Should you Pre Load POP??? // Kiteboarding SA Masterclass
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- Опубліковано 5 чер 2024
- All the pros do it on their massive jumps and loops? But should you add the pre load pop to your jumping routine? I'll break down the movements to understand why and how it works.
00:00 Introduction
01:06 How it works
02:20 Advantages
03:00 When to pre load pop
03:50 Timing
04:49 Keypoints
05:39 Should you pre load pop?
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I started having this debate with students about 2 years ago. I came to the exact same conclusion. Nice to hear someone more acknowledged explaining his point of view. thanks !
It's a discussion that loads of riders have. Happy to hear you came to the same conclusion 🤙
I think this was a much-needed video on the subject and definitely the best one out there. Lots of valuable little tips that I wish I knew earlier. Thanks dude, keep 'm up!
I was also surprised about the little amount of information I could find about this topic. Glad to hear that you enjoyed the video
High quality Content! 🔥
Thanks!
Great video, always gaining new knowledge watching your vids man!
That's awesome to hear, thanks!
Awesome content man!
Thanks! I'm glad to hear that you're enjoying it
Very good explanation! Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
Very interesting, thanks Steven!
It's my pleasure!
Great content as always mate! Keep it up! ⚡️
Thanks!
Great stuff!
Glad you like it!
Very useful video, thank you!
Glad you like it!
I feel I have to leave a comment and like all your videos because your videos are all fire 🔥 and teach me so much
Thanks for that, it helps me out a lot. I'm very glad to hear that you're enjoying my videos. If you keep on commenting ill keep on posting 😉
@@stevenakkersdijk will do!
Great video as always 🤙🤙🤙
Thanks! Glad you like it 🤙
Thank you for the video!
Thanks for watching 🤙
answered my questions, thanks!
My pleasure!
One of the better videos I’ve seen explaining the pre load pop. Appreciate the info! Side note: great getting to meet you in OBX a couple weeks ago. I’m still trying to get the moonslide down.
Glad you liked it! The moonslide can take some time to understand and do. Was great meeting you and see you on the beach somewhere!
Thanks to the amazing tutorial video
My pleasure!
Nicely explained sir!
Thank you, glad you like it!
Love the videos keep it up!
Thanks! Will do!
Thank’s Steven! U R the best!
It's my pleasure!
Great video man 🤙
Glad you like it!
I have tried to get this down but it is very difficult to do but I really enjoy the way it looks.
It is very difficult indeed, keep practising and you should be able to get it after a while
Great vidéo man, would love to have the same tips on choppy/wave water.
Will do a video like that, just not sure when I get the time to create it.
On point ;) THX 🤙
Thanks for watching 🤙
Loved the video, agree on all of it. Maybe talk about preload pops before kiteloops compared to preloads before big jumps (like jamie's) in the future. Goals are way different, but you probably know :D
It's a great suggestion. To be honest I didn't really know much about the pre load pop because I just did it in some cases and not on others. Don't think the video will come any time soon as I have a priority on some other videos.
Thanks again for the suggestion, and I might dive back in to the subject at a certain point.
Great explanation Steven! I will stick in the 90% club
It's my pleasure!
I did this by accident today. I have seen it in a video a few years ago. Though I'm not sure that I did an ollie first, but rather did the initial motion of a pop, and then flew down wind for a second before popping. Damn I must've gotten 1/3 higher than I'd been jumping today on the flat. So I tried a few more times with varying success. The main thing I was unsure about was were the kite should be prior to the pre-load pop. I'll give 11 and then send to 12 while still in the air. Thanks for the video. It took me a little while to find it as I wasn't sure what this trick was called but watched one of your other videos in which you mention pre-load pop.
Awesome! Super nice you managed to get a pre load pop in with succes! Hope you can apply it to more of your jumps 🤙
Thanks for the video !!! happy to see that I know the theory well. Now just have to keep practicing.
You are saying the pre load pop is useless in light wind, but I've find it easier to start it in light wind to avoid getting yanked when sending the kite tho.
For practise you can definitely do it in light winds, but it has less of an effect on your final jump height. Good luck practising 🤙
I don't know why, but I can only pop the side I don't jump on... the side I jump on doesn't pop, as if the legs were locked, it's weird.
I know that feeling, you just have to keep on trying and figure out why it's not working. Are you not carving? are you not lifting your legs? There are a lot of options 😉
one of the key points of the jump with preload pop is that it goes more vertical, adding more control to tricks
I'm not entirely sure if I agree with you there. By popping off the water the kite will actually sit deeper in the window making it harder to do a vertical jump.
@@stevenakkersdijk on my current level the difference is huge
I think there is another slight benefit to preloadpoppers. Holding tension in your legs while edging takes effort, and releasing/changing position for even just that moment, allows extra explosive force to be applied in the carve. Standard practice in freestyle riding , innit.
Another great video. Cheers bro.
Yes, also another great benefit to release with an explosive force
I think in choppy conditions with medium/strong wind the preload is kinda mandatory in order to mantain the speed absorbing the first wave by hopping over it and carving hard into the second one. In flat water the benefit is minimal so I fully agree
It definitely helps a lot to place your carve in the middle of the chop. Use it a lot for exactly that.
Great video! Were you at Cape Hatteras last week? Thought I saw you at kite point.
Yes I was, we left about a week ago.
Hi .great video as always😃 how About a video that describes where you should have the bar during the carve. I struggle with getting height over 8-9 meters regardless of what size kite. There are a lot of videos talking about speed , carve and turning the kite. But haven’t seen anyone talking about where the bar is positioned on during the carve..
That's a very interesting suggestion and very valuable indeed. I'll look in to it and work on a video like that. Thanks!
Hi Steven, great video as always👍. I have a question though. You are saying that by preload popping you decrease the line tension a little bit. In very light wind (14-16 knots on 12m) I’m trying to do the opposite - to increase the line tension by popping a little bit upwind and sheeting the bar in a little bit. In my experience this helps the kite to fly faster to 12 and jump higher. What is your opinion? Thank you very much.
There are many ways to do a pre load pop and if I would carve before the pop it would have a totally different effect. If you feel like it makes a difference I guess you're on the right track 🤙 Can't really make any other comments on it as I would have to see it instead of reading about it 😉
Toppie voor de uitleg en nu weet ik dat ik er nog even mee moet wachten sowiezo om het te doen volgens surfr is me pop op pro stand wel altijd 80 tot 90% maar zie het nog niet terug in hoogte dus denk dat ik eerst de rest moet perfectioneren
Top man, dan ga je in ieder geval de goede richting op!
Nice video... The time is very important.. i have a question about It... If i riding with a 14mq and 19 knots... The kite when i preload Is a Little slow to back inside the Window'wind... There Is to Say that i riding with the kite very low for more Speed... And for go at 12 o'clock the kite Need a Moment more... So i ask... In this condition do you think that i can approciate with "jump prepop" not "while" but "After" Turning the kite... it's a mistake for you? Or not? Thanks in advance
On the bigger sizes it does make sense to do your pre load pop a moment after you steered the kite up towards 12. So I totally agree to what you're saying 🤙
Your exemple is in nearly glazzy water! In very choppy condition (meaning very little kickers but very high frequency of very small waves as 20cm high each 30cm), it is quite difficult to find an efficient technique to make a good high jump, especially when riding quite front to the small waves. Some tips to help?😎
I'll dedicated an upcoming video to this topic as I do know that perfect flat water is something not a lot of people ride in.
I have a question 🤔- can you overcurve in strog wind, so you cant even load a pop?
I mean- i make preload pop in tow cases -
1) i need to overjump my bubby right now , even if my kite to high
2) i get somehow tons of tention in line, and I need to move it gentle towords 12, in order not to show a master class on bodydrag (i just fiel that i can't load normal jump on full speed)
Timing is key when jumping and to me it sounds like you should carve later.
Make sure you steer the kite up first and only start carving when the kite is close to 12
@Steven Akkersdijk thanks a lot for advice
I've tried this many times, but never works form me because I lose all my edge on the jump, and I can't stomp on the water because the kite is already pulling me up when I hit the water and I just end up with nothing. I might be jumping too late
Hard to say what you should improve on by reading your description. My suggestion would be to stick with a normal carve towards the wind without a pre load pop.
The only advantage of the preload pop is the kinetic energy of your body weight, making a better carve possible and be less influenced by chop. Windwindow is dynamic, so the explanation about flying forward/backward is not completely true, it's the window that shifts forward/backward and the kite that responds to that new window. I'm always amazed about how people would explain that you have to edge hard so the kite shoots forward to dump power in overpowered conditions, but at the same time have to edge hard so the kite shoots forward for the most powerful jumps.
Totally agree on the kinetic energy and dynamic wind window. I decided to go for a simple explanation as the dynamic wind window is something I can dedicate an entire video to 😅 Carving hard upwind does slow you down, but first you'll feel an increase in power which you can use to jump high, when you carve through that power you'll be able to slow down.
@@stevenakkersdijk Agreed. A dynamic window video couldn't hurt, I think there are a lot of misconceptions in the sport.
i don't understand how you guys do it in a straight line without basically going downwind...if i pop i end up 2/3m downwind and lose my line tension 😭
Sounds like you're popping too big 😉
The pop can be as subtle as a little lift of the knees, depending on the conditions of course.
Steven u said in the video u should not pre load pop in over powered conditions i don't agree with that
Why do you disagree? Curious to hear your explanation. (Of course it also depends on what you call overpowered. For me overpowered is the moment where you're having a lot of trouble to hold your edge and a gust will accelerate you so much that it's nearly impossible to slow down)