora Sabre still has an active ejection seat.
+TheThirdMan It was in Temora where they told me they couldn't get parts, if they found a solution then that's fantastic news!
05hit Ah, okay. My information might be out of date then. How long since you were there? I was under the impression they had a mechanic who was working with the pyrotechnics of ejection seats. I don't know if this aircraft is affected or not because I don't know what the shelf life of those pyros is. If they don't need to be replaced then I don't see any reason why they couldn't fly it but I'm guessing there's a service life.
Sensational....
Lovely!
@4:10 - announcer gives a speed in mph..says he can't tell what that is in km/h - Come on dude!! Australia has been metric for 40 years..he must have been living in a cave since 1973.
LOL! All it takes is multiplying by 1.6 (for reasonable accuracy) and you're there!
Aviation still uses imperial for height and speed don't they
Yes feet for height and nautical miles an hour (knots) for speed, but Russian birds use meters and kph.
@@janreznak881 We--the whole world--will probably always use the nautical mile and the knot (1 nautical mile per hour) because they are independent of any measurement system (ASA [American Standards Association, whose inch-pound based units are NOT the same as Imperial units, as ours pre-date the Revolutionary War and the 1820s-adopted Imperial units], Imperial, or SI [metric]), as they are measured directly from the Earth. One nautical mile is 1 minute (1/60 of a degree of latitude along any line of longitude, exactly 1852 meters), and a velocity of 1 knot is that distance per one hour. Even distances and velocities in space flight are often expressed (including by NASA) in nautical miles and nautical miles per hour, since these Earth-referenced values are convenient for satellite launches and orbital maneuvers.
Actually Jingles... the speed would be in knots (nautical miles per hour) not statute mph. So the conversion is 1.8 kmph per knot. Multiply by two and take off 10 percent.
mm alam shot down 5 indian jet in less than one minute in 1965 with this sabre jet
Don't forget to mention that 16 of them also made a diamond formation loop on an Ariel display on the visit of queen Elizabeth in 1960's. A world record was made by our great pilots.
As an old Aussie pilot, I find the commentators at these airshows SO ANNOYING, and usually full of BS minus knowledge.
Ocker commentary.
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