Why We Will Never Get Another Disco Elysium!

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  • @melman
    @melman 11 місяців тому +1414

    Who the hell is Harry Dubois? I think you mean Raphaël Ambrosius Costeau.

    • @tuner6255
      @tuner6255 11 місяців тому +143

      I thought it was Tequila Sunset

    • @mutemeimscared1632
      @mutemeimscared1632 10 місяців тому +63

      I think you mean fire walker

    • @kevinrosario2729
      @kevinrosario2729 8 місяців тому +93

      You mean Dick Mullen?

    • @paperhat_boi
      @paperhat_boi 8 місяців тому

      You mean "shitkid"

    • @dormiebasne3578
      @dormiebasne3578 8 місяців тому

      ​@@kevinrosario2729dick fucking mullen
      Dick Mullen from the Best Seller "Dick Mullen and the Missing Identity"

  • @trevor4533
    @trevor4533 5 місяців тому +171

    “Ip theft”
    Shows a photo of ip addresses 😂

    • @solidbeard8324
      @solidbeard8324 3 місяці тому +1

      You know it's stock footage, right ?

    • @trevor4533
      @trevor4533 3 місяці тому +7

      @@solidbeard8324 Yeah, its still funny though lol.

    • @anotheryoutubeuser
      @anotheryoutubeuser 3 місяці тому +18

      That is because this video is AI generated.

    • @OidhcheMhath
      @OidhcheMhath 3 місяці тому +3

      Could've been 3 copies of Sims...

    • @superchunkyspacemnky
      @superchunkyspacemnky 2 місяці тому +2

      Got me too, lol! :D

  • @canoodlepoodle7892
    @canoodlepoodle7892 Рік тому +385

    They had so much capital not only did light bend around them, but the company as well.

    • @window8050
      @window8050 6 місяців тому +3

      duuuuuude😂

    • @MrNoobed
      @MrNoobed 4 місяці тому +2

      One story I read was the same thing in the game happened to them. Like one drawing was sold to a mega rich dude for a stupid amount of money and then that guy bought the studio

  • @T.R.A.I.N.I.N.G.
    @T.R.A.I.N.I.N.G. Рік тому +754

    hate killed them but capitalism pulled the trigger

  • @rubixd9v2
    @rubixd9v2 5 місяців тому +35

    The image for the “IP theft” scene showed actual IP addresses… wrong IP there lmao

  • @BartixShieldsmen
    @BartixShieldsmen 4 місяці тому +18

    With how messy the politics and people are in game this is kind of both ironic and fitting that the IP itself is in the middle of a massive legal battle with messy people and messy internal politics.
    In fairness i dont FEEL like this is a game that could ever have a sequel do it justice. Spin offs or other games taking inspiration of its thought system? Definitely, but I dont think the magic of Harry Dubois and figuring out who he is could ever be caught again.

    • @akospapanitz8390
      @akospapanitz8390 28 днів тому

      Yeah I think it shouldn't have sequel but a completely different game which has similar debates in the protagonist's mind.
      I loved that I just wondered around, a thought came up and it said something like "Hey, don't you think that we should grind the burgeoisie to the ground"😂

  • @salmon_wine
    @salmon_wine 8 місяців тому +276

    god how fitting is it that a leftist game that takes a brutally honest look at ways the left destroys itself with infighting, was destroyed by infighting between its leftist creators. Frankly, it's as poetic as it is tragic

    • @rondomane
      @rondomane 8 місяців тому +71

      i think you're simplifying the game and the situation with ZA/UM quite a lot

    • @salmon_wine
      @salmon_wine 8 місяців тому +27

      @@rondomane well, yeah... More detail and I can't make a funny ha-ha UA-cam comment about it. It's like, when people make jokes about tragedies, they don't follow up by discussing the family left behind, cuz it kinda kills the mood lmao

    • @AyoMousy
      @AyoMousy 8 місяців тому +60

      Nah it was because their office was in the Doomed Commerical Area they told their story within a story that's why they failed they explain it in the game.

    • @salmon_wine
      @salmon_wine 8 місяців тому +5

      @@uuves hey thanks for your hand in making some of the best pieces of writing that has ever come together into a video game! I'm sorry that everything went the way it did, it's never easy to have a project of passion ripped away from you

    • @RollerOfEyes
      @RollerOfEyes 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@salmon_winebut this... Wasn't a joke?

  • @livescreaming
    @livescreaming 11 місяців тому +239

    This is why the corporate side of gaming needs to be dead in a ditch

    • @MaQuGo119
      @MaQuGo119 5 місяців тому

      Good luck trying to make a game as big and good as this without a corporation, commie

    • @solidbeard8324
      @solidbeard8324 3 місяці тому +2

      It just needs a gamer friendly mindset and not a greedy corporate one.

    • @TheUnMaka
      @TheUnMaka 3 місяці тому +3

      Certain times, you do need a corporation like Valve or Steam.

    • @nexty3230
      @nexty3230 2 місяці тому +4

      @@solidbeard8324 Heroin just needs a Smiley on their packaging

    • @Moji55a
      @Moji55a Місяць тому +1

      ​@@TheUnMakaNah we need New Blood Interactive.

  • @3manResu
    @3manResu 10 місяців тому +115

    wtf is going on they trying to make the game to the reality

    • @WeekndWarriorrr
      @WeekndWarriorrr Місяць тому +1

      Sadly the game was based on reality. It shouldn't be surprising this happened tbh, but for some reason it is.

  • @DZoe01
    @DZoe01 Рік тому +174

    How can you steal something that is yours? Just BS. Just leave the IP at the hands of Robert Kurvitz!

    • @perfectlyfine1675
      @perfectlyfine1675 Рік тому

      Under Capitalism it's only natural rhat the men who made the game are somehow the ones that have to "steal" the IP. IP being... Intellectual property... Of someone who never participated in the work

    • @Gabrielnfs
      @Gabrielnfs 11 місяців тому +31

      The sad fact is that the IP is not his, unfortunately people still defend this unnecessary archaic and nonsensical concept of IPs, intellectual property, which should be called intellectual monopoly to be accurate instead, is an oxymoron and shouldn't exist, and in such a situation both zaum and robert would be able to create disco elysium games to their hearts' content

    • @richardsavolainen944
      @richardsavolainen944 11 місяців тому +30

      ​@@Gabrielnfsa pathetic excuse attempting to justify theft

    • @Gabrielnfs
      @Gabrielnfs 11 місяців тому

      @@richardsavolainen944 You can't steal that which is not removed from the owner after your supposed "theft", midwit
      You can't steal ideas or an IP, you can only copy it, which is why the concept should not be called property, but monopoly

    • @Gabrielnfs
      @Gabrielnfs 11 місяців тому +18

      @@richardsavolainen944 Unless you mean that im defending zaum, in which case I'm only stating that under the current framework they do hold the IP rights, which is not to say I agree with the framework, I literally said its wrong and nonsensical and I wish it were thrown in the garbage

  • @adrivoid5376
    @adrivoid5376 5 місяців тому +9

    Being real, Id rather a singular masterpiece than a series of sequels without the heart, intelligence, and talent of the og

  • @Aiodeus
    @Aiodeus 8 місяців тому +44

    More detective crpgs, then! DE might be unique, but I do hope they inspire a lot of studios to try making their own whodunnit cRPGS

    • @WeekndWarriorrr
      @WeekndWarriorrr Місяць тому +1

      I wish Disco-likes would become a genre. Just so we could go on a few more deeply philosophical detective adventures into depravity.

    • @Aiodeus
      @Aiodeus Місяць тому +2

      @@WeekndWarriorrr Yes! "deeply philosophical detective adventures into depravity" vibes with me

    • @Fuckalope-cm5dk
      @Fuckalope-cm5dk 24 дні тому

      Yeah and not just whodunits but they should also be horrifically depressing/ miraculously uplifting

    • @Fuckalope-cm5dk
      @Fuckalope-cm5dk 24 дні тому

      @@WeekndWarriorrri need that to be a thing i need so bad i might actually learn how to make a game just to scratch the itch, and i highly suggest you do too.

  • @hansolobutimdead
    @hansolobutimdead 5 місяців тому +10

    This sucks because we might've gotten a Disco Elysium tabletop rpg down the line. Now that idea is dead in the water

  • @SevillaLorenzo-kd2ef
    @SevillaLorenzo-kd2ef 4 місяці тому +4

    Trying to steal the IP which they came up with…? Weird. Almost as if Joyce were the one doing the voice over.

  • @caramelconundrum9280
    @caramelconundrum9280 Рік тому +21

    This pisses me
    Off

  • @mentricogenova
    @mentricogenova 7 місяців тому +5

    lol for IP theft they put a stock video of IP numbers

  • @keerongill7310
    @keerongill7310 9 місяців тому +7

    R i P . Dude just get better we need a sequel, dont abandon your studio

  • @jennyperpa5302
    @jennyperpa5302 10 місяців тому +70

    Yet another could have been good game ruined by greedy corporate executives.

  • @Frida_Caramel
    @Frida_Caramel 2 місяці тому +2

    The document has also a lot of inconsistencies regarding the allegations of misconduct and mistreatment when it comes to the creators, I encourage you all to dig deeper on your on and do not take everything PMG said in the video they did, especially because he mixes in a lot of personal conjecture and theories that are not 100% accurate

  • @archangel9363
    @archangel9363 23 дні тому

    There's a tragic irony of the three creative leads at eachothers throats, tragically mirroring the the most levelled aspects of the detective's mind vying for control late-game.

  • @moonshapedabsolution
    @moonshapedabsolution Місяць тому +1

    Shame, this could've been a great Radiocomputer role playing system. Shame the abandoned commercial district curse got them.

  • @mikoajnowak5104
    @mikoajnowak5104 5 місяців тому +1

    Maybe, if this is honestly the ultimate something-beautiful-is-going-to-happen timeline, then we might be able to see a DE2 some times in the foreseeable future

  • @matthulme2388
    @matthulme2388 Місяць тому

    They didn't try to steal the IP, kurvitz wrote the world in sacred and terrible air

  • @randomcookieboy
    @randomcookieboy 10 місяців тому +28

    To be fair, most of “the final cut” was created without the lead writers, and that adds some fantastic writing to the game. I hate to say it but the writing of the sequel might be okay.

    • @vt4979
      @vt4979 9 місяців тому +39

      The final cut's lead writer was literally Helen Hindpere...

    • @randomcookieboy
      @randomcookieboy 9 місяців тому

      @@vt4979 “Lead Writer” was literally just a title, she didn’t do shit

    • @Ooffoop
      @Ooffoop 9 місяців тому

      @@vt4979The Helen erasure is real

    • @mariorad529
      @mariorad529 4 місяці тому

      @@vt4979 she was credited, but didn't write shit...

    • @vt4979
      @vt4979 4 місяці тому +2

      @@mariorad529 lol ok. Keep believing the propaganda

  • @rvre
    @rvre Рік тому +13

    So disappointed
    Not surprised though :(

  • @user-xv1jr8gy3c
    @user-xv1jr8gy3c 8 місяців тому +7

    developers which made a game about a demolished communism society because of capitalism, gets demolished by capitalism. I like that.

  • @grandma650
    @grandma650 11 місяців тому +23

    Good, this game doesn’t need a sequel, the story’s already been told and anything else would be mostly pointless

    • @soujemn5
      @soujemn5 7 місяців тому +8

      i wouldn't mind seeing something else in the world setting though. The pale, literal cryptids, and prion epidemics are an interesting combination.

    • @isaacbruner65
      @isaacbruner65 4 місяці тому

      I think this story was told, but there are a million more they could tell in future games. The ending implies they were going to set the next game in Jamrock where we could solve Harry's other cases like the Square Bullet Hole Murders.

  • @buckethead420
    @buckethead420 2 місяці тому +1

    i'd NEVER buy anything called DE2 that is not written/crafted from the same minds part one came from. these shady characters behind the unethical stuff that happened within that company dont deserve shit and i'd bet my moralist ass they wouldnt even be able to do anything half as good on their own.

  • @odalchiszaratutu6793
    @odalchiszaratutu6793 7 місяців тому +2

    You can't really steal an Ip you created

  • @geddon436
    @geddon436 5 місяців тому +1

    Kickstarter?

  • @MiroMasterous
    @MiroMasterous 9 місяців тому +2

    It's a big loss to all of us

  • @stephencshapiro
    @stephencshapiro 7 місяців тому +1

    IP theft shows IP numbers 😂

  • @keerongill7310
    @keerongill7310 9 місяців тому +1

    He is me I stand with my man

  • @calvinrogers7190
    @calvinrogers7190 6 місяців тому +1

    KILLING MYSELF!!

  • @conq1273
    @conq1273 3 місяці тому

    It wont be released in epilogue but there will be an attempt in spirit

  • @koffiefilter
    @koffiefilter 9 місяців тому +1

    It’s a shame 😢

  • @Lukaszglebocki69
    @Lukaszglebocki69 7 місяців тому

    ZAUM PLEAS DO PART TWO !!!

  • @brentloy131
    @brentloy131 6 місяців тому +8

    If you're one of three tremendously talented writers then you're allowed to be kind if a prick

    • @Daniel_WR_Hart
      @Daniel_WR_Hart 5 місяців тому +2

      Don't encourage them

    • @chlopaczekhula3524
      @chlopaczekhula3524 4 місяці тому

      Nope. Being successful doesn’t mean you can be an a-hole.

    • @brentloy131
      @brentloy131 3 місяці тому +2

      "Nope" lol maybe yall are right, but I think the real A-holes are the ceos amd shareholders who screwed over these artists

    • @chlopaczekhula3524
      @chlopaczekhula3524 3 місяці тому +1

      @@brentloy131 Thats something we can all agree on. Screw those guys

  • @okami6074
    @okami6074 Місяць тому

    What is Harry doing out of his game ?

  • @lordjustinian2913
    @lordjustinian2913 7 місяців тому

    Should the sequel be made. I think no, Disco Elysium tells a solid story and is a masterpiece of a modern game. Doing things like truly mixing politics in a really interesting way into a game and telling a solid detective story along the way as well.
    I thin if Za um wants to make another game, they should try a different story with different characters and if they wanted to set it in the same universe they can but try to move a bit further along the creative end. Although I honestly think with these passion projects, creative differences are always a problem because all of the creators like the IP and want to own the IP. Executives are like, "This game can make money and we are going to exploit it like hell," But I'm on the side of the writers, they should be the one to own the IP not executives or producers because the executives and producers are going to make future games more shite.

  • @ApparentlyJade
    @ApparentlyJade 3 місяці тому

    So Fortress accident was a cry for help?

  • @thebard2806
    @thebard2806 7 місяців тому

    umm I think your b-roll people misunderstood what IP means… intellectual property not IP address lol

  • @sashasemennikov157
    @sashasemennikov157 7 місяців тому

    As it should be

  • @twofoldgarden
    @twofoldgarden 5 місяців тому

    Thank god

  • @w00f72
    @w00f72 6 місяців тому +2

    “IP theft”…shows IP addresses lol. So close.

  • @kensizhang5398
    @kensizhang5398 4 місяці тому

    C’est à peine Fortress Accident

  • @negrastormentas2865
    @negrastormentas2865 19 днів тому

    Horrible explanation. And the PMG documentary is very misleading.

  • @jesustyronechrist2330
    @jesustyronechrist2330 7 місяців тому

    Can't they just get people who want to make the game to make the game and then pay them?

  • @Largecow_Moobeast
    @Largecow_Moobeast 5 місяців тому

    Art through adversity I suppose

  • @jakubb9498
    @jakubb9498 12 днів тому

    Capitalism 😢

  • @burner121
    @burner121 10 місяців тому +2

    They should start over and make somethinh new. Art is never stationary

  • @thesmilyguyguy9799
    @thesmilyguyguy9799 4 місяці тому

    :,(

  • @dugonman8360
    @dugonman8360 9 місяців тому +7

    Once again history shows that the most ruthless corporate minded people always tend to be socialist.

    • @odalchiszaratutu6793
      @odalchiszaratutu6793 7 місяців тому +1

      The guy who stoled the IP isn't a socialist, the guys who created it are

    • @fetus1658
      @fetus1658 6 місяців тому

      Yeah right

    • @isaacbruner65
      @isaacbruner65 4 місяці тому

      The CEO who screwed the company over wasn't even a socialist was he?

  • @jerm_xd1887
    @jerm_xd1887 11 місяців тому

    Shame

  • @kennethterrell1167
    @kennethterrell1167 2 місяці тому

    Oh well, doubt they were going to make a sequel to game so niche

  • @banks3388
    @banks3388 5 місяців тому

    I know the tankies lost their turbogrifted game lol...

    • @isaacbruner65
      @isaacbruner65 4 місяці тому +1

      WTF is turbogrifted? And how are ZA/UM tankies? If anything, I felt the game was critical of political violence.

  • @JacobOlli
    @JacobOlli 8 місяців тому

    Shame