Obviously we should have started rebuilding at least a year ago, but I am glad we are doing it now nonetheless. Some solid signings so far and we FINALLY are the ones getting a couple of picks in a deal even if they are seconds. We need as many picks as we can get to navigate this rebuild successfully. Still wish we got some seconds or a first in the Caruso deal, but whatever
Bulls had no leverage. They should of traded him last yr at the trade dead line. The man had the stats that warranted the money he wanted. He is a Dawg! Sacramento was the only team wanting to pay him anywhere he wanted. His age in a 3 yr deal is miniscual. He competes every night! Thank you Chicago for early christmas gift...
They absolutely should've traded him last year and even the year prior. I completely agree about that But given the circumstances, I'm happy about the deal when I was expecting the Bulls to get nothing for him (and I would've been fine with that too) Sacramento got a good dude and I hope it all works out. I have major questions about the fit and I worry when DeRozan will officially start to decline. But Sac doubled down on being offensive oriented and should be winning every clutch game with Fox and DeRozan (I said should. I didn't say will.)
Without attaching an asset(s) I do not see a path to move Lavine. Nobody wants him and the new CBA and CAP rules make it difficult for teams to take on Zach;s salary.
You're right about the new CBA rules, but I honestly think teams are not interested bc they don't know if he's healthy. I believe if he shows he's healthy, teams will be willing to take him. That's not me saying the Bulls get anything valuable in return for him. That's me saying that teams will be willing to take him without the Bulls giving up a pick, too. I could 100% be wrong about this, and I'll admit it if I am wrong. But he's too good of a player that fits the modern day style for teams to say he has negative value, even with the big contract and not so great defense
I disagree with your take vehemently. Rebuilding teams need cap space when they feel ready to compete as opposed to the currently tanking ones. There is no scenario in the nba where you need cap space less than when you're tanking. As of right now, they want as many tradeable assets and picks as possible as long as they stay under the cap to avoid penalties. Really bad move for the Bulls. I also guarantee you that most teams can get at least 1 FRP for someone considered a top 30 player in the league .. aging or not. Just look at the Haul for Dame, who is ranked around the same place as Demar (in actuality he's worse) and is the same age. Or consider that Buddy Hield almost got the same return in his sign and trade, who isn't even considered a top 100 player.
@@superslavbross9935 True. But they were both signed at the moment they got traded. I'm aware the return is less with S&T, but not being able to land a single FRP is simply ridiculous in this day and age for a top 25-30 player. Don't forget, Dame is also on a terrible contract which brought his value down. Demar barely got a better return than a Buddy Hield sign and trade. To say the alternative is to get nothing back would be a false narrative. Demar wanted the security from a sign and trade. It was also in his best interest. Otherwise, his contract would not have paid him as lucratively.
@@superslavbross9935 For example, Demar fits quite well on the GSWs and that team is clearly trying to capitalize on the remainder of Steph's all-star years. I'm not behind the front office, but there's no doubt of the 29 teams they could have found better. A 2029 FRP from Warriors will be a gold mine while Sac will probably be average at worst. I'm aware no one wants to pick up Andrew Wiggins, but if you;re tanking he's the perfect guy. His contract expires in 26-27, basically the soonest the Bulls can possibly complete if they have a quick rebuild. Then money comes off the books when you actually need it.
I disagree with almost everything you've said, but I'm glad we can discuss it Would u be willing to part ways with a first round pick for a 35 year old DeMar DeRozan? I'm aware he's still a good player, but let's be real here. This isn't a scenario where the Bulls have the leverage to maximize DeRozan's value. He's an UFA. If they wanted a FRP, they should've traded him 2 seasons ago or last year when he was under contract Your comparison to the Dame trade is pretty poor imo. Dame is clearly better than DeRozan, was under contract through the 2025-26 season, is also younger, is coming in to be the 2nd star next to an MVP, and his game fits the modern day basketball DeRozan is an UFA, going to be 35, worse than Lillard, is coming in to be at best the 3rd option, and doesn't fit the modern day style of play. I don't see these two trades being comparable at all imo. That's my opinion tho and u have every right to disagree I also completely disagree with your analysis on cap space for bad teams. Bad teams don't want any long-term salary. U even mention a reason why which is when they're about to become good, they want to have money to spend. So bad teams want to clear cap so they can have that money to spend later, but also use that money to acquire assets. Literally just look at what the Spurs did in this DeRozan trade. They cleared cap and acquired Barnes's contract and got a FRP swap out of it. Also to make things clear, teams can go over the cap without being penalized. There's a major difference between being over the cap, which the Bulls currently are, and being in the luxury tax, which the Bulls are currently avoiding. So using cap space to take on bad contracts won't penalize the team, even if the team goes over the cap I also don't believe GSW would spend a FRP on DeRozan by any means. I also don't think he fits their system at all. Not to mention, GSW is in a major bind due to new CBA restrictions so spending a chunk of money on DeRozan is just a bad business decision.
Love how analytical this guy is!
Obviously we should have started rebuilding at least a year ago, but I am glad we are doing it now nonetheless. Some solid signings so far and we FINALLY are the ones getting a couple of picks in a deal even if they are seconds. We need as many picks as we can get to navigate this rebuild successfully. Still wish we got some seconds or a first in the Caruso deal, but whatever
Please do some postgame vids this season .
I'll consider doing post game videos, but I do postgame streams after almost every Bulls game!
@@theslamduncan I’ll take it . Appreciated
Bulls had no leverage. They should of traded him last yr at the trade dead line. The man had the stats that warranted the money he wanted. He is a Dawg! Sacramento was the only team wanting to pay him anywhere he wanted. His age in a 3 yr deal is miniscual. He competes every night! Thank you Chicago for early christmas gift...
They absolutely should've traded him last year and even the year prior. I completely agree about that
But given the circumstances, I'm happy about the deal when I was expecting the Bulls to get nothing for him (and I would've been fine with that too)
Sacramento got a good dude and I hope it all works out. I have major questions about the fit and I worry when DeRozan will officially start to decline. But Sac doubled down on being offensive oriented and should be winning every clutch game with Fox and DeRozan (I said should. I didn't say will.)
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Without attaching an asset(s) I do not see a path to move Lavine. Nobody wants him and the new CBA and CAP rules make it difficult for teams to take on Zach;s salary.
You're right about the new CBA rules, but I honestly think teams are not interested bc they don't know if he's healthy. I believe if he shows he's healthy, teams will be willing to take him. That's not me saying the Bulls get anything valuable in return for him. That's me saying that teams will be willing to take him without the Bulls giving up a pick, too. I could 100% be wrong about this, and I'll admit it if I am wrong. But he's too good of a player that fits the modern day style for teams to say he has negative value, even with the big contract and not so great defense
I disagree with your take vehemently. Rebuilding teams need cap space when they feel ready to compete as opposed to the currently tanking ones. There is no scenario in the nba where you need cap space less than when you're tanking. As of right now, they want as many tradeable assets and picks as possible as long as they stay under the cap to avoid penalties. Really bad move for the Bulls.
I also guarantee you that most teams can get at least 1 FRP for someone considered a top 30 player in the league .. aging or not. Just look at the Haul for Dame, who is ranked around the same place as Demar (in actuality he's worse) and is the same age. Or consider that Buddy Hield almost got the same return in his sign and trade, who isn't even considered a top 100 player.
Dame trade was also S&T?
@@superslavbross9935 True. But they were both signed at the moment they got traded. I'm aware the return is less with S&T, but not being able to land a single FRP is simply ridiculous in this day and age for a top 25-30 player. Don't forget, Dame is also on a terrible contract which brought his value down. Demar barely got a better return than a Buddy Hield sign and trade.
To say the alternative is to get nothing back would be a false narrative. Demar wanted the security from a sign and trade. It was also in his best interest. Otherwise, his contract would not have paid him as lucratively.
@@superslavbross9935 For example, Demar fits quite well on the GSWs and that team is clearly trying to capitalize on the remainder of Steph's all-star years. I'm not behind the front office, but there's no doubt of the 29 teams they could have found better. A 2029 FRP from Warriors will be a gold mine while Sac will probably be average at worst.
I'm aware no one wants to pick up Andrew Wiggins, but if you;re tanking he's the perfect guy. His contract expires in 26-27, basically the soonest the Bulls can possibly complete if they have a quick rebuild. Then money comes off the books when you actually need it.
I disagree with almost everything you've said, but I'm glad we can discuss it
Would u be willing to part ways with a first round pick for a 35 year old DeMar DeRozan? I'm aware he's still a good player, but let's be real here. This isn't a scenario where the Bulls have the leverage to maximize DeRozan's value. He's an UFA. If they wanted a FRP, they should've traded him 2 seasons ago or last year when he was under contract
Your comparison to the Dame trade is pretty poor imo. Dame is clearly better than DeRozan, was under contract through the 2025-26 season, is also younger, is coming in to be the 2nd star next to an MVP, and his game fits the modern day basketball
DeRozan is an UFA, going to be 35, worse than Lillard, is coming in to be at best the 3rd option, and doesn't fit the modern day style of play. I don't see these two trades being comparable at all imo. That's my opinion tho and u have every right to disagree
I also completely disagree with your analysis on cap space for bad teams. Bad teams don't want any long-term salary. U even mention a reason why which is when they're about to become good, they want to have money to spend. So bad teams want to clear cap so they can have that money to spend later, but also use that money to acquire assets. Literally just look at what the Spurs did in this DeRozan trade. They cleared cap and acquired Barnes's contract and got a FRP swap out of it.
Also to make things clear, teams can go over the cap without being penalized. There's a major difference between being over the cap, which the Bulls currently are, and being in the luxury tax, which the Bulls are currently avoiding. So using cap space to take on bad contracts won't penalize the team, even if the team goes over the cap
I also don't believe GSW would spend a FRP on DeRozan by any means. I also don't think he fits their system at all. Not to mention, GSW is in a major bind due to new CBA restrictions so spending a chunk of money on DeRozan is just a bad business decision.